Vaughnji,
Quoting from the article: "Even with his health problems his career still sky-rocketed. Notice how Saturn is also aspected by his powerful Mars from the 10th house."
Is Saturn giving the effect of 10th house just because it is aspected by the 10th lord Mars or also because it is aspected by Mars from the 10th house?
Quoting again from the article: "Saturn as the 8th lord represents sex, and this is repeated because it is in the 8th sign of Scorpio."
Is the 7th house also the house of sex, and is Mars, like Venus, a significator of sex?
Quoting once more from the article: "He was not only a musician but a dancer and Mars/Venus connections are often seen in dancers."
Is Mars-Venus connection also seen in birth charts of performers?
Quoting from the article one last time: "It was in Saturn-Venus that the sexual abuse scandals surfaced, the planet romance."
The last part of the sentence is unclear.
Ref : "Michael Jackson: My Opinion about his Chart"
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lalanphakir
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Respected Mr. Vaughn and others,
If we get into the blame game, then I believe that the first person that can be blamed for Jacko's abnormality and insanity is his father. Do you think ketu's presence in the 9th house has caused this? Or is it because Jupiter, the Pitrikaraka, is aspected by Mars. If none of these are the reason, could you please let me know what can be the probable reason of this terrible relationship between a father and son.
best wishes
Lalan
If we get into the blame game, then I believe that the first person that can be blamed for Jacko's abnormality and insanity is his father. Do you think ketu's presence in the 9th house has caused this? Or is it because Jupiter, the Pitrikaraka, is aspected by Mars. If none of these are the reason, could you please let me know what can be the probable reason of this terrible relationship between a father and son.
best wishes
Lalan
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Vaughn Paul
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Hi Basab,
Here are my answers in upper case:
Is Saturn giving the effect of 10th house just because it is aspected by the 10th lord Mars or also because it is aspected by Mars from the 10th house? BOTH. A PLANET'S ASPECT CARRIES ITS FUNCTION IN THE CHART. MARS IS BOTH THE 10TH LORD AND IN THE 10TH HOUSE AS THE RAJA YOGA KARKA AND IN A RUCHAKA YOGA.
Quoting again from the article: "Saturn as the 8th lord represents sex, and this is repeated because it is in the 8th sign of Scorpio."
Is the 7th house also the house of sex, and is Mars, like Venus, a significator of sex?
BOTH THE 7TH AND 8TH HOUSE RELATE TO SEX, AND BOTH MARS AND VENUS RELATE TO SEX. VENUS IS THE 'URGE TO MERGE' AND MARS IS LUST. THE 7TH HOUSE IS RELATIONSHIP AND THE 8TH HOUSE IS GENITALS.
Quoting once more from the article: "He was not only a musician but a dancer and Mars/Venus connections are often seen in dancers."
Is Mars-Venus connection also seen in birth charts of performers? ESPECIALLY DANCERS BECAUSE MARS IS PHYSICALLY ACTIVE.
Quoting from the article one last time: "It was in Saturn-Venus that the sexual abuse scandals surfaced, the planet romance." The last part of the sentence is unclear.
I'VE EDITED THIS SENTENCE IN THE ARTICLE:
"It was in Saturn-Venus that the sexual abuse scandals surfaced, with Venus being the planet of romance, and sex (along with Mars)."
http://lightonvedicastrology.com/dailyj ... 070109.htm
Vaughn Paul
Here are my answers in upper case:
Is Saturn giving the effect of 10th house just because it is aspected by the 10th lord Mars or also because it is aspected by Mars from the 10th house? BOTH. A PLANET'S ASPECT CARRIES ITS FUNCTION IN THE CHART. MARS IS BOTH THE 10TH LORD AND IN THE 10TH HOUSE AS THE RAJA YOGA KARKA AND IN A RUCHAKA YOGA.
Quoting again from the article: "Saturn as the 8th lord represents sex, and this is repeated because it is in the 8th sign of Scorpio."
Is the 7th house also the house of sex, and is Mars, like Venus, a significator of sex?
BOTH THE 7TH AND 8TH HOUSE RELATE TO SEX, AND BOTH MARS AND VENUS RELATE TO SEX. VENUS IS THE 'URGE TO MERGE' AND MARS IS LUST. THE 7TH HOUSE IS RELATIONSHIP AND THE 8TH HOUSE IS GENITALS.
Quoting once more from the article: "He was not only a musician but a dancer and Mars/Venus connections are often seen in dancers."
Is Mars-Venus connection also seen in birth charts of performers? ESPECIALLY DANCERS BECAUSE MARS IS PHYSICALLY ACTIVE.
Quoting from the article one last time: "It was in Saturn-Venus that the sexual abuse scandals surfaced, the planet romance." The last part of the sentence is unclear.
I'VE EDITED THIS SENTENCE IN THE ARTICLE:
"It was in Saturn-Venus that the sexual abuse scandals surfaced, with Venus being the planet of romance, and sex (along with Mars)."
http://lightonvedicastrology.com/dailyj ... 070109.htm
Vaughn Paul
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Vaughn Paul
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Hi Lalan,
Here are my answers in upper case:
If we get into the blame game, then I believe that the first person that can be blamed for Jacko's abnormality and insanity is his father. Do you think ketu's presence in the 9th house has caused this?
YES, IT'S ONE FACTOR. SATURN'S ASPECT ON THE SUN IS ANOTHER, AND MARS' ASPECT ON THE 9TH LORD JUPITER AND PITIRIKARAKA IS ANOTHER. JACKSON SAYS HE WAS PHYSICALLY ABUSED BY HIS DAD, WHICH MARS ASPECT COULD GIVE.
Vaughn Paul
Here are my answers in upper case:
If we get into the blame game, then I believe that the first person that can be blamed for Jacko's abnormality and insanity is his father. Do you think ketu's presence in the 9th house has caused this?
YES, IT'S ONE FACTOR. SATURN'S ASPECT ON THE SUN IS ANOTHER, AND MARS' ASPECT ON THE 9TH LORD JUPITER AND PITIRIKARAKA IS ANOTHER. JACKSON SAYS HE WAS PHYSICALLY ABUSED BY HIS DAD, WHICH MARS ASPECT COULD GIVE.
Vaughn Paul
Hi Vaughn Paulji,
I enjoyed reading your article on Michael Jackson. Your identification of his birth time seems accurate to me. The overall analysis is brilliant and the chart co-relates accurately with his real life events. Keep up the good work.
I have heard a saying to the effect that "one who has Saturn in 5H
will eat from a tile" (instead of a plate) meaning he will be poor and miserable. Michael Jackson's slide from riches to rags, the fact that
he had to "beg" from banks to lend him money using 20 different names and the fact that he had huge debts when he died his tragic death seems to be a classic example of Saturn in 5H making him poor and miserable.
Finally, I have seen Saturn's aspect on Sun giving a "sudden end" in more ways than one. In some cases, the person has a sudden death usually around the age of 50. If longevity is good, the career may end suddenly
or the person may exit the limelight suddenly. Some sort of "end" is imposed by Saturn which "seals" the fate. I have come across one case where the person has Saturn in Saggitarius and Sun in Gemini, he was just 48, fighting fit and had a sudden death due to a massive heart attack.
One other case, Sun in Leo with Saturn in Scorpio, the native exited from the limelight suddenly, his career began with a bang and ended with a whimper. In a third case, the native's marriage ended suddenly, she had Saturn in Lagna in Saggitarius with Sun and Mercury in the 7H.
Regards,
Ashok
I enjoyed reading your article on Michael Jackson. Your identification of his birth time seems accurate to me. The overall analysis is brilliant and the chart co-relates accurately with his real life events. Keep up the good work.
I have heard a saying to the effect that "one who has Saturn in 5H
will eat from a tile" (instead of a plate) meaning he will be poor and miserable. Michael Jackson's slide from riches to rags, the fact that
he had to "beg" from banks to lend him money using 20 different names and the fact that he had huge debts when he died his tragic death seems to be a classic example of Saturn in 5H making him poor and miserable.
Finally, I have seen Saturn's aspect on Sun giving a "sudden end" in more ways than one. In some cases, the person has a sudden death usually around the age of 50. If longevity is good, the career may end suddenly
or the person may exit the limelight suddenly. Some sort of "end" is imposed by Saturn which "seals" the fate. I have come across one case where the person has Saturn in Saggitarius and Sun in Gemini, he was just 48, fighting fit and had a sudden death due to a massive heart attack.
One other case, Sun in Leo with Saturn in Scorpio, the native exited from the limelight suddenly, his career began with a bang and ended with a whimper. In a third case, the native's marriage ended suddenly, she had Saturn in Lagna in Saggitarius with Sun and Mercury in the 7H.
Regards,
Ashok
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Basab
Vaughnji,
I am sorry I am asking this question so late, but I thought I had to know: what's the astrological reason behind MJ's Rahu sub-period (in his Jupiter major period) giving him such huge success as he got with the release of his album 'Thriller' during that time?
I am sorry I am asking this question so late, but I thought I had to know: what's the astrological reason behind MJ's Rahu sub-period (in his Jupiter major period) giving him such huge success as he got with the release of his album 'Thriller' during that time?
[quote="Basab"]Vaughnji,
I am sorry I am asking this question so late, but I thought I had to know: what's the astrological reason behind MJ's Rahu sub-period (in his Jupiter major period) giving him such huge success as he got with the release of his album 'Thriller' during that time?[/quote]
Dear Basab,
How are you? You know I am nothing in Astrology. But just wanted to share my opinion on MJ's life.
Rahu is his Atma Karak. I know you do not consider RA as AK. But it is practical that RA is his AK. During his period, RA being AK gave him huge success. But overall, RA as AK will give disappointments, sorrows and struggles having done SIN and mistakes knowingly in past life. But RA as AK gave him courage to do what he feels is right and hence the detachment from his father and doing things radically.
Please pardon me if I am wrong.
I am sorry I am asking this question so late, but I thought I had to know: what's the astrological reason behind MJ's Rahu sub-period (in his Jupiter major period) giving him such huge success as he got with the release of his album 'Thriller' during that time?[/quote]
Dear Basab,
How are you? You know I am nothing in Astrology. But just wanted to share my opinion on MJ's life.
Rahu is his Atma Karak. I know you do not consider RA as AK. But it is practical that RA is his AK. During his period, RA being AK gave him huge success. But overall, RA as AK will give disappointments, sorrows and struggles having done SIN and mistakes knowingly in past life. But RA as AK gave him courage to do what he feels is right and hence the detachment from his father and doing things radically.
Please pardon me if I am wrong.
Hi SriRama,
Thanks for your feedback and query.
Birth details are welcome to enable a more detailed scrutiny.
Sun karaka for Lagna is also Lagna Lord conjunct Rahu and
in opposition to retrograde Saturn who happens to be 6 & 7L.
Health problems seem likely.
Regards,
Ashok
Thanks for your feedback and query.
Birth details are welcome to enable a more detailed scrutiny.
Sun karaka for Lagna is also Lagna Lord conjunct Rahu and
in opposition to retrograde Saturn who happens to be 6 & 7L.
Health problems seem likely.
Regards,
Ashok
