KSY works every time and I have experiences of this yoga (I would say yoga not dosham)...I would say in astroboy's term this video will project it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAA1mrH1P14
I too have full KSY and my life has very much similar to the video, got beaten up and down and still happening from all sides, domestic, professional and relations. Anyways there is also a book page 116, Chapter 13.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50561692/Rahuv
But finally its all about going on and never giving up, KSY refines you to the inner core and very blessed souls are given KSY since only they can tolerate and come out of circumstances.
I have changed radically and become very spiritual, although deep down there is resentment but there is that small light in the innermost self to stay afloat and it guides through all the smoky things.
Jai Hanuman Jai Shree Ram
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sir,
even I have kalsarpa yoga in my chart. yet I am a positive person . but many of the persons with kalsarpa yoga I have observed are very negative to the core. does having this yoga means that person will be mentally weak and not positive . I am very much interested in the view of the readers of this forum regarding kalsarpa yoga. unfortunately many in my family are having this yoga.this yoga has created so much scare in the minds of the people that we fear of some mishap every time rahu or ketu dasha starts.can anyone with kaslapa yoga say how their married life is going. does this yoga affects the married life too.I think god is not that cruel to give immense suffering to people with kalsarpa yoga. after all their is freewill too and people do exercise their will power to come out of this yoga.I think there in not so much of imbalance in this world so as to say that only people with kalsarpa yoga will suffer like anything while others will bask in glory.
regards
even I have kalsarpa yoga in my chart. yet I am a positive person . but many of the persons with kalsarpa yoga I have observed are very negative to the core. does having this yoga means that person will be mentally weak and not positive . I am very much interested in the view of the readers of this forum regarding kalsarpa yoga. unfortunately many in my family are having this yoga.this yoga has created so much scare in the minds of the people that we fear of some mishap every time rahu or ketu dasha starts.can anyone with kaslapa yoga say how their married life is going. does this yoga affects the married life too.I think god is not that cruel to give immense suffering to people with kalsarpa yoga. after all their is freewill too and people do exercise their will power to come out of this yoga.I think there in not so much of imbalance in this world so as to say that only people with kalsarpa yoga will suffer like anything while others will bask in glory.
regards
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I dont know if it exists more in Female natives but I did come across some people who have their blood relatives also having KSY, In my case, my entire nuclear family has it but others are having half yogas not a full one but it does exits, more research needs to be done in order to correlate everything before coming to conclusion.
If some experience member can gather every KSY charts (not the big and renowned figures but of regular people) and starts researching them and their experience then one can come to conclusions.
But please although I am very much inexperienced in astrological remedies, do not go for the expensive poojas which people make you (Rs 10,000 - 50,000) do at all, it wont make a difference, atleast I have seen it dynamically, when I get time, doing meditation and surrendering the ego to the ultimate source is very much helpful, helping others and not trying to harm others, we really cant change the positions of all the planets from the rahu - ketu axis, by doing these newly invented type of poojas which has come from corrupted minds of astrologers.
But doing maha mrityunjaya mantra, one can find peace, and it depends if your having dridha good/ bad karma no one can change it so we are by all bound by karmas of different level.
But please dont at all fall for expensive poojas, its a complete deal breaker I have personal experience with it.
For me, Rahu is in 4th house, and when it transited the Natal moon in the first house of Sagittarius, I was expecting mental turmoil but I became homeless in 1 night, all my stuff I had to throw out in just one night found temporary accommodations here and there and after 2 months I got a new apartment, so one really cant predict but would further add , I am very much a novice and am bound to make some mistakes too..so please forgive me...
If some experience member can gather every KSY charts (not the big and renowned figures but of regular people) and starts researching them and their experience then one can come to conclusions.
But please although I am very much inexperienced in astrological remedies, do not go for the expensive poojas which people make you (Rs 10,000 - 50,000) do at all, it wont make a difference, atleast I have seen it dynamically, when I get time, doing meditation and surrendering the ego to the ultimate source is very much helpful, helping others and not trying to harm others, we really cant change the positions of all the planets from the rahu - ketu axis, by doing these newly invented type of poojas which has come from corrupted minds of astrologers.
But doing maha mrityunjaya mantra, one can find peace, and it depends if your having dridha good/ bad karma no one can change it so we are by all bound by karmas of different level.
But please dont at all fall for expensive poojas, its a complete deal breaker I have personal experience with it.
For me, Rahu is in 4th house, and when it transited the Natal moon in the first house of Sagittarius, I was expecting mental turmoil but I became homeless in 1 night, all my stuff I had to throw out in just one night found temporary accommodations here and there and after 2 months I got a new apartment, so one really cant predict but would further add , I am very much a novice and am bound to make some mistakes too..so please forgive me...
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sir,
but the mute question is that many people are suffering in this world . some are with situation that threaten their very existence. all don't have kalsarpa yoga in this chart. I think it is futile to blame kalsarpa yoga every time things goes wrong. one should try to find different answers to their problems and not just blame the kalsarpa yoga in blanket terms.If a person is strong and very creative then he can some out of the problems in his life and heal himself. kalsarpa yoga in my opinion is a mere tool to blame astrology if things goes wrong with a person.
regards
but the mute question is that many people are suffering in this world . some are with situation that threaten their very existence. all don't have kalsarpa yoga in this chart. I think it is futile to blame kalsarpa yoga every time things goes wrong. one should try to find different answers to their problems and not just blame the kalsarpa yoga in blanket terms.If a person is strong and very creative then he can some out of the problems in his life and heal himself. kalsarpa yoga in my opinion is a mere tool to blame astrology if things goes wrong with a person.
regards
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Yes, very much, I would say people suffer for their karmas which are reflected back from other planets too, but what I would say is that KSY brings sudden rise and sudden fall in an instant which other planets are too capable of, so blaming KSY for each and every suffering is wrong, but we also cannot remove it out of the picture too...
Hello astroboy ji, namaste. I would like to know what I have in my Kundali viz., is it KSY or KSD? I mean yoga or dosha?
My details are as follows- 17/10/1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, guntur district, andhra Pradesh.
I got delayed my studies during 2004-06. Somebody told to perform kaal Sarpa Pooja @ Srikalahasti. I did for 3 yrs continuously. An interesting thing is - since childhood, I use to see snakes regularly in my sleep. But don't harm. Request you to guide me and inform me what does chart says in this regard?
I have career stability prob, changed 8 jobs during last 6 yrs, now jobless. Trying for marriage since 2006, not successful till date. How to tackle these?
Regards,
Lnpk.
My details are as follows- 17/10/1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, guntur district, andhra Pradesh.
I got delayed my studies during 2004-06. Somebody told to perform kaal Sarpa Pooja @ Srikalahasti. I did for 3 yrs continuously. An interesting thing is - since childhood, I use to see snakes regularly in my sleep. But don't harm. Request you to guide me and inform me what does chart says in this regard?
I have career stability prob, changed 8 jobs during last 6 yrs, now jobless. Trying for marriage since 2006, not successful till date. How to tackle these?
Regards,
Lnpk.
A very nice thread and thanks astroboy for all your detailed contributions. I would like to add one point here. I have been taught that if the ascendant and all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu and if there is any one planet that is in conjunction with either rahu or ketu, then it is very important to make a careful analysis, by making use of our nakshatra system.
We should analyze the nakshatra in which the node and the planet conjoining it are situated in. If both are placed in the same nakshatra, then we need to see the degrees and if the planet is placed in higher degrees compared to the node, then the planet is outside the scope of KSY and hence the native does not have KSY. If the planet and the node are in different nakshatras, then if the planet is at a higher nakshatra than the node's nakshatra, then there is no KSY.
I haven't see this referred in any of your post and I wanted to bring that to your notice.
Regards,
Prakruthi
We should analyze the nakshatra in which the node and the planet conjoining it are situated in. If both are placed in the same nakshatra, then we need to see the degrees and if the planet is placed in higher degrees compared to the node, then the planet is outside the scope of KSY and hence the native does not have KSY. If the planet and the node are in different nakshatras, then if the planet is at a higher nakshatra than the node's nakshatra, then there is no KSY.
I haven't see this referred in any of your post and I wanted to bring that to your notice.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Prakruthi Jee
What you say is very logical. It is just like six sigma approach. but when you keep on increasing number of 9's, the effort as well accuracy required increases exponentially!!
Most of the time in astrology even 70% accuracy is good enough. It is simply next to impossible to arrive at correct position of planets in birth chart due to many variables. Recording of birth time, reference clock, ayanmansha and what not.
As we say a chain is as strong as its weakest link. Similarly here a small variance in calculation or value of a variable and lead to altogether different chart.
But as i understand in astrology a mere glance (drishti) of one planet to another is capable of producing some kind of result.
The level of calculation you mention is actually un-warranted if other emperical evidence (events in natives life etc) also denote towards presence of KSY or dosha.
What you say is very logical. It is just like six sigma approach. but when you keep on increasing number of 9's, the effort as well accuracy required increases exponentially!!
Most of the time in astrology even 70% accuracy is good enough. It is simply next to impossible to arrive at correct position of planets in birth chart due to many variables. Recording of birth time, reference clock, ayanmansha and what not.
As we say a chain is as strong as its weakest link. Similarly here a small variance in calculation or value of a variable and lead to altogether different chart.
But as i understand in astrology a mere glance (drishti) of one planet to another is capable of producing some kind of result.
The level of calculation you mention is actually un-warranted if other emperical evidence (events in natives life etc) also denote towards presence of KSY or dosha.
[quote="jolli"]Prakruthi Jee
The level of calculation you mention is actually un-warranted if other emperical evidence (events in natives life etc) also denote towards presence of KSY or dosha.[/quote]
Jolly ji,
Thank you for your comment. I would beg to differ on this point. Say for example, if Saturn and Rahu are cojoined with each other(assuming the rest of the planets and lagna are between Rahu and Ketu) and if Saturn is at a higher degree compared to Rahu, then the native does not have KSY, but the presence of Saturn in that house is capable of delaying things related to that house in the native's life and if we do not analyze the horoscope carefully, there is a greater chance that by just a mere glance, the astrologer might blame KSY as the reason for the delay and prescribe the native to do a KSY parihara which might have little or no effect on alleviating the problems.
Both jaundice and Typhoid have similar symptoms like nausea, fever, stomach ache etc... but we cannot treat Jaundice by just using the medicines of Typhoid, as we have just looked at the symptoms from outside and wrongly diagonized it to be typhoid, instead of making some additional careful tests.
Just my two cents.
Regards,
Prakruthi
The level of calculation you mention is actually un-warranted if other emperical evidence (events in natives life etc) also denote towards presence of KSY or dosha.[/quote]
Jolly ji,
Thank you for your comment. I would beg to differ on this point. Say for example, if Saturn and Rahu are cojoined with each other(assuming the rest of the planets and lagna are between Rahu and Ketu) and if Saturn is at a higher degree compared to Rahu, then the native does not have KSY, but the presence of Saturn in that house is capable of delaying things related to that house in the native's life and if we do not analyze the horoscope carefully, there is a greater chance that by just a mere glance, the astrologer might blame KSY as the reason for the delay and prescribe the native to do a KSY parihara which might have little or no effect on alleviating the problems.
Both jaundice and Typhoid have similar symptoms like nausea, fever, stomach ache etc... but we cannot treat Jaundice by just using the medicines of Typhoid, as we have just looked at the symptoms from outside and wrongly diagonized it to be typhoid, instead of making some additional careful tests.
Just my two cents.
Regards,
Prakruthi
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Prakruthi Jee
I agree with you. Thanks for explaining in lucid manner. I do not know astrology, but just aware of few things as a normal user will be.
I am aware that astrology is very calculation intensive subject, hence prone to errors in judgement. Though computers and softwares have made life much easy.
Coming to KSY, even though not mentioned in classics, still it is a unique combination / configuration of planets which is worth studying deeper/ seperatly. It requires research as well. As of now many people have been successful in derviving benefit from it. But they are mostly those for whom astrology is a profession and earning source.
I agree with you. Thanks for explaining in lucid manner. I do not know astrology, but just aware of few things as a normal user will be.
I am aware that astrology is very calculation intensive subject, hence prone to errors in judgement. Though computers and softwares have made life much easy.
Coming to KSY, even though not mentioned in classics, still it is a unique combination / configuration of planets which is worth studying deeper/ seperatly. It requires research as well. As of now many people have been successful in derviving benefit from it. But they are mostly those for whom astrology is a profession and earning source.
DOB: 16th October 2012
TOB: 1420 hrs.
POB: Gorakhpur (UP).
My Boy Shalvin Sharma has Kaal Sarpa Dosha. Is it Anulom or Vilom.
What will be the effect of this Dosha on his Personality, Family Life, Health & Career.
Please guide us if you see some other things worth mentioning regarding our Son's Kundli.
Thank You.
TOB: 1420 hrs.
POB: Gorakhpur (UP).
My Boy Shalvin Sharma has Kaal Sarpa Dosha. Is it Anulom or Vilom.
What will be the effect of this Dosha on his Personality, Family Life, Health & Career.
Please guide us if you see some other things worth mentioning regarding our Son's Kundli.
Thank You.
If Its Up To Me, Its Up To Be..!
Namashkar,
In my humble opinion, I do not think it is ethical and appropriate to look at the horoscope of a just born baby. Till a baby turns 16, majority of what is goes through in it's life is based on the karma of the baby's parents and it's past life and therefore, the baby has no responsibility for any of it's karma in this life till that age.
On a more personal level it is my strong opinion that parents should stop looking at the horoscopes of babies at such early age and influence its life decisions based on what they hear from the astrologer. Now that you have already seen the child's horoscope, your mind will connect even a small delay in any event that happens in the child's life to KSY, which might not be a true case in reality.
Therefore, please wait till the baby turns 16 and then seek astrological consultations for the child.
I hope you will take this in a positive spirit.
Regards,
Prakruthi
In my humble opinion, I do not think it is ethical and appropriate to look at the horoscope of a just born baby. Till a baby turns 16, majority of what is goes through in it's life is based on the karma of the baby's parents and it's past life and therefore, the baby has no responsibility for any of it's karma in this life till that age.
On a more personal level it is my strong opinion that parents should stop looking at the horoscopes of babies at such early age and influence its life decisions based on what they hear from the astrologer. Now that you have already seen the child's horoscope, your mind will connect even a small delay in any event that happens in the child's life to KSY, which might not be a true case in reality.
Therefore, please wait till the baby turns 16 and then seek astrological consultations for the child.
I hope you will take this in a positive spirit.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Hello can any one reply my query, posted on Nov 19th -
Hello astroboy ji, namaste. I would like to know what I have in my Kundali viz., is it KSY or KSD? I mean yoga or dosha?
My details are as follows- 17/10/1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, guntur district, andhra Pradesh.
I got delayed my studies during 2004-06. Somebody told to perform kaal Sarpa Pooja @ Srikalahasti. I did for 3 yrs continuously. An interesting thing is - since childhood, I use to see snakes regularly in my sleep. But don't harm. Request you to guide me and inform me what does chart says in this regard?
I have career stability prob, changed 8 jobs during last 6 yrs, now jobless. Trying for marriage since 2006, not successful till date. How to tackle these?
Regards,
Lnpk.
Hello astroboy ji, namaste. I would like to know what I have in my Kundali viz., is it KSY or KSD? I mean yoga or dosha?
My details are as follows- 17/10/1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, guntur district, andhra Pradesh.
I got delayed my studies during 2004-06. Somebody told to perform kaal Sarpa Pooja @ Srikalahasti. I did for 3 yrs continuously. An interesting thing is - since childhood, I use to see snakes regularly in my sleep. But don't harm. Request you to guide me and inform me what does chart says in this regard?
I have career stability prob, changed 8 jobs during last 6 yrs, now jobless. Trying for marriage since 2006, not successful till date. How to tackle these?
Regards,
Lnpk.
Hello,
Thanks for the quick response. I am taking your advice positively and will not seek any astrologers help for my son.
But will you please take a look at my kundli and let me know if I will be able to take care of my son.
Will I be able to provide him all the amenities of a good life?
What should I curb in myself so that I can provide him a good atmosphere to flourish?
Will he have a sibling?
My details are:
DOB: 30th January 1979,
TOB: 2240 hrs.,
POB: Raipur (CG).
I don't go to any astrologer as such. I have a Parashara Light software which I look into.
I think I also have KSY/D.
My past life was full of failures and lost opportunities.
My present is also not going to well.
Please tell me about my future as my son is totally dependent on me.
19 years of Shani Mahadasha included my formative years, studies, death of family members and nothing from career point of view.
How will my 17 years of Mercury Mahadasha be?
Thank You.
Thanks for the quick response. I am taking your advice positively and will not seek any astrologers help for my son.
But will you please take a look at my kundli and let me know if I will be able to take care of my son.
Will I be able to provide him all the amenities of a good life?
What should I curb in myself so that I can provide him a good atmosphere to flourish?
Will he have a sibling?
My details are:
DOB: 30th January 1979,
TOB: 2240 hrs.,
POB: Raipur (CG).
I don't go to any astrologer as such. I have a Parashara Light software which I look into.
I think I also have KSY/D.
My past life was full of failures and lost opportunities.
My present is also not going to well.
Please tell me about my future as my son is totally dependent on me.
19 years of Shani Mahadasha included my formative years, studies, death of family members and nothing from career point of view.
How will my 17 years of Mercury Mahadasha be?
Thank You.
If Its Up To Me, Its Up To Be..!
Namashkar ashbunty ji,
Firstly, I would like to tell you that there are certain combinations in your chart and my chart that matches exactly, because we both are 79 born. Exalted Jupiter in cancer and Saturn-Rahu conjunction in leo. Though the placement of the planets in the rashis are same for us, due to the different ascendants we have, due to the placement of moon in different houses and due to the placement of these common grahas in different nakshatras, we are facing the results of this common placements on different areas of our lives. My Saturn maha dasha had been full of challenges as well and the challenges have been passed over from Saturn maha dasha to Mercury maha dasha that I am currently going through and Mercury being a functional malefic in my horoscope has decided to continue with the challenging trend set up by Saturn. Therefore, I am of the opinion that almost all 79 born, due to the conjunction of Saturn-Rahu in leo and exalted Jupiter in cancer, have been undergoing a lot of challenges and transformations in different areas of our lives. So you are not alone in this journey. With time and with continued prayers, we will definitely overcome the challenges and get the blessings of Saturn. Saturn, being a slow planet usually delays things on the areas concerning the house he sits and aspects and expects discipline and perseverance, but once we adhere to his demands he never denies his blessings. Therefore, stay positive!
Regarding your other queries, I am sorry to say that I do not have the eligibility and knowledge to read intensively about such sensitive matters relating to children and I do not want to make any mistakes in my attempts to give some reading and intentionally or unintentionally misguide you due to my lack of knowledge. I totally understand and respect your worries and curiosity as a mother on the welfare of your child and I do not want to consciously or unconsciously make any mistakes that might hurt your feelings or give false promises due to my lack of experience. Therefore, please forgive me and I would suggest you to seek the guidance of some well experienced members like Ramanan ji, Shilpa ji and Elipsis Ji. I learn a lot from their knowledge and also Ramanan ji and Shilpa ji have analyzed my chart and helped me with their guidance. I would therefore suggest you to divert your queries to them in the free readings section.
However I can tell you somethings which I am totally certain about your chart. You DO NOT have KSY or KYD in your chart because Jupiter is outside the nexus of Rahu and Ketu axis and therefore you do not have to worry on that front. Whatever you had experienced in your Saturn dasha is something that your soul had to experience in this birth because saturn is your yogi and he is in a parivarthana yoga with the sun who represents the soul. Since saturn is in the shravana nakshatra that belongs to the moon, your mind perceives it with a lot of depression and mental suffering. Since moon is in your 6th house with kethu, please believe in lord ganesha and he would remove all the obstacles/sufferings and his blessings would relieve all the mental tensions. If possible, please participate in shankatahara chaturthi pooja that falls on the fourth night of every poornima in a local ganesha temple and after the pooja, see the moon. Please note that there is another chaturthi that falls on the 4th day of amavasya and it is NOT advisable to see the moon on this day.
Hope this gives some relief to you.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Firstly, I would like to tell you that there are certain combinations in your chart and my chart that matches exactly, because we both are 79 born. Exalted Jupiter in cancer and Saturn-Rahu conjunction in leo. Though the placement of the planets in the rashis are same for us, due to the different ascendants we have, due to the placement of moon in different houses and due to the placement of these common grahas in different nakshatras, we are facing the results of this common placements on different areas of our lives. My Saturn maha dasha had been full of challenges as well and the challenges have been passed over from Saturn maha dasha to Mercury maha dasha that I am currently going through and Mercury being a functional malefic in my horoscope has decided to continue with the challenging trend set up by Saturn. Therefore, I am of the opinion that almost all 79 born, due to the conjunction of Saturn-Rahu in leo and exalted Jupiter in cancer, have been undergoing a lot of challenges and transformations in different areas of our lives. So you are not alone in this journey. With time and with continued prayers, we will definitely overcome the challenges and get the blessings of Saturn. Saturn, being a slow planet usually delays things on the areas concerning the house he sits and aspects and expects discipline and perseverance, but once we adhere to his demands he never denies his blessings. Therefore, stay positive!
Regarding your other queries, I am sorry to say that I do not have the eligibility and knowledge to read intensively about such sensitive matters relating to children and I do not want to make any mistakes in my attempts to give some reading and intentionally or unintentionally misguide you due to my lack of knowledge. I totally understand and respect your worries and curiosity as a mother on the welfare of your child and I do not want to consciously or unconsciously make any mistakes that might hurt your feelings or give false promises due to my lack of experience. Therefore, please forgive me and I would suggest you to seek the guidance of some well experienced members like Ramanan ji, Shilpa ji and Elipsis Ji. I learn a lot from their knowledge and also Ramanan ji and Shilpa ji have analyzed my chart and helped me with their guidance. I would therefore suggest you to divert your queries to them in the free readings section.
However I can tell you somethings which I am totally certain about your chart. You DO NOT have KSY or KYD in your chart because Jupiter is outside the nexus of Rahu and Ketu axis and therefore you do not have to worry on that front. Whatever you had experienced in your Saturn dasha is something that your soul had to experience in this birth because saturn is your yogi and he is in a parivarthana yoga with the sun who represents the soul. Since saturn is in the shravana nakshatra that belongs to the moon, your mind perceives it with a lot of depression and mental suffering. Since moon is in your 6th house with kethu, please believe in lord ganesha and he would remove all the obstacles/sufferings and his blessings would relieve all the mental tensions. If possible, please participate in shankatahara chaturthi pooja that falls on the fourth night of every poornima in a local ganesha temple and after the pooja, see the moon. Please note that there is another chaturthi that falls on the 4th day of amavasya and it is NOT advisable to see the moon on this day.
Hope this gives some relief to you.
Regards,
Prakruthi
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2002diksha
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ashbuntyji,
please dont worry about the said kalsarpa yoga. even my brother has kalsarpa yoga. he did have to face many small hurdles in life.but with strong will power and hard work he was able to come out all those and today he is doing very well. so kalsarpa yoga will not take away your destiny . if you are destined to do great things in life then kalsarpa yoga will will not alter that.It only creats minor hiccups which over a period of time vanishes away and you will lead a peaceful and happy life.
regards
please dont worry about the said kalsarpa yoga. even my brother has kalsarpa yoga. he did have to face many small hurdles in life.but with strong will power and hard work he was able to come out all those and today he is doing very well. so kalsarpa yoga will not take away your destiny . if you are destined to do great things in life then kalsarpa yoga will will not alter that.It only creats minor hiccups which over a period of time vanishes away and you will lead a peaceful and happy life.
regards
Prakruthi Jee
Can you comment about these charts, i posted some time back. But did not got any responses.
Can you comment about these charts, i posted some time back. But did not got any responses.
jolli wrote:Here are two charts with KSY....both are females
(1) 20 July 1976,8 40 Am Nowgong MP India
(2) 01 Aug 1982, 2 10 Pm, Dehradun (This one is suspected KSY)
Other thing i have observed is (not proven yet.collecting data)
(1) KSY is found mostly in female natives. or female natives with KSY get noticed more
(2) Moon being fastest planet escapes Rahu-Ketu axis first, normally. Normaly KSY has Moon-Ketu combination.
I was under the impression Ketu is the mathematical point where Lunar eclips happens. However have checked at NASA sight for Lunar Eclips date, time n place. It has not shown any lunar eclipse happening on DOB of various natives. i am confused.
You are welcome and sorry about the gender confusion, ashbunty ji. I always associate the curiosity and love towards children with mothers more than with fathers and you gave me a wake up call.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Regards,
Prakruthi
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Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
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ambjig wrote:Hi to all,
I want to know abt following details weather she is having KSY or not.
Birth date :-24th july 1979
birth time :-1.40 am
Birth place :-mumbai borivali
How will this KSy affect to her life ??
regards
jigs
Wow I never imagined that it would be this easy to find someone with the same planetary positions as my chart, but with a different lagna.
Internet has made the world too small to handle and searches in our lives quite easy.
Regards
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Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
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Namashkar forum members,
I am confused between Kaal Amrita Yoga and Kaala Sarpa Yoga. Herehttp://jyotish-blog.[NO EXTERNAL LINKS PLEASE].de/2006/01 ... -yoga.html, from these following lines,
Similarly, if I keep my finger on Kethu and move in a clockwise direction(Direct motion) which is the normal direction of planets in a south Indian chart (With an exception to retrograde planets), and if I encounter all the planets and lagna on my route to Rahu, then it is KAY.
If this is true, why does the author in his illustration say Mussolini has KSY and CV Raman has KAY. In Mussolini's chart, if I keep my finger on Rahu and move in a clock wise direction, the next celestial being(ignoring lagna) I encounter is Kethu. This should be KAY as per the definition.Forget the functional benefics and lagna that he is talking about!
Similarly in Raman's chart, if I keep my finger on Rahu and move towards kethu in a clock wise direction, the next body I encounter is Mercury, Sun. This means the planets are beteen Rahu and Kethu and therefore this should be KSY. Just on the basis of the motion or rather the definition of planets between Rahu and Kethu or Kethu and Rahu, shouldn't Mussolini be a near KAY and Raman be KSY?
I think the author is just trying to fit in events of Mussolini and Raman through his own definitions of KSY and KAY, contradicting himself in terms of definition and coming up with new rules to make judgements. Just because Mussolini is being perceived as a cruel dictator, the author cannot accept that he could have KAY and therefore uses the terms functional malefic/benefic to somehow cook it up and make it a KSY.
Same is the case with his inferences about CV Raman's chart. Most of the times I am really fed up with these astrologers who just try to cook up, manipulate and fit things to match according to their beliefs, forgetting about the adherence to basic definitions
I think the example given in this link is correct http://kalachakram.com/Kalasarpadosha.htm.
Can you learned astrologers, clarify this to me please? Is the explanation in link 2 correct?
Thank you
Regards,
Prakruthi
I am confused between Kaal Amrita Yoga and Kaala Sarpa Yoga. Herehttp://jyotish-blog.[NO EXTERNAL LINKS PLEASE].de/2006/01 ... -yoga.html, from these following lines,
kala Sarpa yoga arises only if all the planets are hemmed in between Raahu and Ketu (Check from Rahu to Ketu in a clockwise fashion in South-Indian style charts) and if all planets are hemmed in between Ketu and Raahu (check from Ketu to Rahu in clockwise fashion) Kaala Amruta Yoga arises which is highly beneficial.
I understand that if I keep my finger on Rahu and move in the clock wise direction(Direct motion) which is the normal direction of planetary movements in a South Indian chart (With an exception to retrograde planets), then if I see planets and lagna on my route to Kethu, then it is KSYIf all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu (the most commonly accepted version of Kaala Sarpa Yoga), the individual faces much hardship in his mundane life and when he attains success in life, he is so embittered that he becomes too materialistic or revolutionary in his attitudes. On the other hand, if all the planets are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu (which also gives rise to kala sarpa yoga though of a lesser intensity), the individual's life struggles urge him towards renunciation, impractical ideals and spirituality to
the exclusion of the normal routines of mundane life.
Similarly, if I keep my finger on Kethu and move in a clockwise direction(Direct motion) which is the normal direction of planets in a south Indian chart (With an exception to retrograde planets), and if I encounter all the planets and lagna on my route to Rahu, then it is KAY.
If this is true, why does the author in his illustration say Mussolini has KSY and CV Raman has KAY. In Mussolini's chart, if I keep my finger on Rahu and move in a clock wise direction, the next celestial being(ignoring lagna) I encounter is Kethu. This should be KAY as per the definition.Forget the functional benefics and lagna that he is talking about!
Similarly in Raman's chart, if I keep my finger on Rahu and move towards kethu in a clock wise direction, the next body I encounter is Mercury, Sun. This means the planets are beteen Rahu and Kethu and therefore this should be KSY. Just on the basis of the motion or rather the definition of planets between Rahu and Kethu or Kethu and Rahu, shouldn't Mussolini be a near KAY and Raman be KSY?
I think the author is just trying to fit in events of Mussolini and Raman through his own definitions of KSY and KAY, contradicting himself in terms of definition and coming up with new rules to make judgements. Just because Mussolini is being perceived as a cruel dictator, the author cannot accept that he could have KAY and therefore uses the terms functional malefic/benefic to somehow cook it up and make it a KSY.
Same is the case with his inferences about CV Raman's chart. Most of the times I am really fed up with these astrologers who just try to cook up, manipulate and fit things to match according to their beliefs, forgetting about the adherence to basic definitions
I think the example given in this link is correct http://kalachakram.com/Kalasarpadosha.htm.
Can you learned astrologers, clarify this to me please? Is the explanation in link 2 correct?
Thank you
Regards,
Prakruthi
Aakaashaath Pathitham Thoyam, Yatha Gacchathi Saagaram.
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
jolli wrote:Prakruthi Jee
Can you comment about these charts, i posted some time back. But did not got any responses.
jolli wrote:Here are two charts with KSY....both are females
(1) 20 July 1976,8 40 Am Nowgong MP India
(2) 01 Aug 1982, 2 10 Pm, Dehradun (This one is suspected KSY)
Other thing i have observed is (not proven yet.collecting data)
(1) KSY is found mostly in female natives. or female natives with KSY get noticed more
(2) Moon being fastest planet escapes Rahu-Ketu axis first, normally. Normaly KSY has Moon-Ketu combination.
I was under the impression Ketu is the mathematical point where Lunar eclips happens. However have checked at NASA sight for Lunar Eclips date, time n place. It has not shown any lunar eclipse happening on DOB of various natives. i am confused.
Jolly ji,
Namashkar, I will definitely look into this and reply very soon. Sorry for the delay.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Aakaashaath Pathitham Thoyam, Yatha Gacchathi Saagaram.
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
Hello forum members,
I have another question regarding this KSY. The birth chart represents the position of the planets at the time of a person's birth. This is not the planetary position at the time the baby decided to take its form in the mother's womb. The planetary positions are not fixed and as the baby enters the world, its karmic debts unfolds as a function of time, which we in our Indian astrology interpret using the dashas. Therefore if the planets are hemmed between the nodes at the time the baby comes out of the mother's womb and if we agree that such a position of the nodes and planets are not fixed for the entire life of the baby, then how can astrologers say that native would suffer for these many years because of this hemming?
In my understanding, if at the time of birth, the planets are hemmed between the nodes, that hemming is temporary and could just change in few minutes/ hours time, as the planets are in constant motion. As the planets move, we never see in the natives chart, the movement of the planets in synchronization with the movement of the nodes and therefore, for one to say for example that a baby born at a time when the planets are hemmed between the nodes would not enjoy it's life till 35 years, it should be reflected in the chart in such a way for the next 35 years, the planets should be hemmed between the nodes. But we do not see this in reality.
Furthermore, if we look at the charts of people who were not born at the time when the planets were hemmed between the nodes, even in their lives there comes a transit time(gochara) when the planets would be hemmed between the nodes. Therefore, with constant motion of planets and the nodes, every baby born on this planet would have period of life when the planets would be hemmed between the nodes in their chart.
Therefore,if we go by the basic rules of astrology, is it appropriate to declare without a shadow of doubt that a baby born at the time of this confluence of planets to suffer for a specific period of time ?
What are your opinions on this?
Thank you and sorry if it sounds too amateur!
Regards,
Prakruthi
I have another question regarding this KSY. The birth chart represents the position of the planets at the time of a person's birth. This is not the planetary position at the time the baby decided to take its form in the mother's womb. The planetary positions are not fixed and as the baby enters the world, its karmic debts unfolds as a function of time, which we in our Indian astrology interpret using the dashas. Therefore if the planets are hemmed between the nodes at the time the baby comes out of the mother's womb and if we agree that such a position of the nodes and planets are not fixed for the entire life of the baby, then how can astrologers say that native would suffer for these many years because of this hemming?
In my understanding, if at the time of birth, the planets are hemmed between the nodes, that hemming is temporary and could just change in few minutes/ hours time, as the planets are in constant motion. As the planets move, we never see in the natives chart, the movement of the planets in synchronization with the movement of the nodes and therefore, for one to say for example that a baby born at a time when the planets are hemmed between the nodes would not enjoy it's life till 35 years, it should be reflected in the chart in such a way for the next 35 years, the planets should be hemmed between the nodes. But we do not see this in reality.
Furthermore, if we look at the charts of people who were not born at the time when the planets were hemmed between the nodes, even in their lives there comes a transit time(gochara) when the planets would be hemmed between the nodes. Therefore, with constant motion of planets and the nodes, every baby born on this planet would have period of life when the planets would be hemmed between the nodes in their chart.
Therefore,if we go by the basic rules of astrology, is it appropriate to declare without a shadow of doubt that a baby born at the time of this confluence of planets to suffer for a specific period of time ?
What are your opinions on this?
Thank you and sorry if it sounds too amateur!
Regards,
Prakruthi
Aakaashaath Pathitham Thoyam, Yatha Gacchathi Saagaram.
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
