Rahu in Taurus - Good or Bad Finally Deciphered

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Learned Members

We have gone through numerous posts on Rahu and Ketu in various signs in past posts and the conclusin is that Ketu does well in all signs (incorporating both Nadi and Parasara but if we use Parasara delineation more emphasis should be placed on how Parasara look at the nodes and vice versa). Rahu only certain signs (the same qualifications apply to Rahu as per Ketu explained just now).

Also Rahu and Ketu has an affinity with Scorpio since all are occult by nature......Rahu's occultism is for prophesying and Ketu's occultism is to find out the meaning of life. The unorthodoxy of these three also blend well together.

How about Rahu in Taurus?

The thing is Taurus is ruled by Venus and Rahu is the disciple of Venus. Taurus stands for materialism and Rahu the urge for materialism. So Rahu in Taurus gives one the ability to obtain material things easily (I have said this before but did not give the reason). Hence Parasara assigns Rahu as being exalted in Taurus.

Yet Taurus natural rulership is the 2nd house which is Jupiter's direction. Although Rahu grants the individual materialism easily when placed in Taurus, very often the means or outcome is not something that is orthodox enough to be considered easily enjoyed. Mabye some roundabout way of things need to be done in order to get the final beneficial results. Like extracting poison from the ground which can be processed to cure uncommon diseases. That is why Rahu also fits in comfortably in Scorpio besides Taurus because each sign has some attributes which Rahu has an affinity to.

Best Regards
Khoo

[elipsis]

Rahu doesn't do well in watery or fire signs, as they represent moksha and dharma. The hidden and dangerous aspect of Scorpio will almost triple with rahu transiting it...its almost like a volcano that explodes all of a sudden and engulfs cities and villages with its poisonous plumes. Also like other nodes in astrology the lunar nodes donot act unilaterally as you keep writing about it- Parasara said Rahu is exalted in Taurus only because Moon is exalted in Taurus. So the way rahu interacts is only through other planets and through corrupting their significations. Venus, Saturn and Mercury represents the material aspects of life so Rahu compels people to go after material pleasures by any means necessary but the thing is even if these planets represent the material side they are definitely not on the cheaper side of life but Rahu makes them cheap and third class by corrupting their significations in their dasa or transits. You can notice this for example when Venus and Rahu have a strong connection in the chart you'll see Venus behaving erratically in its maha dasa.

You may ask why a sign like Scorpio represents Moksha, its because it is the store house of all spiritual powers which is the lower side of spiritualism. It has the power to do extraordinary things that human beings can only dream of doing, it has all secret knowledge that everybody craves for. It is only depends on people how they use their powers...so when Einstein proposed relativity its only because of his scorpio.

Also Rahu and Ketu are demonic planets - they neither give true materialism nor liberation. I notice people keep talking about Ketu being the signifcator for liberation...the answer is NO. Only Jupiter can help you towards liberation as he rules the Pisces which is the resting place of Lord Vishnu according to Tamil manuscripts. What Ketu does when it combines with Jupiter is to push you towards a promising spiritual path and then break you in the end. Demonic planets are anti-human and loves corrupting those vulnerable among them and they do not have your best interests at heart.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Good viewpoints elipsis.

Anarudha, did you not mention to me that Ketu in the 12th is a yoga for moksha? What is your view on this about Ketu?

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Actually Ketu is Ganesha so it actually helps us to severe our attachment to material things so it is the first step towards attaining Mokdha. Ketu in the 12th gives the severance a permanent nature just before we die and that is why it is a yoga for moksha accordiing to classics. Spiritual yogas involving Sun and/or Jupiter gives the liberation and the merging with brahma (Sun) or para-brahma (Jupiter) ie. the 2 kinds of absolute.

As for Jupiter with ketu with ketu acting as the breaker for liberation, this is the first time I have heard of it. More likely this combination signify austerity in the path towards attainment of liberation.

[elipsis]

Ketu is not Ganesha, the trunk of Ganesha represents Ketu. If you rub Ganesha's trunk with your index finger you'll feel attracted towards spiritual subjects and touching ears will make you listen to classical music. Worshiping Ganesha removes Ketu like obstacles in life.

The proper way to attain liberation for ordinary people is to slowly phase out materialistic karma - like Angelina Jolie doing worldly karma and helping people out, shedding materialism increases sattvic qualities helpful to attain liberation, the more sattva you acquire the more blessings you gain from spiritual entities. The only reason famous actors got cured of their cancer is because of their Jupiterain karma...whether its dustin hoffman or angelina jolie. The other method of moksha is through practicing meditative yoga - this must also be done step by step - like starting with powers yoga such as Layayoga then move on to Brahma yoga, Raja yoga and Maha yoga which gives absolute liberation. So the Ketu's liberation is a phony way to do it, it gives you a little thrill without substance.

[rathore]

Khoo ji,

Please see a few verses:

- The native will achieve great knowledge in Agamas, will take bath in the sacred Ganges and attain the feet of Lord Shiva if Sun and Mercury are in 12th while 10th lord is in a trine along with Jupiter.

- Same effects as above will happen if the lords of 2nd, 9th and 10th join in 9th while Rahu is with Venus in the 10th.

- Same effects will happen if the 10th lord is exalted (in deep exaltation I think) while the Moon is in the 10th.

Now "attaining feet of Lord Shiva" is open to interpretion if it means liberation. What is interesting to note is that 10th house / lord is a common theme. Rahu too can assist (maybe Ketu in a Mokhsa trine has a say here too).

There is word about about Ketu in 12th giving liberation. Please list the source (which text?). From what I remember right now it makes the person secretly sinful but spend money on good things.

Rathore

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Regarding Ketu in the 12th, it is generally accepted in Nadi Astrology that Ketu in Pisces gives Moksha. No specific text that I can quote as I have not read that. I got it from Nadi Astrology.

But Anuradha mentioned this is a common Yoga ie. Ketu in the 12th. Mabye she can help.

[elipsis]

Speaking as someone with ketu in the 12th, I can tell you it just makes you attracted towards spiritualism, you'll get dreams of entities etc. It doesn't guarantee moksha and nor does it alter your material or professional life.

[curiousguy]

Even I was always confused or rather doubtful on why a malefic like ketu (which is a demon) give us moksha.

Per puranas or other hindu epics, Moksha is a state of bliss. Maybe a demon can't give us moksha (it is divine), rather give an illusion that it is taking us through spirituality and moksha ultimately. I searched for available material with me on ketu's placement in 12th house. I am yet to find out the dictum regarding moksha being conferred by Ketu in 12.

It is only through Vishnu/Siva that we might get moksha (ofcourse nobody can ascertain this for sure, as nobody experienced what it is). Generally, things outside of our experience should be kept off our radar in my humble belief. Things like life after death, was a sinner in last birth etc are good to know for curiousity's sake (but how does it help). Certainly we know what we are in this birth - good or bad - and can rectify our actions.

I tend to agree with Elipsis ji here. But I heard from many people that Ketu in 12 gives Moksha as Khoo ji had heard of.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

There is a deity associated with every planet including ketu whether trunk or whatever.

But each planet also represents an incarnation of Vishnu and worshipping him which is basically Mercury, is tantamount to worshipping all the planets.

A badly placed Mercury in the chart, is a must to worship Vishnu otherwise it leads a downward spiral to hell. The idea is to set the person onto the right spiritual path again.

Most idols of worship if set in Quicksilver (the metal of Mercury) gain immense power for worshipping the corresponding deity.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Parasara says that all exalted natural malefic planets turn benefic. In that Rahu in Taurus is very good.

But Rahu in Scorpio is something of a twister - although it gives low astral influence, Rahu works naturally in Scorpio (the South-West is Rahu's direction), and if you see the dhan yoga post it generally gives riches as well (although what was mentioned there is Rahu in the 8th but we can always take the planet in the natural sign of that bhava mentioned in the yoga as a first approximation).

Just like a dark Moon one astrologer says it is evil. But if conjuncting the Sun it means the darkness of the Moon is erased and all the negativities associated with the Moon like vacillation, flights of fancy etc. are eradicated and thus a king is borned.

A lot of subtleties are involved in Astrology.

[elipsis]

A lot of subtleties are involved in Astrology.

I know right...

Just like a dark Moon one astrologer says it is evil. But if conjuncting the Sun it means the darkness of the Moon is erased and all the negativities associated with the Moon like vacillation, flights of fancy etc. are eradicated and thus a king is borned.

If Moon conjuncts with Sun then its the new moon day (amavasya) or chathurdasi, its the worst day to be born. Nitya Yogas are calculated based on the position of Moon and Sun which will tell you how auspicious are their placement.

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 12&t=16105

btw, there is no such word as 'borned'...(unless oxford press came up with new words)

[anuradha]

If Moon conjuncts with Sun then its the new moon day (amavasya) or chathurdasi, its the worst day to be born. Nitya Yogas are calculated based on the position of Moon and Sun which will tell you how auspicious are their placement.

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btw, there is no such word as 'borned'...(unless oxford press came up with new words)
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Sun+Moon is the number one Rajyoga for Scorpio Lagna.

Sun+Moon works well in 3,6, 10 and 11H.

In the chart of Dhirubhai Ambani Moon[8L] +Sun[9L] in Saggitarius Lagna. Moon as 8L conjunct with 9H[Sun]. So Moon become very weak in Paksha balam.
Opposite to it is M.Jackson, LL[Moon] is very powerful in Paksha balam[Full Moon].

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/vedic- ... -his-chart
http://www.astrosage.com/celebrity-horo ... oscope.asp

[elipsis]

Yes, I don't think Ambani became successful because of his Sun-Moon conjunction. Venus, Mars, Jupiter were benefic for him even though venus is a functional malefic.

[anuradha]

He became very successful even though born on Amavasya because it made his 8L[Moon] very weak.

[elipsis]

hmm..why didn't he die a natural death then?

[anuradha]

A death by natural causes, as recorded by coroners and on death certificates and associated documents, is one that is primarily attributed to an illness or an internal malfunction of the body not directly influenced by external forces.

Dhirubhai Ambani was admitted to the Breach Candy Hospital in Mumbai on 24 June 2002 after he suffered a major stroke. It was his second stroke, the first one had occurred in February 1986 and had paralyzed his right hand. He was in a coma for more than a week and a number of doctors were consulted. He died on 6 July 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhirubhai_Ambani

Re: Rahu in Taurus - Good or Bad Finally Deciphered
Post by elipsis » 27 Mar 2015, 10:27

hmm..why didn't he die a natural death then?

[elipsis]

I still don't think dying early of stroke is a natural cause. What I want to point out is that if Moon-Sun wasn't malefic in Lagna then he wouldn't have died in the sub-period of Moon.

[anuradha]

Moon is the 8L[Malefic] but very weak. He died in the sub period of Mercury[7L, Marak] on 6th July2002. Any death due to illness is natural as per the definition.

[elipsis]

Moon is the 8L[Malefic] but very weak. He died in the sub period of Mercury[7L, Marak] on 6th June 2002. Any death due to illness is natural as per the definition.

6 July 2002 (aged 69)- Saturn-Mercury-Moon

[anuradha]

Re: Rahu in Taurus - Good or Bad Finally Deciphered
Postby elipsis » 27 Mar 2015, 10:54

I still don't think dying early of stroke is a natural cause. What I want to point out is that if Moon-Sun wasn't malefic in Lagna then he wouldn't have died in the sub-period of Moon.

He died in Saturn-Mercury-Moon . Mercury is the anter dasha[Sub period]} lord not the Moon. Mercury is in 12H[hospital] aspected by 12L[Mars], so he died in hospital naturally as per the definition of natural death. Moon has to discharge the duty of 8L but after the age of 69+. Saturn in 2H also become the Marak. Sun[9L, luck] is with Moon[8L] still he had the luck to become so successful

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Re: Rahu in Taurus - Good or Bad Finally Deciphered
Postby elipsis » 27 Mar 2015, 10:54

I still don't think dying early of stroke is a natural cause. What I want to point out is that if Moon-Sun wasn't malefic in Lagna then he wouldn't have died in the sub-period of Moon.
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So as per you Pranter dasha [ Moon] is more important than anter dasha[Mercury] ? If So then how he passed Saturn-Saturn-Moon[18th Jan-2000 onward]?

[elipsis]

Sub period can be anything - whether its bukti or antar. Moon has to discharge the duty of 8L but it didn't kill other famous people early because they were born in fortunate muhurtha - look at Ray Bradbury - this dude had VRY, Dustin Hoffman (got cured of cancer), Nelson Mandela, Sean Connery, Warren Buffet and Paul Newman (even though he died of cancer in his early 80s). 8L affecting lagna will inevitably bring some form of physical illness but many aristas are cancelled from the muhurtha of birth, a person born in Ayusman yoga will have some cancellation of affliction if there are any malefics affecting his lagna or lagna lord. Those who are born in Saubaghya yoga will experience some cancellation of affliction that's affecting the 9th house. Yogas formed out of Sun and Moon are entirely dependent on the muhurtha of birth because luminaries require paksha bala and not to forget the longitudinal separation of Sun-Moon through which Nitya yogas are formed will determine the auspiciousness of their dasas.

[anuradha]

If Moon conjuncts with Sun then its the new moon day (amavasya) or chathurdasi, its the worst day to be born. Nitya Yogas are calculated based on the position of Moon and Sun which will tell you how auspicious are their placement.

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Re: Rahu in Taurus - Good or Bad Finally Deciphered
Unread postby elipsis » 27 Mar 2015, 12:18

Sub period can be anything - whether its bukti or antar. Moon has to discharge the duty of 8L but it didn't kill other famous people early because they were born in fortunate muhurtha

We have to do the calculations for the age only then its relevant to talk about the pranter of 8L or 7L[Marak] or 2L[Marak], which varies from chart to chart. It has nothing to do with fortunate muhurtha. A person[ Mr Ambani] born on Amavasya had done very well.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Thanks Anarudha for detailing the circumstances when Sun+Moon is beneficial.

As far as experience and precision in knowledge is concerned, you are simply the best.