Fifth vs. Eighth House for inheritances and investments

[Explorer989]

Depending on who you speak to the fifth house, eighth house, or both seem to be related to investments, inheritances, or gambling.

Just wondering, what happens with regard to:

A. Inheritances and partners money

B. Investments and gambling

When

1. The Fifth house is strong, but the Eighth house is weak.

2. The Eighth house is strong, but the Fifth house is weak.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks

[elipsis]

You have to be careful with regard to 8th house matters, it represents inheritance but it also represents all that is bad. When you inherit something you also inherit a part of the karma which is not yours - so you may be getting an extra dose of misery along with the inheritance. So, it is wiser never to ask for any property share - when someone gives you something unwillingly you are done for eternity. A strong 8th house is not something you should wish for.

As for the 5th house, its primary purpose is progeny because its the store house of your creative talents which you may want to pass it on at some point- that's what it is meant for. Investments and gambling comes later on but unlike other houses the 5th house runs out of power because its the trikona, which means anything you do with regard to 5th house will definitely run out of power after sometime...so choose wisely.

You often see billionaires without children to inherit their properties, royal families without a worthy heir, rich people getting diseases with no cure....these are the outcomes of 5th and 8th houses. They have unwittingly made wrong choices which will be their demise.

Regards

[Explorer989]

"ou have to be careful with regard to 8th house matters, it represents inheritance but it also represents all that is bad. When you inherit something you also inherit a part of the karma which is not yours - so you may be getting an extra dose of misery along with the inheritance. So, it is wiser never to ask for any property share - when someone gives you something unwillingly you are done for eternity. A strong 8th house is not something you should wish for.

As for the 5th house, its primary purpose is progeny because its the store house of your creative talents which you may want to pass it on at some point- that's what it is meant for. Investments and gambling comes later on but unlike other houses the 5th house runs out of power because its the trikona, which means anything you do with regard to 5th house will definitely run out of power after sometime...so choose wisely."

What do you mean by:

1. that it is wiser to never ask for any property share since you are done for eternity?

2. What do you mean that the anything you do with regard to the 5th house will definitely run out of power after sometime?

Thanks

[lovacrs]

What I have seen from a couple of charts:

1. Speculative activity is linked to 5th.e.g., Buying shares with speculative intent. If 5th has connection with 11th and 9th/8th you will make speculative gains/losses.
2. Investment is linked to 2nd. e.g., Buying shares as investment. If 2nd has connection to 11th and 3rd you will make profits. If in addition it is also connected to 9th/8th you may make speculative gains/losses in addition.
3. 8th is associated with unearned wealth in addition to the many negative things. Legacies, Insurances, Compensations, Hidden Treasures etc. Any outcome of a deliberate action from you side will not be linked to 8th. In fact connection to 8th delays all results since 8th is also called Randhra Bhava which can mean a hole through which your effort leaks into a bottomless pit!

If this is not confusing enough, would like to tell you that there is wide divergence of views on interpretation of the term "strong 8th house"

[Explorer989]

How can the eighth house be a bottomless pit when some people with strong eighth houses have managed to marry into money?

Thanks

[elipsis]

What do you mean by:

1. that it is wiser to never ask for any property share since you are done for eternity?

2. What do you mean that the anything you do with regard to the 5th house will definitely run out of power after sometime?

Thanks

I should have thought it was crystal clear.

5th house significations will stop working after a while. And 8th house brings misfortunes along with the inheritance. To put it more bluntly the 12th from the primary house does exactly opposite.

6th house = diseases
5th house = cure
9th house = fortune
8th = misfortune (bad fortune)
1st house = life
12th house = death/losses
11th house = gains
10th house = work

Regards

[Leodeo]

Dear Elipsis Sir,

Does strong 8th house means always bad. If someone 8th lord is placed in 8th house and aspected by 2nd lord, 9th lord, lagna lord, 10th lord and 8th lord is Venus aspecting 2nd with Pluto. I know you all don't consider Pluto in Vedic Astrology. But isn't that a strong 8th house. If yes sir, than what could it lead to bad karma of person. But seriously this person has got no inheritance till date. Rather his mother died with debt and his father won't give him I guess.

So, as it's said inheritance above do you think always 8th house strong gives inheritance. Can it mean some hidden or secret way of getting out of things. Or sudden gains when least expected.

Regards

Leo

[elipsis]

Dear Leo,

If your 8th house or 8th lord is hemmed between the benefic planets then 8th lord won't cause any misfortunes, in fact it does the opposite thing when its supported by benefics (jupiter/venus/mercury). Any planet for it to work optimally requires support from other planets, so a malefic planet will need support from other malefics for it to carry out the bad stuff.

8th house also rules the hidden aspects of life, private parts of the body, secret pleasures and fantasies, hidden knowledge, science and research, discoveries and terrifying sudden things people don't expect. Its an intense house very similar to Scorpio sign.

Regards

[Leodeo]

thank you elipsis sir...

Yes, I have jupiter aspecting venus in 8th but it has aspect of rahu. I heard aspect of rahu gives extra marital affairs and wealth. but in western we don't have rahu but pluto is there which i feel like more of rahu. But things confuses me. But rahu aspect I think gives wealth but marriage life bad as they wrote.

Regards

[elipsis]

well..i can't say for sure without looking at the chart. There are many things to consider.

[vaibhavd]

Re: Fifth vs. Eighth House for inheritances and investments

[vaibhavd]

Dear sir
I am certainly going to inherit some money from selling last inherited lands in july or august. Will it happen smoothly and will I inherit some huge money!!.
18/5/1990 17:53 hubli

thank you

[elipsis]

Yes, it will go smoothly. Your chart is very good, you'll enjoy good fortune most of your life. Good period starts after 33.

regards

[rudra28]

What say for me ellipse ji.



I do work as a software developer even though I do well, I am not happy with it, what say abt trading for me, or please do suggest what feel I can enter in..

[elipsis]

You'll do ok with trading, although there are indicators of losing money due to trade (mer sq mo, 10/4)..so be careful regarding money.

Regards

[rahulguru]

Hello Ellipsis ji,
I have 7th lord venus in 8th, 8th in 12 th
8th house has very low sav points 18. What do these indicate?
Date of Birth 20 Dec 1988 Time 2.47 pm ,place Shimoga

[elipsis]

This indicates loss of property or health or mental stress (also it doesn't form any vry yoga). You should seek divine help as Mars is in Pisces.

Regards

[rudra28]

Elipsis ji- help me out, please see the link..
Seek helping for my anger...
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 16&t=30214

[elipsis]

Like Piscesangel said, practice meditation regularly - especially the deep breathing meditative technique. http://www.ishafoundation.org/Ishakriya/Learn-online

Also, buy a Conch Shell and immerse it in a bowl of water completely after reciting the Moon beeja mantra, keep changing the water every week by reciting the mantra.

Regards

[elipsis]

I don't see any major problems with regard to 8th house, although inheritance is very little or nil. Did your father run any kind of business? There are minor health issues related to nutrient deficiency in your chart which may create health issues like hypertension, astigmatism, weak heart (Sa sq Su), diabetes (Mo sq Su) and weaker bones (Su in Rohini).

[ashtalakshmi]

........but unlike other houses the 5th house runs out of power because its the trikona, which means anything you do with regard to 5th house will definitely run out of power after sometime...so choose wisely.

You often see billionaires without children to inherit their properties, royal families without a worthy heir, rich people getting diseases with no cure....these are the outcomes of 5th and 8th houses. They have unwittingly made wrong choices which will be their demise.

Regards

Elipsis ji, I have asked you twice about this earlier but never got the answer.
I really don't understand how the 5th house can run out of power after a period of time?
Do you mean everyone should marry and give birth to children before they set their goal to earn huge wealth or do you say those who already have their children can't accumulate huge wealth because they run out of 5th house power?

[elipsis]

If you don't care about marriage then you needn't do that. The primary function of the 5th house is progeny but if you use it for other things - like speculative gains, cures, spiritual help etc then obviously there will be problems with regard to progeny if at all you get married and want children. So always remember the primary function of the house and what would happen if you deviate from the fundamentals of the house, for example: 2nd house shows your immediate family but if you use it only for wealth then you'd lose family, all houses have a limited full capacity for which you must plan carefully. whatever you do the 5th house will lose its strength overtime because as people get older their ability to reproduce, cure diseases and their physical fitness will get weaker by the day. My teacher used to say that people should be careful with regard to 5th house matters because it has a very limited good karmic credits and people will inadvertently use those credits for insignificant activities and regret later. Same goes for the 9th house but it is the strongest trikona after the 1st house so it will lose its strength later in life.

[tandav]

Elipsis ji, does that mean that if progeny is desired, one should limit creativity, academics, and performing arts?

[elipsis]

From my research - gambling affects progeny at least 60% of the time, especially in women. As to matters like "creativity", "learning"- these are the traits that are passed on to your child but using creativity for unwanted things will cause harm to progeny. As you probably know the cases of autistic children are on the rise so if you study the charts of the parents then you can find what's really wrong with them.

[tandav]

Elipsis ji, I'm really glad you brought this up. I've read about this in an article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science ... rents.html

But 9th house is said to represent progeny as well in a woman's chart, so should foreign travels be limited if progeny or luck is desired?