How is a D10 chart read?

[sayan.dg]

Can the learned members please tell how to use amsa rulers in d10 chart. What information can we derive if a particular planet falls in the amsa of a particular amsa ruler such as Varun, agni, kubera,yama,bramha ,nriti, ananta,isana, agni, indra.

Thanks

[rao_mocherla]

My dear mr prakrithi,
Narada samhitha is at Berlin Library...full text available Ref. no. Weber. 862 ...it is in sanskrth.
Thanks
Rao,18/12/13

[rao_mocherla]

My dear mr prakruthi,

I follow chitrapaksha ayanamsa . The same is also called as Lahari ayanamsa. Most of the B.V.Raman students also follow the same . If we observe his ayanamsa, we have to tell the consultant that our prediction are subject to six months plus and minus of prediction date.
If you go through the Raman's astrological editorials, we can notice a point that is he gives chart and final prediction, but never discuss the point in regards to how he arrived it, he never gives logical conclusion .
With blessings,
Rao, 18/12/13

[Prakruthi]

Namashkar Sir,

Thank you very much for your blessings and for sharing the information of the required material. I will check for Narada Samhitha and see where it takes me to. Also, you mentioned about LAGHU PARASHARA in sanskrit. I searched for laghu parashara in Boon library search and I could not find any with such name. I will continue to look for it and get back to you as soon as I get some information.

Cheers

[Prakruthi]

My dear mr prakruthi,

I follow chitrapaksha ayanamsa . The same is also called as Lahari ayanamsa. Most of the B.V.Raman students also follow the same . If we observe his ayanamsa, we have to tell the consultant that our prediction are subject to six months plus and minus of prediction date.
If you go through the Raman's astrological editorials, we can notice a point that is he gives chart and final prediction, but never discuss the point in regards to how he arrived it, he never gives logical conclusion .
With blessings,
Rao, 18/12/13

Thank you very much for sharing this. This ayanamsha problem is something that needs to be fixed first in Indian astrology, as most of the predictions depend on dashas and dashas vary with ayanamshas. Could you please enlighten us on what basis you decided to choose Lahiri Ayanamsha over others? Also, Shri PVN Rao ji works tirelessly on fixing this ayanamsha problem and I remember him mentioning about an ayanamsha that is very close to the Rohini paksha that he claims to be the most accurate. Have you every tried the Rohini paksha ayanamsha (Aldeberan in the middle of Rohini) and achieved acceptable prediction accuracies?

Thank you.

cheers

[rao_mocherla]

Dear mr.prakruthi,
1. Calendar committee discussed about the fixation of ayanamsa problem, wherein many great scholars, astronomers have participated. Mr B.V.Raman also participated. He was a participant and signed the minutes of discussions. They decided Lahari ayanamsa/chitrapaksha ayanamsa is correct. The scholars in Varanasi use the same ayanamsa. For obvious reasons B.V.Raman and others started their own ayanamsa for push through their theory. The wonder is these persons do not give their reasons, why they are differing .
2. Prof.K.Srinivasa Raghavan , head of the Mathathematics and astronomy dept., made in depth study and research with whom many great astronomers of south india have co-operated with him in this task , he also opined that chitrapaksha ayanamsa gives accurate results.
3. The subject is like honeybee nest. Prof. Raghavan was a great scholar and siddha purusha. He shown to the world's renound astro-physicists when the kurukshetra war took place and where the bhagavadgeetha taught by Sri Krishna by accepting a challenge of Delhi based business ( the Marwari community business man challenged that he will give 1 crore rupees if any body can show the spot to his satisfaction. This incident took place somewhere 1980-83 . He proved it in the presence of 150 world famous astronomers in an international conference. The cheque of Rs.1 crore was given to him in the conference held Haridwar, but he torn it on the Dias itself saying that he had accepted the challenge to prove to the world that maha bharat war was real and Krishna's participation was real. Infact he was not in a position to travel from madras to Delhi due to knee injury, but Birlas arranged a charted flight for him. Chronology of maha bharat war book written by him ...this book is available in PDF format in Toranto University, Canada. Only 200 copies were printed. For fixing ayanamsa, one must do the exercise of what he did. From today we have to go back to the date of Krishna's birth time, then maha bharat war, thus we have to come to the planetary positions of today.
With blessings,
Rao, 18/12/13

[rao_mocherla]

my dear Mr.prakruthi,
1. ayanamsa...earth is not in steady position in the space. it is moving @ 1 degree for every 72 years, in fact it varies between 72 to 75 years. ie., average 25,800 + years for 360 degrees under the fixed zodiac.
2. from 1690 AD Baily, Jhon Bently, Burgess, Colebrook,Cunningham,Davis,Dalaembre.Laplace,Playfair,Sewel,Thibour,Wallis,Warren,Weber, Whyte, and many western scholors took interest in the indian Astronomy and have done some serious exercise, but they could not reach the logical conclusion. Even John Bentley also lost patience at a point of time and declared that the astronomical kaliyuga started on 17/18 - February .3102. and our people are following the same which is wrong . The Correct date is 11th January 3104 .the detailes of which given hereunder to reach logical conclusion:-
a. mean position of 5 planets as per Bentley...Mercury ...318.58, Venus ..22.00, Venus...337.42,Jupiter...5.38 Saturn...329.00,Raahu...194.02. they took mean positions...instead of apparent positions .
b.As per Prof.K.Srinivasa Raghavan , head of the Maths dept., and astronomy dept., and his group of scholors of Madras University, MAdras, India, the astronomical kali yuga started on Saturday/Sunday ...10/11th Januadry, 3104 and the planetary positions were as under,
Mercury...298.58...Venus...298.16, Mars...298.25, Jupiter...299.10, Saturn...299.05, Raahu...230.22...this is the mid Sravista position...sravista is now called Dhanista....Thus We can say the kali yuga started on 11th Jan.3104 Sunday morning. at Sunrise.
3, the fixed zodiac is like the shape our eye ...draw eye shape...left ending point note Revathi and right ending point is 180degrees Chittha/chithra (chithra paksha ayanamsa ..name came into existance due to this. N.C. Ladarius ayanamsa is called because he was the chairman of Calender committee. upper line will cover from aries to virgo and lower line covers libra to peices. under this path at 3.5 light years lower our solar family is moving in milky way galaxy at a remote point.
This information may be useful to do research in fixing ayanamsa problem for you.
with blessings,
Rao,21/12/13

[rao_mocherla]

under point3 second line the name is N.C.Lahari ..not Ladarius..sorry for the commission of mistake.rao

[tmr]

The divisional charts are primarily prepared in Vedic Astrology because there were no concrete means of calculating the net strength of houses using mathematical calculations which would take about 80 man hours or more and one had to work hard for many days to complete the complex calculations. So in effect in a month only 3 horoscopes could be calculated which is not a very profitable profession and they had to resort to approximations while calculating or evaluating a horoscope which led to the decline in credibility of the science of astrology. Today you can compute it using astrological softwares and usage of a powerful computer in a matter of minutes.

So try to learn Shadbala, Bhavabala calculations and you will no more have to cast the divisional horoscopes to analyse and evaluate the houses in Astrology. There is a book on this by Dr. B.V. Raman which could be start in this direction "Graha and Bhava Balas". You should have a good knowledge of trigonometry, solid geometry, a bit of calculus and a good knowledge of differentiation and integration.

I have posted two replies today which will give you an idea of how to finally produce the strength of houses of a horoscope and it will look like in the end very similar to a marks sheet which you get from universities after completing your degree.

TMR

[srcs]

@rao_mocherla ; Namaskar. sir, is it true chitra paksha aynamsa giving fair results is not uniform.? It seems
it is accurate for births in the last 60 years/ so. Prof.krishnamurthiji ,KP ayanamsa based on New combs
finding of coincidence of zodiacs,differing from lahiri only by 4/5 minutes seems to give good results for
people born in late 20th century/21st century? Is it based on one complete revolution of
Sani in the zodiac on which the 60 years of indian calendar had evolved.? what is ur opinion on this, sir?

[rao_mocherla]

dear tmr, I have experimented all those methods suggested by you, but could not get accurate and true position of problem and the cause of present sufferance. The birth chart planetary positions only indicate the present birth causes, situation and other related causes to the present birth. For me, the prayer to family deity had given more accurate results. and the causes to the present problems, say, curses on the family/parents/individual. i do agnihothram. i am getting miracle powers.my prediction rate of accuracy was 100 percent. Now during this last leg of my life , mostly i spend on spiritual side and spare one or two hours for answering the emails.thanks for your suggestions, Rao,22/12/13

[rao_mocherla]

Dear srcs, refer B.V.Raman writings,the kp system was copied from a person...readily i have cannot give reference details. please refer Ram'man's writings for this. it is also like another B.V.Raman's ayanamsa. The effects of changes in society/country/solar family in transit...we have to take into consideration...in predictions. in this connection i request you to give preference to the early morning dreams, after getting sidhdhi of atleast one manthra that was initiated.thanks, Rao22/12/13

[srcs]

@rao_mocherla ; I do know that u r referring one meena in BVR books.It seems this Meena was a person
who was made to attend one of the classes of at Vidya bhavan where prof.Krishnamurthiji's was
lecturing students & rest is history. It was a propaganda made out by that group.. was due to professional jealousy bcoz popularity was at stake & eminent position was being challenged due to scientific revolutionary astrology theory of prof. krishnamurthiji.This one can discern if one reads old editions of BV Raman's books & later editions when KP system was getting popular &was effective in giving accurate results. There is also reliable source news
Prof.krishnamurthyji was wantonly misled to defame him by this group....by giving a false chart of a
popular/political person to predict. A plagiarist cannot predict within a span of 2/3 minutes .
Records show prof.krishnamurthji did wonders in prediction.Also did publish path breaking books on
astrology.What Edison to Electrilight,Newton to classical physics &Einstein to Relativity theory&atomic physics so too KP system to modern astrology.It will be a disservice to the cause of this very divine science if some
"attributes " are made to his original research but this is the bane of this country. It is pertinent to note prof.krishnamurthyji was a blessed soul by kanchi seer Maha periaval whereas......

[rao_mocherla]

Dear secs, please note that I commented only on ayanamsa system of kp sysytem but not his contribution to astrology. He was a regular anushtanam practitioner of uchchista ganapathi. It is thanthrika manthra , It helped him and led to the zenith in astrological field. You do like what he did ( he was initiated the said deity mantra by Sri Sri Sri Chandrasekhara saraswathi swamiji of
Kanchi Kama koti peetam ) you also can achieve such results. The deity confers the the information with such a speed that you cannot even remember. This situation one is to experience but cannot be explained. Rao, 23/12/13

[srcs]

@Rao-Mocherla; In ur post u wrote which i reproduce "Dear srcs, refer B.V.Raman writings,the kp system
was copied from a person...readily i have cannot give reference details. please refer Ram'man's writings for this." After this only u were mentioning about ayanamsa etc. I felt there was no need to impute some unfounded
motives/attributes to any individual esp. persons of tall calbre as prof.krishnamurthyji.
u know all persons doing utchishta ganapathi upasanas cannot become stalwarts/Giants in any field unless chosen by God/blessed by Seers like kanchi Maha periaval.

[satishdesh]

Namaste rathorji

I am glad to have found someone who has been looking for 4 decades and still haven't found any proof of aspects in divisions. I whole heartedly agree with you. After reading many classical texts nowhere planetary aspects are mentioned outside Rashi. I read texts created in AD with caution as they may are usually opinions of Astrology enthusiasts just like Shri KN Rao has his own in 21st Century.The way planetary aspects are defined is longitudinal and longitudes do not exist outside Rashi, so question of aspects do not arise in divisions. Neither Bhavas and Yogas exist outside Rashi.

This one is quote from your initial post on this topic.

Will you please let us know text or astrological classics created before BC ?

Regards
satish

[satishdesh]

Namaste prakruti

At last pvr narsimha, author of J hora software settled for pushya paksh ayanamsha which is very close to raman ayanamsha. Difference between raman and pushya is approx 16 kala. But as ayanamsha is assumed standard there is no guarantee that by using new found ayanamsha we can have correct predictions.

Astrology is vidya and not science. And so we have to worship this vidya constantly to have perfection up to certain extent which can be there if only GOD is favourable.

Regards
satish

[rathore]

Namaste Satish ji,

BC is the general period (before AD) but is a loose term I use just to mean that the texts are before AD for sure. But actually these texts have been orally around for God knows how long.

Yes now PVR ji is saying Pushya Paksha is the right Ayanamsa. Its close to Yukteshwar & is quite far from Lahiri so Dashas change significantly. Quite some people will have their Janma nakshatra changed with Pushya Paksha. Do try it out.

I remember one time he embraced SSS by Vinay Jha for sometime too.

Rathore

[Caliber]

pushya paksh ayanamsha does not match any of my life events. Lahiri is near the events.