Loosing faith

[anxious2711]

Ever since I started learning Vedic Astrology, I have tried and applied it in every area of my life and always had a strong belief in it.

After a stressful Venus/Saturn dasha, I am currently going through my Venus/Mercury dasha which I believed would bring success for me (being a Makara lagna, and having both Venus Mercury in 11th). This was further confirmed by 3 professional astrologers whom I consulted, but things are really not looking hopeful and I am starting to loose faith in Astrology...

[SoulLight]

Hi Anxious,

Although both Venus and Mercury are good planets for Cap Lagna, 11th house becomes a Badhaka House for Cap Lagna. Please check the placement of Badhakesh and any afflictions to Badhakesha and Venus and Mercury. You may further check your Chara Dashas.
Regards,
SL

[anxious2711]

Dear SoulLight,

It is always easy to look for excuse why certain thing did or didn't happen.

3 professional astrologer looked at my chart and predicted the period to be good. One of the astrologers used KP and came to the same conclusion.

Badhakesh is in 12th, which is a good placement for Badhakesh, but not for L11.

Venus and Mercury are with L8 and L3/L12, but the rest of the Venus dasha has been great, so had Mercury MD.

[Pem]

Hello anxious
It will be helpful if you would give your birth details so that a member can
see and explain what the planets are doing in this planetary period.
Also mention the area you are questioning about.
Regards

[anxious2711]

Hi Pem,

Here are my details:

Date of Birth: 27 November 1982
Time of Birth: 10:50am
Time difference: GMT+3
Place of Birth: 18.55 South 47.31 East (Antananarivo, Madagascar)

Regards,

[Pem]

Hi Pem,

Here are my details:

Date of Birth: 27 November 1982
Time of Birth: 10:50am
Time difference: GMT+3
Place of Birth: 18.55 South 47.31 East (Antananarivo, Madagascar)

Regards,

Don t lose faith Anxious; try and understand what the planets are doing according to
your lagna Capricorn : proper delineation technique for your idealistic mind should be thorough.
Mercury is a benefic for this chart;
Venus is a functional malefic for this chart;
Mercury is conjunct Venus very closely and so is swayed by functional malefic Venus' influence;
Further, at present time, natural malefic Saturn is also transiting closely - and so its effects.
Hope this helps you
Regards

[anxious2711]

Hi Pem,

Thanks for trying.

But Venus is a functional benefic for Capricorn lagna (Yoga Karaka). It is tainted by the close conjouction with Sun and Jupiter (functional malefics).

Nonetheless, my Venus Dasha has been overall amazing. I had high hopes for the Venus/Mercury dasha, in terms of career (DKY), after a difficult but overall positive Venus/Saturn, but things are just not working out...

I know dashas give you an opportunity, and the rest is up to the individual. Believe me, I am not sitting idle, I am trying, but it is just not happening...

Anyways, thanks for trying.

[tylorechandra]

1. Dasa lord Venus is in the nakshatra of Mercury and antara lord Mercury is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Mercury is combust. Since the 9th house (12th to the 10th) belongs to Mercury, change in job may be involved.
2. In dasamsa, Mercury is the Lagna lord. Both Venus and Mercury are in the 7th house which may indicate, among other things, short duration travels. Also Venus is the lord of the 12th and again, change may be indicated. Expect the same after Jupiter shifts to Kanya in July this year.
3. Bhava Madhya of the 10th bhava belongs to Jupiter who is largely inactive during the current period.
4. Mars is active in Venus dasa and he is in the 12th. Rahu is active in Mercury’s antara but he is in mrityu bhaga. Moon is also active but has no planet on either side. Though the Kemdruma yoga is weakened by the presence of planets in Kendra from both Lagna and Moon, aspect by Mars doesn’t help. It may increase your irritation levels and, being in the 6th from the 10th may add to your worries.
5. Though you are correct in saying that both Venus and Mercury are in the 11th, it is also a fact that the 11th lord is in the 12th, both Venus and Mercury are low in strength, close to the Sun (though this is not a limiting factor) and in papakartari yoga. Presence of Mandi in the 11th is also detrimental. Good effects of their house ownership and self efforts expressed through Saturn which is activated by Venus are in piecemeal.

TKC

[Pem]

Hello anxious
It is obvious of the influence of the functional malefics which causes the fluctuations.
Another important factor is that the 5H Taurus, a mooltrikona, is not a dynamic house
for a Capricorn lagna.
Regards

[Pem]

Hello anxious
It is recommended to do worship and mantras to Lord Vishnu and Ma Lakshmi during
this Venus/Mercury period;
also the other planets Sun and Jupiter - Lord Shiva and Lord Brihaspathi.
Venus is still a natural benefic and so has more good than negative to give you if it can help; and
hence your amazing results.
Good luck.

[rita]

Hi anxious, pem, tylore,

Using JHora, I am getting Aquarius Lagna for those birth details. It is showing Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Sun in 10th house.

Is anyone else using JHora getting the same result?

[Pem]

Hi anxious, pem, tylore,

Using JHora, I am getting Aquarius Lagna for those birth details. It is showing Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Sun in 10th house.

Is anyone else using JHora getting the same result?

Hello rita
It seems 7 persons : 3 professional astrologers; and 3 members, have all got the same casting with
capricorn lagna.
Pls check very carefully again and retry.
regards

[Lex]

,

It is always easy to look for excuse why certain thing did or didn't happen.

3 professional astrologer looked at my chart and predicted the period to be good. One of the astrologers used KP and came to the same conclusion.

Badhakesh is in 12th, which is a good placement for Badhakesh, but not for L11.

Venus and Mercury are with L8 and L3/L12, but the rest of the Venus dasha has been great, so had Mercury MD.

That astrologer who used K.P. system, ignored certain Principles of K.P.

Forget badhaka etc, you are not getting associated in any tiffy, from your writings I understand Career related problem.

Never fall into Honey trap of someone suggesting reciting mantras etc, situation will be good etc. This is a Farce, unless person really understands Indian Sages original Sanskrit written scripts and practices it. If mantras etc available, people will do crime and go to astrologers and get remedies from them, will that works. Whatever crime done, Punishment has to be undergone, same is Karma theory. In short, if Map of your chart saying so, whatever destined to happen and will happen surely.

Lets come back to your chart, I am analyzing through K.P.System

You are a Makara lagna born and in your chart, Budha Shukra are in rapt conjunction in 10th bhava ( Predictions are to be made from bhava and not from Rasi), they are in rapt conjunction, therefore joint results
In your chart, Shukra is not 5th cusp lord, but it is only sign lord for Rishabham, and Shukra is 10th cusp lord and in 10th
Budha is your 5th and 9th cusp lord in 10th

Now Ravi, 8th cusp lord in rapt conjunction with Budha, Ravi also in 10th... so joint results whenever Budha dasa or Budha bhukti or Budha antara or Ravi dasa or Ravi Bhukti or Ravi antara , or Shukra dasa Shukra bhukti Shukra antara ( when Shukra and Budha operates and Budha ( both Shukra and Ravi) or any week days of Wednesdays, Fridays or even Sundays

bhava connections of above...5 8 9 10
your 11th cusp lord in 10th, Guru is your 11th cusp lord, Kuja is not your 11th cusp lord, Kuja is only Vrichika sign lord per se

10th cusp lord dasa is on, Shukra and Shukra in 10th and Shukra in Jyesta nk
So your career will have problems in Shukra dasa Budha bhukti and even Ravi bhukti and to some extent Rahu bhukti too

[Pem]

In the bhava chart - the positions of Venus and Mercury + Ketu are in the 11H;
And, Sun and Jupiter in the 10H.
I wonder why this difference ?
Can someone also pls check and confirm.

[Pem]

Karma is divided in to :
Drudha , Adrudha and drudhadrudha;
meaning - mortal or unforgivable sin; venial or forgivable sin and the sin in between the two.
At a mundane level the semi and demi gods have the powers to handle same and reward materialistic
wants and needs;
At a spiritual level, the supreme is the final authority.
So accordinlgy, we can approach for pardon by realising and contriting for our mistakes, sins, wrongdoings
with genuine intentions and suffering can be reduced through our learning in this journey. This is the
debit/creedit system of karma. If the sin is mortal or unforgivable, then it must be paid for in this life or
in future lives - you cannot escape it. So there is a route for reducing past sins of a lesser extent and being credited.

It can also be thought by some that though devotees doing poojas and carrying savouries, sweets and garlands
and singing songs of praise with reverence , their sins will not be mitigated and given heavenly
credit to their account.

[Pem]

When I give guidance and advice on the use of mantras, I always use specific, simple
and effective methods - which I have tried on myself and have given results over many years.
In other words - I practice what I preach.
I have given some classic mantras - which are easy to use in sanskrit, with pronunciation.
I have also given the translations in english.
You can use any language but the divine understands your intentions, and will grant
blessings accordingly when you deserve it.

[Lex]

Hi anxious...

Our, India's Sages have foretold, if Lagna-adipathi has connections with 6th or 8th and 12th, whatever money is there, the fruits of enjoying will be missing.

As I said earlier too, astrologer who is well versed with mathematical astrological calculations, will understand Rasi, bhava, Sripathi system, a typical non-Sripathi system( both nirayana rasi and bhava) and its longitudinal depositions as well as Grahas depositions, Anyone asking, where Grahas are placed and thereby practicing astrology again a Farce.

A typical sripathi system approach, your chart is producing Dharma-Karma adipathi yoga, incidentally you are running Dharma -Karma yoga forming planets dasha is operating. But should produce results of Yoga.
You are saying in these Dharma Karma adipathi yoga period, you are facing the issues, since you have learnt Traditional and Sripathi system, yoga is not that Pronounced effectively

Why?
association of 8th and 12th lords with 9th and 10th lord, and Budha don't forget it is also 6th lord.

Now As I said earlier, K.P.System in my previous post... same reasons, confirmed through now Sripathi system

What our Sages have foretold,
Quote " Purva-Janmamakrudum papam vyadirupine padathe.." unquote
Means
Purva Janma..Past life
Makrudum.. related to mind on account of Karmas
Papam.... Dosha
Vyadi... Disease or hospital or unhappy etc
Padathe.... will happen or destined to take place.

Our Sages have foretold these. It is like this, for a disease not getting cured, one visits various doctors consults takes remedies or medicines but still disease will not be remissioned or cured, it is because of set of happened events in Purva-Janma... that has to be discharged with interests at right time at the right place.

Therefore, through K.P.System, unless 5th house significators and 11th house significators ( who do not have any relationship with 6th, 10th, 8th and 12th bhavas) operates, remedies either Dhanwantri ( medicine) or mantras etc will not produce any desired effects

Your lagna and 12th cusps falls in Makara itself, therefore Shani becomes lagnalord and as well as 12th lord..... I do not want to say more, anyone understand astromical calculations will know where Ketu etc will fall

[Pem]

Hello anxious
My apologies for this slight diversion to your thread.
My assessment of your chart and question was made using the chart lagna as:
Capricorn - 29'46" in the star of Dhanista.
I also confirm that the present planetary period is Venus/Mercury and both
these planets are placed in the 11H in both Rasi and Bhava charts. Its depositor,
also a malefic lord is placed in 12H in both Rasi and Bhava charts.
Regards

[anxious2711]

Hi,

Thanks to all for the replies.

The professionals who read my chart said overall, the period will be good but with a lot of ups and downs. They all said I need to be careful with money.

I have not had any financial success in this period, but no losses either. It has just been a struggle overall, a lot of expenses, and close to zero income.

As far as the DKY, I have seen its effect. As we all know, DKY does not mean financial success. I have had a lot of recognition for my work, i.e. nominated for competitions, positive press, industry recognition, etc...

But, in order to carry on doing what I am doing, I need some positive signs that my effort will come to fruition, otherwise, I just feel like giving up, as it has been over 6 months.

@Pem, to answer your question, for the Bhava chart it really depends if you are taking Lagna degree as the middle of the first house. I use that method but some softwares use that as the start of the house, meaning all the 11th house planets are in the 10th bhava in bhava chalit.

I am not too familiar with KP astrology (I have a basic understanding), but what surprised me is that both analysis came to the same conclusions, struggles, ups and down, need to be careful with money, but overall positive.

Thanks to all.

[Pem]

Hello anxious
In my work and experience I keep things straightforward and simple.
They work well for me without too many constructions.
I take the rising degree as the most effective point.

An example of the chart of Dhirubhai Ambani (my topic in Yogas)
is useful to explain : The rising degree is 1.27 Sagittarius, but this is at
the entry point of the sign and has to be accounted for differently.
The lord of this sign - Jupiter is well placed in the 10H at 0.8 degrees in the
star of Sun. So its aspects on the kendras, 5th, 7th and 9th aspects had a
significant effect on his life, being lagna lord and a first class benefic, with the
absence of negative influences. So Jupiter is well positioned in his chart.
So he was born at an auspicious moment under the heavens, at this rising time,
to produce an eminent man like him. The MEP for Jupiter also was right to produce.
There were other accompanying factors too.
Regards

[neelkumar]

frankly i should be the first person to lose faith in vedic astrology.
no one here has been able to correctly predict so far asto when i would get a job! same goes with some astrologers in calcutta and from south india. all doing ringa - ringa - roses, pocketfull of funny analyses.
so the title of 'loser' should rightfuly be conferred to me!
thank you all!!