What are DIVORCE KARAKAS in a horoscope?

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What are DIVORCE KARAKAS in a horoscope?

Post by P. Dutta » 20 Mar 2013

Hi all,

Shrikanth ji, ChandraLagna ji, Shilpa ji, Saindhavi ji, Srinivas Rao ji and all other respected astrologers, can you please start a discussion listing some of the possible planetary combinations/placements/angles/debilitation/malefic aspect/Mrityu Bhanga etc which are potential DIVORCE KARAKAS in a horoscope? It might not necessarily result in bachelorhood/spinsterhood/widowhood etc, but surely leads to divorce of the native.

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Re: What are DIVORCE KARAKAS in a horoscope?

Post by howzat » 25 Mar 2013

not in same order but i will give see sun Mars shani rahu ketu all divorce karakas
placement of these great peoples in 2 7 8 is a problem

also 6 8 12 conjunction aspect to 7H 7L is good indictor for divorce. no need for other great peoples to be invloved.

same see in navamsha also.

also 3 7 11 connection - stronger it is more marriage it is giving.

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Post by pray&love » 25 Mar 2013

Howzat ji,

What do you mean by 3 7 11 connection is more giving...giving in a positive or negative way? please explain.

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Post by swamykool » 26 Mar 2013

Hi PD,

Mars is the Kalaha Karak (arguments / fighting)
Sun is the Vichchhed Karak (Seperation)
Rest are the 6th L, 8th L, 12th L (6th fr 7th) and 2nd L (8th fr 7th). Extramarital affairs are judged from the 6th H and L. Being 12th to 7th is also the Bhava of Sapatni (co-wife) and Jaar (mistress/paramour).

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Post by 2002diksha » 26 Mar 2013

howzatji,
Is the involvement of rahu and ketu in 1-7 axis of navamsa a strong indicator of divorce.
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Post by RockyMountain » 26 Mar 2013

If husband and wife both have Rahu-Ketu in 1-7 or 7/1 axis in both Rashi and Navamsha, does their Rahu dosha (more specifically Sarpa Dosh) gets cancelled, or chances of their divorce gets doubled (or fourfold) here??

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howzat wrote:not in same order but i will give see sun Mars shani rahu ketu all divorce karakas
placement of these great peoples in 2 7 8 is a problem
Does Mars in 2H lead to Manglik dosh? Should such a native go for Manglik match?
(I was of the opinion that Manglik dosha arises when Mars is in 1, 4, 7, 8 or 12 houses only and NOT 2H.)

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Post by dimple » 26 Mar 2013

Sk ji what if kaleh karak mars is yoga karak for native(like for cancer and leo asc) does it give d same rasult means seperation nd fight between couple? Also if someone have 6th lord nd 6th house afflicted means he/she have extra marital affair

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Post by greatmonk » 26 Mar 2013

i think three criterias must be satisified for a successful marriage
1) no mars saturn conjunction in 7th house or from 1st house
2)even if such a conjunction exists there wil be martial discord for sure irrespective of sat mars placement in any other houses other than 7th
3)natural malefics occupying 4th from rasi where ascendent lord is placed wil surely cause divorce,and complete breakdown of marriage
4)check for SAV values for 7th and 12th from ascendant must be 25 in value,if less then this value,marriage wil fail or couples wil leave separately with or without divorce

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Post by revribhav » 27 Mar 2013

In the society of,say,about 2 centuries ago,it was a rare occurence
Post Uranus society has incredibly changed
We may look at
Uranus' connection with trika (6,8,12)houses and/or lords

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Post by janaki » 27 Mar 2013

Thank you Ravibharavji for additional information on Uranus. I feel it has a major role in today’s changed times.
Some of the Divorce Causing Agents:
1. Placement of lords of 2, 6, 8 and 12 in 7th house alone or in conjunct with Malefics.
2. Placement of 7th lord in 2, 6, 8, 12 or conjunction of lord of 7th with lords of 2, 6, 8 and 12.
3. Placement of Malefics in 6, 8 and 12 from 7th house. Shadashtak Yoga of Planets placed in 7th house with Malefics.
4. Venus in Papkartari, Retro, Combust, debilitated state, in Krittika, Moola, Ardra, Jyeshtha, Kendrayoga and Pratiyoga of Venus and Uranus, Malefics placed in 7th from Venus is a sign of unhappiness in married life.
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Post by greatmonk » 27 Mar 2013

vedic astrology does not consider outer planets for martial matters, only western astrology uses these planets for mundane astrology as well as for all aspects of life.vedic astrolgy gives a clear roadmap for these martial discord based on prarabhada karma and sanchita karma.ancient sages believed every problem had a subtle and suitable solution but we have lost a great deal of our ancient knowlegde to others.every planet can play both benefic and malefic role depending on their aspecting power.it was believed lord shri ram horoscope had a strong gaja kesari yoga causing guru in chandra lagna but his aspect on 7th house ruined his martial life.

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Post by revribhav » 27 Mar 2013

Let me tell you that adaptation has been supported in the classical texts.
It has been un ambigously laid down that when there is no proper Muhurtha and there is emergency,godhuli (evening sun set time) may be resorted to as emergency muhurtha.
Every astrolger who follows vedic or sanatan astrology has his own set of tools,whether one considers uranus or not is one's own choice,it is finally the accuracy of prediction that matters instead of a controversy .

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Post by greatmonk » 27 Mar 2013

revribhav wrote:Let me tell you that adaptation has been supported in the classical texts.
It has been un ambigously laid down that when there is no proper Muhurtha and there is emergency,godhuli (evening sun set time) may be resorted to as emergency muhurtha.
Every astrolger who follows vedic or sanatan astrology has his own set of tools,whether one considers uranus or not is one's own choice,it is finally the accuracy of prediction that matters instead of a controversy .
yes but even the best predictions fails because not every astrologer completely understands the depths of vedic astrology for muhurta predictions even shri B.V Raman had said so in his book, few facts are always overlooked in an individual horoscope because of lack of correct birth data as well as corrects position of planets and ayanamsa followed. all predictions have a probability factor attached to them.

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Post by navodaya » 28 Mar 2013

I feel when the lord of 7th house is associated with the 6th lord or lord of 7th house is in 6th house cojunct with the 6th lord the marriage will not survive/ consummation may also not happen.

Seniors, your views are welcomed

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Post by DhoomDhoom » 29 Mar 2013

Isn't Venus-Ketu conjunction regarded as a divorce-karaka by itself? Such a conjunction especially in 1H or 7H of Rashi or Navamsha is a strong indication of divorce. Seniors please validate.

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Post by basab14 » 29 Mar 2013

Yes, you are right, DhoomDhoom.
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Post by revribhav » 30 Mar 2013

So far as conjunction of planets is concerned,consideration may be paid to direction of progression and distance between the two.
Take example of venus ketu,if both retrograde,venus is not "applying" to ketu however,both moving towards each other,a strong conjunction,may lead to separation or even two persons merely living in the same house.

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Post by revribhav » 30 Mar 2013

Indeed,there are scores of people living together for the sake of children or society.
Incidentally,I am reminded of one of my friends, married twice,had one divorce,,ultimately committed suicide at the age of 33
15 May 1966 02:00 a.m. Pali (rajasthan,India).

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Post by 2002diksha » 31 Mar 2013

revrivhavji,
when is venus and ketu combine not harmful to the native.like what happens when two are 13 degress apart.
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Post by howzat » 31 Mar 2013

by revribhav » 31 Mar 2013 13:07
Indeed,there are scores of people living together for the sake of children or society.
Incidentally,I am reminded of one of my friends, married twice,had one divorce,,ultimately committed suicide at the age of 33
15 May 1966 02:00 a.m. Pali (rajasthan,India).
sir this Shankaranti dosa is a strong dosa ah. what a :shock:. today only second time i am seeing sankaranti dosa peoples are doing the suicides. what a. tragedy only.

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Post by radheykrishna » 31 Mar 2013

Hi Howzat & Revi jee,

what is Shankaranti Dosha ? which planetary combinations/placements forms it ?

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Post by revribhav » 31 Mar 2013

[quote="2002diksha"]revrivhavji,
when is venus and ketu combine not harmful to the native.like what happens when two are 13 degress apart.
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Have a close look including at bhava chart too,
suppose venus is not retrograde and occupies 27 degree,it is going to next rasi,ketu being retrograde is going in opposite direction thereby conjunction is ,nothing more than a bite of a bee.

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Post by DhoomDhoom » 31 Mar 2013

revribhav wrote:So far as conjunction of planets is concerned,consideration may be paid to direction of progression and distance between the two.
Take example of venus ketu,if both retrograde,venus is not "applying" to ketu however,both moving towards each other,a strong conjunction,may lead to separation or even two persons merely living in the same house.
revribhav wrote: suppose venus is not retrograde and occupies 27 degree,it is going to next rasi,ketu being retrograde is going in opposite direction thereby conjunction is ,nothing more than a bite of a bee.
Revribhav ji,
From your above two posts, I conclude:

If both Venus and Ketu are retrograde, their close conjunction leads to separation.
If both Venus and Ketu are direct, then also their close conjunction leads to separation.
But if either Venus or Ketu are retrograde, then their close conjunction isn't much malefic.
Please confirm.

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Post by revribhav » 01 Apr 2013

Your conclusions are illusionary,please read again the post and have a basic knowledge about Ketu and venus.

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