chalit chart

[howzat]

dear anxious

some time back you asked

by anxious2711 » 22 Oct 2012 18:26
what can you say about the strength of my Sasha yoga? Can I expect it to ever materialise? (I won't see my Saturn MD)
DOB: 27-11-82
TOB: 10:50 am (GMT+3)
POB: Antananarivo, Madagascar

and recently you told

by anxious2711 » 04 Mar 2013 19:45
Regardless of the methodology used, Bhava chalit is used to confirm any yoga seen in D1. If you look at bhava chalit by it self you should only consider any malefic conjunction/aspects.
If the yoga is present in D1 but absent in Bhava chalit then the yoga is weak, but you see a yoga in the chalit chart but not in D1 then it does not exist.
This is actually like saying that the further the planets are from the lagna degree the weaker their effect, it sorts of aligns with the MEP methodology.

and now

by anxious2711 » 09 Mar 2013 14:19

howzat wrote
one more thing see as per bhava chalita chart - Sripathi prophyry house division system with lagna as middle of the first house. there is no Sasa yoga only. why means for both Capri and Aquarius lagna Shani is in 9th Bhava. For sasa yoga to come Shani must be in kendra from Lagna.

I am getting confused, are you now taking into consideration the bhava chalit chart to assess yogas?

dear anxious i am not and never taking bhava chalit chart to assess yoga. I am just showing why bhava chalit chart is not working or can not be taken in your case. or even otherwise.

[anxious2711]

Dear Howzat,

All I am saying is please use another example. The date and time that I gave you, shadbala will not change. When you want to test a theory, you should try to keep all other factors unchanged and then reach a conclusion. So please, for the same scenario, tell me your thoughts on that specific date.

Also you said "one more thing see as per bhava chalita chart - Sripathi prophyry house division system with lagna as middle of the first house. there is no Sasa yoga only. why means for both Capri and Aquarius lagna Shani is in 9th Bhava. For sasa yoga to come Shani must be in kendra from Lagna."

This is why I am getting confused!

As I said I am Makara lagna, I thought that from Rashi chart I had Shasa yoga, but because in the bhava chalit Shani is in 9th, the yoga was weak. But then if we do not take into account the bhava chart then the Shasa yoga should be present in my chart, am I right?

[howzat]

by anxious2711 » 10 Mar 2013 02:34
Dear Howzat,
As I said I am Makara lagna, I thought that from Rashi chart I had Shasa yoga, but because in the bhava chalit Shani is in 9th, the yoga was weak. But then if we do not take into account the bhava chart then the Shasa yoga should be present in my chart, am I right?

dont confuse. if see the word ah. If you are makara lagna then correctly you have told that there is sasa Yoga in chart. forget about bhava chalit chart. if you are Makara lagna sasa yoga is there. If you are a Makara lagna then sasa yoga is strong. you see shadbala. shani is strongest planet.

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Dear Sir,

1) So far I was not knowing ur date of birth and I was giving answer to ur specific question.
Now I came to know ur date of birth , ie:- 27-11-82, 10.50am, Madagaskar/Antananaviro

2) There is 2 things to be noted

a) There is difference of lagna between J.Hora and others.

As per J hora it is kumba lagna ( Sun rise:5-06, Set:17-51) longi 49.43,13.22)
As per Astro-vision software it is Makara lagna.( 5-03, 18-12)Longi 47.32E,18.55s)
As per Parashara light software it is Kumba lagna ( 5-04, 17-57)Longi 49.43, 13.22)

b) Since there is different longitude/latitude and Sun rise/set is shown in Astrovision software, u get makara lagna instead of Kumba lagna.

Therefore , kumba lagna is the right one in your case and j hora is correct . Otherwise kindly tell me which is the Longitude and Latitude of your Birth place?

Because of this, there will be a change in Sthana bala calculation points and ultimately Shadbala points varies between the softwares.

If u take Makara lagna ,Shani in KENDRA sthana and hence the kendra bala is taken under sthana bala calculation . Where as in Kumba lagna Shani in 9th house,so there is no Kendra bala calculation.

Sthana Bala:- ( this is for ur information )

a) Uchha bala
b) Saptavargeeya bala
c) Yugm-Oja bala
d) Kendra bala
e) Drekkana bala.

I hope u r now very much cleared in your doubts.

Now let us take Makara lagna and Shani in Kendra/10th house ----Shasha yoga. Why Sasha yoga phala is not there in this jataka?.

Before that I would like u to read “Raja yoga “thread written by me earlier in this forum and see what happens when Raja yoga grahs gets the sambandha of 6-8-12th lords or through nakshatras.

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... =4&t=10175

[anxious2711]

Dear Sir,

The latitude and longitude are as follow: 18.9386° S, 47.5214° E.

So from the other article, if Shani was in Vishaka (Guru being L12), then they would not get the phala?
And in my case, the Shani's lord being in 11th and it's Nakshatra lord L4/L11 being in 12 reduces the phala to a great extent, am I understanding correctly?

Thanks,

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Mr Anxious,

I am not getting your specified longitude or latitude in J hora , so I am unable to analyse any more.

Earlier u said Shani in Chitta nakshatra , now u say Shani in Vishakha nakshatra.

(Even if in 11th Guru nakshatra, it is more harmfull , because it is in papa karthari yoga. U will not get Shasha yoga phala.Instead u will have to face lot of tension with regard to money matters, job and kutumba. U may have to work in a distance place from your birth place , no manah shanthi)

You don’t know what to ask?. It seems u are neither interested in jyothish, nor the phala . U want only to ask frequent questions. I don’t give answers to such unwarranted questions.

U go-ahead with your Bava Chalitha Chart. I am sorry , lets close this .

[anxious2711]

Dear Sir,

I am sorry I did not mean for you to get so upset with my questions. I meant hypothetically speaking. Since Libra has three Nakshatra, for a Makara lagna with exalted Shani, it could either be in Chitra (my case, fourth pada), in Swati, or in Vishaka.

From the other post, I read that if there is 12th lord sambandha, then it gives the least phala. So having Shani in Vishaka would be the least desirable for a Makara lagna (as Guru is L3/L12).

I am sorry if you misunderstood me, I was just trying to draw my own conclusions, after reading the other thread. I may have been mistaken but it was just an attempt.

In my case, Shani's lord Venus is sitting in the 11th house and furthermore, Shani is in the Nakshatra of L4/L11 (badhaka Mangal). Moreover Mangal is sitting in the 12 th house. So Shani has a sambandha with the 11th and 12th houses.
So my conclusion was that the yoga conferred by having an exalted Shani in kendra gets reduced to a great extent, and that is why I do not feel the effect of the Shasa yoga.

I did not mean to upset you in any way, and do not see what I have said to upset you. But anyways, I am sorry if I did upset you.

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Dear Sir,

No, no dont tell me sorry.

Its OK Sir

Regards