is it advisable to wear gemstone of lord of 6/8/12 house ?
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Not advisable, In my personal opinion - gemstones are quite ineffective and they do damage (like making you lose money).
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ap210585 wrote:Hello all,
I was wondering if it is advisable to wear the gemstone of a weak lord who owns the 6/8/12 house ? especially when the lord also rules another house ?
For instance in my case (cancer ascendant) jupiter is weak and is lord of both 6th and 9th house ? Don't you think wearing the yellow sapphire for weak jupiter would activate the 6th house too ? the house of debt...
It is the mistake taking single house owner ship to tell either a planet is Malefic or Benific
Jup is Benefic by taking Trine lord ship as 9H. So if he is weak Use Gem..,
SARVE JANAAHA SUKHINO BHAVANTU
SAMASTA SANMANGALANI BHAVANTU
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SAMASTA SANMANGALANI BHAVANTU
--SREEDHAR-
Dear Aaron,
First of all I would like to get down to facts. The Yellow Sapphire mentioned in the scriptures is not actually the one you are wearing. In Vedic times - the yellow sapphire stone wasn't actually available, the sages were referring to Brown Unheated Topaz. But in modern times - yellow sapphire became widely available in India and merchants thought it would be a good idea to promote it as a stone of 'Jupiter'.
In visible spectrum Jupiter is milky brown in color with a tinge of orange. In IR spectrum many more colors would reveal itself.
Going back to vedic times - before written astrology came into existence, the Rig Veda clearly mentions Brihaspati (aka Jupiter) can only be pleased by hymns. To really please Jupiter a significant change in lifestyle is required.
अनर्वाणं वर्षभं मन्द्रजिह्वं बर्हस्पतिं वर्धया नव्यमर्कैः |
गाथान्यः सुरुचो यस्य देवा आश्र्ण्वन्ति नवमानस्य मर्ताः ||
अस्य शलोको दिवीयते पर्थिव्यामत्यो न यंसद यक्षभ्र्द विचेताः |
मर्गाणां न हेतयो यन्ति चेमा बर्हस्पतेरहिमायानभि दयून ||
Basically what this verse says is - this guy cannot be pleased by trinkets, both Mortals and Gods must praise him by hymms, songs, worship and being noble.
Same applies to Venus. It cannot be pleased by wearing Diamonds. Venus is a planet which is 98% carbon-di-oxide which makes it very hard for it to absorb sunlight. Venus doesn't depend on Sun for sustenance, co2 serves as natural heat source (this is also why venus cannot be combust in astrology), in fact it is so hot that you could literally bake your own pizza without an oven. So the stone they were referring to is White sapphire (http://www.mjjewellery.com/pic/ring_sapphire_white.jpg).
Coming down to realm of ignorance you'll find that the effect of these stones is mainly psychological and not physical manifestations. People naturally hope for the best which is actually a good practice with or without the stone. Think about it, can these massive planets be pleased by wearing gems? I think not...
But there are stones which are known to have a very negative effect on individuals - the so called Gomed (hesonite) of Rahu. You should avoid touching this stone if your Jupiter is well placed or benefic in the chart. I don't know why but unlike other stones Gomed can damage internal organs in some people. Studies have shown the effect of Gomed cannot be detected using astrology (so it must be bio chemical) - but it does have an effect for sure, mostly negative.
Regards
First of all I would like to get down to facts. The Yellow Sapphire mentioned in the scriptures is not actually the one you are wearing. In Vedic times - the yellow sapphire stone wasn't actually available, the sages were referring to Brown Unheated Topaz. But in modern times - yellow sapphire became widely available in India and merchants thought it would be a good idea to promote it as a stone of 'Jupiter'.
In visible spectrum Jupiter is milky brown in color with a tinge of orange. In IR spectrum many more colors would reveal itself.
Going back to vedic times - before written astrology came into existence, the Rig Veda clearly mentions Brihaspati (aka Jupiter) can only be pleased by hymns. To really please Jupiter a significant change in lifestyle is required.
अनर्वाणं वर्षभं मन्द्रजिह्वं बर्हस्पतिं वर्धया नव्यमर्कैः |
गाथान्यः सुरुचो यस्य देवा आश्र्ण्वन्ति नवमानस्य मर्ताः ||
अस्य शलोको दिवीयते पर्थिव्यामत्यो न यंसद यक्षभ्र्द विचेताः |
मर्गाणां न हेतयो यन्ति चेमा बर्हस्पतेरहिमायानभि दयून ||
Basically what this verse says is - this guy cannot be pleased by trinkets, both Mortals and Gods must praise him by hymms, songs, worship and being noble.
Same applies to Venus. It cannot be pleased by wearing Diamonds. Venus is a planet which is 98% carbon-di-oxide which makes it very hard for it to absorb sunlight. Venus doesn't depend on Sun for sustenance, co2 serves as natural heat source (this is also why venus cannot be combust in astrology), in fact it is so hot that you could literally bake your own pizza without an oven. So the stone they were referring to is White sapphire (http://www.mjjewellery.com/pic/ring_sapphire_white.jpg).
Coming down to realm of ignorance you'll find that the effect of these stones is mainly psychological and not physical manifestations. People naturally hope for the best which is actually a good practice with or without the stone. Think about it, can these massive planets be pleased by wearing gems? I think not...
But there are stones which are known to have a very negative effect on individuals - the so called Gomed (hesonite) of Rahu. You should avoid touching this stone if your Jupiter is well placed or benefic in the chart. I don't know why but unlike other stones Gomed can damage internal organs in some people. Studies have shown the effect of Gomed cannot be detected using astrology (so it must be bio chemical) - but it does have an effect for sure, mostly negative.
Regards
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Yes you are right. But I found it to be untrue- Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are unaffected by combustion in the chart.
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How would the sages have known what substance a planet was made of?
And....don't take our sages for crackheads with no scientific knowledge, their intelligence far outstrips the modern ones. They knew atomic theory, astronomy, planetary composition and the nature of our milky way galaxy way before the advent of modern science. Vedas is the conclusion of all sciences.
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Elipsis,
I am just wondering if you are aware of the difference between 'crack' and 'crackhead'? : D
Of course I do...I think my roomate (back in usa) was one but she didn't like to be called so. Anyhow -the vedic approach is systemmatic and standarized, it lays down guidelines as to what is to be accepted with faith - things which are unknown to mortals are to be accepted by faith and rest of them by facts. People don't accept that in the mainstream because they might become the subject of mockery as Vedas lays down emphasis on faith. So its a wonderful technique, how can I reject something which I don't know for sure? The modern science on the other hand is different, it accepts things based on experiementation - but here is the thing - how can you be sure what you observe is accurate? For that mind has to be working preciesely as it should, but no one would know for sure would they? Quantum mechanics (fancy physics) tell us that there is a limit to what we observe and understand and when mind reaches that threshold your observation turns inaccurate, so science too is based on faith in a way- where anything and everything can be proven (or disproven). One man from India said 'Utility isn't the test of truth' - which modern science sadly is, you'll find all these scientists claiming some utility as an excuse to carry out their research but the truth is if there is no utility it doesn't make the knowledge less valuable.
Regards
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I think it depends on what you want.
people automatically assume that 6th,8th,12th houses have no positive benefits but that's not true. a strong 6th house can be the sign of someone in the medical profession, 8th - an astrologer, 12th a spiritualist. These houses especially the 8th/12th operate in another realm - metaphysical/spiritual so their rulers / dashas don't necessarily signify earthly benefits if that's what you're after. its not that they don't, but they are called dustana houses for something.
if you wished to pursue spiritualism then wearing the 12th house lord stone will only serve to enhance those positive 12th house significations. However, if the ruler of the 12th happens to be a malefic then such as mars then you also enhance all significations of mars too which include sexual desire. if mars rules the 12th and the 12th is a house of bedroom pleasures then that will be a barrier to spiritualism.
its a tough one but if you think it through and are sure about what you want then anything is possible. wearing a Saturn stone for some people will bring discipline, hard work etc... but it could damage the house its placed in.
like I said, it depends on what you want to achieve.
people automatically assume that 6th,8th,12th houses have no positive benefits but that's not true. a strong 6th house can be the sign of someone in the medical profession, 8th - an astrologer, 12th a spiritualist. These houses especially the 8th/12th operate in another realm - metaphysical/spiritual so their rulers / dashas don't necessarily signify earthly benefits if that's what you're after. its not that they don't, but they are called dustana houses for something.
if you wished to pursue spiritualism then wearing the 12th house lord stone will only serve to enhance those positive 12th house significations. However, if the ruler of the 12th happens to be a malefic then such as mars then you also enhance all significations of mars too which include sexual desire. if mars rules the 12th and the 12th is a house of bedroom pleasures then that will be a barrier to spiritualism.
its a tough one but if you think it through and are sure about what you want then anything is possible. wearing a Saturn stone for some people will bring discipline, hard work etc... but it could damage the house its placed in.
like I said, it depends on what you want to achieve.
