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For first marriage we analyze 7th house conjuctions and aspects and planets in it. For second marriage I am hearing 2 views - to see 11th house and to see 2n house.
Many astrologers who are fake keep looking at the 7th house over and over again and keep predicting that all the marriages will be disasters.
pls throw some light
Second marriage - planetary positions
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The 2nd house is the 8th to the 7th representing the first wife and it is generally after the death of the first wife that one will go in for second marriage. This rule only applies to sincere people.
In some sections of society, bigamy/polygamy (more than one wife), and polyandry (more than one husband) may not be as unusual.
Astrology is a science.
There are no separate rules for a specific section of the society for the marriage event in astrology.
Rule is rule. That's all. It should simultaneously and similarly apply through out the world for all.
2nd house denotes the longevity of spouse or 1st marriage.
But 2nd marriage is not related to 2nd house. why?
I remind again - In case of polygamy or polyandry first spouse (or 2nd) will not die.
Therefore, 2nd house is not at all related to 2nd marriage.
Coming to 2nd marriage -
9th house denotes the 2nd marriage. 11th house denotes the 3rd and so on.
But here is an important thing to note - "Without the help of 7th house, one cannot legally marry another."
It means only for legal marriages 7th house comes into picture.
For 2nd marriage - 7th and 9th houses are to be considered.
For 3rd marriage 7th and 11th houses, and so on.
Without 7th house connection, one cannot marry legally. Otherwise, without 7th, and with 2nd and 11th (or 9th), the relationship becomes illegal or one will keep a keep.
What if only 2nd spouse dies? how to check it?
2nd spouse is denoted by 9th house. 8th from 9th is 4th. So 4th house denotes the longevity of 2nd marriage.
All the above rules apply to both males and females.
In some sections of society, bigamy/polygamy (more than one wife), and polyandry (more than one husband) may not be as unusual.
Astrology is a science.
There are no separate rules for a specific section of the society for the marriage event in astrology.
Rule is rule. That's all. It should simultaneously and similarly apply through out the world for all.
2nd house denotes the longevity of spouse or 1st marriage.
But 2nd marriage is not related to 2nd house. why?
I remind again - In case of polygamy or polyandry first spouse (or 2nd) will not die.
Therefore, 2nd house is not at all related to 2nd marriage.
Coming to 2nd marriage -
9th house denotes the 2nd marriage. 11th house denotes the 3rd and so on.
But here is an important thing to note - "Without the help of 7th house, one cannot legally marry another."
It means only for legal marriages 7th house comes into picture.
For 2nd marriage - 7th and 9th houses are to be considered.
For 3rd marriage 7th and 11th houses, and so on.
Without 7th house connection, one cannot marry legally. Otherwise, without 7th, and with 2nd and 11th (or 9th), the relationship becomes illegal or one will keep a keep.
What if only 2nd spouse dies? how to check it?
2nd spouse is denoted by 9th house. 8th from 9th is 4th. So 4th house denotes the longevity of 2nd marriage.
All the above rules apply to both males and females.
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kanyalagna
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Hello!
Sorry for disturbing the conversation, but I have a question to Astrostar - and all who interested in that topic - fortunately maybe the answer will be useful for many people
Dear Astrostar,
You've mentioned this sentence: "Without the help of 7th house, one cannot LEGALLY marry another."
It makes me wonder, if somebody have afflicted 7th house, it can be meaning, that his/her marriages won't be successful, but what about cohabitation?
I've seen many charts - above thousand -, and I noticed that, there are lot of people, who have very afflicted 7th house, because of there are malefics in 7th house, or the 7th house weak, or anything else. I've made a database of them.
The experiences:
I noticed, that some of them never married, or their marriages ended in divorve or death.
But I noticed also lots of example for happines came in their life after struggles, hard times - for example they found their lovers in their thirties, or later, or their marriage was like a catastrophe, but their cohabitation was happy - obviously, after struggles, often after divorce(s).
Also I read a story about a woman, who had unsuccesful marriages. She felt in love when she was more than 40 years old. The astrologer adviced her, that she shouldn't marry for her partner, because of afflication of 7th house, but if they choose cohabitation, it can be better. They are still together.
If you found it interesting, I can show charts with similar stories.
Can somebody make happy lovelife, without legally marriage - just cohaibitation -, mixed with careful horoscope matching, later in life with afflicted 7th house?
God bless you,
Kanyalagna
Sorry for disturbing the conversation, but I have a question to Astrostar - and all who interested in that topic - fortunately maybe the answer will be useful for many people
Dear Astrostar,
You've mentioned this sentence: "Without the help of 7th house, one cannot LEGALLY marry another."
It makes me wonder, if somebody have afflicted 7th house, it can be meaning, that his/her marriages won't be successful, but what about cohabitation?
I've seen many charts - above thousand -, and I noticed that, there are lot of people, who have very afflicted 7th house, because of there are malefics in 7th house, or the 7th house weak, or anything else. I've made a database of them.
The experiences:
I noticed, that some of them never married, or their marriages ended in divorve or death.
But I noticed also lots of example for happines came in their life after struggles, hard times - for example they found their lovers in their thirties, or later, or their marriage was like a catastrophe, but their cohabitation was happy - obviously, after struggles, often after divorce(s).
Also I read a story about a woman, who had unsuccesful marriages. She felt in love when she was more than 40 years old. The astrologer adviced her, that she shouldn't marry for her partner, because of afflication of 7th house, but if they choose cohabitation, it can be better. They are still together.
If you found it interesting, I can show charts with similar stories.
Can somebody make happy lovelife, without legally marriage - just cohaibitation -, mixed with careful horoscope matching, later in life with afflicted 7th house?
God bless you,
Kanyalagna
"Happy love life" and "legal marriage" are entirely 2 distinct things. There is no relation between them.
Those who married legally may not live happily.
Those who get happy love life, may not get married in their entire life time.
One has to check their natal chart for the above two things separately.
The houses to look for cohabitation are only 2nd H and 11th H. 7th H will not come into picture.
5th house, Venus, Moon, Merc adds more happiness to cohabitation.
Coming to planets -
Saturn is the significator of private/secret cohabitation. Public can never know their affair.
Mar/Mer/Ven/Moo are the significators of public/open cohabitation. Public easily recognizes their affair.
When cohabitation transforms into legal marriage?
Cohabitation becomes a legal marriage, if and only if Saturn or above set (MA/ME/MO/VE) connected with 7th house.
I have seen some cohabiting couples, in whose charts 2nd, 5th, 7th, 11th houses are strongly connected with Saturn (and with/without venus/Moo/Mer/Mar).
Those cohabiting couples, who have Ven/Mer/Moo connected with 7th, got married.
Those cohabiting couples, who have Mar/Sat/Rah/Ket connected only with 7th house, did not get marry and separated.
The same analogy applies to legal arranged or legal love marriages.
Those who married legally may not live happily.
Those who get happy love life, may not get married in their entire life time.
One has to check their natal chart for the above two things separately.
The houses to look for cohabitation are only 2nd H and 11th H. 7th H will not come into picture.
5th house, Venus, Moon, Merc adds more happiness to cohabitation.
Coming to planets -
Saturn is the significator of private/secret cohabitation. Public can never know their affair.
Mar/Mer/Ven/Moo are the significators of public/open cohabitation. Public easily recognizes their affair.
When cohabitation transforms into legal marriage?
Cohabitation becomes a legal marriage, if and only if Saturn or above set (MA/ME/MO/VE) connected with 7th house.
I have seen some cohabiting couples, in whose charts 2nd, 5th, 7th, 11th houses are strongly connected with Saturn (and with/without venus/Moo/Mer/Mar).
Those cohabiting couples, who have Ven/Mer/Moo connected with 7th, got married.
Those cohabiting couples, who have Mar/Sat/Rah/Ket connected only with 7th house, did not get marry and separated.
The same analogy applies to legal arranged or legal love marriages.
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kanyalagna
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Thank you for your reply, it was so interesting
Regards,
Kanyalagna
Regards,
Kanyalagna
Kanyalagna ji,
I have had 2 marriages already and 2nd one about to break up. Can you please give your predictions based the above method. I have already posted on another thread. DoB 16. Ma y 1969, 10.15 am, madra s. I have tried for reunion. But unsuccessful. Is 3rd relationship/ marriage possible?
Thank you
I have had 2 marriages already and 2nd one about to break up. Can you please give your predictions based the above method. I have already posted on another thread. DoB 16. Ma y 1969, 10.15 am, madra s. I have tried for reunion. But unsuccessful. Is 3rd relationship/ marriage possible?
Thank you
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@Astrolover, thanks for bringing up a valid point.
@Astrostar and Kanyalagna, thanks for your valuable inputs.
Recently, I showed my kundali to a local astrologer and asked about my second marriage. The astrologer said:
Marriage time before Apr 2018. But it will be very compromising in every sense. Eg. if you are "X" in finances, looks etc etc. , the second husband would be "x/2" in everything. Also, married life would also be compromising.
The astrologer explained that your 7th house/lord is not good.
Please suggest.
Below are the details:
DOB: 27th Jan 1987
TOB: 01:30am
POB: Bulandshahr, UP
Looking forward to your detailed analysis.
Thank you.
@Astrostar and Kanyalagna, thanks for your valuable inputs.
Recently, I showed my kundali to a local astrologer and asked about my second marriage. The astrologer said:
Marriage time before Apr 2018. But it will be very compromising in every sense. Eg. if you are "X" in finances, looks etc etc. , the second husband would be "x/2" in everything. Also, married life would also be compromising.
The astrologer explained that your 7th house/lord is not good.
Please suggest.
Below are the details:
DOB: 27th Jan 1987
TOB: 01:30am
POB: Bulandshahr, UP
Looking forward to your detailed analysis.
Thank you.
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kanyalagna
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Dear Shiv,
I would like to help you, but unfortunately, I have more knowledge in Western Astrology than Vedic.
So I can help you in this perspective.
In Western, I use primary directions for prediction, which shows the most important events in person's life.
But Western Astrology is more focusing on 'free will', that's why I started learn Vedic as well.
In Vedic, I study charts' weaknesses, because I also have a weak, afflicted chart, so I can tell you, that you have an exalted Venus in 9th house, and exalted Moon in 11th house, meanwhile your 7th lord is debilitated. I've seen this formation in many people charts, who made succesfull marriage after divorce(s). But I would advise to you that you should ask an experienced astrologer as well, because it's based upon my research only.
Regards,
Kanyalagna
I would like to help you, but unfortunately, I have more knowledge in Western Astrology than Vedic.
So I can help you in this perspective.
In Western, I use primary directions for prediction, which shows the most important events in person's life.
But Western Astrology is more focusing on 'free will', that's why I started learn Vedic as well.
In Vedic, I study charts' weaknesses, because I also have a weak, afflicted chart, so I can tell you, that you have an exalted Venus in 9th house, and exalted Moon in 11th house, meanwhile your 7th lord is debilitated. I've seen this formation in many people charts, who made succesfull marriage after divorce(s). But I would advise to you that you should ask an experienced astrologer as well, because it's based upon my research only.
Regards,
Kanyalagna
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astrolover2017
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DOB: 27th Jan 1987
TOB: 01:30am
POB: Bulandshahr, UP
Your rasi is Dhanusu and lagna is Tulam.
7th lord is Mars and he is with ragu in friend house of Pisces. Second house of marriage has sani and 5th house of kids has karaka Jupiter in it. All these is bad positions and cause break. Tulam badhaka lord is Sun and he is in bitter enemy sani house and in 4th house of family and comfort so he broke the home
For second marriage - your 11th house lord sun is in enemy house but jupiter is aspecting your 11th house but it didnt aspect your 7th house
So surely your 2nd marriage will be better than first one and give you happiness.
TOB: 01:30am
POB: Bulandshahr, UP
Your rasi is Dhanusu and lagna is Tulam.
7th lord is Mars and he is with ragu in friend house of Pisces. Second house of marriage has sani and 5th house of kids has karaka Jupiter in it. All these is bad positions and cause break. Tulam badhaka lord is Sun and he is in bitter enemy sani house and in 4th house of family and comfort so he broke the home
For second marriage - your 11th house lord sun is in enemy house but jupiter is aspecting your 11th house but it didnt aspect your 7th house
So surely your 2nd marriage will be better than first one and give you happiness.
Shiv ji,
if 7th house shows plurality, then it gives 2nd marriage.
1) rule for 2nd marriage based on 7th house -
if 7th house is connected to common or dual signs, then 2nd marriage comes.
In your chart, 7th lord is Saturn. He is in Ashwini star ruled by ketu. Ketu is in Virgo, a common sign. So 7th lord is connected to common sign. Hence you got 2nd marriage.
if 9th house shows plurality, then it gives 3rd marriage.
2) rule for 3rd marriage based on 9th house -
If 9th house is connected with "Rahu or Ketu or Mercury" AND common signs, then 3rd marriage is sure.
In your chart Jupiter is the 9th lord, joined with Ketu in a common sign.
Venus is in 9th house, in Revathi star ruled by Mercury. Venus joined with Rahu.
Vivah Saham = Venus - Mars + VII
= 351 - 231 + 273 = 394 = 394 - 360 = 34. It is in Taurus 4 degrees. This point is ruled by Venus and Sun.
already Venus is connected with Rahu, Mercury and common sign.
Also, Venus and Sun are in CAP navamsa ruled by Saturn. Saturn in Aries 8th degree showing 3rd navamsa.
Hence, surely, you will marry 3rd time.
For 3rd marriage, we have to see 7th and 11th houses.
11th lord is Venus. 11th is occupied by Mercury. Ketu is in Mercury sign. So leave Mercury and take Ketu. Jupiter closely joined with Ketu. So Jupiter supports 3rd marriage. Consider 7th house to make it legal, and so Saturn comes. Saturn is in Ketu star. Indirectly Saturn is a significator of 11th house too.
Hence, Jupiter Venus Saturn Ketu or Mercury must involve in dasa.
From June 2018, Jupiter dasa Venus Bhukti Saturn Antara period will begin.
In April and May 2019, Jupiter dasa Venus Bhukti Ketu Antara period will run.
Since, planetary transit already agrees with first one, the time for 3rd marriage will be after June, 2018.
if 7th house shows plurality, then it gives 2nd marriage.
1) rule for 2nd marriage based on 7th house -
if 7th house is connected to common or dual signs, then 2nd marriage comes.
In your chart, 7th lord is Saturn. He is in Ashwini star ruled by ketu. Ketu is in Virgo, a common sign. So 7th lord is connected to common sign. Hence you got 2nd marriage.
if 9th house shows plurality, then it gives 3rd marriage.
2) rule for 3rd marriage based on 9th house -
If 9th house is connected with "Rahu or Ketu or Mercury" AND common signs, then 3rd marriage is sure.
In your chart Jupiter is the 9th lord, joined with Ketu in a common sign.
Venus is in 9th house, in Revathi star ruled by Mercury. Venus joined with Rahu.
Vivah Saham = Venus - Mars + VII
= 351 - 231 + 273 = 394 = 394 - 360 = 34. It is in Taurus 4 degrees. This point is ruled by Venus and Sun.
already Venus is connected with Rahu, Mercury and common sign.
Also, Venus and Sun are in CAP navamsa ruled by Saturn. Saturn in Aries 8th degree showing 3rd navamsa.
Hence, surely, you will marry 3rd time.
For 3rd marriage, we have to see 7th and 11th houses.
11th lord is Venus. 11th is occupied by Mercury. Ketu is in Mercury sign. So leave Mercury and take Ketu. Jupiter closely joined with Ketu. So Jupiter supports 3rd marriage. Consider 7th house to make it legal, and so Saturn comes. Saturn is in Ketu star. Indirectly Saturn is a significator of 11th house too.
Hence, Jupiter Venus Saturn Ketu or Mercury must involve in dasa.
From June 2018, Jupiter dasa Venus Bhukti Saturn Antara period will begin.
In April and May 2019, Jupiter dasa Venus Bhukti Ketu Antara period will run.
Since, planetary transit already agrees with first one, the time for 3rd marriage will be after June, 2018.
Thank you Sir for the analysis. One more question, you have mentioned about 11th house for second marriage.
However as per @astrostar,
It means only for legal marriages 7th house comes into picture.
For 2nd marriage - 7th and 9th houses are to be considered.
For 3rd marriage 7th and 11th houses, and so on.
11th houses will be considered for 3rd marraige.
However as per @astrostar,
It means only for legal marriages 7th house comes into picture.
For 2nd marriage - 7th and 9th houses are to be considered.
For 3rd marriage 7th and 11th houses, and so on.
11th houses will be considered for 3rd marraige.
SAPFI ji
Yes. for 2nd marriage, we have to see 9th house.
if 7th house shows plurality, then it gives 2nd marriage.
7th house connected to common/dual signs and mercury gives 2nd marriage.
Again, for 3rd marriage, we have to see 11th house.
if 9th house shows plurality, then it gives 3rd marriage.
9th house connected with "Rahu or Ketu or Mercury" AND common signs gives 3rd marriage.
Yes. for 2nd marriage, we have to see 9th house.
if 7th house shows plurality, then it gives 2nd marriage.
7th house connected to common/dual signs and mercury gives 2nd marriage.
Again, for 3rd marriage, we have to see 11th house.
if 9th house shows plurality, then it gives 3rd marriage.
9th house connected with "Rahu or Ketu or Mercury" AND common signs gives 3rd marriage.
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kanyalagna
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Dear Astrostar,
If somebody have less afflicted 9th house than 7th house, it means that his or her second marriage will be happier?
If somebody have less afflicted 9th house than 7th house, it means that his or her second marriage will be happier?
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astrolover2017
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I have known lots of learned astrologers who are well versed in ancient text that say 11th house and lord is key to 2nd marriage. 9th house is bhagyastan which is important for all major gifts you receive in life like marriage, kids, job, house, health etc. But for specific 2nd marriage 11th house lord becomes your 2nd husband and his strength will determine the strength of the marriage and husband. If 11th house is stronger than 7th house then surely 2 marriages will happen.
I am not talking about any sexual affairs, usually thats given by ragu and venus. I am saying legal marriage that you do and person whom you live with.
I am not talking about any sexual affairs, usually thats given by ragu and venus. I am saying legal marriage that you do and person whom you live with.
Thank you Astrostar ji for the detail analysis.
Is it also possible to tell the if the spouse will be local or foreign person? My 1st spose was foreigner, 2nd was local.
Also does the navsmsa show any indication of multiple marriages?
And will another marriage be a happy one?(3rd)
Thanks again
Is it also possible to tell the if the spouse will be local or foreign person? My 1st spose was foreigner, 2nd was local.
Also does the navsmsa show any indication of multiple marriages?
And will another marriage be a happy one?(3rd)
Thanks again
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poojitha11
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Is there any chance of a 2nd marriage in my horoscope and it will be successful? I was born on 5-7-1995 at 8:45 am in challapalli (Andhra Pradesh).I am divorced.
poojitha11,
Chart ascendant is borderline....placed on the edge requires rectification to confirm the sign. So cannot comment on your post.
Good luck.
Sujit.
Chart ascendant is borderline....placed on the edge requires rectification to confirm the sign. So cannot comment on your post.
Good luck.
Sujit.
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If you have the right knowledge, EXACT predictions can be made. Astrology is an incredible tool for guidance, and one should take note of the energies of changing dasha lords.
If you have the right knowledge, EXACT predictions can be made. Astrology is an incredible tool for guidance, and one should take note of the energies of changing dasha lords.
