Why is a Cancer Ascendant Special

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Maharani

The question you asked about marriage I have posted it a few posts before this. I forgot to address to you and Rajitha thought it was meant for him. Please take a look at the website I refer to and if you have any further queries on how to interpret to me, you can put up a new post or Private Message to me.

Thanks.

Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Rajitha

The answer to the post on marriage was not meant for you.

When you said personal chart, you mean the charts I interpret or my birth chart?

Actually I am quite objective. It could be you that is biased because I do not follow the orthodox ways of prediction, or to put another way, what you have been taught - actually I do use a lot of orthodox principles besides my other personal principles which I would not call unorthodox but my intuitive grasp of the subject of Vedic Astrology as mentioned in your another post. I try to incorporate as many information as I can from various sources.

Also it is best not to put me down like that in the forum in a thread. If you have something to say like that, you can just ask a simple question like where I get the source from or you can PM to me.

Do you know that Basab has to close the thread on the discussion of "Relationship of Planets in the 1st and 7th Houses" and then ask me for my interpretation of his chart in another post where I was talking about my chart because he knows the thread would not be disturbed there? (He may deny it, but he is such an intelligenet person, I am sure that was the reason).

Please have some consideration for others.

(Jupiter in the 9th by the way IS BIASED, BUT THEY DO NOT MEAN ANY HARM. They seldom realise their behaviour on the effects on others.)

But what's said and done, we would put it aside. :lol:

Please drop the thread for the marriage question as my answers were directed more for Maharani - I am sure you can interpret marriage on your chart unless you want to clarify something from Zoran which I am also sure you can decipher on your own unless you want some technical parlaying on the points raised in his site.

Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi

Just wanted to add this to the thread. In any relationshis between 2 people, the connection between two people can also be strong if the 1st house planets are friends with the other person's first house planets, the 7th house planets are friends with the other person's seventh house planets, and in the case of the chart where the planets all lined up like a wreath, the middle planet of one person is a friend also of the middle planet of the other person.

For the 1st and 7th houses we can use in place of it, the planet leading the wreath and the planet trailing the wreath respectively. So 1st house planet friend to planet leading the wreath and 7th house planet friend to planet trailing the wreath also promotes compatibility between the two persons.

Generally of the three points of contact, the most important is the 7th house or trailing planet contact as it involves adjustment for long term relationships. The middle contact is important for it deals with the inner core of each of the person's character which may add to the 7th house contact.

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Basab and Me :

Leading or 1st House Planet - Mars and Venus so neutral
Trailing or 7th House Planet - Venus and Saturn - great friends. Venus and Moon enemies but Saturn is stronger as it is the final ruler of the chart.
Middle Planet in the Wreath - Moon and Mars - great friends although Moon is neutral towards Mars.

Overall - very good

We are also both Cancerians in Tropical Astrology. Cancerians actually sympathise with each other.
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Rajitha and Me :

Leading or 1st House Planet - Venus and Saturn - great friend (we started out as great friend and we would still be friends as these are our natural dispositions). But Venus usually is the only planet that can dominate Saturn. If it had been the Sun or Jupiter, I think Saturn would have swallowed it up.

By the way Rajitha has Gemini Asc and I have Cancer Asc. So Mercury is friend to the Moon but Moon is enemy to Mercury especially Gemini because Gemini does not like to be in the 4th. But I give more weightage to the planets.

Middle Planet - Not applicable as I think Rajitha does not have a wreath kind of combination in his chart.

In that case if the other person has a middle planet, this influence would be split 50-50 between this current person's 1st and last planet. So we analyse this way.

Mars and Saturn - Enemies. Mars would always set up the destruction altar for Saturn.

Rajitha, do you have a 7th house planet? If not, then would have to use the sign placed there. Mars (my middle planet) goes with Jupiter the 7th lord. So good friends. I think Rajitha does not mind my intense pursuit of astroloy.

7th house or Trailing Planet - If we use Jupiter, Saturn and Jupiter are enemies and Saturn keeps a stranglehold on Jupiter.

Overall : Have to emphasise more on the Saturn and Venus contact points in the 1st house. Then things will work out well. But it looks like I have an edge over Rajitha with all my corresponding planets having a more superior hold on his corresponding planet. Hmmmm....
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Rajitha,

Let's put the past behind us.

Thanks.

Hock Leong

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[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Rajitha

Glad you are back. Actually I read in the scriptures website which I posted the URL, they say Moon and Mercury are more friends than enemies because both have something to do with thinking.

Also I guess only Saturn being a tamaric temperament can accept Venus rajastic temperament and her kindness even though she follows the teching of the demons.

You have your plus points and so does Basab individualistic way of doing things - his Mars is his leading planet.

Welcome back!

Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Rajitha

I forgot to add that my Saturnis on Basab's Venus (the trailing planets) so the Venus-Saturn relationship is more on a kind of mutual respect and ajustment. Good and permanet. And I look at Basab's kindness. It makes for stabilising relationship.

But your Saturn is on my Venus (the initiating planets) so the looking through the veil is from you to me. But because it is the initiating planet, each new situation that arises or crops out would have to be taken and judged on its own merit. It makes for a fun relationship.

Astrology is really illuminating.

Hock Leog

[shilpimanjani]

hello friends
i am a cancer ascendant with moon and rahu in the 7th house.
what effects would this have on my life. also as mars is a yogakarka planet for me i have its placement in the 10th house along with venus.
my d.o.b is 11th march 1972
time ; 03:24p.m.
place : kanpur(U.P.)

please reply at u r earliest

[sameera_kmc]

Hi Hock Leong,

My little tidbit on the cancer ascendant. Firstly, the cancer lagna person (no matter what rashi) "presents" himself as a nurturing and caring person and loyal friend/husband/etc. Who wouldn't want such a person in their life? Also, cancer lagna is a royal personality on the outside... no matter how he/she is inside (again not considering chandra rashi). And cancer lagnas dont like picking fights with anyone.. its a cool nurturing energy they exhibit.

Also, cancer lagna persons are generally submissive and prefer playing the role of a wise minister/advisor. Again a benefit to the other person.

You are bang on about this point. Person has lot of gratitude for people who help him/her but gets no gratitute and expects no gratitude from others for the help he/she provides.

Since moon and sun are mutually friendly, i wonder why sun's placement in cancer is not considered good compared to moon's placement in leo.

Moon is a friend to mercury but mercury doesnt like moon. So i do not understand how 12th house or 3rd house moon for cancer ASC is good as moon will not be well placed. Mercury is happily placed in cancer as moon considers him a friend but moon is not happy in gemini and virgo.

Aren't Venus and Mercury functional malefics for cancer ascendant?

[sameera_kmc]

[quote="shilpimanjani"]hello friends
i am a cancer ascendant with moon and rahu in the 7th house.
what effects would this have on my life. also as mars is a yogakarka planet for me i have its placement in the 10th house along with venus.
my d.o.b is 11th march 1972
time ; 03:24p.m.
place : kanpur(U.P.)

please reply at u r earliest[/quote]

Shilpi,
This might come as a strong response. Its just how i see it from the info u gave. I have not looked at ur birthchart. You are a capricorn trying to show u r very caring. Secretly, your only reason to show care for others is to reap good benefits from good relations with others. Try to truly care for others. Mars is well placed in own house giving rise to rucharka mahapurusha yoga. Conjunction with venus makes u passionate about your work. You will be a good success in professional life and a powerful boss which is very important for capricorn.

[sameera_kmc]

[quote="Khoo Hock Leong"]Hi

Amongst all the ascendants a person can have I would count a Cancer ASC as a special one. Why? Because the Moon has no enemies.

What this translates to is that the person is an all rounder in life. There is no aspect of any of his life (ie. any particular Bhava) which is a complete mess (barring placement of planets, the significators, the lords etc.). All work in tandem to support the ASC ie. the Grahas supporting the Moon ruler of the ASC.

But hang on a minute. The Moon only has two friends - Sun and Mercury. So it does especially well in 12th, 2nd and 3rd house matters. No one dares bully the Cancer Asc person especially the third house is ruled by the friend of the Moon, Mercury. On the other hand, the person is an enemy to the 3rd house ruler meaning he has no gratitude to persons who are actually protecting him via various means. That is gratitude for you! Seldom (or I think none) is there an ASC who has a friend in the ruler of the 3rd house - make special note of this!

Notice the Dharma houses are ruled by Mars and Jupiter. They are only netural to the Moon. The Moon waxes and wanes so right actions and principles are not one of the main ingredients factor into its decision making. On the other hand Moon is friend to Mars and Jupiter. It tries to stick to the right path but unfortunately, its versatility and changeability takes the better control of it.

But Jupiter is exalted in Cancer and Mars is fall in Cancer. When these planets are placed in the 1st house of a Cancer ASC, this takes precedence over the friendship of planets. So with Jupiter there, the person becomes extraordinarily ethical and with Mars there, the person's whims and fancies add to his changeability and therefore sidetracks his objectives in life.

What if the person's Moon for a Cancer ASC becomes the Atmakaraka? Then none of its enemies can penetrate or pierces its soul - its innermost character. The person remains true to himself!

Thanks.

Hock Leong[/quote]

Good esoteric stuff. I enjoyed reading this

[subhasish]

let me know about this birth chart.
gender female. dob 13th may 1981. at 11.05 am at howrah,westbengal,india
Her asc: cancer
in asc rahu
in 2nd moon
in 3rd sat & jup both are retro mode
in 4th nil
in 5th nil
in 6th nil
in 7th ket
in 8th
in 9th
in 10th mars & sun
in 11th mer& ven
in 12th nil

tell me what about her carrier marriage or affair. she is passing now rahu mahadasha & jupiter antardasha.

[revribhav]

Cancer ascendent natives have 3 distinct characteristics:
a) as the lord is the moon, they expeirience ebb and tide with more force than any other lagna.
Even the most successful cancerians cannot escape sudden failure or reversal of fortune.
The strength of moon becomes zero once in every lunar month.
b) they have a pathetic or average love life (saturn both 7th and 8th lord)
c) they are the best fighters ,particularly when mars is strong,
they have the inherent ability to recover from initial failure.

[dipincoolwater]

^ Revribhav ji..hello... you being a cancer asc yourself..are stating your experiences n they r quite valuable

[revribhav]

Thanks dipin,
the flow of water is very important for cancer ascendent
one has to see to it that it is not stagnant.

[dipincoolwater]

Yes Sir, I agree with you 100%...but the water flows only when the almighty wants

[revribhav]

About knowledge I recall the saying that those who really need it,they always get it.The power of moon becomes zero for a limited time only.