Yoga on Tapping the Potential of Natural Benefic in the Ascendant

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Rathore

I have the 3rd yoga enumerated by you.

If the dispositors (you spelt the word wrongly) of Moon, Jupiter, Venus and Rahu are in kendras from Moon or Lagna, the native will be blessed with learning, wealth and numerous attendants.

This is the case for my chart whether you are talking about sign or nakshatra dispositors.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

The attendants part I used to thought it was because of Ahwini on my 10th house cusp (mentioned by me in an earlier post about people being helpful to me).

But I guess the main effect is from thi yoga.

In fact I have this yoga whether you are looking from the Moon or Lagna point of view. It becomes thus exceedingly strong. No wonder Moon in kendras in the native can up the ante for certain yogas since we always take the Moon as Ascendant after the Lagna, whatever the case.

[rathore]

Yes I am aware you have that Yog. Infact I am even aware about a Yog in your chart that is the bane of your existence, but I wouldn't write it because you will just blow it out of proportion. If I were to tell you about that Yog , you could probably stop doing all the Astro gymnastics around D charts, Nakshatra lords and what not. But maybe if you actually read some texts you will just come across it on your own.

About the #3 in question, it is not in great strength otherwise it would have come to pass in a much more grand manner. And just by being in Kendra to both Moon and Lagna is not an indicator of strength. Please study the strength chapters across a few texts and contemplate on them for a few months.

[rathore]

Also I doubt that 'dipositors' is a real word and the nearest real word is 'depositor'. That should have been obvious.

Its good you realize the main effect is from this Yog (if the effect really is there) and not some Ashwini make believe Yog. If anyone were to actually study a bunch of old texts for several years then there is little to no need of make believe concepts and yogas.

[Smacky]

Hock,

I doubt if you are using the correct ayanmasa to cast your horoscope.

Which one do you use? Lahiri or KP?

Thanks,

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Actually for Ashwini Nakahara, maximum help is obtained from outside the family members and especially not from the father. This also applies to the individual's co-born. This is true for me and my brother to a certain extent.

As is usual in Vedic astrology, a lot of factors come into play and they intertwine.

My analysis of the yogas and sign and Nakahara placements of my own various divisional charts does not invalidate of my admittance of the power of this yoga. The former gives the how. They are two separate analyzes and you should not confound one with the other.

[joyd]

Post by rathore » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:50 pm

1. If a node is in 6th or 8th while Venus is in Lagna, an excellent raj yog is formed.
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one has a scientific approach and zeal in judging a verse quoted by sages in our classics.Rathore given this verse in his reply comment.one can keep venus in lagna[from aries to pisces]and nodes either in 6 or 8 th house.It forms shad- ashtaka[-6-8] with venus.

now we can verify with each lagna whether it forms an excellent[as quoted by rathore] or time bound vipareeta rajayoga.

For aries venus becomes 2-7 lord.so there is no yoga for aries ascendent.

For Taurus she is 1-6 lord,which is forming 6-8 position gives vipareeta rajayoga,which is a time bounded one results in rahu-venus/ven-rahu/ketu-venus/ven-ketu dasa-antharas.why it is called vipareeta in nature?such yoga also gives unforeseen hurdles and difficulties too.so sage mentioned it as a vipareeta kind of raja yoga.

For Gemini,venus is 5-12th lord again .As 12th lord placed in lagna forms 6-8 position with nodes placed in either in 6th or 8th.

For Aries,cancer,Leo,Virgo,capricorn,Aquarius this verse wont not worked out.

For Libra,venus as 8th lord again favours the viparita yoga[time bound and dasa-antharas only].For scorpio as 12th lord,forming this yoga.For sagittarius as 6th lord,For pisces as 8th lord venus gives this vipareeta kind of yoga.

so for only 6 ascendent's this yoga applicable not for all 12 lagnas.

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Yesterday night around 9-10 pm i posted a reply to rathore ,mentioning the same and asked him what is the logic behind this toga formation.Unfortunately moderators not published that my given reply to rathore.In my reply i also asked him for which lagnas its applicable whether to a particular ascendant or for all.

regards/joyd.

[joyd]

4. The native will enjoy a supreme position if Venus and Rahu are in 7th house and are Vargottama.
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rathore pease give your analysis on this point.

regards/joyd

[joyd]

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Rathore

I have the 3rd yoga enumerated by you.

If the dispositors (you spelt the word wrongly) of Moon, Jupiter, Venus and Rahu are in kendras from Moon or Lagna, the native will be blessed with learning, wealth and numerous attendants.

This is the case for my chart whether you are talking about sign or nakshatra dispositors.
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rathore wrote in his comments as below-

4. The native will enjoy a supreme position if Venus and Rahu are in 7th house and are Vargottama.

Khoo-hope you had already passed one of the dasha-antharas of either rahu-venus or venus-rahu.If so whay kind of supreme position you achieved?please share them for the benefit of our members.

regards/joyd.

[rathore]

Khoo,

Make believe yogas have little to no standing against ones cited with textual reference. When one has a weak hold on Astrological concepts, then its proper to ignore 'make believe' theories for a while.

Joyd,

Again, you can classify the given yogas as you please. The yog clearly says Raj yog, and that's what it is.
You said 'Sage' mentioned so can you please cite the name of the Sage that talked about Vipreet Raj yog? Kalidas is not a Sage.
Besides can you give the source of the concept that planets being in shadashtak from their sign form Vipreet raj yog.

Keep in mind Vipreet Raj yog is a later day concept so if its to be believed, it is still a Raj Yog.

Given Yogas are responses with citations to your statement -- Nodes are not involved in any kind of rajayogas.
You can analyze them if you like but if Venus and Rahu being Vargottam in 7th house can give a supreme position then obviously Rahu can involve in Raj yogas.

[ChandraLagna]

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Yesterday night around 9-10 pm i posted a reply to rathore ,mentioning the same and asked him what is the logic behind this toga formation.Unfortunately moderators not published that my given reply to rathore.In my reply i also asked him for which lagnas its applicable whether to a particular ascendant or for all.

regards/joyd.

Joyd: I just verified the records & none of your posts has been disapproved by any moderator on Saturday. If indeed any post has been been rejected, please send me the mail and I shall see if there's been any other problem we are not aware of.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Let's recall the parents of the Ashwini Twins.

The Sun got a wife (forgot her name, was it Sandhya?) and the wife thought the Sun's effulgence was too much for her.

She cast her shadow called Charya to take her place and she became a mare and went to the riverside to graze and lead her own independent life.

In the meantime Charya bore the Sun Aswhini twins and Saturn.

Charya always defended her own flesh and blood and that was how the Sun found out that she was only the shadow of his wife and that his true wife was now actually mare far away. He turned into a stallion and join his wife.

The parallel to my parents are amazing.

My father is very autocratic so my mother whenever after school, she will go gallavanting. My brother and I were seldom looked by her, again to a certain extent as there are a lot of astrological factors involved (one reason I got looked after more by my parents than my borther is that I have Pushya rising in the Ascendant whereas he has Poorva Bhadapadra rising meaning he is quite independent and less attach to the family). The absen

[Khoo Hock Leong]

The absence of my mother is like Charya......and my brother and I became like the Ashwin twins in the sense there was no motherly care of our mother.

Many a times my mother left the house. My father always try to woo her back. The 'absent mother' Charya could not possible give the true motherly care that a flesh and blood mother can possibly give.

In the end when my mother fell ill, and my father looked after her intensely, she thanked my father and her overwhelming affection for my father filled up within her (Sandhya always love Surya, just like my mother always love my father).

But as far as my father is concerned, my brother and I, the Ashwin twins were only a replica of what his true sons could have been, and hence initially the bond was not there.

I have Pushya on my Ascendant and stayed on with my father so the bond re-developed. My brother being Poorva Bhadaprada on the Ascendant went to lead an independent and happily married life. As this nakshatra is ruled by Jupiter, he still come to see my father and they are still quite close.

[tejomaya]

Khoo,I do believe you will be better as an astrologer if you stopped analysing your own horoscope so much. People normally do not have the requisite detachment to look dispassionately at their own horoscopes. Using other examples will also give more credibility to your illustrations.