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Dear Deepji,
As I have no knowledge about pharmacy, can you please enlighten what this is about and what subjects one has to study?

Pharmacy is the subject related to medicine, it is the science of making medicine. I am working in one of the pharmaceutical industries as an Production Chemist.

But i would like to work at research level.

Medicine means what we all purchase from the drug store. I am engaged in its manufacturing.

Thanks and kind regards,

Kabir Chintan
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deeps wrote:VNT ji,

Yes it is correct that Lord Saturn antardasha has to be tough for you at workplace and also some health issues bothering you. Mercury antardasha will be better and with 7th Lord, you are likely to remain in abroad. But i need to know since when you are abroad? How has been the beginning of Sun dasha so far?
thank you again deeps ji
i have been outside india from 2004. but still not well settled. after august 2009 upto december 2010 has been a good period. after that period has been ok. there are 2 options one is to continue in the same job in us or come back to india(of course i will try to get a position in india before i decide to came back).
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@Yellow,

I don't pay much attention to Guna Milap. I think the score is more in line with traditional goals of marriage (having kids, taking care of parents, good housewife and good provider) and not necessarily about harmony between the couple. I have seen horoscopes matched with a good score and then the couple pretty much disengaged from each other and the guy having extramarital affairs.

Yes, I have seen charts with Mars in lagna, 12th house, 4th house for one partner and not for other. In all cases, there is some sort of 'disappointment' from one side but not enough to cause violence or break.

I don't have much experience on Mars in 7th and 8th. I know 7th house Mars for Hitler. There are so many things going on in that chart, I don't know if Mars in 7th would stand out as the only thing. Sri Rama chart in Jagannath tradition also has Mars in 7th house.
P.V.R. Narasimha Rao has Mars in 8th, but he seems to have pretty traditional marriage.
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CLEARED THE WORLD LEVEL FINANCE PAPER IN FIRST ATTEMPT.

DASHA RUNNING LORD JUPITER/ LORD SATURN/ LORD RAHU/ LORD SATURN.

Dhanu lagna, Rahu in 7th house, Guru/ Saturn in 11th house.
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Violet,

I agree with you that guna milap doesn’t work in a lot of cases. About one partner being a manglik and another being not, I also don’t think it affects that much.

About Hitler, maybe Mars in the 7th house is not the only reason for keeping him unmarried, but I feel, Mars in the 7th house or 8th house is enough to bring problems in married life, of course not so if Mars is in own sign/exalted or having the influence of Jupiter.

Sri Rama had Mars in the 7th house, and we all know he was separated from his wife most of the part of their marriage, so it didn’t do him good, definitely. About P.V.R. Narasimha Rao having Mars in 8th house and having traditional marriage, I don’t think being manglik has anything to do with the kind of marriage one will have—it mainly gives problems in marriage.
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Aseem,

Jupiter and Saturn are in the 11th house of success and achievements in your chart, so it's no wonder that you cleared the exam in the Jupiter-Saturn-Rahu-Saturn period.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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Thanks. Anyway, I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of Rahu in tula rashi on 15th January 2013. :)

Once the Greatest 2 Malefics join together for a party, I wonder what They will plan behind the closed door? :roll:

It will be a keenly watched transit. And no i am not talking about my chart. :mrgreen:
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I agree with you that guna milap doesn’t work in a lot of cases. About one partner being a manglik and another being not, I also don’t think it affects that much.

About Hitler, maybe Mars in the 7th house is not the only reason for keeping him unmarried, but I feel, Mars in the 7th house or 8th house is enough to bring problems in married life, of course not so if Mars is in own sign/exalted or having the influence of Jupiter.

Sri Rama had Mars in the 7th house, and we all know he was separated from his wife most of the part of their marriage, so it didn’t do him good, definitely. About P.V.R. Narasimha Rao having Mars in 8th house and having traditional marriage, I don’t think being manglik has anything to do with the kind of marriage one will have—it mainly gives problems in marriage.
I totally disagree here. Gun milap is very important. Minimum points may not be required but atleast graha maitri, gana, bhakut should be matching so as to avoid conflicts over misunderstandings. Meeting of Minds are very necessary to keep any relationship going on. It is said bhakut dosh is cancelled if graha maitri is there. So that leaves to graha and gana matching.

About PVR, i have not seen his chart. Since He is himself an astrologer, so he must have married a manglik girl to cancel the dosh. Also check how 7th house and 7th Lords are placed.
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thank you again deeps ji
i have been outside india from 2004. but still not well settled. after august 2009 upto december 2010 has been a good period. after that period has been ok. there are 2 options one is to continue in the same job in us or come back to india(of course i will try to get a position in india before i decide to came back).
Actually, 4th house of own country is tied with 9th house of luck. This shows good luck in India. But then 8th Lord going to 4th house has weakened the 4th house, so you must be compelled to try your luck outside India.

Rahu will also be transiting libra from 15th January and will cast aspect on Lord Sun. This transit of Rahu and Saturn looks very good from dhanu lagna. But if seen from Moon chart, this transit will happen in 8th house. Since ashtam shani is seen from Moon chart, you are under ashtam shani also. There can be conflicting thoughts in mind as what to do and where to go. It will also be a Rahu return for you.

Anyway, till rahu is there, there will be lots of events happening relating to work as you will also start 10th Lord period of Mercury. Conflicts with higher authorities are not ruled out either.

I am actually hopeful because you are running favourable Sun mahadasha. So, even if something not good happens at career, your 9th Lord will pull you of the mess and give you better opportunity.

As I said earlier, that Lord Saturn influencing natal Sun brings changed in one's career. So next 2 years are important for you. Difficulties maybe in the beginning , then happiness in the end.

due to 9th Lord period, overall changes in career should happen more favourably for you.
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deeps wrote:
I agree with you that guna milap doesn’t work in a lot of cases. About one partner being a manglik and another being not, I also don’t think it affects that much.

About Hitler, maybe Mars in the 7th house is not the only reason for keeping him unmarried, but I feel, Mars in the 7th house or 8th house is enough to bring problems in married life, of course not so if Mars is in own sign/exalted or having the influence of Jupiter.

Sri Rama had Mars in the 7th house, and we all know he was separated from his wife most of the part of their marriage, so it didn’t do him good, definitely. About P.V.R. Narasimha Rao having Mars in 8th house and having traditional marriage, I don’t think being manglik has anything to do with the kind of marriage one will have—it mainly gives problems in marriage.
I totally disagree here. Gun milap is very important. Minimum points may not be required but atleast graha maitri, gana, bhakut should be matching so as to avoid conflicts over misunderstandings. Meeting of Minds are very necessary to keep any relationship going on. It is said bhakut dosh is cancelled if graha maitri is there. So that leaves to graha and gana matching.

About PVR, i have not seen his chart. Since He is himself an astrologer, so he must have married a manglik girl to cancel the dosh. Also check how 7th house and 7th Lords are placed.
I see your point of view about Gun milap.
It works in a completely arranged marriage when two strangers had to get along. But if two people meet and think they like each other, would graha maitri tell anything more than that?
There must be some favorable factor already to make two people like or 'connect' to each other, even as friends.

I think LOVA forum itself is an example with 'Moon-Ketu' club, or strong 10th house charts, or Libra and Cap Lagna/Rashis. Like attracts like, no?
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VioletTwilight » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:58 am

I see your point of view about Gun milap.
It works in a completely arranged marriage when two strangers had to get along. But if two people meet and think they like each other, would graha maitri tell anything more than that?
There must be some favorable factor already to make two people like or 'connect' to each other, even as friends.

I think LOVA forum itself is an example with 'Moon-Ketu' club, or strong 10th house charts, or Libra and Cap Lagna/Rashis. Like attracts like, no?
I had presented the case of a couple earlier. They had a love marriage. Only if the charts matching was done properly, they would not suffered like this. But they were destined to marry as they have second marriage yoga in their chart.

I have not read the moon/ketu thread properly.

By the way what you mean to say that people strong 10th house charts or libra and capricorn lagna/ rashis. What they have got to do with gun milap?
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Aseem,

I also am very interested in seeing how Rahu and Saturn does in Libra. It will be an interesting period, the next 1.5 years, I am sure, for all of us. 8)
deeps wrote:Thanks. Anyway, I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of Rahu in tula rashi on 15th January 2013. :)

Once the Greatest 2 Malefics join together for a party, I wonder what They will plan behind the closed door? :roll:

It will be a keenly watched transit. And no i am not talking about my chart. :mrgreen:
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Aseem,

I don't know in details about guna milap, but from you have said, it does seem to have an important role to play in marriage.

About a manglik marrying a manglik cancelling the dosha, I am not sure how effective that is. I don't feel it has such a strong effect. You have mentioned that 7th house and 7th lord has to be checked, too, for marriage, but I feel--I may come across as prejudiced--Mars in 7th house or 8th house are capable enough to bring problems in marriage, irrespective of how 7th house/lord and Venus are in a chart.

One more thing I would like to say here: you have talked about gun milap and matching of charts in other ways, but if a chart shows bad marriage, wouldn't it give that, irrespective of the matchings done as after all destiny has to give its results. We can't, I think you believe this, too, change our destiny by our free will, and matching charts is just an effort to change the destiny of a marriage, I think you will agree with me here.
deeps wrote:I totally disagree here. Gun milap is very important. Minimum points may not be required but atleast graha maitri, gana, bhakut should be matching so as to avoid conflicts over misunderstandings. Meeting of Minds are very necessary to keep any relationship going on. It is said bhakut dosh is cancelled if graha maitri is there. So that leaves to graha and gana matching.

About PVR, i have not seen his chart. Since He is himself an astrologer, so he must have married a manglik girl to cancel the dosh. Also check how 7th house and 7th Lords are placed.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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Yellow » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:45 am

Aseem,

I don't know in details about guna milap, but from you have said, it does seem to have an important role to play in marriage.

About a manglik marrying a manglik cancelling the dosha, I am not sure how effective that is. I don't feel it has such a strong effect. You have mentioned that 7th house and 7th lord has to be checked, too, for marriage, but I feel--I may come across as prejudiced--Mars in 7th house or 8th house are capable enough to bring problems in marriage, irrespective of how 7th house/lord and Venus are in a chart.
Well I am sorry if you don't believe in all these things or they don't play an important role in marriage. The whole world of astrologers like KN Rao, Mehta ji, etc advocates the importance of manglik and charts matching. But i know why you are saying this as you have Mars in 12th house as 7th lord. I know it a very sensitive issue for you.
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VioletTwilight wrote:I think LOVA forum itself is an example with 'Moon-Ketu' club, or strong 10th house charts, or Libra and Cap Lagna/Rashis. Like attracts like, no?
Violet,

It's nice to know that you believe that like attract like, as I believe in that, too, though the popular belief is 'opposites attract'. :?
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One more thing I would like to say here: you have talked about gun milap and matching of charts in other ways, but if a chart shows bad marriage, wouldn't it give that, irrespective of the matchings done as after all destiny has to give its results. We can't, I think you believe this, too, change our destiny by our free will, and matching charts is just an effort to change the destiny of a marriage, I think you will agree with me here.
Everything is destiny and let me best illustrate you with this example of the couple and the working of destiny.

In both the charts shows dual marriage as we saw. After I saw their horocopes, i was shocked to see manglik dosh not cancelled and the poor gun milap. I asked him if he checked the charts with his astrologer. He just told me NO and he was repenting for it.

In short, if a couple is destined to have divorce, then destiny simply blinds the eyes of astrologers and also blinds the eyes of Love stricken people.

I am not against LOVE marriage. I know of a couple who had love marriage and they are happy for the past 15 years. Their charts are having good points.
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Yellow » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:55 am

VioletTwilight wrote:
I think LOVA forum itself is an example with 'Moon-Ketu' club, or strong 10th house charts, or Libra and Cap Lagna/Rashis. Like attracts like, no?


Violet,

It's nice to know that you believe that like attract like, as I believe in that, too, though the popular belief is 'opposites attract'.
Similar thoughts attracts similar thoughts in good times.

But in bad times, similar thoughts attracts different thoughts which leads to enmities and mud slinging. :lol:
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deeps wrote:Well I am sorry if you don't believe in all these things or they don't play an important role in marriage. The whole world of astrologers like KN Rao, Mehta ji, etc advocates the importance of manglik and charts matching. But i know why you are saying this as you have Mars in 12th house as 7th lord. I know it a very sensitive issue for you.
Aseem,

I agree that all the great astrologers talk about manglik dosha and chart matching, but as I believe destiny is predestined, I don't really worry myself in regard to all that and try to instead grow my power of endurance to accept my fate, whatever it is. I feel how much we try to outsmart destiny by matching charts etc, destiny always proves itself smarter than us, so the only way to win over destiny to be indifferent about its effect on us.

Yes, I have Mars in 12th house as 7th lord, and I have Venus in 8th house aspected by Saturn, but it doesn't bother me one bit because I don't believe in crying about something, which I can't change, and then, who knows maybe I will have a good marriage, in spite of it seeming otherwise, as per my chart, as sometimes what a chart apparently shows is not what happens. My gut feeling tells me that I will have a wonderful married life. Time will tell whether what I feel is correct or not.
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Yellow » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:10 am

I agree that all the great astrologers talk about manglik dosha and chart matching, but as I believe destiny is predestined, I don't really worry myself in regard to all that and try to instead grow my power of endurance to accept my fate, whatever it is. I feel how much we try to outsmart destiny by matching charts etc, destiny always proves itself smarter than us, so the only way to win over destiny to be indifferent about its effect on us.

Yes, I have Mars in 12th house as 7th lord, and I have Venus in 8th house aspected by Saturn, but it doesn't bother me one bit because I don't believe in crying about something, which I can't change.
Marriages getting break, or marriage made in heaven are all workings of destiny and this is proved through the planets placed in charts. Good to see that you are not bothered about it. :)

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who knows maybe I will have a good marriage, in spite of it seeming otherwise, as per my chart, as sometimes what a chart apparently shows is not what happens. My gut feeling tells me that I will have a wonderful married life. Time will tell whether what I feel is correct or not.
Ofcourse you will have a good marriage life. See how manglik and Lord Saturn aspect on Venus has delayed your marriage. If you had married earlier, it would have ended in divorce. But now maturity will help both of you to lead a good happy marriage life.

You will have happiness from in laws too as 4th house is occupied by Moon in own sign like Gandhi ji . :)
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Yes, Aseem, whatever happens happens as per God's will, it's our arrogance which makes us feel that we are the makers of our own destiny. Yes, I am not bothered about my destiny now and hardly check my chart since my Saturn sub-period started in May 2009 from when I started reading spiritual books, which has helped me immensely in not letting me get affected by what my birth chart says.
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That's nice to hear. Good to see your 9th Lord in 9th house has really done wonders for you. Anyway, one tends to lose interest in own chart with time. :)
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Yes, I agree that Saturn's aspect on Venus and 7th lord in 12th house has delayed my marriage. Nice to know that you feel, too, that I will have a happy married life. I will wait for another 2 years before I marry, though my gut feeling tells me that I will get married in the Venus-Mercury period only, which will be there till May 2015.

Yeah, Moon in the 4th house from 7th house shows caring in laws, but then, they can be manipulative too as Rahu is also there. But as long as I have no issues with my wife, I won't bother about my in laws. Coming to Mahatma Gandhi, I am not sure how his in laws were, but you are right, he also had Moon in the 4th house from 7th house like in my case.
deeps wrote:Ofcourse you will have a good marriage life. See how manglik and Lord Saturn aspect on Venus has delayed your marriage. If you had married earlier, it would have ended in divorce. But now maturity will help both of you to lead a good happy marriage life.

You will have happiness from in laws too as 4th house is occupied by Moon in own sign like Gandhi ji . :)
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Yellow » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:34 am

Yes, I agree that Saturn's aspect on Venus and 7th lord in 12th house has delayed my marriage. Nice to know that you feel, too, that I will have a happy married life. I will wait for another 2 years before I marry, though my gut feeling tells me that I will get married in the Venus-Mercury period only, which will be there till May 2015.

Yeah, Moon in the 4th house from 7th house shows caring in laws, but then, they can be manipulative too as Rahu is also there. But as long as I have no issues with my wife, I won't bother about my in laws.
Well, Best of Luck and hope your predictions come true.

Yeah you are right, Rahu can be manipulative too and He can give you such in laws. Hope they don't manipulate you much :mrgreen:
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Yes, 9th lord in 9th house has helped me use spirituality in tackling with the worldly issues very well. About people losing interest in their charts with time, it's true to a certain extent, I agree.
deeps wrote:That's nice to hear. Good to see your 9th Lord in 9th house has really done wonders for you. Anyway, one tends to lose interest in own chart with time. :)
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