do closeness to rising sign degree increases planet strength

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:o the classic text say that certain planet has deep exaltation points at certain degrees....but some new writers say the effectivness of a planet is increased if he is close to rising sign degrees....,so if a planet is exalted let say... Jupiter in 12degrees in cancer...and rising sign is 10 degree cancer...so will jupiter give better results here?..
Some writers like kapiel raaj(in his videos),V.K.Choudhry says this...
Some expert suggetion needed
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Strength?? I don't think so. You don't want to believe everything kapiel raaj says, he is still in learning mode and has already started writing books, so obviously you know he is going to write more books to correct what he has said in his earlier books. Currently, I think he is into Jaimini mode - fiddling around chara dasa and what nots...so don't take him very seriously, he is what I call 'commercial'.
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ok elipsisji...thanks for inputs...:)

But v.k choudhry,consider this..,
Just asking..
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You do realize there are a number of ways the planetary strength can be gauged? The rising sign degree is important because it helps you to determine your ascendants. But planetary strength has got nothing to do with planets being close to ascendant degree. Of course, planets in certain degrees can add to strength of a planet - exaltation, pushkar bhaaga, friendly nakshatra padas etc but I am yet to find an evidence that proves planets close to ascendant degree is going to be stronger....I don't see how that works, If you are born in Libra ascendant with Sun close to your rising degree will that add to strength of Sun?

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I think there's two different things here.

1. Planet at close to ascendent degree does not add strength to the planet.
2. However, being close to the ascendent degree does improve effectiveness.

Why?

Because, the closer it is to the Asc deg, the more are the chances of it being together in Varga charts. This same thing is just recently explained quite well in a different thread by Rathore - pl do look it up.

This same concept holds true when two planets are in sambandha due to aspect - the closer the orb, higher the impact.

A note of caution here.... do not mix up 'effective' to mean good.
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thank u so much chandralagnaji...and elipsisji for your inputs...
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elipsis wrote:Strength?? I don't think so. You don't want to believe everything kapiel raaj says, he is still in learning mode and has already started writing books, so obviously you know he is going to write more books to correct what he has said in his earlier books. Currently, I think he is into Jaimini mode - fiddling around chara dasa and what nots...so don't take him very seriously, he is what I call 'commercial'.

You don't say this to mean that there something wrong with Jaimini right? I take it that you mean he is constantly fluctuating between systems and finding his way with regards to vedic astrology. Just wanted to clarify.

He is very commercial. But that's what makes him appealing to westerners (which i believe is who he is catering to). All people will deviate and find their own paths based upon their karama and horoscope eventually right?
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hiimnotcool wrote:
elipsis wrote:Strength?? I don't think so. You don't want to believe everything kapiel raaj says, he is still in learning mode and has already started writing books, so obviously you know he is going to write more books to correct what he has said in his earlier books. Currently, I think he is into Jaimini mode - fiddling around chara dasa and what nots...so don't take him very seriously, he is what I call 'commercial'.

You don't say this to mean that there something wrong with Jaimini right? I take it that you mean he is constantly fluctuating between systems and finding his way with regards to vedic astrology. Just wanted to clarify.

He is very commercial. But that's what makes him appealing to westerners (which i believe is who he is catering to). All people will deviate and find their own paths based upon their karama and horoscope eventually right?
There is nothing wrong with any system of astrology (even western astrology), each one brings their share of knowledge and experience to the masses. If you've read kapeil's books - he starts off by criticizing different forms of astrology, how much experience do you think he has in order to make such far fetched claims? The answer is absolutely nil.

When you commercialize divine sciences you will never understand the basis of it. This is why many astrologers in India fall short of achievements, they become one of those money grubbing fools who control the strings of anxious and ignorant people of the society (India has many). To really learn astrology- you have to be very inquisitive, resourceful and must have a very intense desire to know the truth. After all, astrology did not originate from any person, it came directly from God - when man was in his deepest misery, this science came to his aid so that he can change the course of his future.

If you want to learn anything for that matter you have learn only in its truest spirit and never belittle it by attaching some nasty clauses to it.

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I agree with your rising degree in Asc plays significant role

Regarding planetary strength becomes secondary

If Asc rising degree is issue.... one also have to look into Moon lagna for more clarity..... again I am saying clarity

Varga charts and its rising degree will depend on many matters..... but asc in Lg and its degree more important

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hiimnotcool wrote:
elipsis wrote:Strength?? I don't think so. You don't want to believe everything kapiel raaj says, he is still in learning mode and has already started writing books, so obviously you know he is going to write more books to correct what he has said in his earlier books. Currently, I think he is into Jaimini mode - fiddling around chara dasa and what nots...so don't take him very seriously, he is what I call 'commercial'.

You don't say this to mean that there something wrong with Jaimini right? I take it that you mean he is constantly fluctuating between systems and finding his way with regards to vedic astrology. Just wanted to clarify.

He is very commercial. But that's what makes him appealing to westerners (which i believe is who he is catering to). All people will deviate and find their own paths based upon their karama and horoscope eventually right?
There is nothing wrong with any system of astrology (even western astrology), each one brings their share of knowledge and experience to the masses. If you've read kapeil's books - he starts off by criticizing different forms of astrology, how much experience do you think he has in order to make such far fetched claims? The answer is absolutely nil.

When you commercialize divine sciences you will never understand the basis of it. This is why many astrologers in India fall short of achievements, they become one of those money grubbing fools who control the strings of anxious and ignorant people of the society (India has many). To really learn astrology- you have to be very inquisitive, resourceful and must have a very intense desire to know the truth. After all, astrology did not originate from any person, it came directly from God - when man was in his deepest misery, this science came to his aid so that he can change the course of his future.

If you want to learn anything for that matter you have learn only in its truest spirit and never belittle it by attaching some nasty clauses to it.

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If a rising sign is say at very late - 28-29 degree,
would planets that are at 1-3 degrees be considered as having close degree to the ascendant? Since the ascendant is almost at 1-3 of the next sign?


And as for Kapiel's videos, I find the better (if only) ones to truly learn from are his interviews with other astrologers.
Though Kapiel can't be saying too much incorrectly, if he has KN Rao agreeing to do an interview with him soon.
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I would not recommend kapil raj's videos. there are fundamental mistakes in them. its just like some private insurance company selling their plain vanila products with aggressive marketing..
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ketji..,elipsisji thanks for your inputs...EM!

Gne..
Yes they must be considered close to ascendent degree...
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And guys plz post your experiance on my question..,not on kapiel raaj...lolz.. :mrgreen:
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