Dear Member's
I have come across a chart with a lot of malefic influence. Just curious how would that effect the native.
shani+rahu aspect on 2nd house, 2nd lord in lagna. would this effect on 8th house and if yes in what way.
rahu+mangal aspect on 4th house, 4th lord in 12th house. would this effect on the natives mood, any suicidal tendency.
shani+rahu aspect on 6th house, 6th lord in 11th house.
I have read somewhere about shrapit dosha. does these combination makes three shrapit yoga in the chart.
Thanks,
Talib
Malefic Influence
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zeest
Dear Talib,
Coincidentally, this is the exact position in my horoscope as well. Even I'd like to know whether it is some kind of a Shrapit Dosha. My birth details are:
7th Sept. 1980
Amritsar
11:00 AM
I'd appreciate if learned members take out some time to look into it.
Thanks.
Coincidentally, this is the exact position in my horoscope as well. Even I'd like to know whether it is some kind of a Shrapit Dosha. My birth details are:
7th Sept. 1980
Amritsar
11:00 AM
I'd appreciate if learned members take out some time to look into it.
Thanks.
Dear Zeest,
Interesting!!! your and my friend's chart are different though, could you please share what problem are you facing in regards to 2nd, 4th,6th and 8th house matters if any. you have one additional factor of rahu moon conjunction hardly one degree apart. May i ask your gender please.
Dear Members,
These two charts would be helpfull for many begineers here and includes question like, rahu moon conjunction, shrapit dosha, malefic aspects. So please put in your thoughts.
Love
Talib
Interesting!!! your and my friend's chart are different though, could you please share what problem are you facing in regards to 2nd, 4th,6th and 8th house matters if any. you have one additional factor of rahu moon conjunction hardly one degree apart. May i ask your gender please.
Dear Members,
These two charts would be helpfull for many begineers here and includes question like, rahu moon conjunction, shrapit dosha, malefic aspects. So please put in your thoughts.
Love
Talib
Dance of the Divine is "Thoughtless"
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Nitin21
Dear Talib,
TheSun is extremely powerful. An awwesome one. Very unlikely that the native will ever be displeased by the Govt related matters. A highly evolved individual with most inner conscience clear and has direction in life. Knows what he is doing.
Sun forming yoga with Jupiter means excellent gains and fantastic will power. And the 11th house also becomes 7th from AL. Good one. Rahu in 10th. Native is also running one of the best periods of life with Rahu in 10th. Although it will give some problems related to the profession. But will rise high and high during this period. Period from Jan 2010 onwards full year and till 2011 1st quarter will be good.
Saturn is the yoga karaka and placed in 12th will limit the beneficial results of yogakaraka in its antardashas. Most likely the native will settle abroad. Ketu in 4th will keeps him away from the family for one or the other reason. Mars in lagna and Rahu in 10th makes him fearless but he loses out a bit on expenses and money accumulation as mars is also 12th from itself. 10th lord in 8th is not good for job stability. But will not deprive him good status and financial rewards from job.
Native will be lucky in property related investments too.
I guess he had a good eventful 2002 whole year till mid 2003. He has'nt faced any major setbacks in life as yet. Unless a few minor probs in moon, ketu or Rahu antardasha. Nothing to worry though.
Overall Good chart. Not much to worry about except his mom.
Regards
sonu
TheSun is extremely powerful. An awwesome one. Very unlikely that the native will ever be displeased by the Govt related matters. A highly evolved individual with most inner conscience clear and has direction in life. Knows what he is doing.
Sun forming yoga with Jupiter means excellent gains and fantastic will power. And the 11th house also becomes 7th from AL. Good one. Rahu in 10th. Native is also running one of the best periods of life with Rahu in 10th. Although it will give some problems related to the profession. But will rise high and high during this period. Period from Jan 2010 onwards full year and till 2011 1st quarter will be good.
Saturn is the yoga karaka and placed in 12th will limit the beneficial results of yogakaraka in its antardashas. Most likely the native will settle abroad. Ketu in 4th will keeps him away from the family for one or the other reason. Mars in lagna and Rahu in 10th makes him fearless but he loses out a bit on expenses and money accumulation as mars is also 12th from itself. 10th lord in 8th is not good for job stability. But will not deprive him good status and financial rewards from job.
Native will be lucky in property related investments too.
I guess he had a good eventful 2002 whole year till mid 2003. He has'nt faced any major setbacks in life as yet. Unless a few minor probs in moon, ketu or Rahu antardasha. Nothing to worry though.
Overall Good chart. Not much to worry about except his mom.
Regards
sonu
Dear Astrosonu,
Thanks for reply, Sonu Ji, You didn't get my question, my post was regarding malefic effect on the three concerned houses and if they form any sharapit dosha? so this was more knowledge seeking query rather than asking for prediction. If you can please help me in that.
Reagrding your reading,
Yes, he is from army background having sun vargottama which is an add-on.
he is daring and fearless. presently, he is feeling very low due to jobs related issues. he tried committing suicide some time ago. Very rash in nature. So your overall reading is good. If you please give me answer's of my original query. Sonu Ji, I am not much in to predictive side of astrology. My concern is to understand the role of planets in a chart for self improvement. more clearly, i like to understand why a person got such and such planetry position and combination in his/her chart.Hope you understand my point.
All other member's are welcome to share their views because i have found lots of queries related to the same question's. it will help amateur like me.
Dear Zeest,
I was looking at your chart. apart from malefic influence on the concerned houses your moon rahu combination has been repetitive in your many D- charts. Better ask advice from senior members.
Love
Talib
Thanks for reply, Sonu Ji, You didn't get my question, my post was regarding malefic effect on the three concerned houses and if they form any sharapit dosha? so this was more knowledge seeking query rather than asking for prediction. If you can please help me in that.
Reagrding your reading,
Yes, he is from army background having sun vargottama which is an add-on.
he is daring and fearless. presently, he is feeling very low due to jobs related issues. he tried committing suicide some time ago. Very rash in nature. So your overall reading is good. If you please give me answer's of my original query. Sonu Ji, I am not much in to predictive side of astrology. My concern is to understand the role of planets in a chart for self improvement. more clearly, i like to understand why a person got such and such planetry position and combination in his/her chart.Hope you understand my point.
All other member's are welcome to share their views because i have found lots of queries related to the same question's. it will help amateur like me.
Dear Zeest,
I was looking at your chart. apart from malefic influence on the concerned houses your moon rahu combination has been repetitive in your many D- charts. Better ask advice from senior members.
Love
Talib
Dance of the Divine is "Thoughtless"
Sonu, Even I am curious, With so powerful and well placed Sun and exalted Moon, tho MO is in 8H but 8L in 9th and MO has no affliction apart from Mars which would make the individual rash or short tempered, what would be the reason for his suicide attempt ? 5H (mind) is aspected by all benefics except Rahu.....
Lagna lord tho weak is well placed too....
Please feel free to point out if I am interpreting it wrong....I am still at initial phase of learning ....
-thanks
Lagna lord tho weak is well placed too....
Please feel free to point out if I am interpreting it wrong....I am still at initial phase of learning ....
-thanks
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
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Nitin21
Dear Talib and Sinecurve,
First of all there is no such thing as Shrapit yoga or dosha. Not atleast in classics. It is more of a man made yoga to confuse people or make money out of nothing.
Coming to cursed yogas, it is difficult to look at the horoscope and find out unless specific problems are mentioned, as there are thousands of yogas in the classics.
for this particular horoscope, I don't see any curses. But Jupiter and mercury together form pitru rinh(not a curse) per classics.
Mars is an agressive planet and moon denotes psyche and emotions. In 8th house i.e. natural house of mars(number
and being aspected by Mars, brings in emotional aggression due to neglected upbringing by the mother in childhood. This constant emotional agression makes the person impose his own emotional thoughts on others and likes authority in such matters. When the other person is not reciprocating well, the martian ego is hurt. And this will constantly be the case since none likes to be emotionally upheld by the persons thoughts. Moon in taurus makes the persons emotions go even higher than normal as it is exalted. And Martian energy also gets high and high due to opression and due to gochar effects, if moon gets oppressed by more malefic planets, such native maybe unable to bear the emotional pain.
this may drive the person to the point of madness. If this was a similar example of Saturn aspecting moon with strength, the result would have been depression in emotions and not aggression. So the results wary.
Rahu in 10th makes the person extremely ambitious in professional matters. While Sun in 11th here helps this cause as fate, the mars moon combination disturbs him in his journey towards achievement of such Goal. And in the process, because these are govt matters and cause delay in judgements, appraisals etc and that there is no scope for individual egos there, the person may lose patience due to the aforesaid combination.
Moreover, if you see Mars and Moon neither gets drishti from a benefic planet. So, there is no reprieve either. Hence the suicidal thoughts.
Other than the negative part, this person is also a good cook because of the same combination. And if someone is cooking with him at the same time is equally good or helpful or cooperative to him in that aspect, that person will become very well connected to him as it will bring that person on the same emotional plane.
Saturn + Rahu do not form Shrapit yoga.
Saturn is yogakaraka so its aspect on 2nd house is good and gives money. Rahu in 10th aspecting 2nd house gives money too and a harsh speech. Although it creates problem in profession. It does not affect 8th house unless, there is some planet that casts drishti on 8th. There is none in this chart.
Mangal aspect on 4th gives landed property like bungalows, lands etc.
Rahu aspect on 4th house means ketu in 4th and as i said earlier, will keep the native away from home. Rahu's aspect on 4th casts negative drishti on mothers house and mother suffers depending on other factors. Here moon is also in 8th and Rahu is also in cancer i.e. sign of moon and mother. His mother would have suffered quite a bit due to domestic problems at home. Also affects person's education and gives obstacles. But since Saturn is the house owner and yogakaraka and 4th house is 5th from 12th where Saturn is placed, the person does ok and gets a degree. The same is applicable for mother too. Saturns aspect helps her.
6th lord in 11th means enemies cannot get through this person, as it is 6th from 6th. Also debts do not get accumulated. Companionship of Sun and Mercury strengthens this cause.
Hope this clears your queries.
Regards
Sonu
First of all there is no such thing as Shrapit yoga or dosha. Not atleast in classics. It is more of a man made yoga to confuse people or make money out of nothing.
Coming to cursed yogas, it is difficult to look at the horoscope and find out unless specific problems are mentioned, as there are thousands of yogas in the classics.
for this particular horoscope, I don't see any curses. But Jupiter and mercury together form pitru rinh(not a curse) per classics.
Mars is an agressive planet and moon denotes psyche and emotions. In 8th house i.e. natural house of mars(number
and being aspected by Mars, brings in emotional aggression due to neglected upbringing by the mother in childhood. This constant emotional agression makes the person impose his own emotional thoughts on others and likes authority in such matters. When the other person is not reciprocating well, the martian ego is hurt. And this will constantly be the case since none likes to be emotionally upheld by the persons thoughts. Moon in taurus makes the persons emotions go even higher than normal as it is exalted. And Martian energy also gets high and high due to opression and due to gochar effects, if moon gets oppressed by more malefic planets, such native maybe unable to bear the emotional pain. this may drive the person to the point of madness. If this was a similar example of Saturn aspecting moon with strength, the result would have been depression in emotions and not aggression. So the results wary.
Rahu in 10th makes the person extremely ambitious in professional matters. While Sun in 11th here helps this cause as fate, the mars moon combination disturbs him in his journey towards achievement of such Goal. And in the process, because these are govt matters and cause delay in judgements, appraisals etc and that there is no scope for individual egos there, the person may lose patience due to the aforesaid combination.
Moreover, if you see Mars and Moon neither gets drishti from a benefic planet. So, there is no reprieve either. Hence the suicidal thoughts.
Other than the negative part, this person is also a good cook because of the same combination. And if someone is cooking with him at the same time is equally good or helpful or cooperative to him in that aspect, that person will become very well connected to him as it will bring that person on the same emotional plane.
Saturn + Rahu do not form Shrapit yoga.
Saturn is yogakaraka so its aspect on 2nd house is good and gives money. Rahu in 10th aspecting 2nd house gives money too and a harsh speech. Although it creates problem in profession. It does not affect 8th house unless, there is some planet that casts drishti on 8th. There is none in this chart.
Mangal aspect on 4th gives landed property like bungalows, lands etc.
Rahu aspect on 4th house means ketu in 4th and as i said earlier, will keep the native away from home. Rahu's aspect on 4th casts negative drishti on mothers house and mother suffers depending on other factors. Here moon is also in 8th and Rahu is also in cancer i.e. sign of moon and mother. His mother would have suffered quite a bit due to domestic problems at home. Also affects person's education and gives obstacles. But since Saturn is the house owner and yogakaraka and 4th house is 5th from 12th where Saturn is placed, the person does ok and gets a degree. The same is applicable for mother too. Saturns aspect helps her.
6th lord in 11th means enemies cannot get through this person, as it is 6th from 6th. Also debts do not get accumulated. Companionship of Sun and Mercury strengthens this cause.
Hope this clears your queries.
Regards
Sonu
Sonu, Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I was actually wrong in concluding that only depression could cause suicidal tendency but heavy aggression could also be the culprit.
Seems RA-Ketu on 4/10 axis would trouble the parents, obviously taking the Lords and aspects into account, but generally speaking it would certainly not be positive for the parents.
I was looking at a LEO Lagna chart where native has Ketu in 10H in Scorpio (so Neech) with MA in 5H and 4L VE in 7H. If suppose we ignore other placements and aspects for now... Wonder if this combination will harm the father and business in any way ?
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Seems RA-Ketu on 4/10 axis would trouble the parents, obviously taking the Lords and aspects into account, but generally speaking it would certainly not be positive for the parents.
I was looking at a LEO Lagna chart where native has Ketu in 10H in Scorpio (so Neech) with MA in 5H and 4L VE in 7H. If suppose we ignore other placements and aspects for now... Wonder if this combination will harm the father and business in any way ?
- thanks
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
Sonu, One more question, I have heard that strength of 6L defines how powerful your enemy is.... like for me.... my most powerful planet is 6L/11L Mars(15 degree) in 11H.... and i have noticed the same in my case.....more powerful your 6L is ...the more powerful enemies you face. is it true ?astrosonu wrote:
6th lord in 11th means enemies cannot get through this person, as it is 6th from 6th. Also debts do not get accumulated. Companionship of Sun and Mercury strengthens this cause.
Hope this clears your queries.
Regards
Sonu
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'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
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Nitin21
Yes Rahu-ketu in 4/10 axis bring problems for parents. But if the nodes are aspected by a strong jupiter, venus or mercury the results turn to be favourable instead of problems. Debiliation increases the problems and exaltation reduces the nodal issues.
Secondly, if you tke leo lagna, 4th Lord cannot be venus, and 10th house cannot be scorpio. Pl give me birth details for assesment.
Also ketu is not debiliated in scorpio, infact it is exalted. Rahu is debiliated in scorpio.
Secondly, if you tke leo lagna, 4th Lord cannot be venus, and 10th house cannot be scorpio. Pl give me birth details for assesment.
Also ketu is not debiliated in scorpio, infact it is exalted. Rahu is debiliated in scorpio.
[/quote]sinecurve wrote:Sonu, Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I was actually wrong in concluding that only depression could cause suicidal tendency but heavy aggression could also be the culprit.
Seems RA-Ketu on 4/10 axis would trouble the parents, obviously taking the Lords and aspects into account, but generally speaking it would certainly not be positive for the parents.
I was looking at a LEO Lagna chart where native has Ketu in 10H in Scorpio (so Neech) with MA in 5H and 4L VE in 7H. If suppose we ignore other placements and aspects for now... Wonder if this combination will harm the father and business in any way ?
- thanks
[/quote]astrosonu wrote:Yes Rahu-ketu in 4/10 axis bring problems for parents. But if the nodes are aspected by a strong jupiter, venus or mercury the results turn to be favourable instead of problems. Debiliation increases the problems and exaltation reduces the nodal issues.
Secondly, if you tke leo lagna, 4th Lord cannot be venus, and 10th house cannot be scorpio. Pl give me birth details for assesment.
Also ketu is not debiliated in scorpio, infact it is exalted. Rahu is debiliated in scorpio.
sinecurve wrote:Sonu, Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I was actually wrong in concluding that only depression could cause suicidal tendency but heavy aggression could also be the culprit.
Seems RA-Ketu on 4/10 axis would trouble the parents, obviously taking the Lords and aspects into account, but generally speaking it would certainly not be positive for the parents.
I was looking at a LEO Lagna chart where native has Ketu in 10H in Scorpio (so Neech) with MA in 5H and 4L VE in 7H. If suppose we ignore other placements and aspects for now... Wonder if this combination will harm the father and business in any way ?
- thanks
Actually I was analyzing some chart on the forum but cant remember it now. I wrote it the other way...Leo lagna but it was Rahu in 4H in Scorpio (so debilitated) and ketu in 10th in taurus so 4L in 5th and 10L in 7th. Sorry 'bout it !!!
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
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Nitin21
No this will not harm the father. If you take 9th house as father, 7th house is 11th from 9th. So venus comes in 7th. And Mars in Sagitarus in 5th house here is not bad.
Actually I was analyzing some chart on the forum but cant remember it now. I wrote it the other way...Leo lagna but it was Rahu in 4H in Scorpio (so debilitated) and ketu in 10th in taurus so 4L in 5th and 10L in 7th. Sorry 'bout it !!![/quote]sinecurve wrote:astrosonu wrote:Yes Rahu-ketu in 4/10 axis bring problems for parents. But if the nodes are aspected by a strong jupiter, venus or mercury the results turn to be favourable instead of problems. Debiliation increases the problems and exaltation reduces the nodal issues.
Secondly, if you tke leo lagna, 4th Lord cannot be venus, and 10th house cannot be scorpio. Pl give me birth details for assesment.
Also ketu is not debiliated in scorpio, infact it is exalted. Rahu is debiliated in scorpio.
sinecurve wrote:Sonu, Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I was actually wrong in concluding that only depression could cause suicidal tendency but heavy aggression could also be the culprit.
Seems RA-Ketu on 4/10 axis would trouble the parents, obviously taking the Lords and aspects into account, but generally speaking it would certainly not be positive for the parents.
I was looking at a LEO Lagna chart where native has Ketu in 10H in Scorpio (so Neech) with MA in 5H and 4L VE in 7H. If suppose we ignore other placements and aspects for now... Wonder if this combination will harm the father and business in any way ?
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Thanks Sonu !! What are the malefic effects of Debilitated Ketu in 10th, I am sure its not as good as Rahu from business prospective.astrosonu wrote:No this will not harm the father. If you take 9th house as father, 7th house is 11th from 9th. So venus comes in 7th. And Mars in Sagitarus in 5th house here is not bad.
sinecurve wrote:Actually I was analyzing some chart on the forum but cant remember it now. I wrote it the other way...Leo lagna but it was Rahu in 4H in Scorpio (so debilitated) and ketu in 10th in taurus so 4L in 5th and 10L in 7th. Sorry 'bout it !!!astrosonu wrote:Yes Rahu-ketu in 4/10 axis bring problems for parents. But if the nodes are aspected by a strong jupiter, venus or mercury the results turn to be favourable instead of problems. Debiliation increases the problems and exaltation reduces the nodal issues.
Secondly, if you tke leo lagna, 4th Lord cannot be venus, and 10th house cannot be scorpio. Pl give me birth details for assesment.
Also ketu is not debiliated in scorpio, infact it is exalted. Rahu is debiliated in scorpio.
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
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Nitin21
Business effects are ruled by 7th house of partnerships and agreements. !0th house is only supplementary.
sinecurve wrote:Thanks Sonu !! What are the malefic effects of Debilitated Ketu in 10th, I am sure its not as good as Rahu from business prospective.astrosonu wrote:No this will not harm the father. If you take 9th house as father, 7th house is 11th from 9th. So venus comes in 7th. And Mars in Sagitarus in 5th house here is not bad.
sinecurve wrote: Actually I was analyzing some chart on the forum but cant remember it now. I wrote it the other way...Leo lagna but it was Rahu in 4H in Scorpio (so debilitated) and ketu in 10th in taurus so 4L in 5th and 10L in 7th. Sorry 'bout it !!!
Hello, Am Ashish Sharma born on
30th January 1979 at 22:40 Hrs. Raipur (CG).
I have Virgo Ascendant.
I have Venus in 4th house.
I have Sun, Mars & Mercury in 5th house.
I have Moon & Ketu in 6th house.
I have Jupiter in 11th house.
I have Shani & Rahu in 12th house.
I have Exalted Jupiter & Mars.
What Boons & Banes Has been Destined for me.
Kindly help.
My Questions are:
1. Do I have Pitr Dosh?
2. Does My Venus help in Property & Land?
3. When will I be stable financially?
4. Will I get Glory & Recognition in life and in which Field of Work?
5. Why Am I Here?
Thank You All.
Regards.
Ashish Sharma.
30th January 1979 at 22:40 Hrs. Raipur (CG).
I have Virgo Ascendant.
I have Venus in 4th house.
I have Sun, Mars & Mercury in 5th house.
I have Moon & Ketu in 6th house.
I have Jupiter in 11th house.
I have Shani & Rahu in 12th house.
I have Exalted Jupiter & Mars.
What Boons & Banes Has been Destined for me.
Kindly help.
My Questions are:
1. Do I have Pitr Dosh?
2. Does My Venus help in Property & Land?
3. When will I be stable financially?
4. Will I get Glory & Recognition in life and in which Field of Work?
5. Why Am I Here?
Thank You All.
Regards.
Ashish Sharma.
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