Possibility for "normal" relationship

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Hi there! New on this forum. Just Wanted to do a simple question. 7th lord in eight house, in nakshatra of moola, conjoined with mercury, saturn, and Venus, (all in eight house). Second house sits jupiter in. Ketu in Third, and moon in elevenht. Venus and jupiter retrograde. Sun with rahu, ninth. Is there any possibility of harmonious relationship with partner, or is it all a impossible dream? I realise I've Always liket both sexets but Im a very conservativeperson and it seems im not very interested in witholding relationships, or just gave up on it long time ago. I guess the navamsa Also Holds a part of this. I got a Palm reading made. This one told me two children but Did never Mention a partner as a houseband. Many conservative and narrow minded people says the eight is evil, i see it as a kind of character. You dear more experienced astrologers out there what have you to say about this? I think its to do with some other blocks in the chart? Thanks you. Great love to you

[revribhav]

8th house is indeed an important house
Particularly for those who are not part of the crowd
Reply based on mere nakshatra shall be too vague.

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Thanks Revribhav for your reply." For those outside the crowd.. "you mean eight house people are often not Part of the Crowd? If so hm nice to know there are others like one self:) Whats the karma behind eighgt house? ive heard rahu and ketu might play a role in not wanting partnerships? How much does ketu rahu determine in this case? What could i give that would not be too vague? I dont want to post too much information here. Thanks again!

[revribhav]

You may post date,place and time of birth for a specific reply.
If the query pertains strictly to that of personal nature you may send PM

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I just sent you a pm:)

[revribhav]

8th is the house of risk
planet(s) therein cause circumstances
that prompts one to take the challenge.

Sometimes it is like do or die.

[vikram_ultimate]

Absolutely right revribhav sir,

8th house is not for the faint hearted that is what I feel ....the things that you face when everything falls on you is very difficult to digest

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So this is why relationships might feel like a bruden? Like... Its just another risk or challenge to take on? Need transformation to get whats in that house or knows that a dramatic transformation Will follow when having something from that house, eighter way? Is this on the right tack?

[revribhav]

Not exactly
Facing something like a burden or an opportunity is a matter of individual feeling.

Kabir,the most profound poet says in simple words,
"I feel glad my pitcher broke
I escaped the burden of filling it with water"

[vikram_ultimate]

Sorry for butting in but I feel that 8th house is intense transformation in the sense the feeling is forced upon the individual,no escape go through with the events then u will feel that a layer of your soul is removed and your soul emerges out stronger and your thinking about the same situation would have changed

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Revribhav; This is absolutely true that its a matter of perspective... It's a gift to accept this cycle of transformation...yeah that things can come in suddenly, but you know nothing will last. Ketu dasha though has been Heavy for me, i finishing of ketu dasha soon. Maybe this is contributing to my doubt. Vikram, I Think i understand what you mean, absolutely true, this is actually one of the more satisfying parts of it I feel: When you finished the process of breaking a layer. Your're not butting in. Do you also have planets in eight house?

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p.s i Liked the words of the poet:P its actually quite well descibing funny;)

[vikram_ultimate]

Hi Yes I do have planets 3 in number in 8th house in Aries

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Alright...I get qurious now, if you don't mind? Do you have seventh house lord in eight or Venus in the eight? Did you have or do you have any stable love relationship in your life? What have you experienced in that area? Sorry for if the questions areto intimate.

[revribhav]

There are positive effects of 7th L 8th H
It may indicate a richer partner,it may make one a fighter with a big cause
I feel I am one of such natives.

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... I realise now i probably started out this question Wrong with talking about eight house.I Should Instead have asked directly of indications of when a person wont get a life partner? Like.... Okey i Will put it out here. Ever since i saw my navamsa i felt sad. Because i saw rahu in first house and ketu in seventh house. What does this mean when you have it in navamsa but not in birth chart (what i heard about rahu in the first house - it makes me feel sick..) yes.. This is probably why i asked this in the first place.. Please explain...Thanks!

[revribhav]

The rasi chart is the basic chart of planetory positions
A navamsa is the ninth division of the above
It is an ideal position that 7th house remains vacant

Those who have a single planet (out of 9) in 7th
have to experience a peculiar effect in respect of 7th house

There is no person in the world who experiences a complete denial of 7th house
Some persons may however be denied of a marriage

There was a sage in India who,under vows of celibacy,according to mythology,
entered his soul into body of another person to be able to reply a spiritual discourse of a lady
after his initial victory was again challenged by the married lady, was outwitted by her

[vikram_ultimate]

Alright...I get qurious now, if you don't mind? Do you have seventh house lord in eight or Venus in the eight? Did you have or do you have any stable love relationship in your life? What have you experienced in that area? Sorry for if the questions areto intimate.

Hi Yes I have Venus in 8th house and no have had nothing regarding love life,infact I have been practising celibacy for a long time maybe because 7th lord is in 6th house for me

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I just don't wanna accept character of rahu in first house... I met a boy that had rahu in first in natal chartthat I dated for a while, but very soon I noticed how i experiences him being separated from us hanging out and he took time to smoke and have a coffee many times per day,, as if he coundnt live without it and needed space,though we didn't hang out that long each time.. I also remember he was fascinated by his own zodiac sign,western either me or him knew about vedic astrology by then. And he was much into health like herbal medicine, but chain smoked everyday. And I also noticed when I showed him a picture of my ex boyfriend he just: he looks like me, though he doesnt:/ and he was very interested in facial structures and told me I had the perfect face or something. Any ways. I accepted him but that behavior kind of reminded me maybe I also have been trouble with that behaviour? And is this behaviour what others experience me to be like? That i dnot wanna have now when ive seen it... but still can one beat it? though i dont have it in natal i kind of got reminded ive got a inner feeling, like frustration in relationships, like he acted on..I don't wanna be like that. Going on drugs to keep be the perfect personality, but not being able to keep up a "normal" relationship. My ex favorite singer Amy winehouse also had it in natal chart and well... It's just silly.hungry. I don't know. Well alright. Sorry for this long text. But like him having rahu in first in natal and me having rahu in first in navamsha? Would you say navamsha is more of an effect on my inner life or astral plane and natal rahu is more directed into physical manifestation?

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Vikram: nothing... Do you think seventh lord in sixth would make a relationship not good? Or you are not interested you feel? Or did you hear that youre doomed from an astrologer? or you just dont like partnership like family stuff etc:)Thanks!

[revribhav]

It is true many of the chain smokers have a strong rahu

It is also prominent with who wear black cloths
and those who speak lies but argue convincingly.

So far as relationship or friendship is concerned
5th house is distinguished from 7th

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Hi revrbhav! Thank you again:)
So 5th house/lord can help relationships...

In the Navamsha:
5th lord, Mars, sits with Sun in Gemini, 12th house.
In Sagittarius sits Venus(11th+4th), Moon(1st) and Jupiter(9th) together.
The 7th houselord Saturn sits in the 5th house, aspecting 7th, just as Mars does from the 12th house.

Concluding:
5th house lord and 7th house lord aspects the 7th house.
7th house lord sits in 5th house. 5th houselord sits in 12th house. 9th houselord sits in 6th with the benefics in his own sign.

Questions:
Would it be a good thing that Saturn and Mars aspects 7th house since they are the 5th and 7th house lords? (or:)
Would this Saturn and mars aspects mean that 7 house gets more damage? (plus:)
The Seventh lord in the fifth house, eventhough its Saturn, is this a good thing for relationships?

I see its much to interpret here... I hope its not overwhelming you(it does to me:P)
Thank you!

[vikram_ultimate]

Hi

To be frank I am not interested ,not that I dont want to get married at all,but I feel it is good to get married when u like a person's nature rather than just outward appearance,maybe thats why I havent been in one

[vikram_ultimate]

One more reason maybe because I have Ketu in 2nd house of family maybe thats one reason...

[revribhav]

A 5th lord in 12th aspecting 7th house may help one getting married or having long time association as a partner with someone at a distance.(12th is a place of distance).
Saturn aspect to a house,particualry when it is an unfriendly rasi may delay or put in cold storage for long time the benefic effects of that house.
However,the most peculiar thing of astrology is that planet's mature with our age,I found it that negative effects of ketu or saturn are not the same in my forties that used to be in youth.