Fifth vs. Eighth House for inheritances and investments

[elipsis]

You shouldn't spend your abilities in a reckless fashion whether its your 5th or 9th house. An actor is more likely to produce another actor because he or she will pass on their talents and blessings to the offspring. So the 5th house deals with the genetics and your DNA signature which is very important if you want to pass on your traits. Whatever you do will be transferred in one form or another...if you drink, smoke and make merry then you are less likely to produce talented children. Same with gambling, if you leave something to chance then you are more likely to lose money and therefore will lose trust in your mental faculty, this trait will pass on to your child as well. Same with automation, people are too dependent on the machines which takes care of most of your activities, so there is little mental stress to even to do the simplest of things...people use calculator to add two digits nowadays. Anyway, I am sure future scientific research will reveal more facts about how genetics and behavior affects your entire lineage...so until that time I recommend that you trust astrology and spiritual science.

[tandav]

Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure not to spend abilities recklessly.

[rudra28]

Hi elipsis:

you said, if we use the fifth house , the power on it will be reduced,

"""As for the 5th house, its primary purpose is progeny because its the store house of your creative talents which you may want to pass it on at some point- that's what it is meant for. Investments and gambling comes later on but unlike other houses the 5th house runs out of power because its the trikona, which means anything you do with regard to 5th house will definitely run out of power after sometime...so choose wisely."""""

in my case - i use the energy of it, like for : Sketching, lyrics writing, Photography.

I'm not being in debate with you but as a curiosity i wish to ask a thing to you,

Stock market & Investments is really not a gambling,
it's something where you have to do some background work & then you need to do the proper investment in the way one feel.


Am i right on my opinion of this --- please let me know.

[elipsis]

Learning something is not using your 5th house energy. When you accumulate talents or knowledge you are strengthening it. When you sing you are spending away your talents but when you learn to sing you are accumulating - either way you'd lose your ability to learn and sing as you get older. Similarly, when you convert your talents into profits or leave it to chance you are transmuting the energies of the 5th house into assets or losses. This is why Mercury and Saturn are two barren planets in the zodiac because they lack the ability to procreate but their skills are directed towards transmuting other houses into their own through trade, gambling or clever methods. So trading or working or whatever else you do...when you spend your skills you are doing away with all the karmic credits you have obtained. This is why in Indian culture there is an emphasis on timing as to how to do it, when to do it and who should do it. This is also why Indian astrology gave importance to Muhurtha system - this was mainly to shield people from doing things that aren't productive. You also have classic examples of the decline of monarchy around the world...why did it decline? Because the royals were misusing their position to spend away public wealth, this resulted in them producing worthless kings which eventually led to the decline of their empires. Now the royal families around the world have become a laughing stock fit for fancy dress public shows once in year. Same happens to every individual on a smaller scale if he or she is not careful in what they choose.

Regards

[ashtalakshmi]

Thank you Ellipsis ji.Your answers are extremely insightful and one can keep reading what you write throughout the day.
I am amazed to read the article which had the similar content that you were explaining all along.
Thank you tandev for the link.
Just a simple last question, what if a man/woman already has children and become very spiritual at some stage? Just praying God for spiritual protection , does this count as losing 5th house power?

[elipsis]

Once the fundamentals of the chart is satisfied you could use the 5th house energy to satisfy your wishes - this can be gotten through chanting mantras, praying to God and regular spiritual practice. Recitation of beeja mantras can strengthen your 5th house depending upon your ishta deva and planetary combinations.

[ashtalakshmi]

Once the fundamentals of the chart is satisfied you could use the 5th house energy to satisfy your wishes - this can be gotten through chanting mantras, praying to God and regular spiritual practice. Recitation of beeja mantras can strengthen your 5th house depending upon your ishta deva and planetary combinations.

Thank you Elipsis ji.

[elipsis]

Hi Elipsis
Your said "I don't see any major problems with regard to 8th house, although inheritance is very little or nil. Did your father run any kind of business? There are minor health issues related to nutrient deficiency in your chart which may create health issues like hypertension, astigmatism, weak heart (Sa sq Su), diabetes (Mo sq Su) and weaker bones (Su in Rohini)"

I presume this answer was for me?
If so yes I do suffer from hypertension - astigmatism - what is this?
Weak heart - have not been diagnosed with it so far - would that be a case of cholesterol or irregular heart beat or other?
Diabetes - again have not been diagnosed with same - so far blood sugar levels were OK last year
Bones - have broken one leg - left - arm - again left - do you mean osteoporosis?
Next question - when are these going to manifest - can you tell?
Yes my dad did TRY to run a business but he was too kind hearted so he failed along with the fact his temper let him down.
My grandad on the other hand (maternal) was successful for how long - I do not know - my mum - who would have been excellent at it if my father had let her - also worked with her father.

Ann

Yes, I was referring to your chart (sorry didn't quote your post). Astigmatism is a disease related to vision or distortion of vision due to change in the ocular angle. I did say all these health issues were minor - means it could lead to nothing significant, all you have to do is watch your nutrition. As for the weak bones or osteoporosis - this I see it clearly in people with strong connection to Sun-Moon or Sun-Rahu, this is just a deficiency caused due to low levels of vit d, if you maintain adequate levels of vitamin d, magnesium, calcium and selenium most of the disease precursors like hypertension, weaker bones etc will disappear but do consult an expert in this matter.

regards.

[elipsis]

Could be the right eye, can't be sure.

[tanmish]

Ellipsis-jee -

You're very right about the Vitamin B, C, D and K deficiencies causing various bone density, eye, skin and overall health issues, more so in older-age persons. Ironically, a good dose of Sun exposure to the skin would fix some of these but in countries like the US that is an absolute no-no.

If you spend ANY amount of time in the sun, esp. summer, without sun-screen, you risk severe sun-burn, skin damage and the added risk of skin cancer later on. The US is the only country in the world with a GIANT ozone hole in its upper atmosphere, causing harmful UVA and UVB rays to reach us without anything to block them. Its the result of 200+ years of relentless industrial expansion and the conspicuous consumption that goes with it....

TM

[elipsis]

So its the left eye, I can't be right on everything otherwise I'd be famous by now but I was right on the inheritance bit ...anyway, I didn't check the inheritance from the husband angle. I saw everything from the angle of the Sun but I don't fancy seeing it from the martian angle but I am sure you can predict that bit on your own.

Regards

[rathodp]

What does 4th lord sun and 5th lord mercury in the 8th and the 8th lord jupiter in the 4th mean.

[Hanish]

Dear Elipsis,

Very well explained. May I please ask if this chart promise comfortable and wealthy life.? Any inheritance.?

[elipsis]

Your chart shows comfortable life with enough wealth but watch out for health issues - blood pressure, headache etc after 55. Don't see much inheritance but if your family owns farm lands then don't sell them.

Regards

[elipsis]

What does 4th lord sun and 5th lord mercury in the 8th and the 8th lord jupiter in the 4th mean.

I can't check like that.

[Hanish]

[quote="elipsis"]Your chart shows comfortable life with enough wealth but watch out for health issues - blood pressure, headache etc after 55. Don't see much inheritance but if your family owns farm lands then don't sell them.

Regards[/quote]

Dear Elipsis,

Thanks for the reply. When you mention comfortable life with enough wealth. Is there any time period for this, as person been suffering financialy from long time and dont really see anything happening in this front.

Regards
Hanish

[elipsis]

Dear elipsis, thanks for the interesting discussion and points.

I dont have a planet both on the 5th and 8th houses and the 5th lord who is debilitated also gets Neecha Bhanga (also 10th lord) is with Mer in 9th house (Mer is the 6th and 9th lord who is exalted and retro) and with Sun the 8th house lord.

How will this effect the 5th house?

Now the 8th lord Sun [14* Virgo - Hasta] is hemmed between 6th and 10th lord venus [ 5* Virgo - Uttaraphal] + 6th and 9th lord Mer who is both exalted and retro [16* Virgo - Hasta] + sat 29* [Virgo - Chitra].

What effect does this have on the 8th house and the 8th lord?

Overall all these happens in the 9th house that also has Sat the 1st and 2nd lord [29* Virgo - Chitra].

I shall get the Mer Dasha with Ven AD by Sep 2016. Frm Sep 2015 its Dasha with Ket AD.

[DOB: [SNIP], 14:15 IST, Chennai. Male]

Thanks and regards,
Helius

Dasa of Venus and Mercury won't be benefic since Venus isn't very strong but periods of Sun will be good. So when it comes to 8th house effects, Sun is well placed with Jupiter in Libra, this creates a good fortunes when Jupiter transits Leo, Virgo and Libra.

Regards

[elipsis]

Dear Elipsis,

Thanks for the reply. When you mention comfortable life with enough wealth. Is there any time period for this, as person been suffering financial from long time and dont really see anything happening in this front.

Regards
Hanish

Good periods start after 2021.

[Hanish]

Dear Elipsis,

Thanks for the reply. Does this mean person wont be able to make any money until then.? Suffering on finance front will continue and there isn't any chance of getting job to earn money .?

Regards

[elipsis]

There will be setbacks until 2021 after that the journey will be smooth.

[Hanish]

Dear Elipsis,

Thanks for your time and analysis. I was really looking forward to find a career break and financial stability in coming jupiter transit in my lagna(leo) and my VenusMD starting later this year. But I guess miseries will continue untill 2021. But lets see how they roll.
Regards

[elipsis]

I am sure Jupiter creates fortunes but your expectations must be ground to reality and being careful about the 8th house is a sensible approach in my opinion.

[elipsis]

Not talking about your chart here but 8th house normally brings sinful wealth which gets transferred through generations. Like winning property through disputes brings dissatisfaction of others so they might cause problems for you in the future births or to your children. All events of dissatisfaction leaves a karmic trail which compels human souls to take birth again to resolve it but comes with no guarantee that it'll get resolved.

Regards

[Snr]

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[elipsis]

I said being careful is a sensible thing to do regardless of whether or not you face any situation similar to what I mentioned.