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For use of the concept of Drishti in the Vargas, there are numerous references in the classics. Parashara, for example, states that in the Karkamsha chart, the Sun and Rahu placed together and aspected by Mars, bereft of any other aspect, ruin the native’s houses, whereas these two together aspected by Mercury alone cause no harm.

Similarly, in the Saaravali, Drishti Phaladhyaaya, Kalyan Verma describes result of mutual Drishti of Aun, Mercury and Venus.

This all suggests us that the term Drishti is not merely confined to the basic chart only. They apply Drishti to divisional charts too and therefore, state effect of Drishti in various charts including Vergas.

The Saravali reveals that all rules and regulations relevant to the lagna chart are applicable to the Dwadashamsha chart. This means that this varga is equivalent to the lagna chart, and the two should be treated alike in respect of placement, aspect and relationship of planets.

TO BE CONTINUED..........
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In the Brihat Jatakam, Chapter I, Shloka 6, Varaha mentions:
That in all the divisional charts the rashi lordship of planets remains intact, so that the treatment attributed to rashi
must be given in the divisional charts also.

Varaha Mihira states that Saturn and Venus exchanging houses in the navamsha or mutually aspecting in the navamsha (e.g., Saturn in Vrisha and Venus in Kumbha in the navamsha, or Venus-Saturn conjunct in any of the signs Vrisha, Tula, Makara, Kumbha) make the native highly sensual.

Some modern-day astrologers have started questioning the relevance of application of the concepts of Drishti in the Vargas or divisional charts. The sages and Acharyas are very clear in advocating that the rules of Drishti are as relevant to the divisional charts as they are to the lagna chart.

TO BE CONTINUED.................
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Daily effect through Nakshatra

Following are the six nakshatras (reckoned from janma nak.) highly relevant in daily transit. If any of these is hurt, it may result in distress as follows:

1. Janma- Natal nakshatra- distress;
2. Karma- 09 th- troubles, hurdles;
3. Saamghatika- 15 th- great loss;
4. Saamudaayika- 17 th- undesirable effect;
5. Aadhana- 18 th- lack of home comforts;
6. Vainashika- 22 th- physical disorder, confrontation with nearer.

TO BE CONTINUED...............
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Dear Khoo ji,
I am responding to Dr. Suresh Chandra's tid bits on user request regarding treating Vargas as Rashi:
Khoo Hock Leong wrote:Parashara, for example, states that in the Karkamsha chart, the Sun and Rahu placed together and aspected by Mars, bereft of any other aspect, ruin the native’s houses, whereas these two together aspected by Mercury alone cause no harm
1. Atmakarak is a Jaimini concept and so is Karakamsa, so here any drishti/aspect mentioned is Rashi drishti. Whether one uses Karakamsa Lagna in Navamsa itself or interpolates it to Rashi chart the drishti/aspect will remain Rashi otherwise one is mixing systems. So in this case considering Graha drishti in Vargas is incorrect.
Khoo Hock Leong wrote:Similarly, if a planet aspect first bhava of Lagna chart or Dreshkona or Navamsha or Dwadamsha or any other main divisional chart than also that planet becomes best karaka.
2. There are no Bhavas and Drishti in Vargas and the above translation is corrupt (as it mentions Bhavas) as well as incomplete. This is probably Dr. Suresh's own modified version. I am posting the screenshot of the actual Sloka below:
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2a. The Sloka is talking about degrees of a planet (without explicitly stating it) for the ease of the Astrologer. All this Sloka means is if a Planet is very close to Ascendant degrees in the Ascendant or the 7th house (from which it aspects the Ascendant) then a Raj Yoga is formed. This is because we know a planet close to Ascending degrees has greater impact. Please create any chart with a planet conjunct Ascending degrees in 1st house or 7th house and you will see it shows up in rising of all Shadvargas or 7th from it i.e. it has much impact on the native. When the Sloka says "aspecting by one and same planet" it means from the 7th house aspecting (in Rashi only) the Ascendant. This is because Lagna falls in some Navamsa, Drekkana, Trimsamsa, Hora, Dwadasmsa but all these amsas are still in the Rashi Chart only. In fact they exist at the exact Ascending degrees which is what is aspected by a planet from 7th with an exact aspect. I can add an example if required.

2b. Notice the Sloka also says "Full, Partial, one fourth " aspect which is one of the "incomplete" parts not included by Dr. Suresh. Now, how can there be a "Partial OR one fourth" aspect in Vargas? People who consider aspects in divisional "charts" have no choice but the consider only "Full" aspect. So obviously it is talking about aspect in Rashi.

2c. Another "incomplete" part that Dr. Suresh skipped (included in the Screenshot earlier) is Sri Santhanam's comment on the Sloka where he says: Aspects are referred to in the divisional charts here. I am unable to fully conceive the logic in aspects in divisional charts for the sage himself referred to longitudinal aspectual evaluations in an earlier chapter.Without commenting further on this controversial aspect I leave it at that, accepting my limitations to explain this fully.
The controversy here is that Parashara is contradicting himself. In any case, the actual meaning is explained above and Parashara is NOT contradicting himself.

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Khoo Hock Leong wrote:Similarly, in the Saaravali, Drishti Phaladhyaaya, Kalyan Verma describes result of mutual Drishti of Aun, Mercury and Venus.
3. Saravali is a compilation of various Rishi horas . Now we all know the great Rishi Viswamitra. Here is story of such Astronomically impossible aspects (in the present Era) which Dr. Suresh has not considered or doesn't know about.

In the times of yore, when Viswamitra began to have a fierce competition with Vashistha, the son of Brahma, he perfomed a terrible penace. He was desirous of becoming equal to him. One time, when he was engaged in austerities, Narada approached him and was formally welcomed by him. When Narada was seated on a beautiful seat then, upon being asked by him (Viswamitra), with a smiling face, Narada told him about the latest happenings. If Viswamitra desires to attain equality with Vasishtha, then first and foremost, he must compose a detailed Hora text. Our guru (Vasishtha) has written an elaborate Hora text. (If he wants to compete Vasishtha, then) the other (Viswamitra) should first write a Hora text that is is as much elaborate (as Vasishtha Hora). I have seen a few people wearing tiger skin and carrying walking sticks, sitting outside Vasishtha's ashrama and talking with each other in this way. I do not know about any other new happenings which you should hear of. After listening to these words of his, the great minded Vishwamitra (said): I have heard that the Hora of Vasishtha has eighteen thousand Slokas. If the Vasishtha Hora is only this large, what is so great about it? If you agree, I will compose another Hora which will shed light on all kinds of results. It will have thirty six thousand Slokas.

Having listened to these words of his, Narada smiled and again said the following to him, who wanted to compete but was not capable of it. O the one observing good vows! I don't know how you are going to implement this task, because you don't know the Jyotishmati vidya like Vasishtha. In the appendices of Atharva Veda, there is a great upanishad. Right now, it is known to Brahma and Prajapati Daksha, Marichi, Angiras, Atri, Vasishtha, Pulaha, Pulastya, Bhrigu, Kratu and no one else. Lord Skanda, who acquired the knowledge of this text himself (through meditation), pleased with the penace of Brahma, granted it to him. It is the same text which a few people of the Satya Loka call Skanda Hora. Brahma gave it to his son Daksha since he was very dear to him. Prompted by love for his brothers, he gave it to others. But he did not gave it to me (even though I was also his brother) since I roam around (and do not stay in one place). If you are able to learn it from somewhere then your vow shall be fulfilled and your deeds will be completed. May you have wellness in all ways. I have rested. Having said this and having taken his leave, saga Narada stood up. How can I acquire the Jyotishmati knowledge? From where can I get it? Thinking in this way, Viswamitra stood there with an anxious mind.

While he was in this state and fifteen days had elapsed, some old Brahmin arrived there with a book in his hands. Kaushika (Viswamitra) worshipped him by offering water to drink and water to wash his feet etc and said :- Please be seated and gave up his seat for him. After accepting his worship, he waited for a muhurta (48 min approx) to get rid of his tiredness from traveling, and then said the following. I found this great upanishadic text named Jyotishmati while I was traveling on the road and had been sitting in the roots of a tree somewhere. I do not know what topic is discussed in this book. I know only the name of this book by looking at the ending of the chapters. What shall I do with this book? I will give it to you, a learned Brahmin, if you agree. Hearing these words of his, Vishwamitra was very pleased. After he left, he took the book in hand and looked at it. Considering this to be an event destined for the future, he collected those pages which had been randomly arranged, and bound them at one place them with threads. Viswamitra did a lot of hard work (to arrange the text which) contained beautiful words at some places and grave words at other places. It contained sweet words at all other places.

This text came to be known as Kaushiki Hora in due course of time. It contained thirty six thousand Slokas. That Hora (i.e. Viswamitra hora) was not fully correct because of Viswamitra's jealousy towards the lustrous and calm son of Brahma named sage Vasishtha. Moreover, he composed Viswamitra hora without knowning Ganita Skanda. Therefore, the next deviated from reality at some places, not all.

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In this way, by finding the text to be correct at some places and incorrect at some other places, the disciples of Vasishtha began to laugh this is what we have heard (says sage Sounaka). Thus it became well known that that disciples of Vasishtha as well as some other people are laughing after looking at the Hora text created by Viswamitra. Listening to it, Viswamitra was troubled and was thinking about it on the road when Maya, the disciple of Sun, appeared. From him he came to know that some things (he had mentioned in his text) were impossible according to the rules of planetary motion. He lamented saying my words have become untrue. He concluded - This is cannot be the true Jyotishmati knowledge, some disciple of Vasishtha has handed it over to me to fool me. Regaining his equanimity, he made a resolution - "I will make the planets move as I have mentioned in my text."

With a rigid resolution and with breath under control, he began to perform a severe penance. The entire world (became too hot and thus) was miserable because of his penance. During this time, Lord Vishnu, being requested by Gods including Brahma and Shiva appeared in front of him. He said to him, O Sage! What is your resolution? Tell me. I will fulfill it. With folded hands he (Viswamitra) said to him: O Lord! O Janardana! If you have come to grant me a boon, then grant me this one boon even if it is a childish one, O Hari! Going by whatever conclusions, even if they are false, whatever I have stated in my text, let the planets move according to that. If you are pleased with this long penance of mine, then grant me this much in my first boon. Also listen to me about what else (I want). Those who reject my sayings considering them wrong, let their words lose significance. Let this desire of mine be fulfilled. (My next wish is) - Even though my words (told in Viswamitra Hora) are false, if someone speaks the same with confirmed trust that it is true, then his words should gain repute and fame in the world (and he should not be ridiculed). Grant me these three boons. Without doubt you have come to grants me boons. You are extolled by the rishis by all their might.

Upon being said so, the lotus eyed lord said: Dear great one! Throw away this ignorance. Not a single untruthful word came out of you. (It being so, now) What you have to do with the motion of planets such as Surya (Chandra, Mars...) etc... The way in which you have ascertained the motion of the planets in your Hora, the planets moved according to that in some previous kalpa. They will also have that motion in a future kalpa (as well), but not in this kalpa. If it is so, what wrong has fallen upon your text? Oh! the one who has his senses in control! (If) People with sincere minds, who know this difference at the present time and (if they) do not accept your words, how can they obstruct you? (i.e. since you have your senses in control, you should not be bothered about those people.) Those who consider your text to be not fully correct in this kalpa, but to be fully accurate (if we consider) the past and future kalpas as well, let them accept your entire text. Let them spread it without any obstruction. Let this happen because of your love for me and my favour on you. I grant you this as the second boon. By the third boon, since I have been made indebted to you, let the pure Jyotishmati knowledge appear in your mind along with its meaning. Let also the motion of the planets in the past and future (appear in your mind). In this way, granting him three very dear boons and talking to him, (Vishnu) took his leave and vanished there itself. When the lord had disappeared, even though in this text there were discrepancies with the present motions of the planets at some places.

After ensuring that the correctness of his statements does not get destroyed, after seeing the past and the future motion of the planets by divine eyes, Viswamitra was very pleased by the boon he had obtained by his penance. The pure Jyotishmati knowledge shone in his inner mind in pure form, with its pure meaning, without obstruction, every moment. His words, even if they mentioned something which was not possible, were accepted by lots of knowledgeable people and writers of tantras, by minimal slandering, for the sake of the spreading of their own tantras/works (because Vishnu has blessed that if anyone quotes Viswamitra Hora, then his words will became popular; and people want their own text to be popular; and therefore quotes from Viswamitra hora). (Sage sounaka says) So I have followed this dharma of theirs at some places (and provided some unrealistic combinations at some places, such as the Vajradaya yogas). I have told you the truth. Let there be no misgivings in you. Whatever I tell you, you should all hear all of it with a pleasant mind.
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The above explains the impossible combinations mentioned in Compilations (because they are compilations of various Rishi Horas), such impossible combinations are not found in regular Rishi Horas (obviously they are in Viswamitra's). One can now make out why even if such combinations are mentioned, they are not to be applied in Vargas.
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Khoo Hock Leong wrote:In the Brihat Jatakam, Chapter I, Shloka 6, Varaha mentions:
That in all the divisional charts the rashi lordship of planets remains intact, so that the treatment attributed to rashi
must be given in the divisional charts also.
4. Where is this mentioned in Saravali? I couldn't find it. And if it is and I missed it, it is not mentioned the way Dr. Suresh puts it. I am pretty sure this is either non existent or Dr. Suresh's own version/interpretation.

Side Note: I don't remember finding the word "regulation" so far in English version of Brihat Jatakam. Hence this is most likely Dr. Suresh's own take (not in line with the actual text).
Khoo Hock Leong wrote:The Saravali reveals that all rules and regulations relevant to the lagna chart are applicable to the Dwadashamsha chart. This means that this varga is equivalent to the lagna chart, and the two should be treated alike in respect of placement, aspect and relationship of planets.
5. This is mentioning about Sign lordship (as Dr. Suresh himself says Rashi Lordship) which of course is the same because this is Chapter 1 where Mihir is writing the basics. This is NOT House lordship in Vargas. And nowhere it says to treat Divisions as Rashi chart. This seems to be Dr. Suresh's own addition. All it is saying for e.g. is if Mars is in Pisces Dwadasamsa then Mars-Pisces (Planet-Sign only NOT House) sookshma result can be told in matters of Dwadasmsa.

Note: Varaha Mihira goes on to talk about impossible Astronomical combinations and discards their results several times saying they are impossible (such as Sun aspecting Mercury/Venus or Mercury aspecting Venus and vice versa). If they were applicable in Vargas why would he discard them? Anybody who has read Brihat Jatakam knows this. Still, he too included them (impossible combinations) because Brihat Jatakam is also a compilation of various Rishi Horas and not a Rishi Hora itself.

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Khoo Hock Leong wrote:Varaha Mihira states that Saturn and Venus exchanging houses in the navamsha or mutually aspecting in the navamsha (e.g., Saturn in Vrisha and Venus in Kumbha in the navamsha, or Venus-Saturn conjunct in any of the signs Vrisha, Tula, Makara, Kumbha) make the native highly sensual.
6. Incorrect translation, it says exchanging each other Navamsas NOT houses. The actual translation is below in the screenshot. Note it says exchanging Navamsas AND aspecting each other. This is impossible to occur at the same time so obviously Mihir is talking about aspecting each other in Rashi while exchanging Navamsa. Dr. Suresh seems to be using his own modified version and making a conclusion.
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I will also start a new thread and add these posts so they are available independently. One who has any doubts about using Vargas as Rashi should now be clear I hope.

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Thanks Rathore.
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A Nakshatra is hurt indeed when it is:

• Occupied at once by Sun and Saturn;
• Pierced by ( deep conjunct with) retrograde Mars or Moon;
• During eclipse, occupied by Sun or Moon as the case may be;
• Occupied by Ketu;
• Receiving Latta (kicked by) a malefic, i.e., 12 the from the Sun’s nakshatra, 3 rd from Mars’, 8th from Saturn, 9 th from Rahu’s nakshatra;

TO BE CONTINUED........
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Nakshatra hurt disburses its inauspicious effect within days equal to the number of stars of the Nakshatra.
In case of marriage, days, fixed thus, are to be considered as years, states Varah Mihira.

For the number of stars, please refer to the page no. 118 of Mishra’s Indian Ephemeris, 2013.

Remedy for the said evil

Serving, watering, to move around (Parikrama), planting or preserving limbs of the same of the following tree mitigate the evil of hurt nakshatra.
The following remedy could also be very useful for your natal nakshatra in general. For sake of brevity, the serial no. of nakshatras is cited here:

1. Banana tree;
2. Banana / Amla;
3. Goolar;
4. Jaamun;
5. Khair or Kattha;
6. Mango / Belpatra tree;
7. Bamboo;
8. Peepal;
9. Sandal; contd.
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contd. from our yesterday’s post
10. Vata (oak tree);
11. Dhaak;
12. Vata (oak tree);
13. Reetha;
14. Bel;
15. Arjuna;
16. Neem;
17. Maulshree;
18. Reetha;
This is according to sage Narada and Aacharya Lalla. contd.
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contd. from our yesterday’s post

19. Raber plant;
20. Jaamun;
21. Kathal;
22. Aak;
23. Semar;
24. Kadamb;
25. Mango;
26. Peepal;
27. Mahua.
This is according to sage Narada and Aacharya Lalla.
however I do not know their botanical names.
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In spite of having good potent yogas at birth:

Ailment or heavy stress ensues, when natal moon is in-

• I pada of hasta, dhanishtha, shlesha & U.bhadra;
• II pada of Ardra, Vishakha, Mool &Bharani;
• III pada of U.bhadra, shlesha, U. Phalguni, Shravana;
• IV pada of Bharani, moola, swati, Mrigshira.
• The above dispositions are highly malefic during day time birth, mediocre during dawn and dusk and no malefic at night time.
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A specific nakshatra coinciding with a particular tithi forms Jwalamukhi (volcanic) Yoga:
• Pratipada with Moola;
• Panchami with Bharani;
• Shashthi with Krittika;
• Navami with Rohini;
• Dashami with Shlesha.

This sort of yoga manifests obstacles in survival, at Muhurtha, travel for a specific cause and any type of construction.

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Like Grahas, nakshatras also become combust when their rising and setting times coincide with the same of the Sun.

Therefore, following the three nakshatras are weak because of obtaining blemish of combustion:

1. Occupied by sun, 2. The preceded one 3. The next one.

The following nakshatras never become combust as they remain far northward from the ecliptic. Therefore, they rise long before the sunrise and set long after the sunset:
Swati, Abhijit, Shravana, Dhanishtha, U.Bhadrapada

Hence the above are exempted from the blemish of combustion.

Generally, Sun curtails the good of the house, it occupies. But Sun in the above-mentioned nakshatras hesitates to cut short good effects of that house.

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It is a matter of great pleasure that people nowadays are much aware about astrological calculations shown in Panchanga/ Ephemeris.

Today I encountered with an intelligent query regarding Karana, one of the components of Panchanga.
The man wanted to get confirmation whether a karana ends exactly when the moon is advanced by 6° or calculated by bifurcated Tithimaana.

I submit:
• A karana precisely ends when moon gains distance of 6° from sun.
• The picture does not change much either we divide Tithi in to two equal parts or wait for moon to obtain 6° distance from sun.
• Generally timing in ephemeris is rounded off in a complete digit of minute, if that in seconds remains above 30 seconds or more. The classics advise in this respect ‘Ardham ½ Roopavat 1’ and the difference appearing thus, will be limited to one minute around.
• Today on Sept. 13,2013, Bava karana as well as the tithi 8 ends at 9:34:41 hrs with Sun- 26°29’24’’, moon- 02° 29’24’’ maintaining 6° distance.
• The next karan, i.e., Balava will end when moon moves further 6° away from sun, i.e., 20,27,21 (sept.13, 2013,20:27:21hrs.) having sun at 26°55’53’’ and moon at 08°55’53’’ in the next rashi (precisely 12° away). Karan ,thus as a matter of rule, keeps maintaining the same distance.
• However, taking tithimaan in to account, end of 8 tithi- 09:35 hrs. end of tithi 9-07:17 hrs. next day, hence the extension of tithi is 21hours 42 minutes, adding a half of it to the previous end of Karan gives us time- 20:26 hrs. and the same obtained through longitudes appears to be 20:27 revealing minor difference of 1 minute 21 seconds. This minor difference will be limited to 1-1.5 minute only practically making no considerable difference.
• The reason is that obtaining the most precise longitude of moon, because of its swiftly varying motion, is an uphill task. therefore,a minor difference in minutes in moon's longitude is condoned by Aacharyas.


Younger brothers of Rajayogas

All seven or almost planets in the following group of houses/ rashis (as mentioned below) are treated as Rajayoga of a little lower grade.
Persons having several planets (more than 4/7) in the said group of rashis/houses earn good recognition, skill, name and goodwill in his chosen field of work.

• Shayani yoga (comfortable bedding) - planets continuously in houses 1-5;
• Agra yoga (advanced)- planets continuously in houses 10-2;
• Kanakdanda yoga (stick of gold)- planets in 1,2,7,12 rashis;
• Damaru ,, (beating instrument of Lord Shiva) - planets in 2,3,8,9 rashis;
• Damaruta ,, (beating instrument) - planets in 5,6,11,12 rashis;
• Puccha ,,(tail) - planets in 10,8 rashis;
• Chatuh Sagara (four oceans)- planets in 1,4,7,10 rashis;
• Rajahamsa- (king swan)planets in 1,3,5,7,11 rashis;
• Dolika (a swing)- planets in 1,2,12 rashis;
• Griddha Puccha(tail of egale)- planets in 2,6,8,12 rashis;
• Chilha Puccha (tail of vulture)- planets in 3,4,5,9,10,11 rashis.

TO BE CONTINUED.................
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About Gajakesari yoga:

• This yoga does not only form with Moon & Jupiter.
• There are two kinds of this yoga, Kesari & Gajakesari yoga.
• Sun in the X or moon in IX from Jupiter forms the Kesari yoga.
• The latter one is not only formed with Jupiter falling in any Kendra from the Moon, but also with Mercury aspected by Moon or Jupiter aspected by/ associated with Mercury.

• The Moon or Jupiter in neecha or combustion cancels the Kesari as well as the Gajakesari yogas.

Now we have in this forum always talked about certain configurations between Moon and Mercury causing mental instability.......as I recall if either is placed 5th from the other (but this cancels if Jupiter aspects both in Navamsa according to Saptarishis Astrology Magazine).

If I recall, the other configuration is Moon associating with Mercury in angles (with no other natural benefics aspecting it?)..........

Some subtleties involve here................

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OKAY......Moon aspecting Mercury is good provided either one is not placed 5th from the other........

Associations are not aspects according Dr. Suresh defintion......and Moon associating with Mercury in angles is bad unless aspected by natural benefics or cancelled by Jupiter aspecting both in Navamsa ...............
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But note that association of a waning Moon with Mercury turns both to natural benefics whatever the case (even if Mercury associates with another natural malefic, which Moon associates with that natural malefic too) according to Parasara.

From Souvik's idea (through classics or informed interpretation) that a waning Moon is spiritual, the above precept should come as no surprise, because Mercury can be highly spiritual (spirituality is defined as imbibing spiritual practices while we are still living on Earth, and Mercury beats Jupiter to that under certain conditions).
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