Celestial Drama in Libra

[basab14]

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[manya]

By the way, IF VRY gives results due to someone's death, is there a way to find out who will die in my case for yoga to get effective? To be honest, I hate this yoga.

[Inderjeet]

@ akanksha...
do not get too much attached with VRY or for that matter any yoga that you are being told... I haven't seen too many yogas working in chart even if they are being seen by astrologer.. most of the time chart is interpreted on the basis of what native is telling and accordingly you will be told the kind of yoga u have in ur chart..
beauty lies when an astrologer tells just by looking at the chart without asking too much personal questions, more a native tells about his/her life, more biased will be predictions....

[howzat]

by Inderjeet » 28 Nov 2012 11:31
@ howzat
Exactly, Howazt, you said it correctly, that it is JHORA which is telling VRY in the chart. You seem to be simply entering the data in JHORA and telling here whatever JHORA is telling you, also JHORA is not telling the size of VRY, whether it is chicken size, mutton size or sooooper prime minister size.

dear inderjeet - it is common sense - that size of yoga is done by astrologers - not softwares. it is also common sense that JHORA is simply showing the combination - not showing that if it is coming true or not. I know.

what you told?

by Inderjeet » 27 Nov 2012 22:47
You analysed chart of akanksha2807 and suggested vipreet raja yoga in the chart...
This is what Mr. PVRN Rao has to say about the vipreet raja yoga:
vipreet rajayoga happens if
(a) 6/8/12 lords are together or in samasaptaka in dusthana without associating with other planets
(b) 6/8/12 lords are together or in samasaptaka in quadrants and a strong lagna lord joins them
Vipreet raja yoga you are referring is (a) but Sun (lagna lord) and Mer (11 & 2 L) are also there interfering in 12H, the yoga seems to have been cancelled....

for that I gave you example of prime minister rao -

by howzat » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:39 pm
Dear neel Kumar - i will give you example of viparita raja yoga ok - you see down
28th of June 1921 at 12:49′ PM LMT in Karimnagar, India (Long:79E09′, Lat:18N26′).
lagna is Virgo 24.19
he became prime minister when Rajiv Gandhi blow to pieces in bomb blast. what dasha you know is running for Rao ji? 8L dasha. Kuja Maha - Rahu Antar - 8L Kuja is with 12L Surya in 10H with 10L Budha. Shani 6l is in 12H aspecting 6H and aspecting Rahu.

here you see - 8l Kuja is with 12L surya in 10h with Budha who is LL and 10 L - he became prime minister in Kuja Maha dasha. see interference of Budha in the VRY. still it has worked.

see what you said - about PVRN Rao Saheb saying that vipreet rajayoga happens if
(a) 6/8/12 lords are together or in samasaptaka in dusthana without associating with other planets
(b) 6/8/12 lords are together or in samasaptaka in quadrants and a strong lagna lord joins them

is not correct - it can also happen if - (as told by himself) -

Viparita Raja Yoga D-1 Sa success after pressures or someone else's losses 6th lord in 8th or 12th
Viparita Raja Yoga D-1 Mo Success after pressures or someone else's losses 12th lord in 6th or 8th

now see condition (b) as given by you - 6/8/12 lords are together or in samasaptaka in quadrants and a strong lagna lord joins them

where is question of cancel of yoga then? In case of prime minister Rao - Lagna lord only interfering in VRY.

it is told everywhere that in Viparita raja yoga - other grahas must not be there. then it is not a pure Viparita raja yoga. - but i am seeing - to date - no text has given this condition. if you come across in any text - then please let me know. I will be thankful to you always. i think only Phaladeepika told this yoga. if this condition there means please tell. may be i am not reading properly.

[manya]

Inderjeet,

What is ur say on my chart? I gave you the details of my abroad stay....does it match?

[krishnendu12das]

thanks for the reply saindhavi ji ,

Robbers trying to kill him was because of malefic Rahu.

we were actually worried because the police said that since the robbers got caught because of my father they might again try to kill him for revenge but the police assured that they will present the case in such a manner that the robbers will be jailed for atleast 10 yrs .

but these criminals you know , they have contacts with other criminals also . that's why my mother was very much worried .

[manya]

Howzat ji,
Incase VRY is there, then Sat and Moon periods should give some success to me...
So far, Saturn period has given abroad stay and marriage + Humiliation. But Moon periods i havent seen any success except tensions...

[Inderjeet]

@ akanksha..
give me time before i say...

[howzat]

by akanksha2807 » 27 Nov 2012 19:28
Thanks for your analysis and your efforts. I hope I am not troubling you by so many questions.
U said -push rahu...what does it mean? And I am in India only...and do not see any chances to go abroad...

madam when i said push rahu i meant - you some how face this antar of Rahu. since astam shani is also running - little difficult. lot of mind pressure is there.

and in begining only i asked if you are abroad means. yes no? you have very good yoga for foreign madam. you dont worry. you have nice chart ok. you be strong.

brother inderjeet is saying - you not believe yoga and all. may be that is style of his. mine style is to see yoga first. I am looking at chart only from yoga and other combination. what is matter means - last - you must get effect. what we are doing astrologer kit kit - not important. i am sure that for you VRY is very good. you will get good result. you dont worry. god is there. you pray ok. every thing will be fine finally.

ok bye.

[Inderjeet]

@ howzat ...
Tnx for ur reply..exactly u said it right.. but u know, again the chart is being interpreted by knowing the personality, like u r referring the chart of prime minister Rao.. but the same VRY will not be found working in chart of a struggler...
About the other grahas being there or not, Mr. PVRN Rao saheb himself is telling on his forum, whatever I have quoted have read on his [No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum] page...
Let us put the question of VRY to Mr. PVRN Rao on his forum, for his clarification once and for all

[howzat]

by akanksha2807 » 28 Nov 2012 12:12
Howzat ji,
Incase VRY is there, then Sat and Moon periods should give some success to me...
So far, Saturn period has given abroad stay and marriage + Humiliation. But Moon periods i havent seen any success except tensions...

see madam - foreign stay and marriage he gave - humiliation how he gave i dont know. may be you are feeling like that. you are saying you not got success - but still you are going abroad and getting married. - see now in astam shani + neech Ketu + Neech Rahu antar - like this only happening no. that is why i told - some how you do prayer and push Rahu antar. then all become better. i am telling you madam. yours is good horoscope.

somewhere you told - i hate this yoga. correctly you have told. some days before you told - i told - this VRY planet - he is only hitting on head and body with danda - then he is only putting mulam and patti - and giving free gift - how much one person can take like that. i am also understanding. i am also not saying this yoga is very good - good and all. but yoga is yoga no - in end result is fruit only. now thorn means after fruit only no? at least after so much troubles - something is coming.

this yoga no better than neech planet with no neech bhang. one example i will give - one lady no - shukra dasha - started last year. LL and 6 lord - Shukra neech - no bhanga at all. neech means total 27 degree neech. not this side not that side. correct 27. something. what tough no life for her. you must see - your life no will be super life. like that.

[Nitin21]

simpley like hippopotomus having bath in pond dont write. hippo is what you know - whole day in bathroom in pond - peoples thinking he is very very clean boy. when he is coming out - more dirty than yesterday. like that this thread is. writing writing - nothing is happening result.

[Yogi7]

Dear Howzat ji and other learned Astrologers,

Since VRY discussion is happening here, Can you please let me know whether VRY exists in my chart w.r.t 8th house?

Birth details:
Date: Oct 15,1987
Time: 17:17
Place :Tiruchirapalli, TN.
I have created a topic regarding this in Special Rules section, awaiting response.


Thanks.

[howzat]

by Inderjeet » 28 Nov 2012 12:28
@ howzat ...
Tnx for ur reply..exactly u said it right.. but u know, again the chart is being interpreted by knowing the personality, like u r referring the chart of prime minister Rao.. but the same VRY will not be found working in chart of a struggler...
About the other grahas being there or not, Mr. PVRN Rao saheb himself is telling on his forum, whatever I have quoted have read on his [No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum] page...
Let us put the question of VRY to Mr. PVRN Rao on his forum, for his clarification once and for all.

dear inderjeet - that prime minister horoscope no - Pt Sanjay Rath ji discussed. what I can say? still you ask. let us see. His guru only told means what i can say?

http://srath.com/celebrity/p-v-narasimha-rao/


many many interpretation is there dear Inderjeet - i gave example of three different effect of VRY - one of widow - one of prime minister - one of chicken lover. like that many many interpretations is there. when you feel necessary - then apply. I do that only.

you are saying same yoga is found in struggler. i will ask one question. in two hour that prime minister is born - many many peoples are also having same yoga as him - why because - lagna is in same rasi. why only for him it is working? nicely you have asked question. -

see horoscope is showing potential. how person is using potential - that is depend upon him. potential is not there means - how much if he do also - result is ordinary. but - if effort is in right direction - potential is there - best result. maybe for him - this yoga worked because he is focus on politics - may be for others - it is working in organisation in which they are working. like that we have to see.

[basab14]

Howzat,

Which ascendant of Swami Vivekananda do you think is correct: Saggitarius or Capricorn?

[howzat]

dear Inderjeet

Another example of the second type of VRY is Sri PV Narasimha Rao, India's late Prime Minister who triggered reforms that changed India's destiny. He had 8th lord Mars and 12th lord Sun in 10th with lagna lord Mercury (in OWN sign, just like Obama). He unexpectedly became India's Prime Minister in Mars Vimsottati dasa and had great accomplishments amid chaos.

who wrote that you know? Great Astrologer - PVNarasimha Rao Saheb only wrote that.(not prime minister )

[howzat]

dear Yellow - most clever intelligent valid and kaam ki cheez question you have asked. which is Swami Vivekanandas horoscope lagna?

i will tell see - you look down

he was born on 12 January 1863 - 6.33AM at Kolkata. confusion is where you know? i will tell see - confusion - LMT and IST. here only. what is correct? LMT is correct. so - LMT put means - getting Sagittarius lagna. IST put means getting Capricorn.

correct - Sagittarus lagna.

ok bye.

[basab14]

Howzat,

I have seen many charts where VRY didn't show results. It gave struggle to the people having them during its periods, but no success after that. So I don't think it works, always. If you see Akansha ji's chart, though it has VRY, it has not given any good result to her. By the way, do you think I have a VRY in my chart? Someone told me that 8th lord in the 8th house is a VRY, which I have, but I don't think it is so, as I have not read about it anywhere. As you have a good theoretical knowledge in the subject, I thought of asking and clarifying it from you.

You are writing some really interesting posts on astrology--really enjoying reading them.

[basab14]

Howzat,

Thanks for confirming that Saggitarius is the correct ascendant for Swami Vivekananda. K.N. Rao has used Saggitarius ascendant for his chart, too. The chart makes sense completely, except about one thing. He died very early, at the age of 39. Why was it so when his ascendant is not afflicted at all?

[KET]

simpley like hippopotomus having bath in pond dont write. hippo is what you know - whole day in bathroom in pond - peoples thinking he is very very clean boy. when he is coming out - more dirty than yesterday. like that this thread is. writing writing - nothing is happening result.

Howzat ji...

Your way of explaining VRY... I kept my two legs upside on my chair and laughed and slipped off on the ground and yet continued laughing

.... No wonder this thread also making the VRY story.... from Libra

[uniquev]

[Yogi7]

Dear Learned Astrologers,

Please reply my query too.I am new to forum, It would be encouraging to see your replies.

[manya]

somewhere you told - i hate this yoga. correctly you have told. some days before you told - i told - this VRY planet - he is only hitting on head and body with danda - then he is only putting mulam and patti - and giving free gift - how much one person can take like that. i am also understanding. i am also not saying this yoga is very good - good and all. but yoga is yoga no - in end result is fruit only. now thorn means after fruit only no? at least after so much troubles - something is coming.

Howzat ji,

I said i hate this yoga if it means that someone has to die to make my life comfortable, and if that someone is in my close circle how come i will enjoy the fruits that i will get after that someone's death????

Now even if it is chicken who has to be cooked to satisfy someone's desire, why would i want even chicken to die at first place?

this yoga no better than neech planet with no neech bhang. one example i will give - one lady no - shukra dasha - started last year. LL and 6 lord - Shukra neech - no bhanga at all. neech means total 27 degree neech. not this side not that side. correct 27. something. what tough no life for her. you must see - your life no will be super life. like that.

Request you to please explain this further, i was not able to translate what u were trying to say here....

is it that if person has debilitated planet will have no life that he does not know what joy is OR it is that teh person will have extremely difficult life?

[leo]

Hi Howzat,

What sort of VRV would it be if 8th lord Jupiter goes Deb in 6th house. Will it be more and more beating for me with out any marhham putti ?

Regards,

dear Inderjeet

Another example of the second type of VRY is Sri PV Narasimha Rao, India's late Prime Minister who triggered reforms that changed India's destiny. He had 8th lord Mars and 12th lord Sun in 10th with lagna lord Mercury (in OWN sign, just like Obama). He unexpectedly became India's Prime Minister in Mars Vimsottati dasa and had great accomplishments amid chaos.

who wrote that you know? Great Astrologer - PVNarasimha Rao Saheb only wrote that.(not prime minister )

[Moits007]

Hi Howzat,

What sort of VRV would it be if 8th lord Jupiter goes Deb in 6th house. Will it be more and more beating for me with out any marhham putti ?

Leo,

When dushthana lord is debilitated in another dushthana, it gives solid Vipreet Raj yog.

Debilitation of 8th lord is not good for longetivity but, in your case, it goes to 6th house implying good health and prosperity.



Regards