Why is Venus in 12th not good for Pisces rising?

[piscean82]

I read that Venus does very well in the 12th house for all except the Pisces ascendants. Why is it so? Venus will be in Aquarius lorded by Saturn(friend of Venus) in this case. Is it not considered good?

[elipsis]

If Venus is a functional benefic or in exaltation then Venus does well in the 12th house, ie: Aries, Gemini, Virgo, Capricorn and Aquarius.

[piscean82]

Thanks Elipsis!!! So what good/bad effects does the pisces rising native see with 3rd/8th lord Venus in 12th house? Could you throw some light on it?

[surajmohith]

dear elipses
can you say about the saggitarius lagna with only venus in 12 th house aspected by exalted moon in 6th house taurus is it is good or bad ? if it is good or bad to what degrree it is?
dob: 6-11-1960
10:30 Am ; visakhapatnam ; male.
thanks

[elipsis]

Venus is definitely bad for Sag unless its in 11th or 3rd. At least its definitely bad for health so you need to watch your diet. People with this ascendant suffer from sugar related diseases - which I've noticed in many cases, even after repeated warnings their addiction to sweet preparations will increase with their age.

Although 6th lord in 12th forms Vipareeta Raja Yoga you ought to understand the true meaning of this, it means everything in "excess".

But when 3rd and 6th lord are in conjunction then there is a cure for diseases in the chart, this rule applies to all ascendants.

Regards

[amitns]

My wife (pisces lagena) has venus in 5th house in karka and venus is debilitated in navamsa in 12th house. how will her venus mahadasha be?

Amit

[surajmohith]

dear elipses
thanks for your kind reply . is the vipreetha raja yoga is powerful , he has no diabetes or blood pressure. he is having thyroid disease . one thing i want to say he is so aggressive and keeps venegance in mind . he only hears to his mind,nobody else can convince him.
And also 8th lord in 6th house is it is a vipreetha raja yoga. 8th exalted is it enhancing the 8th house karakathwas .
iam waiting for your replies sir
thanking you
surajmohith

[elipsis]

Dear Suraj,

From my experience natural benefics don't do well in the evil houses. For Sagittarius two benefics Venus and Moon rule 6 and 8 respectively, but if you want a malefic to form any Raja Yoga you have to make sure they are natural malefics in the first place, because only natural malefics do well in those houses - 6th house in particular is a very physically charged house - everything from your daily routine work to fighting diseases, winning arguments and winning competitions requires physical strength which natural benefics are incapable of providing no matter how strong they are. When that's the case natural benefics lording 6 & 8 must be weak to form a Raja Yoga - like 8th Lord in the 12th forms a powerful Raja Yoga for Sagittarius- mainly because 8th Lord attains debilitation and at the same time it forms a Raja Yoga as well - provided the ascendant lord is stronger.

But we don't want Venus to be weak because of the 11th house ownership - 11th house lord becomes benefic in the long run so Venus has this ray of hope to do good to the native if it resides in the 11th.

Aggressive attitudes can easily be detected in the horoscopes. Saturn is in the ascendant and he owns 3rd house of speech which makes him very judgmental about himself and his surroundings, especially his Mother.

1. 3L conjuncts 4th
2. 2L conjuncts 4th
3. 1L and 4L conjuncts 2nd and 3rd.

Apart from that Saturn aspects 7th, this also forms strained relationship with the spouse. Also 8th lord aspects Venus in the 12th house of Scorpio - this shows that his hopes and wishes are geared towards secret unrealistic fantasies which again brings trouble because of the 6 & 8 relationship with Venus and Moon. Rahu in the 9th shows someone running away from his duties.

Regards

[Moits007]

Hi Elipses,

I am curious to know how does exalted Venus do well in 4th house for sag lagna. Contrary to you earlier statements, Venus ain't in 3rd or 11th house.

Well said about deb moon for sag lagna. Given strong LL, deb moon for sag lagna gives strong Raja yog. One example is Narendra Modi.



Regards

[elipsis]

Hi Elipses,

I am curious to know how does exalted Venus do well in 4th house for sag lagna. Contrary to you earlier statements, Venus ain't in 3rd or 11th house.

Well said about deb moon for sag lagna. Given strong LL, deb moon for sag lagna gives strong Raja yog. One example is Narendra Modi.



Regards

Still, Rahu is 5th from Moon and Mars in his chart makes him a narcissistic frack, and retro Jupiter is falling back to his debilitation sign makes him morally bankrupt, so be careful when you judge people.

Anyhow, Venus in the 4th house for Sag can be good as well as bad, its bad for career because Mercury is going to be in a very bad placement.

Regards

[Moits007]

Elipses,

The judgement about Nareneda Modi is not based on gut, intuition or simple judgement, instead it is based on facts. He has shown his mettle by the way Gujrat has progressed, by the way Advani has been sidelined, and by the way Rahul is portrayed as minuscule in front of him. If retro jup is the only criteria of judging the people, I am afraid you are wrong. There are other things to check.


Also. Please let me know how Mercury will be in bad placement, if Venus exalts in sag lagna.




Thanks

[elipsis]

I am not going to discuss politics here, but I would say your astro knowledge is still inadequate, perhaps you'll learn more in the future.

Venus in the 4th is bad for career because when Venus aspects the 10th house of honor, position, career and fame, the depositor (mercury) will be in 12th, 1st and 2nd from Venus. These are bad placement for the depositor.

Regards

[Moits007]

Elipses, I am sad by your mediocre state of astrology. It is mercury always in 1st,2nd or 12th of sun.

The mercury could be in 1, 2, 3, 11 or 12th house of venus. Example,

30th October, 2013
4:00
South Grafton (default in Jhora)

Please check your astrology knowledge yourself.

[Moits007]

The venus exaltation for sag lagna is very good for actors.

[elipsis]

Elipses, I am sad by your mediocre state of astrology. It is mercury always in 1st,2nd or 12th of sun.

The mercury could be in 1, 2, 3, 11 or 12th house of venus. Example,

30th October, 2013
4:00
South Grafton (default in Jhora)

Please check your astrology knowledge yourself.

I'm sorry, I should have said "most of the time" Mercury will be in 1, 2, 12 from Venus.

Regards.

[Moits007]

Admittance of mistake is divine, always.

Perhaps, you got over confident.

[elipsis]

No, I don't want to go off-topic.

[Moits007]

No, I don't want to go off-topic.

It is strange that you make bad remark about my astrology skills, and rank that as "on topic" ???????

And when your astrology knowledge and your ego is stripped, you call that off topic.

[Moits007]

Kindly refrain from personal remark, henceforth.

Thanks

[elipsis]

No, I don't want to go off-topic.

It is strange that you make bad remark about my astrology skills, and rank that as "on topic" ???????

And when your astrology knowledge and your ego is stripped, you call that off topic.

I didn't make a bad remark on your astrological knowledge, I told you to learn more. My ego is never hurt and I apologized for the silly mistake, you are the one making a big deal out of it. This is not a political forum to discuss your fanboyisms with the lunatics. I gave you my views, agree or disagree - that's all.

[Moits007]

I didn't make a bad remark on your astrological knowledge, I told you to learn more.

Isn't that off topic, first of all???. But when your remark is accompanied by ridiculous statement like mercury is always 1st, 2nd or 12th, it is you who need to learn.

My ego is never hurt and I apologized for the silly mistake, you are the one making a big deal out of it.

I said admittance is divine. Nothing else. Check out the previous posts. Who has been humble.

This is not a political forum to discuss your fanboyisms with the lunatics.

YOur so called "fanboyisms" is for real. Agree or disagree, there is no better than Narendra Modi.

I gave you my views, agree or disagree - that's all.

You have strange way of giving your views. Check out above post and see yourself who made personal remark. That too out of your poor astrological skills.