Exaltation in true sense

[Priya dhillon]

Hi all

What is the true meaning of exaltation( ucha graha).
Which qualities of the planet get enhanced
For instance... if moon is exalted in someone"'s chart
Is this moon will be more calm and possess qualities like patience contentment stability or this would just mean excited state of mind.(in othwr words..ocean with no tides vs ocean with high tides) like person who will listen and act more according to mind.

Sun exalted-- one with enhanced ego /authority /power
Or
Powerful soul

Venus exalted-- increased pleasure seeking tendency/increased comfort/ enhanced beauty /materialistic love.
Or
Divine love/pure soul/spiritualistic /inner beauty.

Mars exalted--- increased aggresion/passion/high energy
Or
Strong fighter spirit /fighter for righteousness/warrior who fight with inner enemies.

Jupiter exalted--- one who understand everything very well/ can teach other very well / good judgemental power
Or
A completely religious person/person who considers God above anything/ extremely optimistic.

Saturn exalted-- a person having too much concern about good and bad deeds/right or wrong /very practical disciplined.
Or
One attached to the roots /high ethics/ follow principles.

Thankyou in advance

[SWARNIM]

Indeed a good post with appropriate deductions.

IMHO, exalted planets without any affliction will give the results as narrated by you in the second options. In case of the Moon, it will result in happiness/contentment and in case of the Sun, it is enlightenment.

[Priya dhillon]

Thankyou swarnim ji
By affliction you mean - aspect from functional malefic? Or natural malefic? Or some other factor.

As you said exalted sun could mean enlightenment/humbleness .but I have seen people with sun in Aries .they want to live like I me and myself.. having strengthened ego, so much confident,those who want to be centre of attention ,feel authoritative in themselves,etcetera.
Can we attribute this to rajas tamas and sattvic qualities of the planets.. if yes ..then how to find whether some planet exhibiting rajas satvic or tamsic qualities in one''s chart.

[Vivek Surya]

Namah Shivaaya,
You've nicely jotted it. Good

Can we attribute this to rajas tamas and sattvic qualities of the planets.. if yes ..then how to find whether some planet exhibiting rajas satvic or tamsic qualities in one''s chart.

I think yes, we can attribute into 3 qualities of a Graha. But I think it'll definitely work according to the sign placement, let's say Venus is exalted in a chart, Venus exalts in natural 12th house it means, it's leaving all it's Rajasic qualities into Saatvik, since 12th house is about expenses. So, it's leaving all the materialistic things & tries to see the inner beauty as you said in prior.
As i think it gives pronounced results with sign placement. In that way it's applicable only to Aries Ascendant. Now, let's say Venus is exalted for Gemini Ascendant natives, 5th lord is exalted in Karma sthaanam, it could mean children, Education, indeed all the 5th house attributes will become their primary action. It'll give Saatvik blend to the natives where ever it's posited.
Now, I've no idea how to interpret if natural malefic Grahaas aspect it. Saturn has 3, 7, 10 aspects. Saturn's 3rd aspect will take the glancing bhaavas portfolios. 10th aspect i suppose it's good, because it means that bhaavaa's portfolios are important to the native. Here we need to analyze which house Saturn is ruling, Saturn as 3rd lord acts different as Saturn as 8th lord. I think should see w.r.t this as well.
Yes, indeed functional malefic Grahaas also gives the results accordingly. Thus, it affects 3 qualities of a Graha.
Finally, why an exalted Graha gives Saatvik qualities is because it feels happy with the placement & gives pronounced results. It feels happy because while in exaltation the Graha's Velocity compared with its previous velocity value will be less. So, to cover this area it takes more time, thus it'll tend to give its Saatvik nature. It's simple if we've more time to concentrate & if we feel happy in doing it, we use our intellect to make our self happy. These vibrations are indeed positive, hence Saatvik.
Regards

Now, i want to know what happens if exalted Graha involves in combustion. People says outer qualities of that Graha is lost, inner qualities remain, i want to know with an example, kindly help if you've an idea.
Thanks

[Priya dhillon]

Thanks vivek surya ji
I an not a proficient astrologer,I just have basic knowledge. You raised a good question. I would also like to know about that from other knowledgeable members.

What you have said about house placement is making sense to me. As in the above example that I have mentioned ,the person is having sun exalted in 1st house. .I think that's why highly self centric behavior.
Can you please elaborate a bit more with example. ..
Let's take Venus for instance. .. how this planet will behave if exalted in 1st(f.malefic) 3rd(f.benefic) 7th(f. malefic)8th (f.malefic)and 10th house(f.malefic).which qualities will predominate (rajsic,tamsic,satvic )in these houses.

[Vivek Surya]

Namah Shivaaya,
Didi ji, I'll think of it, even I'm at learning stage. thanks for the question!

[Priya dhillon]

Namah Shivaaya,
Didi ji, I'll think of it, even I'm at learning stage. thanks for the question!

One more thing to mention.
I have misinterpreted f.Malefic status of the planet .please do correct it by yourself while studying the same.

[Vivek Surya]

Namah Shivaaya,
Didi, I didn't forget your question!, I'll take some more time to think since I'm at learning stage.
Thanks!

[rathore]

Exaltation is a measure of strength like many others. In quantification terms it gives three times the results compared to if it were in a normal state. This is applicable to Exaltation without considering the planet and sign. For particular planets their native qualities are pronounced in the person when exalted. So Saturn in exaltation or own sign can make one a backbiter, a fool, a leader.

That being said if the Sign itself is not strong or the planet is losing strengths due to other factors (this happens a lot) or is counteracted then the results barely come to pass. And results similar to or even better can come to pass for a debilitated planet if it has gained strength due to other factors and is not counteracted.

You described a person with Aries Sun different than what you expected. That generally means Sun and Sun sign have lower strength and/or other factors have taken over.

[Vivek Surya]

Saturn in exaltation or own sign can make one a backbiter, a fool, a leader.

Namah Shivaaya,
Rathore ji, let's say Saturn is exalted, in a good placement, as Saturn represents restriction, discipline & all other austere qualities, then why does it makes a person backbiter or a fool instead being disciplined with good qualities?
LOL, my Saturn is in Aquarius in 3rd. ssshh!
Also may i please know, what happens when Exalted graha involves in combustion?
For example: My 5th/12th lord Mars exalted in 2nd house, 12° 93' away from Sun. 9th lord Sun is in 1st house in Sagittarius.
I wanted to know what're the qualities that a graha looses, as we know that agni is spiritual heat which cleanses individual, let's say Jupiter is involved in combustion, the person might undergo so many ordeals to refine himself to delve into the spiritual world? (No idea though, i thought in this way)
Thanks!

[joyd]

PD-the word ego applicable equally to all exalted planets and not only to sun.But remember the planets attributed traits only shown in its ego.For example,take Venus. its main trait is beauty,poetry,dress,eyes,cosmetics and bla..bla..so such person may show his ego in his dress,or by using costly cosmetics,sound poetical expression,his or er beauty,ego in her eyes and looks etc..Each planet shows its ego deeply on its natural traits.

VS-what ratho mentioned is correct.Ego makes one as blind mentally.so he becomes a fool.Ego makes one as leader by using hook or cook techniques.To become a leader one will have backbiting techniques too.All will agree the qualities of Saturn as you mentioned in your post too but what happens a moral person not getting his due portion for his industry and hard work during his active course of time? such person then uses his negative traits to get his due shares.Exalted Saturn exactly behaves like this in Libra.why?

Its an airy sign with airy natured Saturn.How Saturn is airy is your next question.Every planet gets the trait of his MTK sign.so here Aquarius is airy sign and it is also a MTK sign for Saturn.same elemental sign with same elemental planet gives fool boost,in the sense ego to that planet.[except mars].
In your case sat urn in his MTK sign.so dint bother about it.

coming to your next question-what happens when Exalted graham involves in combustion?

The answer is very simple one,such exalted planets lord ship house physical significations suffers very badly.so work out on it and what you find in your chart reg mars combustion.post your reply here for other friends awareness about your raised question.

happy learning
joyd.

[Dev]

Nice question Vivek but difficult to answer.
If exalted mars is partially combust and is conjunct with 6 other planets and aspected by rahu as in my case, it is difficult to talk about the strength of exaltation of mars the lagna and rasi lord.

[Priya dhillon]

PD-the word ego applicable equally to all exalted planets and not only to sun.But remember the planets attributed traits only shown in its ego.For example,take Venus. its main trait is beauty,poetry,dress,eyes,cosmetics and bla..bla..so such person may show his ego in his dress,or by using costly cosmetics,sound poetical expression,his or er beauty,ego in her eyes and looks etc..Each planet shows its ego deeply on its natural traits.

VS-what ratho mentioned is correct.Ego makes one as blind mentally.so he becomes a fool.Ego makes one as leader by using hook or cook techniques.To become a leader one will have backbiting techniques too.All will agree the qualities of Saturn as you mentioned in your post too but what happens a moral person not getting his due portion for his industry and hard work during his active course of time? such person then uses his negative traits to get his due shares.Exalted Saturn exactly behaves like this in Libra.why?

Its an airy sign with airy natured Saturn.How Saturn is airy is your next question.Every planet gets the trait of his MTK sign.so here Aquarius is airy sign and it is also a MTK sign for Saturn.same elemental sign with same elemental planet gives fool boost,in the sense ego to that planet.[except mars].
In your case sat urn in his MTK sign.so dint bother about it.

coming to your next question-what happens when Exalted graham involves in combustion?

The answer is very simple one,such exalted planets lord ship house physical significations suffers very badly.so work out on it and what you find in your chart reg mars combustion.post your reply here for other friends awareness about your raised question.

happy learning
joyd.

Thankyou joyd ji & rathore ji
So this means exaltation is not always good.especially not good for spiritual progress..right? And in case the exalted planet is enemy of ascendant lord..then also bad results?

Also what if a planet is placed with exalted sun. .will it give combustion effect 3 times the normal combustion state?

What does this.mean-sign itself is not strong?

Thanks in anticipation.

[Vivek Surya]

The word ego applicable equally to all exalted planets and not only to sun. But remember the planets attributed traits only shown in its ego.For example,take Venus. its main trait is beauty, poetry, dress, eyes, cosmetics and bla..bla..so such person may show his ego in his dress, or by using costly cosmetics, sound poetical expression, his or er beauty, ego in her eyes and looks etc.. Each planet shows its ego deeply on its natural traits.
joyd.

So this means exaltation is not always good.especially not good for spiritual progress..right?

Namah Shivaaya,
This is not at all my level to judge on Punya purusha Shri Raamachandra Prabhu. But as an academic interest i seek to know, We all know in Raamachandra prabhu's horoscope 9th/6th lord Jupiter in Ascendant, 7th lord Saturn in 4th, 2nd lord Sun in 10th, 4th/11th lord Venus in 9th, 5th/10th lord Mars in 7th.
Jupiter as 9th lord exalted in Ascendant conjunction with Moon in Punarvasu - 4 caused him Gajakesari yogam. As Moon represents Mind (purely collection of thoughts), Jupiter represents wisdom this tells that his thoughts are guided by Jupiter, which expands & gave him wisdom to his thoughts. From 7th house exalted Mars is aspecting mutually with Jupiter & Moon causing Chandra-Maangala Yogam & Guru Mangala Yogam. As Mars represents Valor, action oriented graha, speed when compared with Saturn & Jupiter. So, Chandra Mangala Yogam gave him Ekapatnivrata blend since all his actions are guided by his thoughts. This gave him sticking mentality. 5th/10th lord Mars exalted in 7th, Mars in 7th is separative, we all know what happened, as Mars is in 7th, we all know how beautiful Seeta maata is.
2nd lord in Kendra made him beautiful & handsome (don't know the logic but i remember Joyd bhaiyya's post in one thread asked by Suresh ji) 2nd represents Face, talk.
7th lord exaltation in kendra.
Does Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter & Venus made him egoistic in his traits?
Like, does Jupiter exaltation made him egoistic that he has knowledge of all Shaastraas? we all know how he bends to his Guru, even to Raavana.
Does Mars made him egoistic in war or being valorous?
Does Venus made him egoistic in appearance or material beauty? (i don't think so)
Does Saturn made him backbiter & ............?
Does Sun made him egoistic???
This is just to gain knowledge purely as an academic interest.
Thanks in anticipation! & for your patience!
Jai Shri Hanuman!
Jai Shri Raam!

[Vivek Surya]

VS-what ratho mentioned is correct. Ego makes one as blind mentally.so he becomes a fool.Ego makes one as leader by using hook or cook techniques. To become a leader one will have backbiting techniques too. All will agree the qualities of Saturn as you mentioned in your post too but what happens a moral person not getting his due portion for his industry and hard work during his active course of time? such person then uses his negative traits to get his due shares. Exalted Saturn exactly behaves like this in Libra.

Namah Shivaaya,
WOW! Thank you so much Joyd bhaiyya, but what if Jupiter aspects or conjuncts, it might mitigates Saturn's traits isn't it?

In your case Saturn in his MTK sign. So don't bother about it.

In my horoscope Saturn is at 26° 02', it's mentioned that only from 0° to 20° in Aquarius is Moolatrikona sthaanam for Saturn. So, Saturn is in own house i think.

coming to your next question-what happens when Exalted graham involves in combustion?

The answer is very simple one, such exalted planets lord ship house physical significations suffers very badly. So work out on it and what you find in your chart reg mars combustion. Post your reply here for other friends awareness about your raised question.

happy learning
joyd.

May i know what's mean by physical significations? could you please elaborate it!?
Thanks a lot!

When I'm learning new thoughts from all the learned Astrologers, I'm feeling that my hunger is getting satisfied, like mother feeds their own child!
& still wants to learn!
I'm thankful to LOVA a lot!

[rathore]

Some of Saturn's characteristics (direct from texts) are being lazy, foolish, back biting, sorrowful, many bad things and some good things. Terms such as restrictions, discipline I think are "derived" meanings of the above "basic" characteristics.

And even if they are not derived meanings, I would first learn the basic meanings because many such derived meanings are nonsense. The logic put by some being .. since Saturn will bring you sorrow (basic quality) so you feel restricted and therefore become disciplined (derived quality). But then I guess when Jupiter (or any planet) brings you a lot of money, you again become restricted and can't mingle with just any Tom .. plus now your movements are restricted and what not. And therefore again you become "disciplined".
So you can see how easy it is to get to derived meanings. This is the reason many of us can talk in circles for hours and ultimately provide no real Astrological value.

Third house is weak by default compared to Kendra houses so the results are less compared to if it were have in an angle. Of course in your chart 3rd house maybe stronger than even the 10th house, so that's a case by case basis thing.

Combustion is a measure of reduced strength, so an exalted combust planet (all other factors being equal) is less potent than an exalted planet by itself in terms of giving its results (good or bad). But then combination with Sun will yield other results which could be better than just an exalted planet.

[Vivek Surya]

Some of Saturn's characteristics (direct from texts) are being lazy, foolish, back biting, sorrowful, many bad things and some good things. Terms such as restrictions, discipline I think are "derived" meanings of the above "basic" characteristics.

And even if they are not derived meanings, I would first learn the basic meanings because many such derived meanings are nonsense. The logic put by some being .. since Saturn will bring you sorrow (basic quality) so you feel restricted and therefore become disciplined (derived quality).

Namah Shivaaya,
Yeah true saying!, thanks for correcting Rathore ji.

Third house is weak by default compared to Kendra houses so the results are less compared to if it were have in an angle. Of course in your chart 3rd house maybe stronger than even the 10th house, so that's a case by case basis thing.

My Bhaava bala of 3rd house is less when compared with 10th house. Even my Sarvaashtakavarga value is good for 10th house i.e., 36, where as for 3rd house it's 23. By the way Raahu is posited in my 10th house.
Thanks

[Dev]

Some of Saturn's characteristics (direct from texts) are being lazy, foolish, back biting, sorrowful, many bad things and some good things.

I dont know how you would apply this to horoscopes? may be to those where sat is dominant?
I have my lagna in saturn's nakshatra and sat in own house with 6 other planets but lagna has moon who is in budha's nakshatra. I dont have any of those qualities mentioned above, I hate back biters. my sisters have sat in lagna and have no such qualities as above.
Of course we need to see the most dominant planet whose qualities may prevail.
Also, one of my sisters and myself are also very fair skinned and other sister medium in color. So sat may not be dominant.

[rathore]

Houses /Signs can gain strength irrespective of Bhaav bal. For e.g. Scorpio is strong in the 7th house than any other sign. Quadruped signs are strong in the 10th house. Then depending on day or night, the day lord and many other things the strength changes.

I am really doubtful about Nakshatra lord theory, at least not in Parashari Astrology. Those are Dasha lords. The most powerful planet(s) in a chart imparts its qualities to the native. When mixed with other planets the results change as one would expect.

[Priya dhillon]

Some of Saturn's characteristics (direct from texts) are being lazy, foolish, back biting, sorrowful, many bad things and some good things.

I dont know how you would apply this to horoscopes? may be to those where sat is dominant?
I have my lagna in saturn's nakshatra and sat in own house with 6 other planets but lagna has moon who is in budha's nakshatra. I dont have any of those qualities mentioned above, I hate back biters. my sisters have sat in lagna and have no such qualities as above.
Of course we need to see the most dominant planet whose qualities may prevail.
Also, one of my sisters and myself are also very fair skinned and other sister medium in color. So sat may not be dominant.

Imho this is what Saturn in good dignity represents.a strong sense of good and bad. Opposing what is wrong, unethical, against one's traditional values,belief system. And if some other planet is even more powerful. .that planet's qualities will get highlighted in day to day behaviour.but Saturn traits will still remain.

[joyd]

vs-Jupiter with which aspect ? on your Saturn..his 3 aspects works differently on planets.see my aspects thread once again and think about Jupiter mitigates point.Reg MTK point,view it as a general one not in particular with MTK degree.Physical significations are many, they are mainly the planets physical traits.For example-take mercury,his physical traits are young and boy like,he is short in looks ,he represents maternal uncles and aunts.so that are also comes under his physical significations.Now apply your logic for both exalted combustion and also debilitation combustion too. post them here.

joyd.

[Dev]

Thanks Priya, agree with you.

[Vivek Surya]

vs-Jupiter with which aspect ? on your Saturn..his 3 aspects works differently on planets. See my aspects thread once again and think about Jupiter mitigates point.
joyd.

Namah Shivaaya,
Yes Joyd bhaiyya, I remember in fact I've recommended to so many people to visit that topic. I thought like this, Jupiter's 9th aspect is like protecting the aspected bhaava like a father as you said, lets say exalted Saturn is there here. Jupiter's aspect from Aquarius might give wisdom from backbiting. Because the
person may use his wisdom? or is it father like protection, protecting Saturn's position (like a leadership) so as to protect this quality, the person uses backbiting techniques? But i thought as Jupiter represent wisdom, it mitigates it, any aspect of Jupiter should mitigates these affects i suppose...!?
5th aspect is like protecting the bhaava like protection to a child. So, Jupiter might warns Saturn like warning a child not to be like that!
Thanks

[hari766]

In my experience, exaltation of a planet, especially in a Kendra sthana, makes you feel like a Sun is shining in your life. All or most of your activities are influenced by it, directly or indirectly. Deep exaltation feels like mid-day, rather too scorching at times.

[Dev]

Hari:

Yes, you say from your horoscope or from that of your relatives or friends?
What about trikona sthanas and what about 2,3, 6,8,11 and 12? and what if he is lagna lord?