SATURN MD SATURN AD - A RISE OR FALL
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Is Saturn MD same for all Lagna's? I am going thru Saturn MD and Mercury AD. Saturn MD was troublesome mainly with son going thru depression there by studying badly. Otherwise, it was normal, but we had to move the family from one state to another state.
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Postby Haresh Kumar » 01 Feb 2016, 22:48
You have come back to square one. Harry Truman has 9/ 10 exchange in D 1 !
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A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
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Haresh ji,
I have a question regarding Sat MD. If the initial period of Sat AD and Mer AD was good and did bring in success, followed by a very bad Ve AD..what happens next. will the remaining Sat MD for the next 8-9 years be still bad or does it improve again? If ke and Ve MD were bad, would Sun AD bring some respite or some other AD after that?
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I have a question regarding Sat MD. If the initial period of Sat AD and Mer AD was good and did bring in success, followed by a very bad Ve AD..what happens next. will the remaining Sat MD for the next 8-9 years be still bad or does it improve again? If ke and Ve MD were bad, would Sun AD bring some respite or some other AD after that?
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With respect to Saturn MD and its sub periods there are many variations and parameters including placement and strength. We have to keep these combinations and variations in mind, and then come to a judgement.
Your Venus AD coincided with Sade Sati so it was worse.
In your case Saturn MD upto Venus AD (transit of Saturn from Gemini to Virgo) witnessed momentum so the trends could be more muted now.
Your Sun is placed in the 10th house in your horoscope and Jupiter is transiting it, so professional developments will take place which will prove beneficial. The Sun is Vargottama and is placed in the 10th in Dasama. Rahu is now also transiting your tenth so there could be sudden developments in this connection. As transit Saturn is aspecting the tenth house also there could be delays or some disappointments. However developments now should benefit you professionally in the years ahead.
When your Sade Sati finally ends in 2017, Saturn will no longer influence your Sun and 10th house. In the periods ahead there will be good phases and bad phase in various sub periods.. There will be benefit from and positive developments related to your children after 3/4 years.
Best regards
With respect to Saturn MD and its sub periods there are many variations and parameters including placement and strength. We have to keep these combinations and variations in mind, and then come to a judgement.
Your Venus AD coincided with Sade Sati so it was worse.
In your case Saturn MD upto Venus AD (transit of Saturn from Gemini to Virgo) witnessed momentum so the trends could be more muted now.
Your Sun is placed in the 10th house in your horoscope and Jupiter is transiting it, so professional developments will take place which will prove beneficial. The Sun is Vargottama and is placed in the 10th in Dasama. Rahu is now also transiting your tenth so there could be sudden developments in this connection. As transit Saturn is aspecting the tenth house also there could be delays or some disappointments. However developments now should benefit you professionally in the years ahead.
When your Sade Sati finally ends in 2017, Saturn will no longer influence your Sun and 10th house. In the periods ahead there will be good phases and bad phase in various sub periods.. There will be benefit from and positive developments related to your children after 3/4 years.
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Thanks Haresh ji..
Still 9 more years of Sat MD to go... with muted effects!! just praying for those intermittent rays of hope!!
My question is since things are not working for me here right now..is it now time to pack bags and move back? or is there movement related to another country sometime soon??
Still 9 more years of Sat MD to go... with muted effects!! just praying for those intermittent rays of hope!!
My question is since things are not working for me here right now..is it now time to pack bags and move back? or is there movement related to another country sometime soon??
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That is a very pessimistic interpretation. 'Muted' is much better than bad. Sometimes a muted phase, is better than a boom period, because you face challenges and grow. You are also below the radar.
There is a thing called free will. The very fact that your children are moving up indicates an upward curve after a couple of years. A strong tenth lord indicates that if you take steps to enhance your qualifications you will succeed, and that will come into use when you encounter your 'second wind'.
After all a birth chart is not a magic carpet! It is more like a map. It tells a person in a desert that an oasis is at hand, or a person that if he face challenges he could end up in a circumstances far beyond his expectations. It also indicates rough edges or weak points in your character which you could rectify. If there was no free will then astrology would be of no use.
That is a very pessimistic interpretation. 'Muted' is much better than bad. Sometimes a muted phase, is better than a boom period, because you face challenges and grow. You are also below the radar.
There is a thing called free will. The very fact that your children are moving up indicates an upward curve after a couple of years. A strong tenth lord indicates that if you take steps to enhance your qualifications you will succeed, and that will come into use when you encounter your 'second wind'.
After all a birth chart is not a magic carpet! It is more like a map. It tells a person in a desert that an oasis is at hand, or a person that if he face challenges he could end up in a circumstances far beyond his expectations. It also indicates rough edges or weak points in your character which you could rectify. If there was no free will then astrology would be of no use.
Best regards. Sweet are the uses of adversity,
Which, like the toad, ugly and venomous,
Wears yet a precious jewel in his head;
And this our life, exempt from public haunt,
Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks,
Sermons in stones, and good in every thing.
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Haresh ji,
Thank you very much for your kind and insightful words. I agree, it is best to look at these as learning points to grow. And yes, muted is better than bad!! So I have to keep on working...trying...will get what I am meant to!!
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Thank you very much for your kind and insightful words. I agree, it is best to look at these as learning points to grow. And yes, muted is better than bad!! So I have to keep on working...trying...will get what I am meant to!!
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Saturn Maha Dasa Saturn Antar Dasa ......... A Major and Positive Turning Point
While human effort is a necessary and key component in any undertaking, it has been established, that there are times in every individuals life, when he shines beyond his usual capacity and events move in quick succession in his favour, propelling him forward and upward, the results exceeding far beyond his most optimistic projections. This is often followed by a period of 7 to 8 years of rapid growth and expansion, which marks a key turning point in his life, which he remembers in hindsight as a major take off and prosperous period.
These periods may occur in his youth, adulthood or even in some case when he is in his early fifties. They may occur twice in a persons life, interspersed by problematic phases in between. In the case of Saturn Maha Dasa Saturn Antar Dasa there are shades and nuances in connection with its influence and impact. Here the focus is on the period of Saturn Mahadasa Saturn Antar Dasa acting as a major turnaround period.
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Generally the effects of key Dasa and Antar Dasas are not felt immediately and manifest after about one or two years after the start of the relevant period. This is especially so in the case of periods having long time spans like Venus (20 years) Saturn (19 years) and Mercury (17 years) as opposed to those having short time spans like Sun (6 years) and Mars (7 years).
There are two examples given of excellent results experienced during the period of Saturn MD and Saturn AD that of 1. Satyajit Ray and 2. Amitabh Bachchan .
Satyajit Ray :
Satyajit Ray regarded as one of the great filmmakers of the 20th century was born on 2nd May 1921. Satyajit Ray was a multi talented genius, who directed 36 films, including feature films, documentaries and shorts ; a fiction writer, publisher, illustrator, calligrapher, music composer, graphic designer and film critic. He authored several short stories and novels.
Ray received many major awards in his career, including 32 Indian National Film
Awards , a number of awards at international film festivals and award ceremonies, and an
Academy Honorary Award in 1992. The Government of India honored him with the Bharat Ratna in 1992.
http://www.astrosage.com/celebrity-horo ... -chart.asp
In the horoscope of Ray, Aries rises with the fifth lord Sun exalted in the Lagna along with Venus and Mercury. (these planetary placements in Aries, are found in the horoscope of another artistic icon in West Bengal Rabindranath Tagore.).
This planetary grouping is placed in the third house from the Moon a recurring feature in the horoscopes of many creative icons.(Munshi Premchand/Bernard Shaw). The Lagna lord Mars and the second lord Venus are in exchange. Jupiter and Saturn the 9th and 10th lords are conjoined in the 5th house aspected by the 4th lord Moon, and Lagna lord Mars forming a powerful Raja Yoga in the fifth house of Poorva Punya . When Jupiter and Saturn are conjoined in yoga combination, Saturn Dasa is usually found to be prosperous and fruitful. The fifth and ninth houses indicate forbears and Satyajit Ray's father Sukumar Ray and grandfather Upendrakishore Ray were both writers, critics and illustrators.
The 5th and 9th lords are strongly placed indicating powerful Poorvapunya ready for fructification. There is Gajkesari Yoga and Chandra Mangal Yoga. Jupiter which influences and aspects all planets in the horoscope except Mars is the 9th lord and is Vargottama. Mercury and Venus the two key planets are placed in their own houses in the Navamsa and the Dasamsa. Jupiter and Saturn are both are debilitated in the Dasamsa and as these planets are retrograde they assume exaltation powers. Saturn as the 9th lord in the Dasamsa is placed in the 11th house and is involved in exchange with the 11th lord Mars.
What is of interest here is the Saturn Maha Dasa Saturn Antar Dasa, which lasted from the 25th August 1953 to 28th August 1956. (the period of Saturn MD Saturn AD is 3 years 3 days)
Prior to making his first film he was variously, a visualiser, illustrator and copywriter in the advertising agency D.J. Kerner and the publishing house Signet Press. Among the books for which he designed the cover and illustrated, was a version of Pather Panchali a classic Bengali novel by Bibhutibhushan Bandyopadhyay , first published in 1928, which he was determined to make into a film.
He started shooting the film his first in October1952 in his Jupiter MD Rahu AD (1.4.51 to 25.8.53) which comes just before Saturn MD Saturn AD. The cast consisted mostly of amateur actors and he had used all his personal savings and due to financial problems the film took 3 years to complete. He faced major problems at the penultimate stage and finally completed the film after receiving a loan from the West Bengal government. It may be noted that this was during the Chara Dasa of Virgo from which practically all planets were placed in the 6th, 8th and 12th.
The film was released on 26th August 1955 to great critical and and commercial success. It won eleven international prizes, including the inaugural Best Human Document award at the 1956 Cannes Film Festival. Ray did the scripting , casting, scoring , and editing, and designed his own credit titles and publicity material. The film made on a shoestring budget exceeded all his expectations and catapulted him to the very top, raising him to a rank of eminence he held till his death.
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While human effort is a necessary and key component in any undertaking, it has been established, that there are times in every individuals life, when he shines beyond his usual capacity and events move in quick succession in his favour, propelling him forward and upward, the results exceeding far beyond his most optimistic projections. This is often followed by a period of 7 to 8 years of rapid growth and expansion, which marks a key turning point in his life, which he remembers in hindsight as a major take off and prosperous period.
These periods may occur in his youth, adulthood or even in some case when he is in his early fifties. They may occur twice in a persons life, interspersed by problematic phases in between. In the case of Saturn Maha Dasa Saturn Antar Dasa there are shades and nuances in connection with its influence and impact. Here the focus is on the period of Saturn Mahadasa Saturn Antar Dasa acting as a major turnaround period.
.
Generally the effects of key Dasa and Antar Dasas are not felt immediately and manifest after about one or two years after the start of the relevant period. This is especially so in the case of periods having long time spans like Venus (20 years) Saturn (19 years) and Mercury (17 years) as opposed to those having short time spans like Sun (6 years) and Mars (7 years).
There are two examples given of excellent results experienced during the period of Saturn MD and Saturn AD that of 1. Satyajit Ray and 2. Amitabh Bachchan .
Satyajit Ray :
Satyajit Ray regarded as one of the great filmmakers of the 20th century was born on 2nd May 1921. Satyajit Ray was a multi talented genius, who directed 36 films, including feature films, documentaries and shorts ; a fiction writer, publisher, illustrator, calligrapher, music composer, graphic designer and film critic. He authored several short stories and novels.
Ray received many major awards in his career, including 32 Indian National Film
Awards , a number of awards at international film festivals and award ceremonies, and an
Academy Honorary Award in 1992. The Government of India honored him with the Bharat Ratna in 1992.
http://www.astrosage.com/celebrity-horo ... -chart.asp
In the horoscope of Ray, Aries rises with the fifth lord Sun exalted in the Lagna along with Venus and Mercury. (these planetary placements in Aries, are found in the horoscope of another artistic icon in West Bengal Rabindranath Tagore.).
This planetary grouping is placed in the third house from the Moon a recurring feature in the horoscopes of many creative icons.(Munshi Premchand/Bernard Shaw). The Lagna lord Mars and the second lord Venus are in exchange. Jupiter and Saturn the 9th and 10th lords are conjoined in the 5th house aspected by the 4th lord Moon, and Lagna lord Mars forming a powerful Raja Yoga in the fifth house of Poorva Punya . When Jupiter and Saturn are conjoined in yoga combination, Saturn Dasa is usually found to be prosperous and fruitful. The fifth and ninth houses indicate forbears and Satyajit Ray's father Sukumar Ray and grandfather Upendrakishore Ray were both writers, critics and illustrators.
The 5th and 9th lords are strongly placed indicating powerful Poorvapunya ready for fructification. There is Gajkesari Yoga and Chandra Mangal Yoga. Jupiter which influences and aspects all planets in the horoscope except Mars is the 9th lord and is Vargottama. Mercury and Venus the two key planets are placed in their own houses in the Navamsa and the Dasamsa. Jupiter and Saturn are both are debilitated in the Dasamsa and as these planets are retrograde they assume exaltation powers. Saturn as the 9th lord in the Dasamsa is placed in the 11th house and is involved in exchange with the 11th lord Mars.
What is of interest here is the Saturn Maha Dasa Saturn Antar Dasa, which lasted from the 25th August 1953 to 28th August 1956. (the period of Saturn MD Saturn AD is 3 years 3 days)
Prior to making his first film he was variously, a visualiser, illustrator and copywriter in the advertising agency D.J. Kerner and the publishing house Signet Press. Among the books for which he designed the cover and illustrated, was a version of Pather Panchali a classic Bengali novel by Bibhutibhushan Bandyopadhyay , first published in 1928, which he was determined to make into a film.
He started shooting the film his first in October1952 in his Jupiter MD Rahu AD (1.4.51 to 25.8.53) which comes just before Saturn MD Saturn AD. The cast consisted mostly of amateur actors and he had used all his personal savings and due to financial problems the film took 3 years to complete. He faced major problems at the penultimate stage and finally completed the film after receiving a loan from the West Bengal government. It may be noted that this was during the Chara Dasa of Virgo from which practically all planets were placed in the 6th, 8th and 12th.
The film was released on 26th August 1955 to great critical and and commercial success. It won eleven international prizes, including the inaugural Best Human Document award at the 1956 Cannes Film Festival. Ray did the scripting , casting, scoring , and editing, and designed his own credit titles and publicity material. The film made on a shoestring budget exceeded all his expectations and catapulted him to the very top, raising him to a rank of eminence he held till his death.
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This film, along with Aparajito (1956), and Apur Sansar ( The World of Apu ) (1959) form the famous Apu Trilogy . Ray received many major awards in his career, including 32 Indian National Film Awards , a number of awards at international film festivals and award ceremonies, and an Academy Honorary Award in 1992. The Government of India honored him with the Bharat Ratna
in 1992.
At that time Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus were transiting the fifth from his Lagna over natal Jupiter and Saturn. Exalted Jupiter was transiting the sixth from Moon a position often found during turn around phases. Jupiter moved into the 7th house from the Moon on 1st October 1955 transiting the 5th house from Lagna over his natal Jupiter and Saturn and throwing its aspect over the Moon in Aquarius and the grouping of planets in Aries covering practically all the planets and it was after this that developments took on a momentum of its own and pushed him upwards. It earned numerous prizes and had long runs in both India and abroad, and set him on to a long prosperous career.
This was during Saturn/Saturn/Mars. Here the breakthrough came two years after the start of Saturn MD Saturn AD the first Antar Dasa in the Dasa of Saturn.
in 1992.
At that time Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus were transiting the fifth from his Lagna over natal Jupiter and Saturn. Exalted Jupiter was transiting the sixth from Moon a position often found during turn around phases. Jupiter moved into the 7th house from the Moon on 1st October 1955 transiting the 5th house from Lagna over his natal Jupiter and Saturn and throwing its aspect over the Moon in Aquarius and the grouping of planets in Aries covering practically all the planets and it was after this that developments took on a momentum of its own and pushed him upwards. It earned numerous prizes and had long runs in both India and abroad, and set him on to a long prosperous career.
This was during Saturn/Saturn/Mars. Here the breakthrough came two years after the start of Saturn MD Saturn AD the first Antar Dasa in the Dasa of Saturn.
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Amitabh Bachchan was born on October 11 1942 at 16.00 hrs (War Time) (Standard Time to be taken as 6.30) at Allahabad 25N57 81.50 IST h6.30e (War Time).
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Amitabh has Aquarius rising with Saturn Lagna lord placed in an angle in a friendly sign and is in retrograde motion. The Sun the Atmakaraka is conjoined with the Amatyakara Mercury in the eighth house. Mercury is exalted in the eighth house in Virgo and Venus has obtained neechabhanga. Jupiter is exalted in the sixth house from Lagna and in the tenth from Moon and is Vargottama. The Moon is in the ninth house. In the Navamsa Jupiter is exalted Sun and Venus are in their own house. Venus is in the tenth from Karakamsa.
He had made an entry into the film industry in 1969 with the film 'Saat Hindustani' in , Jupiter MD and Rahu AD. This was a period of struggle and the one film worth mention in this period was 'Anand' in which he played a supporting role to Rajesh Khanna. Saturn MD Saturn AD marked a turning point in his life with the release of the blockbuster film ' Zanjeer' after which his career took off.
Jupiter MD Rahu AD operated from 12th June 1969 to 6th Nov 1971
Amitabh Bachchan began his film career in 1969 .
His first film 'Saat Hindustani' was released on 7th November 1969 in Jupt/Rahu/Jupt
This was a period of struggle with films receiving a cold reception.
The only film of consequence was 'Anand' in which he played a supporting role to Rajesh Khanna. It was released on 5th March 1971 during Jupt/Rahu/Venus.
Sat MD Sat AD operated from 6th November 1971 to 9th November 1974.
With the release of the blockbuster 'Zanjeer' Amitabh's career took off. Other films like Deewar and Sholay followed .
'Zanjeer ' was released on 11th May 1973 in Sat/Sat/Venus
He married on 3rd June 1973 also during Sat/Sat/Venus.
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Transits
Jupiter was transiting Sagittarius the unfavourable 3rd from his Libra (Thula )Janma Rasi from 6th January 1972 to 25th January 1973. It was transiting the 4th from 25th January 1973 to 9th Feb 1974. In practice the 3rd house transit is more problematic than the 4th house transit which is more of a via media.
Saturn was transiting Taurus the unfavourable 8th from his Libra (Thula) Janma Rasi from 28th April 1971 to 10th June 1973.
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Here again the major breakthrough came about 2 years after the start of Saturn MD Saturn AD
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Amitabh has Aquarius rising with Saturn Lagna lord placed in an angle in a friendly sign and is in retrograde motion. The Sun the Atmakaraka is conjoined with the Amatyakara Mercury in the eighth house. Mercury is exalted in the eighth house in Virgo and Venus has obtained neechabhanga. Jupiter is exalted in the sixth house from Lagna and in the tenth from Moon and is Vargottama. The Moon is in the ninth house. In the Navamsa Jupiter is exalted Sun and Venus are in their own house. Venus is in the tenth from Karakamsa.
He had made an entry into the film industry in 1969 with the film 'Saat Hindustani' in , Jupiter MD and Rahu AD. This was a period of struggle and the one film worth mention in this period was 'Anand' in which he played a supporting role to Rajesh Khanna. Saturn MD Saturn AD marked a turning point in his life with the release of the blockbuster film ' Zanjeer' after which his career took off.
Jupiter MD Rahu AD operated from 12th June 1969 to 6th Nov 1971
Amitabh Bachchan began his film career in 1969 .
His first film 'Saat Hindustani' was released on 7th November 1969 in Jupt/Rahu/Jupt
This was a period of struggle with films receiving a cold reception.
The only film of consequence was 'Anand' in which he played a supporting role to Rajesh Khanna. It was released on 5th March 1971 during Jupt/Rahu/Venus.
Sat MD Sat AD operated from 6th November 1971 to 9th November 1974.
With the release of the blockbuster 'Zanjeer' Amitabh's career took off. Other films like Deewar and Sholay followed .
'Zanjeer ' was released on 11th May 1973 in Sat/Sat/Venus
He married on 3rd June 1973 also during Sat/Sat/Venus.
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Transits
Jupiter was transiting Sagittarius the unfavourable 3rd from his Libra (Thula )Janma Rasi from 6th January 1972 to 25th January 1973. It was transiting the 4th from 25th January 1973 to 9th Feb 1974. In practice the 3rd house transit is more problematic than the 4th house transit which is more of a via media.
Saturn was transiting Taurus the unfavourable 8th from his Libra (Thula) Janma Rasi from 28th April 1971 to 10th June 1973.
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Here again the major breakthrough came about 2 years after the start of Saturn MD Saturn AD
Dev Yoga
Postby anuradha » 15 Mar 2014, 16:15
If the Dreshkone Lagna lord is also the Lord of Lagna and the Navmansha Lagna Lord is the Lord of 9H of Rashi Chart[D-1]. e.g Scorpio Lagna at 2 degree, makes the first Dreshkone[10 degree each] so the Dreshkone Lagna is also Scorpio. The Navmansha will be Cancer the 9H of Rashi chart.
Result Bhagyaodya[Lucky period, Rise of luck] will be from 32nd Year.
http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... =4&t=25761Re: Dev Yoga
Postby anuradha » 17 Mar 2014, 07:07
Amitabh Bachchan 11th October 1942, 16-00, Allahabad. DEV Yoga is fully applicable. The first big success through'' Zanjeer'' released on 11th May 1973
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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That is very interesting. It opens a whole new area for research.
In this connection the horoscope of Henry Ford founder of the Ford Motor Company (30th July 1863) (42N18 83W13) was rectified by Dr. B.V. Raman to 2 pm giving the Lagna as Scorpio with the first navamsa of Scorpio being Cancer Navamsa Lagna. ( The horoscope is given in B. V. Raman's 'Notable Horoscopes' ).
The time given by Astro Data Bank ( and Astro Sage) as 7.00 am appears to be wrong. They have given a B Rating.
They ( Astro Databank) have also given a rectified version by Issac Starkman (who specializes in rectification) who gives the rectified time as 1.55.46 pm which is also more or less the first Navamsa of Scorpio with Cancer Lagna in Navamsa. (here the difference is only 1 minute).
He was born in Shravan Nakshatra.
His Saturn Dasa started in roughly in Feb 1908. He was 45 years old.
His success coincided with this period when he introduced the famous 'Model 'T' in October 1908.
In 1910 ( after 2 years) the company moved to a new plant in Michigan where new methods of mass production were introduced. By 1918 half the cars in America were Model T's. The Ford 'Model T' was the most iconic car in American history. In 1908 the cost of the car was $ 825/- and by 1920 due to mass production the price had fallen to $ 570/- .
B.V. Raman states in his 'Notable Horoscopes'
He achieved his breakthrough in Saturn Dasa at the age of 45/47.
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That is very interesting. It opens a whole new area for research.
In this connection the horoscope of Henry Ford founder of the Ford Motor Company (30th July 1863) (42N18 83W13) was rectified by Dr. B.V. Raman to 2 pm giving the Lagna as Scorpio with the first navamsa of Scorpio being Cancer Navamsa Lagna. ( The horoscope is given in B. V. Raman's 'Notable Horoscopes' ).
The time given by Astro Data Bank ( and Astro Sage) as 7.00 am appears to be wrong. They have given a B Rating.
They ( Astro Databank) have also given a rectified version by Issac Starkman (who specializes in rectification) who gives the rectified time as 1.55.46 pm which is also more or less the first Navamsa of Scorpio with Cancer Lagna in Navamsa. (here the difference is only 1 minute).
He was born in Shravan Nakshatra.
His Saturn Dasa started in roughly in Feb 1908. He was 45 years old.
His success coincided with this period when he introduced the famous 'Model 'T' in October 1908.
In 1910 ( after 2 years) the company moved to a new plant in Michigan where new methods of mass production were introduced. By 1918 half the cars in America were Model T's. The Ford 'Model T' was the most iconic car in American history. In 1908 the cost of the car was $ 825/- and by 1920 due to mass production the price had fallen to $ 570/- .
B.V. Raman states in his 'Notable Horoscopes'
. Saturn owning the 4th is in the 11th with Venus in neechabhanga. This is highly significant inasmuch as it indicates the degree of position, wealth and influence which Ford attained especially during the Dasa of Saturn'
He achieved his breakthrough in Saturn Dasa at the age of 45/47.
Best regards
I hope now you got the clue why he got the initial success in Saturn-Saturn[ Lagna Lord and Dreshkkone lord] Venus [ the Navmansha Lagna lord, and the 9H of Rashi chart]
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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The Navamsa Lagna lord of Henry Ford is Moon.
I referring the mega star Amitabh BachchanRe: SATURN MD SATURN AD - A RISE OR FALL
Postby anuradha » 22 Feb 2016, 21:49
I hope now you got the clue why he got the initial success in Saturn-Saturn[ Lagna Lord and Dreshkkone lord] Venus [ the Navmansha Lagna lord, and the 9H of Rashi chart]
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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Your theory should be applicable to all charts. When Henry Ford was 32 he was a poor man.
Astrodatabank has not given' A' rating, so the birth details are doubtful and this 'Yoga' is not applicable.
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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The time is rectified by BV Raman and Issac Starkman.
Ok if you believe that then see .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_FordIn 1891, Ford became an engineer with the Edison Illuminating Company. After his promotion to Chief Engineer in 1893, he had enough time and money to devote attention to his personal experiments on gasoline engines. These experiments culminated in 1896 with the completion of a self-propelled vehicle which he named the Ford Quadricycle. He test-drove it on June 4. After various test drives, Ford brainstormed ways to improve the Quadricycle.[11]
Also in 1896, Ford attended a meeting of Edison executives, where he was introduced to Thomas Edison. Edison approved of Ford's automobile experimentation
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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Haresh Kumar
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The Ford Motor Company was incorporated on 16th June 1903 when he was 40 years. The breakthrough came in 1908 (45 years) when he introduced the Model T in 1908. That was his breakthrough period (his Zanjeer/Sholay period) when he was 45 years old after the start of his Saturn Dasa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History ... or_Company
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He was the chief engineer and got initial success after the age of 32 as per the reference given above fully justifying the Yoga. If you do not want to see that , its perfectly o.k.
o.k.A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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There is a huge difference between a chief engineer and an automobile tycoon with a lions share of the market.
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If you use that yardstick Amitabh's rise started in 1969 when he was 27 years. Or it you want to stretch it , it started when he was acting in plays in school.
