Singer with a debilitated Venus?

[Red]

Hi guys,

I have been a fan of Beyoncé for so long. I love her voice and the way she performs..

A singer must have a strong Venus, right? In her case, she has a debilitated Venus in 3rd house...

But, her 2nd lord is in 2nd house and 3rd lord is in 3rd house. So, did those alone give her the ability to sing and made her an entertainer?
But what about the deb., Venus?
So, a strong 2nd and 3rd house is all enough to make one a singer?

Her birth details: Sep 4, 1981..... 4:37 AM.... Houston, Texas, USA.

Regards,
red.

[lnmurthy9]

Hello,
These are my observations on this chart for the time given:
venus though debiliated,conjunct with friendly mercury and jupiter who expands the significations and functionalities related to the planet it touches.
2nd and 3rd house lords are in their own respective houses,This is one good hint that the native will be into music.
Also four planets joined in third house,my personal observation is whenever three or more planets occupy a house,there will be lot to deal with that house in predicting such charts.So third house of showmanship is stressing on this chart more.
I dont know how accurate this time given to further go deep into divisional charts.

[basab14]

Hello Red,

Immurthy has done a wonderful analysis of the chart. I agree with you that her Venus is debiliated, but I have seen charts of people in professions signified by Venus having debiliated Venus in their charts. One example is Amitabh Bacchan. He has debiliated Venus in the 8th house in his chart and still he is one of the most successful and finest actors in Bollywood.

[Red]

HI Murthy,

Thanks for the observation.
I really appreciate it.

red.

[Red]

Hi Yellow,

Yeah...i agree with you. My friend always tells me that in spite of his dad having a debilitated Venus, he's a great singer.
But, Venus, her 11L in debilitation has made her earn money through a profession it signifies.
I think there's something more to it.
Like one gentleman said to me "well celebrity charts don't make sense a lot of times"

red.

[viduna2000]

Hello Red,
There are certain thumb rules in Jyotish with which you can visualize the power and status of person before even going into Dasas or ishta phala etc..

Conjunction of 3rd,6th,8th and 12th lords in 3rd,6th,8th or 12th houses is a greatest Raja yoga one can imagine in whole of Astrology. This is a mystical,very rare and strong Maharaja yoga. An individual is purely blessed by God because it is very difficult to have this combination. Five individuals with five Panch Mahapurush Yoga jointly cannot defeat a person who has this one single VPR yoga conjunction.You could imagine the power of VPR yoga yourself. You cannot find this information documented in any scriptures. But it is absolutely true. Here 3rd lord being evil lord works well with 6th,8th,12th lords who actually cause VPR yoga. Only negative aspect is that coborn will die.

Atmakaraka exalted or AK conjoining an Exalted planet definitely show a Maha Raja Yoga.

Position of planets in 10th and 11th from Moon will definitely show the status of the person. It is very good to have Sun in 10th/11th from Moon.

Coming to her singing abilities,In D9 Sun is in trines from Exalted Moon signifies that she would be a good singer.

Venus conjuct Rahu in D1,D9 or D10 charts signify worldly fame.


Best Regards,
Viduna.

[Dev]

I have Conjunction of 3rd,6th,8th and 12th lords in 3rd. But I also have conjunction of 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 10th and 11th in 3rd. I also have atmakaraka with an exalted planet in 3rd.
So we do have some horoscopes like these.
By the way I have debilitated 2nd lord jupiter with neecha bhanga and combust venus, but I am also a singer of classical music and play 2 or 3 instruments and have taught more than 100 students. I am told I have a very good voice. Usually one needs a strong 2nd lord for it.

Dev

[viduna2000]

Dev,please could you share your birth details.

Thanks,
Viduna.

[Dev]

Yes, Vidhuna.
2.30am , New Delhi 1-2-62, first Feb

[lnmurthy9]

Dear viduna,
I dont think we can compare Mahapurusha yoga with viparitharaja yoga,there is difference between fraud IAS earning crores,and a dynamic IAS officer draging politician in scam and emerging victorious.In my opinion,former is VPR,later is Mahapurusha yoga.

[lnmurthy9]

Hi,
Generally 3rd,6th,8th and 12th lords alone cannot conjunct because they do have other functionality of trine and kendra lordships.As per vipareetharajayoga,if 3rd,6th,8th and 12th lords conjunct in any of 3rd,6th,8th and 12th lords then there will be vipareetha rajayoga.lets consider makara lagna,mercury owns 6th and 9th houses and jupiter owns 3rd and 12th houses.If they conjunct in 3rd,6th,8th or 12th then Vipareetharajayoga will be formed.Lets say they conjunct in 3rd house(kama trikona) mercury gets debiliated jupiter in own house.This combination will lead to loss of wealth acquired from father via court of law.If mercury is in neechabhanga rajayoga then there can be success at court with some loss.Lets say they are in 6th house,mercury has more strength since it is own house,but still there will be losses through enemies since it is arthatrikona can be illegal money transactions showing false accountants.In 8th house,8th is 12th to ninth there can be death of father at early age,this point alone may not assure it depends on karaka sun to declare this.So in all the cases ninth lord(dharma) is getting affected badly,similarly you can analyse for other lagnas.
I am not saying people who have VPRY are all involved in fraud,but generally yes most of the cases I have seen are earning money in false ways,in some cases caught by the higher authorities and lost their fame and jobs.

[lnmurthy9]

You are asking how current transits effect Taurus rashi natives or for people who have Taurus lagna?

[lnmurthy9]

Generally transits are seen from moon in Vedic astrology,relating Jupiter transits or sat/rah/jetu transits to natal planets is western style.So basically you need to give ur birth details to go into analysis.

[lnmurthy9]

Hi,
Current Jupiter transit is definitely is going to help you,since he is in trine to natal Jupiter.There will be happiness from children,good hopes and success in speculations if any.

[lnmurthy9]

Hi,
But you have crossed two Saturn returns,so it can be end of your career,since Saturn aspecting sixth lord Venus if I am not wrong and must have ended when Jupiter is in taurus,but there is zeal to work in you.

[lnmurthy9]

Hi Ann,
This transit of jupiter must definitely help you in earnings,All the best.

[lnmurthy9]

Hi
It was in mer/mer/ket ketu,third lord in d-10 placed in 12th house also in 8th from mercury.Timing is ok,zeal will be there untill Saturn transits your 10th house of natal chart on Jupiter aspecting mercury-venus in 12th.You are ggood at analytical skills,current mercury MD will also give astrology knowledge.

[lnmurthy9]

Hi
Mercury conjunct Venus in 12th,aspected by transit Saturn so this transit is bit tough in some aspects but Jupiter in 5th from natal Jupiter will be encouraging transit.Saturn transit generally tests and restricts the areas it touches and by the time Saturn transits natal Jupiter you will be too old to move ahead,gradually your thinking energy will be slowed(then Saturn from Aquarius aspects natal mercury).

[lnmurthy9]

Hi
It will take another 8.5 years from now,when Saturn transits your 10th house of natal chart it can be end of your zeal to work.But however mercury being functional benefic to your chart should give you some good results Eventhough placed in 12th house.

[VenusQueen]

You have the wrong time of birth for beyonce

She was born 11:15am