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SuryaLagna
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Dear Dev Sir,
How is this different from the moon ketu conjunction which also gives rise to a feeling of isolation.
Regards
SL
How is this different from the moon ketu conjunction which also gives rise to a feeling of isolation.
Regards
SL
'Successful people dont have friends, they only have competitors and enemies'
Dear Suryalagna:
Firstly rahu, ketu and sun are not considered while dealing with kemadruma yoga, ie when they are conjunct or are present on either side of moon, the KD still exists provided no graha is in kendra and no aspects on moon.
Apart from this with ketu moon conjunction, you know rahu and ketu being strong enemies of sun and moon and ketu by itself is philosophical and gives vairagya feeling during its dasa and bukti, now when conjunct with moon which is manokarak dealing with mind, it is going to make it all the more problematic, more vairagya, isolation etc
Firstly rahu, ketu and sun are not considered while dealing with kemadruma yoga, ie when they are conjunct or are present on either side of moon, the KD still exists provided no graha is in kendra and no aspects on moon.
Apart from this with ketu moon conjunction, you know rahu and ketu being strong enemies of sun and moon and ketu by itself is philosophical and gives vairagya feeling during its dasa and bukti, now when conjunct with moon which is manokarak dealing with mind, it is going to make it all the more problematic, more vairagya, isolation etc
Pearl pearl,
In the first chart, ju and mars are aspecting moon and also rahu if u take 9th aspect. So there is no KD.
Also in all the other charts that u sent, aspects of planets are there which cancels KD. In Dravids horo, moon is in kendra from lagna.
In the first chart, ju and mars are aspecting moon and also rahu if u take 9th aspect. So there is no KD.
Also in all the other charts that u sent, aspects of planets are there which cancels KD. In Dravids horo, moon is in kendra from lagna.
The first one has dharma karmadipati yoga. I dont think it gets cancelled due to moon.
Also 9th and 10th are not similar in the other cases. In one moon itself is in 10th, in another in 7th and so on.
For education jupiter and mercury are seen depending on initial or higher education and then the 4th house.
So based on that affliction and weakness of the related planets could cause problems in education. What do you think are common in the 9th and 10th houses of these horoscopes?
Also 9th and 10th are not similar in the other cases. In one moon itself is in 10th, in another in 7th and so on.
For education jupiter and mercury are seen depending on initial or higher education and then the 4th house.
So based on that affliction and weakness of the related planets could cause problems in education. What do you think are common in the 9th and 10th houses of these horoscopes?
Helius:
OK you saw it that way ie 9th house represents also higher education, so in that way if it is affected, they were all just drop outs. May be that particular aspect, but luck favoured them to a great extent and so 9th house is strong, one aspect of it is gone, that is all.
Also I dont think due to combustion neecha bhanga raja yoga is gone, it may reduce the effect that is all. Also combustion does not affect every aspect which the planet(which has been combust) represents.
So combustion is surely there, neecha bhanga is also surely there, but they are two separate things and due to combustion, raja yoga aspects may be diminished depending on the extent of combustion. I dont know how many degrees apart they are?
OK you saw it that way ie 9th house represents also higher education, so in that way if it is affected, they were all just drop outs. May be that particular aspect, but luck favoured them to a great extent and so 9th house is strong, one aspect of it is gone, that is all.
Also I dont think due to combustion neecha bhanga raja yoga is gone, it may reduce the effect that is all. Also combustion does not affect every aspect which the planet(which has been combust) represents.
So combustion is surely there, neecha bhanga is also surely there, but they are two separate things and due to combustion, raja yoga aspects may be diminished depending on the extent of combustion. I dont know how many degrees apart they are?
Pearl
Yes neecha bhanga would also be there. They venus and sun are 3 degrees apart. In fact some believe venus and mercury do not get combust as they are always close. Anyway you can see even with combust venus to the extent of 1 degree, people get married and get kids. Only matching becomes important there. So raja yoga IMO will still be there though with reduced
intensity. It would not cancel or turn negative due to combustion.
Yes neecha bhanga would also be there. They venus and sun are 3 degrees apart. In fact some believe venus and mercury do not get combust as they are always close. Anyway you can see even with combust venus to the extent of 1 degree, people get married and get kids. Only matching becomes important there. So raja yoga IMO will still be there though with reduced
intensity. It would not cancel or turn negative due to combustion.
Pearl
Combustion is a permanent affair, neecha bhanga raja yoga effect will be felt during dasa of the planet which causes neecha bhanga or when this is impossible, during its bhukti. It is usually during a particular period that the raja yoga fructifies.
Combustion is a permanent affair, neecha bhanga raja yoga effect will be felt during dasa of the planet which causes neecha bhanga or when this is impossible, during its bhukti. It is usually during a particular period that the raja yoga fructifies.
I have 2 horoscopes with kendruma yoga
1. 2nd August 1979 - Pune 22.10 hrs , moon alone debilitated in 9th, aspected by uccha jupiter. Shani is in kendra to moon (10th to moon)
2. 29th Oct 1982 - Pune 07.00 AM , moon alone in 5th with no planet in kendra
Could you please advice the effects. Right now both persons are leading normal lives. in the first case, the mother of the person is facing mental agonies.
regards
amit
1. 2nd August 1979 - Pune 22.10 hrs , moon alone debilitated in 9th, aspected by uccha jupiter. Shani is in kendra to moon (10th to moon)
2. 29th Oct 1982 - Pune 07.00 AM , moon alone in 5th with no planet in kendra
Could you please advice the effects. Right now both persons are leading normal lives. in the first case, the mother of the person is facing mental agonies.
regards
amit
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tanmish
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Neither of these horoscopes have true Kemadruma Dosh. In the 1st, taking Sun ASC, Mars is in Kendra and taking Moon ASC, Saturn is in Kendra. In the 2nd, Sun ASC shows Su, Ju, Ve, Sa in Lagna whereas Moon ASC has none.
JHORA is in fact showing Kalpadruma yoga for both these charts. I think it is a fallacy to just plainly assume that KD is formed whenever 2 and 12 from Moon are empty. This happens a lot, and there's plenty of mitigating factors. As seen for these 2 charts, presence of ANY planet in a kendra from Sun or Moon nullifies the KD.
TM
Neither of these horoscopes have true Kemadruma Dosh. In the 1st, taking Sun ASC, Mars is in Kendra and taking Moon ASC, Saturn is in Kendra. In the 2nd, Sun ASC shows Su, Ju, Ve, Sa in Lagna whereas Moon ASC has none.
JHORA is in fact showing Kalpadruma yoga for both these charts. I think it is a fallacy to just plainly assume that KD is formed whenever 2 and 12 from Moon are empty. This happens a lot, and there's plenty of mitigating factors. As seen for these 2 charts, presence of ANY planet in a kendra from Sun or Moon nullifies the KD.
TM
When moon herself is in kendra from lagna, the effect is reduced as well.
Matrukarak being debilitated causes some trouble to mother as such and then the horoscope needs to be seen further to predict what that would be.
In the second one, IMO, the person would be fickle minded without being able to take bold and emphatic decisions in anything.
Matrukarak being debilitated causes some trouble to mother as such and then the horoscope needs to be seen further to predict what that would be.
In the second one, IMO, the person would be fickle minded without being able to take bold and emphatic decisions in anything.
The second horoscope is very interesting because, shani is uccha and vargottama , and venus is multrikona nd in kendra, so it completely does neecha bhanga for sun. (similar horoscope of indra nooyi)
4 planets in lagna, well placed moon (other than KD). no combustion except venus.
Jupiter being maleafic for libra in lagna, but jupiter also achieves digbala in lagna right?
Navamsa chart also decent, both buddha and shani are uccha vargottama.
Of course the person is very talented, but after looking at his horoscope i thought he should have reached a much higher station in life.
This person is a little lazy, generally unmindlful of timings, and does not take much responsibility.
Indeed he talks often contradicting himself, but i thought that is due to shani in lagna, and that really does not work to his disadvantage.
But overall greatly underutilising himself.
regards
Amit
4 planets in lagna, well placed moon (other than KD). no combustion except venus.
Jupiter being maleafic for libra in lagna, but jupiter also achieves digbala in lagna right?
Navamsa chart also decent, both buddha and shani are uccha vargottama.
Of course the person is very talented, but after looking at his horoscope i thought he should have reached a much higher station in life.
This person is a little lazy, generally unmindlful of timings, and does not take much responsibility.
Indeed he talks often contradicting himself, but i thought that is due to shani in lagna, and that really does not work to his disadvantage.
But overall greatly underutilising himself.
regards
Amit
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ChandraLagna
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There's a search Option on the forum, its use is highly recommended !
Look at the excellent posts by a member VioletTwilight on this topic. No text can beat someone speaking from personal experience, especially if the articulation is accurate.
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... lit=kem%2A
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 2A#p154918
Look at the excellent posts by a member VioletTwilight on this topic. No text can beat someone speaking from personal experience, especially if the articulation is accurate.
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... lit=kem%2A
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 2A#p154918
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With Regards,
ChandraLagna
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ChandraLagna
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VioletTwilight
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Dear jelly29,jelly29 wrote:Interesting 11th July 1978 guwahati Assam male 10:7 pm
Does this chart shows kd yoga ?
There is no kd yoga in this chart if it is Pisces lagna with ketu in lagna. There are 3 planets in 12th to Moon and so it does not meet the basic definition for kemadruma yoga. There is Ketu alone in lagna and bhavottama, which can show more Ketu tendencies for personal detachment and difficulty in social niceties.
Best regards,
Violet
Yes you are right ..probably its more of ketu getting dominant on him..he's very expressive and attached when it comes to things related to me ..so it is a case of some other factors in play when he's not expressive wrt others and you hve rightly pointed out ..thanks 
