I would be very grateful if learned members can analyse the compatibility and marital prospects of the following two charts (e.g. whether a marriage b/w these 2 people is advisable at all, or about possible areas that need to be worked on, merits/demerits, etc.)
Also what is the marital outlook for the female chart on its own and time of marriage, quality of married life etc.
Many thanks.
MARITAL PROSPECTS/Dear AB, Shrikanth,Dr. Neeraj, SK et al.
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It's ok for a fling. You get married, I promise you, You will be singing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Ha! 
So would you elaborate just a lil bit for the ignoramus in me or would the answer be too painful? (for me
). I can wait.
There are quite some things that I have faced wrt this person but its all so messed up now that sometimes I can't extricate myself and objectively conclude if those things actually really happened or if they are only in my head. I have a fear that I will be 'trapped' in an unhappy situation. Intuition, perhaps. However, he is a good man in the larger sense.
I had a look at his chart too, do you think he will be successful, i.e. materially? Do you think he won't care about much else?
And thank you, really. It isn't easy doing what you are doing.
So would you elaborate just a lil bit for the ignoramus in me or would the answer be too painful? (for me
There are quite some things that I have faced wrt this person but its all so messed up now that sometimes I can't extricate myself and objectively conclude if those things actually really happened or if they are only in my head. I have a fear that I will be 'trapped' in an unhappy situation. Intuition, perhaps. However, he is a good man in the larger sense.
I had a look at his chart too, do you think he will be successful, i.e. materially? Do you think he won't care about much else?
And thank you, really. It isn't easy doing what you are doing.
Does he belong to a wealthy / well connected family ?? Political background ?CLOST wrote:
I had a look at his chart too, do you think he will be successful, i.e. materially? Do you think he won't care about much else?
Both the charts are story in themselves....
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
Hey Sinecurve!
Does he belong to a wealthy / well connected family ?? Political background ?
Both the charts are story in themselves....You cant point a finger at either !!
Umm, not wealthy but upper middle class perhaps. Although in their family the present generation has risen up the ranks (materially) I'd say from their ancestor's times. My concern was will he be single-mindedly focussed on becoming bigger professionally at the expense of other things? You said we can't point finger at either, so probably they deserve each other?
Please do elaborate!
What's the story that you see. I wanted to know about the girl's marital prospects in particular - cos its me
Thank you.
I'll not go in details ....basic point are good enough to give you a sleepless night !!..
Female -
8L tho exalted (debilitated in D9) is placed with its dead enemy 6L Mars in 5H of mind. Very stubborn / high headed !! Guru - Chandal Yog in Navmansha Lagna will make you pessimistic at times !! You are a Gemini so i think you will accept it !!
7H is crowded ....4 planets were not enough that theres aspect of SA as well...Rahu in 12H !!
Positive - Love marriage ...moving abroad ... Good business Yoga...Good looking Partner.... you yourself are good looking with lot of brain.
Negative - Leave other planets alone... VE and JU in close conjn in 7H....your husband will by default get confused of what he wants in life !! I dont see break in marriage ...but it will be a rollar coaster ride for sure.
Astroboy could help you with the Kundali match....I m not good at it. But both Lagna and Moon 4/10 sounds okay to me !!
Male -
I think he will mint money like anythings....rise up in life and yes he could certainly be more focused on Professional life. He will make wealth with his own efforts. Excellent Mars and Su combo in 2H on Wealth. Very rare to find !!
7H again not good since 7L debilitated (tho with double neechbhang) with JU and SA placed together both retro and Moon being there in 7H. Love marriage for sure...move abroad ....but with 4L debilitated and 4H aspected by Retro Saturn...some unhappiness is promised in the chart. 2 Malefics super strong placed in the house of family 2H....I think you could blindly follow what Astroboy suggested.
My 2 cents....
Female -
8L tho exalted (debilitated in D9) is placed with its dead enemy 6L Mars in 5H of mind. Very stubborn / high headed !! Guru - Chandal Yog in Navmansha Lagna will make you pessimistic at times !! You are a Gemini so i think you will accept it !!
7H is crowded ....4 planets were not enough that theres aspect of SA as well...Rahu in 12H !!
Positive - Love marriage ...moving abroad ... Good business Yoga...Good looking Partner.... you yourself are good looking with lot of brain.
Negative - Leave other planets alone... VE and JU in close conjn in 7H....your husband will by default get confused of what he wants in life !! I dont see break in marriage ...but it will be a rollar coaster ride for sure.
Astroboy could help you with the Kundali match....I m not good at it. But both Lagna and Moon 4/10 sounds okay to me !!
Male -
I think he will mint money like anythings....rise up in life and yes he could certainly be more focused on Professional life. He will make wealth with his own efforts. Excellent Mars and Su combo in 2H on Wealth. Very rare to find !!
7H again not good since 7L debilitated (tho with double neechbhang) with JU and SA placed together both retro and Moon being there in 7H. Love marriage for sure...move abroad ....but with 4L debilitated and 4H aspected by Retro Saturn...some unhappiness is promised in the chart. 2 Malefics super strong placed in the house of family 2H....I think you could blindly follow what Astroboy suggested.
My 2 cents....
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
Many Thanks Sinecurve 
On this topic, I always wanted to know if Saturn shall get Neechabhanga in D9 ( as Sun is in Kendra to Moon in D9 ) or is there no Neechabhanga in navamsa? And would you consider exalted 9L Sat with 11L Mars in 5H in Rasi/D1 as being significant in anyway, or does it get overshadowed completely?
Yes I am pessimistic but then given what I have faced so far, one can turn it on its head and say I am immensely positive about the powerful role my mind can play in impending trying times, if not overly optimistic. I am a fighter (maybe because I'll need to be).
Oh please do say something nice now
Gaja-kesari, Hamsa, Raj-Lakshana? all weak I know
Wouldn't Saturn hold all the four horses in reign with his watchful aspect? They say Rahu in 12th House gives nightmares. Not sure about that. I do have lucid dreams, and often think a lot about my past life. My gut feeling, and my dreams have always been that I have been reborn for some unfulfilled wish; something/someone that I had to come back for. Also that I died young and unnaturally the last time.
Okay! I think all but Saturn are average-good in that respect. Moon-4/10, Lagna-4/10, Sun-5/9, Jup-4/10, Sat-2/12, Mer-4/10, Ven-5/9.
He has, Sat+Mon=Nishturbhashi yoga, but there is conjunction with Jupiter?
About afflicted 4th and 2nd houses, I have a query. In the foreign travel section I had read that alone some combinations indicate suffering at home, but additional combinations for moving away from home, if present, can just indicate that the person won't be at home/birthplace and not necessarily suffering at home. What's your take on this?
Yes, Astroboy okayed a fling!!!
And you are saying I will have a love marriage for sure. That tells me I should just sit tight and wait for this person who I'll have the love marriage with. But, tell me something Sinecurve, if my marriage is not deemed to go very well based on my chart alone then should I just stay away from it and not wait for anyone? Can another person's 'good' chart make my married life easier? Or is this again one of those things I need to go 'through' with 
Waiting for Astroboy's reply too
I used to be stubborn and still am. Life however has made a little more flexible or am slowly inching there (I'd like to think). But, I'd politely disagree with you on the sleepless night bit cos I am also very resilient. There is so much that has already happened and I'm sure is yet to happen in my roller coaster ride of a life that I have come to believe (most of the time) that the only real way out is through. Though Sat+Mars in my chitta has filled my head with more thoughts than I can handle, maybe I will just stroke out one day! Sat+Mars is agni-maruta and unmada isn't it8L tho exalted (debilitated in D9) is placed with its dead enemy 6L Mars in 5H of mind. Very stubborn / high headed !! Guru - Chandal Yog in Navmansha Lagna will make you pessimistic at times !! You are a Gemini so i think you will accept it !!
On this topic, I always wanted to know if Saturn shall get Neechabhanga in D9 ( as Sun is in Kendra to Moon in D9 ) or is there no Neechabhanga in navamsa? And would you consider exalted 9L Sat with 11L Mars in 5H in Rasi/D1 as being significant in anyway, or does it get overshadowed completely?
Yes I am pessimistic but then given what I have faced so far, one can turn it on its head and say I am immensely positive about the powerful role my mind can play in impending trying times, if not overly optimistic. I am a fighter (maybe because I'll need to be).
7H is crowded ....4 planets were not enough that theres aspect of SA as well...Rahu in 12H !!
Oh please do say something nice now
Positive - Love marriage ...moving abroad ... Good business Yoga...Good looking Partner.... you yourself are good looking with lot of brain.
Negative - Leave other planets alone... VE and JU in close conjn in 7H....your husband will by default get confused of what he wants in life !! I dont see break in marriage ...but it will be a rollar coaster ride for sure.
Astroboy could help you with the Kundali match....I m not good at it. But both Lagna and Moon 4/10 sounds okay to me
That's really good, I am happy that he will, he deserves it and I hope he can work hard to get it. What does double neechbhang mean?think he will mint money like anythings....rise up in life and yes he could certainly be more focused on Professional life. He will make wealth with his own efforts. Excellent Mars and Su combo in 2H on Wealth. Very rare to find !!
7H again not good since 7L debilitated (tho with double neechbhang) with JU and SA placed together both retro and Moon being there in 7H. Love marriage for sure...move abroad ....but with 4L debilitated and 4H aspected by Retro Saturn...some unhappiness is promised in the chart. 2 Malefics super strong placed in the house of family 2H....I think you could blindly follow what Astroboy suggested.
He has, Sat+Mon=Nishturbhashi yoga, but there is conjunction with Jupiter?
About afflicted 4th and 2nd houses, I have a query. In the foreign travel section I had read that alone some combinations indicate suffering at home, but additional combinations for moving away from home, if present, can just indicate that the person won't be at home/birthplace and not necessarily suffering at home. What's your take on this?
Yes, Astroboy okayed a fling!!!
Waiting for Astroboy's reply too
CLOST wrote: On this topic, I always wanted to know if Saturn shall get Neechabhanga in D9 ( as Sun is in Kendra to Moon in D9 ) or is there no Neechabhanga in navamsa? And would you consider exalted 9L Sat with 11L Mars in 5H in Rasi/D1 as being significant in anyway, or does it get overshadowed completely?
A neech planet is a neech planet !! I have it so i know !! Yes Neechbhang could help to an extent but I did not even comment about any materialistic benefits as such. My analysis was totally focused on the relationship part or factors driving it !! The issue is the uneasiness some planets face in few signs and Conjns.
9L in 5H is itself a Raja Yoga and with MA ...aspecting 11H . Its good !! Engineer ??
Yes I am pessimistic but then given what I have faced so far, one can turn it on its head and say I am immensely positive about the powerful role my mind can play in impending trying times, if not overly optimistic. I am a fighter (maybe because I'll need to be).
Same SA / MA combo also creates a staunch individual who never gets bogged down by any problems in Life . A fighter as you rightly said !! Understand that you are a Gemini...you learn from each and every thing in life !
Oh please do say something nice nowGaja-kesari, Hamsa, Raj-Lakshana? all weak I know
Wouldn't Saturn hold all the four horses in reign with his watchful aspect? They say Rahu in 12th House gives nightmares. Not sure about that. I do have lucid dreams, and often think a lot about my past life. My gut feeling, and my dreams have always been that I have been reborn for some unfulfilled wish; something/someone that I had to come back for. Also that I died young and unnaturally the last time.
Again what I said is for relationship part !! Yes you have many good yogas and you would reap the benefits. Saturn is a malefic and issue is not what it does....the issue is how it does !! thats the main concern. All of us will have these Malefics placed somewhere in our chart...and it will surely destroy some aspect of our life. I m still a novice to comment on dreams or your left business in this lifetime !!
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That's really good, I am happy that he will, he deserves it and I hope he can work hard to get it. What does double neechbhang mean?
He has, Sat+Mon=Nishturbhashi yoga, but there is conjunction with Jupiter?
The neechbhang happens more than one way !! Moon should always be free from any Conjn or Aspects....atleast the malefic ones. Moon (mind) might get confused when placed with contradictory behaving planets. One is expansion and other is contraction. One is academic and other is street smart ...its gets slight messy actually !!
About afflicted 4th and 2nd houses, I have a query. In the foreign travel section I had read that alone some combinations indicate suffering at home, but additional combinations for moving away from home, if present, can just indicate that the person won't be at home/birthplace and not necessarily suffering at home. What's your take on this?
Yes....an afflicted 4H(house of residence) does not indicate foreign travel. There has to be a connection betwn 3H (short travel) 9H ( Long travel / higher studies) and 7H / 12H indicating foreign land. Rahu / Ketu is also a planet to watch for ....its indicates foreigners / travel abroad. But if 4H is afflicted specially if SA / Nodes placed there or aspect it....some dissatisfaction in life is promised.
As per my knowledge I told you whats written in your chart. Now its your free-will to decide what you wish to do with your life. I repeat what I wrote in one of my threads ....its about me !!
Yes, Astroboy okayed a fling!!!And you are saying I will have a love marriage for sure. That tells me I should just sit tight and wait for this person who I'll have the love marriage with. But, tell me something Sinecurve, if my marriage is not deemed to go very well based on my chart alone then should I just stay away from it and not wait for anyone? Can another person's 'good' chart make my married life easier? Or is this again one of those things I need to go 'through' with
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"I have had major disappointments in last 2 years....Astroboys Guruji told me on my face that my lagna / saturn / ketu in Ardra nakshatra...I m destined to cry all my life !! I know I will....but as Astroboy says...'I will smell every rose and flower on the way..."
I live by the moment and preach to live life to the hilt !!
Remember Chumbawamba
"I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never going to keep me down ...."
Wish you the best !!
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
Hey Sinecurve
thanks a lot for the detailed reply
I am sorry, I wasn't questioning your answer. Its not that I want to marry this guy and so I am trying to have it my way. I am just trying to understand the concept and logic behind the way by which we choose better matches.
For e.g. if someone tells me don't marry Mr. A then I would think that marrying him will make me unhappy in some way.
Then, if I am told that my married life (from my chart) is going to be not-so-good, then I'd think it could be one of two things:
a) my chart alone shows an unhappy married life which is independent of who I marry
b) my chart shows I'll marry someone who will make my married life unhappy
If its a) then it shouldn't matter if I married Mr. A cos I'd be unhappy no matter who I marry. That leaves option b) and marrying Mr. A will fulfil that option (and destiny), cos this way I personally chose to marry someone who will make me unhappy.
I am not sure if my logic makes sense. I am sure things won't be as black and white as I am making them out to be. I'd just like to know how I will know when I find a chart, if its a good match. Do correct me.
thanks a lot for the detailed reply
I am sorry, I wasn't questioning your answer. Its not that I want to marry this guy and so I am trying to have it my way. I am just trying to understand the concept and logic behind the way by which we choose better matches.
For e.g. if someone tells me don't marry Mr. A then I would think that marrying him will make me unhappy in some way.
Then, if I am told that my married life (from my chart) is going to be not-so-good, then I'd think it could be one of two things:
a) my chart alone shows an unhappy married life which is independent of who I marry
b) my chart shows I'll marry someone who will make my married life unhappy
If its a) then it shouldn't matter if I married Mr. A cos I'd be unhappy no matter who I marry. That leaves option b) and marrying Mr. A will fulfil that option (and destiny), cos this way I personally chose to marry someone who will make me unhappy.
I am not sure if my logic makes sense. I am sure things won't be as black and white as I am making them out to be. I'd just like to know how I will know when I find a chart, if its a good match. Do correct me.
Current life is 'KARMA PAYBACK' time....it is what it is !!
Wish you the best !!
Wish you the best !!
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'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
Would anyone kindly let me know about my general (or specific
) Marital Prospects; I have been told that I'd get married in my 29th year (don't know if that is using Sun's Progression in Navamsa)
Also would it be a inter-religion/inter-caste marriage?
Thank you all
Also would it be a inter-religion/inter-caste marriage?
Thank you all
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hi clost
Wow...u have a cluttered 7th house with 4 planets in it...MKS for Mercury who happens to be Asc Lord, Jupiter in own sign and is L7/L10.All these 4 planets receive an aspect from planet of delay- lord saturn although Saturn is exalted in the 5th house..Saturn alone has good strength and excellent placement..Could give u some very good results
Rahu in the 12th takes a native abroad generally speaking--dont know if that is or has been the case with you
In the navamsa- ketu is a bit of a worry-could indicate either seperation or a spiritually minded spouse..i think more of the latter since it gets benefic aspect of jupiter
Jupiter is L7 in both natal chart and navamsa so he is the single biggest factor in getting u married
U r under MD of Sun But Sun is in the 8th and 8th is known for obstructions/delays etc and that is why u prob did not get married in the jupiter Ad that just ended last month
Yes there is a good chance of u getting married in ur 29th year as u will be under Sun/Venus period and Venus is in the 7th and natural karak of marriage
Moon MD is from 2014 and Moon is also in the 7th..in the immediate future Jupiter transit to Aries mid 2011 aspects ur 7th
thanks
Wow...u have a cluttered 7th house with 4 planets in it...MKS for Mercury who happens to be Asc Lord, Jupiter in own sign and is L7/L10.All these 4 planets receive an aspect from planet of delay- lord saturn although Saturn is exalted in the 5th house..Saturn alone has good strength and excellent placement..Could give u some very good results
Rahu in the 12th takes a native abroad generally speaking--dont know if that is or has been the case with you
In the navamsa- ketu is a bit of a worry-could indicate either seperation or a spiritually minded spouse..i think more of the latter since it gets benefic aspect of jupiter
Jupiter is L7 in both natal chart and navamsa so he is the single biggest factor in getting u married
U r under MD of Sun But Sun is in the 8th and 8th is known for obstructions/delays etc and that is why u prob did not get married in the jupiter Ad that just ended last month
Yes there is a good chance of u getting married in ur 29th year as u will be under Sun/Venus period and Venus is in the 7th and natural karak of marriage
Moon MD is from 2014 and Moon is also in the 7th..in the immediate future Jupiter transit to Aries mid 2011 aspects ur 7th
thanks
Beginner/Learner of Vedic Astrology
Thank you Astro123
Ya very cluttered
I have read that number of planets placed with or closely aspecting Venus can indicate something about number of relationships/marriages, but could not make sense of it.
Yes I was abroad but had to come back recently.
Sun/Jup was a very trying time for me. What do you think about the next two AD's of Mercury and Ketu?
According to the navamsa rules for marriage the antardasha lord should be associated with the 7th house in navamsa. I ask because mercury is the dipositor of navamsa L7 and Ketu is in navamsa 7th House (as well as the nakshatra dipositor of L7 and Venus in rasi). If I could tell you what I have seen so far (please correct any mistakes)
For eg. Jupiter is in Aries retrograde from 30/8/11 to 26/12/11 and during this time it will:
-aspect 7th house
-aspect Mars (as karaka for marriage event)
-aspect second from UL (Cancer)
-aspect vivaha sahama in Virgo (taking into consideration retrograde status)
Again various aspects when Jupiter is in Taurus retrograde in 2012.
As these AD's of Mercury, Ketu also feel suitable using the rules and the running transits I am confused.
Would be grateful if you could let me know your views on this.
Ya very cluttered
Yes I was abroad but had to come back recently.
Sun/Jup was a very trying time for me. What do you think about the next two AD's of Mercury and Ketu?
According to the navamsa rules for marriage the antardasha lord should be associated with the 7th house in navamsa. I ask because mercury is the dipositor of navamsa L7 and Ketu is in navamsa 7th House (as well as the nakshatra dipositor of L7 and Venus in rasi). If I could tell you what I have seen so far (please correct any mistakes)
For eg. Jupiter is in Aries retrograde from 30/8/11 to 26/12/11 and during this time it will:
-aspect 7th house
-aspect Mars (as karaka for marriage event)
-aspect second from UL (Cancer)
-aspect vivaha sahama in Virgo (taking into consideration retrograde status)
Again various aspects when Jupiter is in Taurus retrograde in 2012.
As these AD's of Mercury, Ketu also feel suitable using the rules and the running transits I am confused.
Would be grateful if you could let me know your views on this.
Sun/Jup was a very trying time for me. What do you think about the next two AD's of Mercury and Ketu? - Mercury is lagna lord and L4 But it is in Marana karaka sthana though mercury could be considered to be well placed in the quadrant (7th house)...however Mercury is well palced in the 5th in d-9..How was mercury period in the past ?? Ketu is in the 6th and dispositor is Mars in the 5th shud be average ..The actual plroblem is coming from Mahadasa lord Sun who is malefic for ur Asc and is placed in the 8th and in MKS in the 12th in d-9 and D-10..It is weak in all 3 charts that matter so overall its going to be trying period until Moon MD
According to the navamsa rules for marriage the antardasha lord should be associated with the 7th house in navamsa. I ask because mercury is the dipositor of navamsa L7 and Ketu is in navamsa 7th House (as well as the nakshatra dipositor of L7 and Venus in rasi). If I could tell you what I have seen so far (please correct any mistakes) - Yes,Mercury is dispositor of L7 in d9 ..Generally Ketu is a planet of detachment and seperation and marriage is all abt union..!!! a few members on this forum do write abt not indulging in buliding new relationships during ketu periodsFor eg. Jupiter is in Aries retrograde from 30/8/11 to 26/12/11 and during this time it will:
-aspect 7th house
-aspect Mars (as karaka for marriage event)
-aspect second from UL (Cancer)
-aspect vivaha sahama in Virgo (taking into consideration retrograde status)
Again various aspects when Jupiter is in Taurus retrograde in 2012.
As these AD's of Mercury, Ketu also feel suitable using the rules and the running transits I am confused.
Would be grateful if you could let me know your views on this.[/quote]
Yes Jupiter transit for 1 year in aries from mid 2011-mid 2012 could help u as it will aspect the 7th house .At the same time Saturn in transit will also aspect the 7th from nov 2011 so there will be a double transit happening in ur 7th..lets see whats in store for u then
thanks
According to the navamsa rules for marriage the antardasha lord should be associated with the 7th house in navamsa. I ask because mercury is the dipositor of navamsa L7 and Ketu is in navamsa 7th House (as well as the nakshatra dipositor of L7 and Venus in rasi). If I could tell you what I have seen so far (please correct any mistakes) - Yes,Mercury is dispositor of L7 in d9 ..Generally Ketu is a planet of detachment and seperation and marriage is all abt union..!!! a few members on this forum do write abt not indulging in buliding new relationships during ketu periodsFor eg. Jupiter is in Aries retrograde from 30/8/11 to 26/12/11 and during this time it will:
-aspect 7th house
-aspect Mars (as karaka for marriage event)
-aspect second from UL (Cancer)
-aspect vivaha sahama in Virgo (taking into consideration retrograde status)
Again various aspects when Jupiter is in Taurus retrograde in 2012.
As these AD's of Mercury, Ketu also feel suitable using the rules and the running transits I am confused.
Would be grateful if you could let me know your views on this.[/quote]
Yes Jupiter transit for 1 year in aries from mid 2011-mid 2012 could help u as it will aspect the 7th house .At the same time Saturn in transit will also aspect the 7th from nov 2011 so there will be a double transit happening in ur 7th..lets see whats in store for u then
thanks
Beginner/Learner of Vedic Astrology
I am under pressure to get married as I am getting older and feel indecisive about marriage, especially arranged marriage. I have been told marriage will be between 24-30 years, but then some years later I have been told marriage only after 30 years of age. Feeling confused now.
I would be very grateful if the learned members here could tell me during which conducive period I'd be very likely to marry and how my married life/spouse will be.
On one hand taking a wise decision is better than taking a hasty one but then on the other hand I feel getting married after 30 affects some things negatively.
thank you
I would be very grateful if the learned members here could tell me during which conducive period I'd be very likely to marry and how my married life/spouse will be.
On one hand taking a wise decision is better than taking a hasty one but then on the other hand I feel getting married after 30 affects some things negatively.
thank you
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You will get married after December 2011. anu
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