Ruby for Deb Sun??

[dipincoolwater]

Respected Learned Astrologers,

I have been advised to wear Ruby for my Weak and Deb Sun (2nd Lord in 4th house, neechbhang due to Venus MT in 4th itself) and pearl for my LL Moon. I remember to be told earlier not to wear Ruby. However, it has been advised for my better health and family life.

Could you please guide if it would be advisable to wear Ruby and peral together in Silver?

Appreciate a response from you all.

Regards

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Dipin
You shd not wear ruby for 3 reasons:
1. Sun is debi and one shd never wear stones of debi planets. As regard Neechbhang theory, neechbhang is there coz of its conjunction with Ven (lord of rashi where Sun is posted) but Ven itslef is completely combust so I doubt whether it may be able to do real neechbhang.
2. Sun is markesh for Cancer lagna. Being 2L it may give detrimental results regaring health.
3. One shd wear stone sonly of dasha planets. From Oct 1, 2013 ur Moon dasha started. Hence u shd wear Moti/Pearl which will help you unconditionally.
God bless you
Neeraj

[SWARNIM]

Dr Neeraj has already given the reasons for not wearing Ruby. In my opinion, you should not wear Pearl also, since it may catalyse the effects of the Moon which is not desirable. The Moon is facing oppositions from so many planets in 7th from it causing you to be influenced by multiple forces at a time (in other words, you may find yourself in situations leading to multitasking without any objective) that leads you to nowhere.

The prayers to the Lord Shiva should be the best remedy if such is the case.

[dipincoolwater]

Dear Dr Neeraj and Swarnim,

Firstly Thanks for your quick response.

I am in agreement with most of the points you both made above ; However I have my doubts on few points:

a) Venus is doubly combust I am aware; however it would not cause Neechbhang Yoga that theory I have not read anywhere. As per my understanding, It might be the case that Neechbhang would not fructify or give awsome results thought it would ensure that the Bad results would be lessened due to deb of Sun. ( My Sun MD has lead me nowehere and confused whereas my Venus MD had my plate more than full in terms of career)

b) I am not sure if one should only wear stones of the MD Lord, coz as per my understanding and knowldge sharing from seniors here, the yogas kick in and work life long. Esp the SUN whose your vigor, family , health , vitality and wealth ; weak Sun would always lead to deficiency of all these things in one's life.

c) When I was wearing Pearl, I had experienced an excellent career though I dont know why and how i removed it. The case FOR wearing pearl is since it is Lagnesh and a Yogi planet in my chart so strengthening Moon can give rise to career and strength to tackle all the influences of these plethora of drishtis. In my opinion moon is not facing opposition from all of them Sun n Jup has some positive influence and support Moon as well. However, Sat n Merc which are very tight in aspect are causing a bit of harm and esp in Ashwini Nak my mind gets blown away.

With my limited learning and knowledge, I tried to discuss this. Kindly dont take it otherwise, I will be always your fan esp articles you share Dr Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Dipin
We all are students of astrology and everyday we are learning something new. Here is my understanding for ur doubts:

a) I agree ti ur point of "No mention" of cancellation of Neechbhang yoga in classics. We were taught by our teacher in Bhartiya Vidya Bhawan that nothing get cancelled in real life. Whatever we attribute term neechbhang it means problems will be there none the less, however in the end things may go ok.
This seems logical also and in my experience I've seen that debilitated planets do give poor results.
Same goes with combust planets, a combust planet also results in the frustration in the signification of its karaka. Ex: Conbust Ven gives frustration in marital affairs or in relations with opposite sex.

b) Stones channelize energy in a fast manner and one must be ready for it. Wearing stone of trines is always good provided their lords are placed good. One shd never wear any stone of planet connected with 6/8/12H as they may give adverse results. Other than Stone of LL, rest are effective only in their dasha.

c) I disagree with my learned friend Swarnim regarding not wearing of Pearl.
Moon is makung Gaj kesari yoga in D-1 & D-9. It is exalted in D-9 as well as D-10. But at the same time it is weak in Shad bala & VImshopak bala, hence it need to be strengthed. Since it is exalted in navamsa, it wont give u bad results like fluctuations etc. It will give u gud results.

God bless you
Neeraj

[dipincoolwater]

Dr Neeraj,

Which ayanamsa do you use? I am asking as I met a very old student (40 yrs of exp in astrology, esp medical and gemstone) of Dr BV Raman, and he uses Fagan so there is a complete change in the D9 which makes my head spin. And he has suggested the Ruby with pearl as Sun and Merc gave me issues during Sun MD like health issues related to nervous system.

Evene I understand that Sun is MArak for me and moreover if read Articles where Dr Raman himself told not to wear stones for Neech Graha, just that m confused why his associate only asked me to wear Ruby?

Anyways, pearl has given me good results though 1-2 other ppl also told me NOT to wear pearl Since it is forming kemadrum yoga though I am not 100 sure that Kemadrum is there Since it is aspected by almost everybody in the D1 and as you mentioned it sits with Jup n mars in D9. How Bout that?

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Dipin
I'm a student of BVB Delhi and we use only Lahiri ayanmsa.
Many people may suggets you different things, trust only your guts and experience.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Pem]

Dear Dipin; Dr Neeraj & Swarnim

It is interesting to share and learn with learned members on this forum.
Permit me to make my comment since Dipin has requested responses.

As Moon being Lord of Asc - is also weak in Digbala - needs to be strengthened, and wearing
a Pearl will fortify this planet during adverse conditions which may prevail throughout life.
Moon is not in total isolation for Kemadruma dosha to have its negative effects.

Sun is a benefic for this chart, weak in digbala and debilitated, and it will be favourable to wear Ruby to strengthen
its beneficial effects all year round for life.

Further, Poojas, prayers and mantras to Lord Shiva and Shiv Parvathy will be most effective.

Regards

[dipincoolwater]

Thank you Pem ji,

Your Response is really appreciated here. However, how would you say about wearing Coral ( Sinduri color- light Orange) with the pearl instead of Ruby? I know it would be for the Yogakaraka though he sits in 6th House. I am compelled to ask as it is now Moon MD started and he is 9th from the moon.

The case FOR wearing ruby was made exactly the way you mentioned above. So it really clears my confusion in a way OR makes me more confused

Thank you again!!

[dipincoolwater]

And Yes,
I was reading BPHS the other day, and it is clearly mentioned that Sani and Surya are absolute "Killers" for Kark Lagna...so I wonder whom to agree

[Pem]

Hello Dipin
No need to get confused. Just keep it simple, clear and it will be spot-on.

You had Ruby(Manik) in the Sun MD - owns a good house but weak in Shad Bala 0.76 ; Fine
You are having Pearl (Moti) in Moon MD - Lagna Lord but weak -Shad Bala 0.98 ; Fine

Now for Mars MD - Yogakaraka - Shad Bala 1.31 - which is strong anyway ; You have the option
to wear Red Coral (Moonga) or not. Its your wish. Better wait for Mars MD as it is not far off.
Alternative:
Doing prayers, pooja and mantras to Lord Subramaniam will also be sufficient and effective.

I usually do not encourage wearing of gemstones and prefer the daily worship and mantras.

I hope this will help clarify your thoughts.
Regards

[dipincoolwater]

Sure,

but just to clarify, i did not wear any gemstones apart from pearl ( for a time being) during SUN MD...had a pretty rough time with my health (Epilepsy, piles, seboric dermitites, sinus etc.) and career and to some extent my family life as well. Though from money side a third party would say I am earning abundant and last year itself I had a wonderful baby boy. So all in all I am getting back what my karmas are.

And I agree, its always better to pray with your utmost true self but then if you have so many influences on your moon , its always hard to continue the prayers as well.

God Bless!

[Pem]

Hello Dipin
Your last post came in late.
Sun and Saturn are natural malefics but they have their friends and foes.
I think your Mars is a frustrated in the 6H being yogakaraka and not being able
to help and do its duty by his friend, the Moon. I do not think Mars in that state should be
interfered with, but just left alone instead of trying to fortify him more to burst with
more frustration as he could possibly turn illogical, and be damaging on the contrary.

In this case, I strongly advise you to avoid wearing the Moonga and only do prayers and mantras.
I do not want you to experiment with your life in this doubtful situation.
The long and safe route is the best way.
I know that you are trying to activate your 9H from Moon for luck, but the 9H of fortune in the
Main Tree - D1 - Rashi Chart - is the foundation and will prevail.
Use of gemstones, which I myself and so many others think, is an artificial, shortcut and lazy method of trying
to achieve gains.
On the whole, we cannot beat the 100 percent reliable spiritual remedial measures.
Regards

[Pem]

How long does it take to pray and light a lamp for once in the day ?
We spend so much time on the computer, tv, radio, and there is a time
for everything. There are no excuses. And, to the creator - if we cannot give
10 - 15 minutes for a day - Is that too much that the Almighty is asking ?

PS. I do not know, but gemstones may cost a lot of money, in India or anywhere.

[dipincoolwater]

Dear Pem, 100% in agreement with you. Thanks

[Pem]

Hello Dipin
I am happy for you and your family and Baby Son that you were blessed with.
God Bless
Pem