ChandraLagna wrote: ↑
30 May 2018
Well...believing something because someone else is following it, is not logic. It's faith in someone's ability and decision.
Vivek Surya wrote: ↑
29 May 2018
I'll definitely provide the logic.
I've already told her that I'll provide the logic! & CL Ji, I think you might not come across a post by me, I was already explained why Ascendant degree is chosen as Bhaava Madhya in other post.
Let me paste the link here & also the explanation
Let's say a Graha is transiting from one house to other house. It means, the Graha is acquiring new qualities, strength or weakness whatever. So, while Ascendant is transiting from one sign to other sign It's also acquiring the same!
Let us link with an analogy, Let's say we went to a new house, say we're exactly at the entrance of the house. By standing there you can't claim that inside aunt is cooking capsicum curry & uncle is busy in playing with his children! You can claim the above scenario only when you take little steps forward, isn't it?
In Physics we've a concept called Inertia, if say a body is continuing in motion with same speed it continues to move with same speed at next instant too! Provided there's no dissipative forces acting on the body. So, the same way Ascendant also suddenly can't loose its qualities when it's say in 12° Libra to 26° Libra. It preserves, but slowly the effect of the lagna perishes when the eastern horizon is in motion!
That's the reason why I disagree completely with KP in choosing Ascendant degree as starting point of the house.
Let's say in my horoscope, If I change settings in JHora as KP (Placidus houses) & choosing Ascendant degree as beginning as 1st house. I'll be getting Ketu in 3rd which I disagree completely! I can relate myself of Ketu being in 4th with my past rather than being in 3rd. Same with Moon It's in 7th with above system. But I can clearly perceive myself as Moon being in 8th house.
Hence I disagree completely as well as by checking with my life instants KP system (Placidus houses) & Ascendant degree as starting point of 1st house concept fails
Hope It's clear!
This is just a self speculation! So, comments are highly appreciated!
I've copy pasted the same thing what I've written in that page! & I've already mentioned It's my speculation!
& in the "mystic board" I've opined the same as follows:
A little speculation on why is Ascendant degree chosen as Bhaava Madhya rather than starting point of the bhaava?
Here's my understanding:
We all know that every Zodiac sign has an intrinsic quality, this information I'll be using it as a basis, let's take Cancer as an example, Cancer is a Watery & 1st Moksha trikona sthaanam, it's ruled by Moon, Moon is our Mind (merely our thoughts) as it's a watery house it represents intuition, as intuition needs depth, only in water we could find depth "Easier". Where as if we take earthy signs it's harder to dig (No idea what information lies underneath it). If in fiery signs, going deeper causes little risky because our human body may or may not resist the heat (here also I've no idea what will be underneath, or we can go depth, there might not be depth at all), In Airy signs i don't think so there's depth information lying (You could counteract my statement if this doesn't make a sense).
Also every Graha has innate nature, we know that. So, when ग्रह संक्रमणम् (Graha transition) happens from one Zodiac sign to other zodiac sign it absorbs the energy & the properties & it acts accordingly.
Now, I want to make an analogy, Every body continues to be in state of rest or uniform motion until an external force acts on it to change its state of motion. This is just merely an observation of nature, thus it's law, this was observed by our ancient seers as well but, in modern time it was observed by Isaac Newton, thus it became Newton's 1st law of motion. Now, in a ग्रह transition ग्रह will try to absorb new energy & leaves the other bhaava energy, it requires time & it is in continuous motion. So, leaving complete properties of a previous bhaava needs energy to give away consumes time in a motion. It's not an easy process (taking & giving). Thus i think for Ascendant also i think it works the same way. Thus we've to choose +/- 15° to the Ascendant degree to get the Bhaava extreme degree.
In a simple way, Let's say we've a bad habit (again I've to define what's bad & good, for time being let's assume this in mundane sense) to overcome this bad habit we need will from inside to overcome. Will consumes "Energy" since it's not natural process! it consumes time too, let's say in this process the person is overcoming the so called bad habit, now as time passes in continuous observation we perceive that person is in changing phase from bad to good. Finally the person becomes good. So, during ग्रह transition also it needs some time to leave the previous bhaava properties. So as Ascendant too
Kindly forgive & rectify if I'm in a wrong way, this is just my self speculation.
Thanks for your patience
Any comment is highly welcome.
ChandraLagna Ji, FYI I've asked the same question in our forum in the following topic:
& Subrahmanium Ji has opined the way as follows:
Ascendant degree as starting point will put the ascendant at BHAVA SANDHI. Lagna will become weak by default then. It is not logical .
In the same topic!