My Mother is suffering from acute knee joint pain
she is also wearing knee socks when she goes out ,but no major help
she also took calcium sandoz tabs , but no improvement
she is 58 yrs old, has high blood pressure and no other ailment
please suggest any remedy for knee joints pain
Please Suggest Natural Ayurvedic Home Remedies for Knee Pain
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R V RAMANAN
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Dear tiger,
Now very sophisticated knee braces are available which can shift the weight of her body to the calf and this will give less stress on the knee in case she is over weight.
If she is lean and has arthritis then home remedy would be to apply gingely oil and give a gentle massage and leave it for a few minutes before washing it with warm water.
Any way first consult any good physician in your area and find out the cause.
Regards
ramanan
Now very sophisticated knee braces are available which can shift the weight of her body to the calf and this will give less stress on the knee in case she is over weight.
If she is lean and has arthritis then home remedy would be to apply gingely oil and give a gentle massage and leave it for a few minutes before washing it with warm water.
Any way first consult any good physician in your area and find out the cause.
Regards
ramanan
Hello Raman
she is 68 kg in weight
height is 5 feet 3
we consulted Doc , they said it may be due to low calcium gel in the joints
in old age they said this happens as the lubricant between the joints is over, due to which it causes
bone friction when they walk and this causes pain
she is 68 kg in weight
height is 5 feet 3
we consulted Doc , they said it may be due to low calcium gel in the joints
in old age they said this happens as the lubricant between the joints is over, due to which it causes
bone friction when they walk and this causes pain
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R V RAMANAN
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Hi tiger,
68 for 5.3 is a bit over weight but not too much. .Ask her to try this til oil remedy.
Regards
Ramanan
68 for 5.3 is a bit over weight but not too much. .Ask her to try this til oil remedy.
Regards
Ramanan
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KET
Tiger ji
I guess the findings of your mother's orth issue was clinical one...... was it substantiated with diagnostic tests?
To rule out RA..... did she was tested for antibodies for R.Arth.
58 yrs not that old for bones to wear & tear.... weight does not counted here for bones fragility... yes she should not put on weight as she is hyperensive..
Did she tested for blood levels for Vit D and Vit B12... and MRI of knee?
Is she with psyio on life style exercise settings?
Give me feedback
Regds
I guess the findings of your mother's orth issue was clinical one...... was it substantiated with diagnostic tests?
To rule out RA..... did she was tested for antibodies for R.Arth.
58 yrs not that old for bones to wear & tear.... weight does not counted here for bones fragility... yes she should not put on weight as she is hyperensive..
Did she tested for blood levels for Vit D and Vit B12... and MRI of knee?
Is she with psyio on life style exercise settings?
Give me feedback
Regds
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KET
On RA.... Arthritis resulting from rheumatic... i.e. body inability to produce certain chemicals which are essential for keep functioning of that part or organ etc...... a auto immune case..... deals with immunity or defense mechanism
When was last Vit D level test done... if it is more than year old... repeay the test now but please get your orth view and prescription for investigation tests
If you are asking your mom to go blood frack... you might as well do three tests with a single frack...
If RA tests is negative... than it is Ortho case, if. RA is positive. than it is Rheumatologist has to be followed
Check with orth...for Psycio settings for exercise... that can help furthet too in decreasing pain
If RA is negative... if your mom's knee pain intolerable.... check with orth for injs at weekly intervals at knee site.... pain will subside atleast for 6-9 mnths with exercise
Regds
When was last Vit D level test done... if it is more than year old... repeay the test now but please get your orth view and prescription for investigation tests
If you are asking your mom to go blood frack... you might as well do three tests with a single frack...
If RA tests is negative... than it is Ortho case, if. RA is positive. than it is Rheumatologist has to be followed
Check with orth...for Psycio settings for exercise... that can help furthet too in decreasing pain
If RA is negative... if your mom's knee pain intolerable.... check with orth for injs at weekly intervals at knee site.... pain will subside atleast for 6-9 mnths with exercise
Regds
l lysine amino 1000mg per day
vitamin D 5000iu per day
Glucosamine and Chondroitin...just get a high dose formula
krill oil or high potency fish oil
vitamin C 3000mg per day.
Lots and lots of green leafy vegetables like baby spinach and also have celery in abundance.
Fruits and veg to alkalize the body and reduce any acid pulling calcium from the bones.
For astrology remedies think capricorn and appease saturn also sun or father of saturn. Burn dark green and dark red candles as the moon increases dressing from top to base with olive oil that has been prayed over asking for gods healing power.
Hope this helps. Mum will be like a young girl again. Tell her not to go dancing again too quickly.
vitamin D 5000iu per day
Glucosamine and Chondroitin...just get a high dose formula
krill oil or high potency fish oil
vitamin C 3000mg per day.
Lots and lots of green leafy vegetables like baby spinach and also have celery in abundance.
Fruits and veg to alkalize the body and reduce any acid pulling calcium from the bones.
For astrology remedies think capricorn and appease saturn also sun or father of saturn. Burn dark green and dark red candles as the moon increases dressing from top to base with olive oil that has been prayed over asking for gods healing power.
Hope this helps. Mum will be like a young girl again. Tell her not to go dancing again too quickly.
From my western astrology knowledge capricorn rules the knees and saturn/shani. Maybe recite shani mantra every saturday until knee has improved. Might be a father or support issue for her. Either alive or now in the after life. Might be wise to make ancestral appeasement.
The other suggested remedies are not homeopathic or ayurvedic they are tried and true remedies to remove inflammation and rebuild the knee to good health. Your mum may not need all of them. I suggest you research these a little further yourself. Far as i know they are very safe. Vitamin D should be D3 not D2 form. Lysine, vitamin D3, vitamin C are generally very inexpensive. omega 3 fish oil and glucosamine have proven there worth also. These items you might find at your chemist or health food store without prescription from the doctor. Knees can heal slowly because we place weight on them often. The person that said about some brace made a good suggestion. I wish you and your mother the best of health. Take care.
The other suggested remedies are not homeopathic or ayurvedic they are tried and true remedies to remove inflammation and rebuild the knee to good health. Your mum may not need all of them. I suggest you research these a little further yourself. Far as i know they are very safe. Vitamin D should be D3 not D2 form. Lysine, vitamin D3, vitamin C are generally very inexpensive. omega 3 fish oil and glucosamine have proven there worth also. These items you might find at your chemist or health food store without prescription from the doctor. Knees can heal slowly because we place weight on them often. The person that said about some brace made a good suggestion. I wish you and your mother the best of health. Take care.
Here is the latest knee joint X Ray Report, of my mother
Bones show changes suggestive of osteoarthritis.
The joint spaces are diminished medially on both side.
No evidence of bone erosion or destruction seen
No abnormal soft tissue swelling or calcification seen.
No evidence of fracture or dislocation seen.
Bones show changes suggestive of osteoarthritis.
The joint spaces are diminished medially on both side.
No evidence of bone erosion or destruction seen
No abnormal soft tissue swelling or calcification seen.
No evidence of fracture or dislocation seen.
[quote="KET"]On RA.... Arthritis resulting from rheumatic... i.e. body inability to produce certain chemicals which are essential for keep functioning of that part or organ etc...... a auto immune case..... deals with immunity or defense mechanism
Hello
i consulted an Ortho Surgeon
he said , this is due to old age and with precautions she can walk normally without operation for another 10-15 years
he said avoid seating on floor, avoid putting pressure on knee joints ,not to bend knees, squat , sit cross legged , restrict climbing of stairs etc
he gave a course of painkillers for 10 days after that he gave a cream to apply on knee joint
and suggested these tabs T. ZINCAL 1000 ; T DURAJOINT 1000 , for 6 months daily although he said no major improvement will be seen
this can only be healed through precautions ,he said this is natural process , the damage is irreversible
I have also posted her latest xray reports
When was last Vit D level test done... if it is more than year old... repeay the test now but please get your orth view and prescription for investigation tests
If you are asking your mom to go blood frack... you might as well do three tests with a single frack...
If RA tests is negative... than it is Ortho case, if. RA is positive. than it is Rheumatologist has to be followed
Check with orth...for Psycio settings for exercise... that can help furthet too in decreasing pain
If RA is negative... if your mom's knee pain intolerable.... check with orth for injs at weekly intervals at knee site.... pain will subside atleast for 6-9 mnths with exercise
Regds[/quote]
Hello
i consulted an Ortho Surgeon
he said , this is due to old age and with precautions she can walk normally without operation for another 10-15 years
he said avoid seating on floor, avoid putting pressure on knee joints ,not to bend knees, squat , sit cross legged , restrict climbing of stairs etc
he gave a course of painkillers for 10 days after that he gave a cream to apply on knee joint
and suggested these tabs T. ZINCAL 1000 ; T DURAJOINT 1000 , for 6 months daily although he said no major improvement will be seen
this can only be healed through precautions ,he said this is natural process , the damage is irreversible
I have also posted her latest xray reports
When was last Vit D level test done... if it is more than year old... repeay the test now but please get your orth view and prescription for investigation tests
If you are asking your mom to go blood frack... you might as well do three tests with a single frack...
If RA tests is negative... than it is Ortho case, if. RA is positive. than it is Rheumatologist has to be followed
Check with orth...for Psycio settings for exercise... that can help furthet too in decreasing pain
If RA is negative... if your mom's knee pain intolerable.... check with orth for injs at weekly intervals at knee site.... pain will subside atleast for 6-9 mnths with exercise
Regds[/quote]
Yes the pineapple has bromelain and it is a protease enzyme that will digest inflamed tissue, scars and other tissue that needs removal before healthy tissue can grow. Serrapeptase is another similar very useful protease enzyme.
From Wiki:
Bromelain is an extract derived from the stems of pineapples, although it exists in all parts of the fresh plant and fruit, which has many uses. The extract has a history of folk and modern medicinal use. As a supplement it is thought to have anti-inflammatory effects. Bromelain also contains chemicals that, according to laboratory research,[1] might interfere with the growth of tumor cells and slow blood clotting. As a culinary ingredient it is used primarily as a tenderizer.
The term "bromelain" may refer to either of two protease enzymes extracted from the plants of the family, Bromeliaceae, or it may refer to a combination of those enzymes along with other compounds produced in an extract.
From Wiki:
Bromelain is an extract derived from the stems of pineapples, although it exists in all parts of the fresh plant and fruit, which has many uses. The extract has a history of folk and modern medicinal use. As a supplement it is thought to have anti-inflammatory effects. Bromelain also contains chemicals that, according to laboratory research,[1] might interfere with the growth of tumor cells and slow blood clotting. As a culinary ingredient it is used primarily as a tenderizer.
The term "bromelain" may refer to either of two protease enzymes extracted from the plants of the family, Bromeliaceae, or it may refer to a combination of those enzymes along with other compounds produced in an extract.
Can Mahayogaraj guggul be used in Osteoarthritis
[quote="R V RAMANAN"]Dear tiger,
Now very sophisticated knee braces are available which can shift the weight of her body to the calf and this will give less stress on the knee in case she is over weight.
If she is lean and has arthritis then home remedy would be to apply gingely oil and give a gentle massage and leave it for a few minutes before washing it with warm water.
Any way first consult any good physician in your area and find out the cause.
Regards
ramanan[/quote]
[quote="R V RAMANAN"]Dear tiger,
Now very sophisticated knee braces are available which can shift the weight of her body to the calf and this will give less stress on the knee in case she is over weight.
If she is lean and has arthritis then home remedy would be to apply gingely oil and give a gentle massage and leave it for a few minutes before washing it with warm water.
Any way first consult any good physician in your area and find out the cause.
Regards
ramanan[/quote]
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R V RAMANAN
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Dear Tiger,
Yes you can use that but first get an experts opinion.
Regards
ramanan
Yes you can use that but first get an experts opinion.
Regards
ramanan
Please also be aware that Chondroitin is typically made from non-vegetarian sources, just thought to mention this if your mother is vegetarian.
I remember, a few years ago, getting a lot of knee pain and was advised by MIL to wrap fresh cabbage leaves over the knees with some gauze before going to bed. It actually worked for me to reduce the pain levels considerably.
Boswellia serrata, known as shallaki in India is also a anti-inflammatory specifically for athritis. Turmeric with some milk, at bedtime might also offer relief.
OP, as Ramanan sir has advised, please check with experts.
I remember, a few years ago, getting a lot of knee pain and was advised by MIL to wrap fresh cabbage leaves over the knees with some gauze before going to bed. It actually worked for me to reduce the pain levels considerably.
Boswellia serrata, known as shallaki in India is also a anti-inflammatory specifically for athritis. Turmeric with some milk, at bedtime might also offer relief.
OP, as Ramanan sir has advised, please check with experts.
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KET
Tiger ji
How is yout father now with Vishnusasranamam chantimg.. though it is early to ask... but still
For your mother... would like to see het chart and houses and Saturn, Mars and moon postn apart from Sun
From xray rrport...it is OA... check again level of Vit D and B12
Since effusion in bone not seen... seek from orth... injs of steriod at a phased manner.... inflammation and pain will be reducef... she can walk better.... Orth analysis on her impnt
Ler me assess her chart for astro remedies apart from medical points
How is yout father now with Vishnusasranamam chantimg.. though it is early to ask... but still
For your mother... would like to see het chart and houses and Saturn, Mars and moon postn apart from Sun
From xray rrport...it is OA... check again level of Vit D and B12
Since effusion in bone not seen... seek from orth... injs of steriod at a phased manner.... inflammation and pain will be reducef... she can walk better.... Orth analysis on her impnt
Ler me assess her chart for astro remedies apart from medical points
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KET
Tiger
You had communicated to me your father does daily Shiv abhisekam at home.. Very good.
I suggest your dad do panchakavyam abhisekam on shivlingam, Nandi on Sunday, Monday,Thurs,and Saturday
Pancha kavyam is Ghomutra(cowurine),Ghomayam(cowdung),Ghosheram(cowmilk),Ghodadhi(cowcurd),kavyajyam(cowghee) with Dharbha grass water...
Mix the above contents in Dharbhagrass water and ask your father to do abhisekam. After abhisekam.. the resultant abhiseked panchakavyam.. ask your dad and mom to take it as prasad and swallow. When I say Prasad means.. it should be consumed in little quantity.
Ghourine stands for.. Varuna devata, Ghomayam...Agni devata,Ghosheram..Moon,Ghodadhi..vayu devata,Ghoyajyam... Sun posited during abhisekam on lord Shiva
Mantra to be chanted during intake of Panchakavyam is below
Please note seek priest guidance or Guru who can chant the below mantra... mantra with wrong pronounciation will have diff meaning
Yath twak astikadam papam deh yehe dista dee mamake
Prasanam panchakavyahasya tha hathvaknerivedandanam
Meaning.....my distree because of any papam , my skin apart from till bone penetrated papam, that papam my intake of this panchakavyam should be mitigated
Bhayo dharithra nasaya dhadi putradi vartanam
Ghomutram papanasaya ghomayam roga nasanam
Krudam mokshapradam kneyam pancha kavya balam labeth
Meaning.... in the panchakavyam, intake, dharithram will be removed by ghomilk,ghocurd will enhance progeny prospects in the family,ghomutram will remove papam, ghodung will remove diseases, ghoghee will enhances wisdom..
Regds
Before chanting mantas.. please get training from Guru or well learned priest
You had communicated to me your father does daily Shiv abhisekam at home.. Very good.
I suggest your dad do panchakavyam abhisekam on shivlingam, Nandi on Sunday, Monday,Thurs,and Saturday
Pancha kavyam is Ghomutra(cowurine),Ghomayam(cowdung),Ghosheram(cowmilk),Ghodadhi(cowcurd),kavyajyam(cowghee) with Dharbha grass water...
Mix the above contents in Dharbhagrass water and ask your father to do abhisekam. After abhisekam.. the resultant abhiseked panchakavyam.. ask your dad and mom to take it as prasad and swallow. When I say Prasad means.. it should be consumed in little quantity.
Ghourine stands for.. Varuna devata, Ghomayam...Agni devata,Ghosheram..Moon,Ghodadhi..vayu devata,Ghoyajyam... Sun posited during abhisekam on lord Shiva
Mantra to be chanted during intake of Panchakavyam is below
Please note seek priest guidance or Guru who can chant the below mantra... mantra with wrong pronounciation will have diff meaning
Yath twak astikadam papam deh yehe dista dee mamake
Prasanam panchakavyahasya tha hathvaknerivedandanam
Meaning.....my distree because of any papam , my skin apart from till bone penetrated papam, that papam my intake of this panchakavyam should be mitigated
Bhayo dharithra nasaya dhadi putradi vartanam
Ghomutram papanasaya ghomayam roga nasanam
Krudam mokshapradam kneyam pancha kavya balam labeth
Meaning.... in the panchakavyam, intake, dharithram will be removed by ghomilk,ghocurd will enhance progeny prospects in the family,ghomutram will remove papam, ghodung will remove diseases, ghoghee will enhances wisdom..
Regds
Before chanting mantas.. please get training from Guru or well learned priest
