Celestial Drama in Libra

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Should I trust, Satan or Rahu, Neel? With Rahu (cheat) conjunct Moon (mind) in my chart, I have it in me, I think, to be a good cheater. :lol: But then, I hope my plan doesn't backfire that instead of cheating the stars, I end up cheating my mind. :lol: By the way, Saturn in Libra is behaving like Satan these days... it's lived up to its name of being the king of disappointments. :lol: Let's see what Rahu does when it joins Saturn in Libra in transit. Being the king of illusions, it will, I guess, make us stay with the false belief for one and a half years more that Saturn will give us good results in it's transit in its exalted sign. :lol:
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Thanks saindhavijee I have started the process
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Yellow wrote:Should I trust, Satan or Rahu, Neel? With Rahu (cheat) conjunct my Moon (mind), I have it in me, I think, to be a good cheater. :) But then, I hope my plan doesn't backfire that instead of cheating the stars, I end up cheating my mind. :)
Dada aapni confused hocchen! Get your aims and priorities straight before you decide whom to cheat then..akdum chonno-chara re tumi guru :D Make sure you don't land up cheating not only your mind but also others on your 'revered/pious' path of your final cheating-destination, by the way. :D

Satan or Rahu..aami jaani naa..you are the astrologer!!
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Ha ha ha ha!! Daroon bolechen, Neel da. About astrologers, ora nijerai jane na nijeder ki hobe, ar choleche onnyoder rasta dekhate. :lol: By the way, here in Calcutta I remember one astrologer talking about a Channachara yoga. Rahu-Mars makes that yoga, if I am remembering correctly.
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Yellow wrote:Ha ha ha ha!! Daroon bolechen, Neel da. About astrologers, ora nijerai jane na nijeder ki hobe, ar choleche onnyoder rasta dekhate. :lol: By the way, here in Calcutta I remember one astrologer talking about a channachara yoga. Rahu-Mars together makes that yoga, if I am remembering correctly.
Akdum shotik kotha :mrgreen:

ChonnoChara yoga! :lol: You just made my afternoon! :lol: We must publicize it - probably one pseudo-intellectual contribution from the fish-eating so-called intelligent Bongs to the astrological community!
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He he he!! Seriously, I heard an astrologer say it on TV in an astrology show. Actually, quite a few astrologers said that in their astrology shows. It's 2004-2005 I am talking about. I used to watch those shows a lot at that time. As per that astrologer, Saturn-Sun or Saturn-Moon was Beesh yoga. And Saturn-Rahu was Badha-bipotti yoga.
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Haha..I am laughing and my tummy is hurting :mrgreen:

But Basab, for our audience who don't understand Bengali here, can you please write in details about ChonnoChara Yoga? Like to start with - what does it mean/depict? And what happens if a native has ChonnoChara Yoga? How serious it is? Exceptions, Etc. Also the planetary combinations that you mentioned, again. :mrgreen:
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Sure, Neel. :)

In 2004-2005 I used to watch a lot of astrology shows on TV, which used to get telecasted in local channels in our city. The astrologers in those shows, talked about many yogas, which had some really scary names, to them, giving an idea about how dreadful they could be when one had them in their charts. I remember the name of some of them. They are as follows:

Channa-chara* yoga (Combination for unsettlement): Mars-Rahu conjunction in a chart gave that yoga. If a person had it, it was said, he would never be able to settle down in life. He would keep changing jobs and would never be able to have a steady career.

Beesh yoga (A poisonous combination): If Saturn-Sun or Saturn-Moon conjunction took place in a chart, it would give as much pain as a person would feel if he had taken poison.

Badha-bipotti yoga (Combination for obstacles and troubles): If Saturn-Rahu conjunction took place in a chart, it would give obstacles and troubles throughout life.

As per those astrologers if a person had any of the deadly combinations I have stated, he would be doomed for life, unless he did some remedies for them.
* I am not sure what the exact English meaning of the Bengali word 'channa chada' is. Neel, you know what it means exactly?
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SAINDHVI JI...

I have a query that i want to ask.. I am at present doing two different courses.. I want the other course to just be an added star to the resume. But i have been offered a job related to that course.. While i currently am employed in a very very low paying job for this course which i want to stay in. Would it be good to make the switch. If i clear my exams, i will be offered a very good package for this course which i want to stay in. I don't want to be stuck in a job for that course. But the employer has stated that when i clear the exams i can choose that field in their company itself.
Do you think i should make the switch. Combusted saturn was way better than the confusion and problems it has got me after being exalted.
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Yellow wrote: * I am not sure what the exact English meaning of the Bengali word 'channa chada' is. Neel, you know what it means exactly?
ChonnoChara means = a combination of all these: happy-go-lucky+tramp/vagabond/gypsy+unmarried (no marital bliss/unmarried)+fear to commit to lady love/relationship+unsettled (without own stable home and family)+street-smart+intelligent+generous+self-confident+aloof/proud+no strings attached+no commitments+free will+swaying with what time has to offer.

Hence, you may look at it as positive or negative - your choice.
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But as per the astrologer, a person having that yoga would never settle in his career, changing jobs all the time. He didn't say there would be anything negative other than that. Thanks for telling the meaning, though.
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Dada, 'unsettled' manaye hocche job/income unsettled/unstable. It is (maybe resultant) combination of all the elements that I mentioned as it's literal meaning.
But as I said, a lot many people may look at it positively too.
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Yes, you can say that, Neel. Your logic is correct.
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For you wearing pukhraj is good. It is param mitra tara. No worries. Chant Ram Raksha stotra too before hanumat stotra
Oh, I thought Jolli's Jupiter and mine Jup is same. What is param mitra and pratyak tara?

But I am wearing this pukhraj fro several years now, do I need to change it as it has become old and has scratches over it?
Akanshaji Pukhraj is not needed. But it is harmless to wear is what i meant. Better read stotras. Those will give you results
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astroduffer wrote:Venus and mercury are good for you to wear. No issues.

Blue sapphire will give obstacles in ventures undertaken.

Saturnine remedies needed to get results in Sat MD.

What is exact nature of your problem ? You can write on email too if you like.
Thanks for the reply, and I have also sent you an email.

I had always held that Saturn is good in my chart, what kind of Saturnine remedies do I need to do? BTW, I got the meaning of Saturnine as - [(of a person or their manner) Slow and gloomy]

Should I count on upcoming Sat/Ra being together in Libra (lagna) giving good results? Thanks.
Donate a new kambal, grains to a brahmin on saturday along with dakshina. til oil to shanidev temple. recite naalanjan samabhashan 108 times daily and two til oil diyas to saturn.

feb to june will be tough time then relief for sat + rahu.

again no remedies no change in situation.

if atheism, brahmin bashing, scriptures demeaning, wrong remedies etc activities then even in good time one's life will turn upside down.
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by astroduffer » 22 Nov 2012 17:28

if atheism, brahmin bashing, scriptures demeaning, wrong remedies etc activities then even in good time one's life will turn upside down.
correctly you have told Astroduffer sir. from now - you are respected astroduffer for me. how you told. super it is.
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Hi Saindhaviji..a female friend (Cp Asc) of mine faced lots of problem this year on career and health propective ....she has lost her job (semi govt org,can hav retired easily frm der, left due to internal politics) in feb 2012 and she was jobless for almost 6-7 months...she got a job recently but thats too only to keep her monthly salary going..not a gr8 job wrt to career growth..

Also she recently suffered from Jaundice and was hospitalized...and now she's been detected for herpes..

dob:- 06/10/1980,time:- 03:05 PM, Place:- Mumbai....

current Mars Dasha and Sun AD going on...can you throw some light on the condition considering the current celestial drama??

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astroduffer wrote:Donate a new kambal, grains to a brahmin on saturday along with dakshina. til oil to shanidev temple. recite naalanjan samabhashan 108 times daily and two til oil diyas to saturn.

feb to june will be tough time then relief for sat + rahu.

again no remedies no change in situation.

if atheism, brahmin bashing, scriptures demeaning, wrong remedies etc activities then even in good time one's life will turn upside down.
Thanks AstroD for the remedies. I am not into intentional bashing or demeaning of any kind. Wrong remedies could be there since it is difficult to cross check the perfect remedy. For instance someone told me to not donate in the name of Shani.

I was looking for more direct answers on Shani and Rahu position in my chart as to how they would be impacting me overall (Shani dasha being so long). And if any other alarming thing in my chart? Thanks.
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Takla bhaijaan all above answers are direct only. Correct Remedies also are gotten by doing service to the Lord. Anything in opposition to Shastras in the name of modern following is off track and induces brahma hatya dosha. The one who proposes such remedy shares the highest of the dosha while the one receiving if does unknowingly has chance to rectify.

During Shani MD good things to begin with are expected for you. But eventually distortion in final results. this will be off and on thing based on Jup position during gochar.

Your MD AD dates are different than Mine. You are running Sat-Sat since may 2010 till April 2013.
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by astroduffer » 22 Nov 2012 18:05
Correct Remedies also are gotten by doing service to the Lord. Anything in opposition to Shastras in the name of modern following is off track and induces brahma hatya dosha. The one who proposes such remedy shares the highest of the dosha while the one receiving if does unknowingly has chance to rectify.
astroduffer sir - why you are telling you are duffer? I am thinking you are luminary for this forums. you are most respected astro - i am not calling you duffer anymore.
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astroduffer wrote:Takla bhaijaan all above answers are direct only. Correct Remedies also are gotten by doing service to the Lord. Anything in opposition to Shastras in the name of modern following is off track and induces brahma hatya dosha. The one who proposes such remedy shares the highest of the dosha while the one receiving if does unknowingly has chance to rectify.

During Shani MD good things to begin with are expected for you. But eventually distortion in final results. this will be off and on thing based on Jup position during gochar.

Your MD AD dates are different than Mine. You are running Sat-Sat since may 2010 till April 2013.
GeoCentric/TruePosition/MeanMode in Jhora (that's a default setting) gives Sat-Sat from Nov-2011. And, that's what I had known all along. Of course, other planet calculation options in JHora may give different dates.

Please cross check if date/time were not the mismatch. Thanks
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One thing I would like to mention that dasha can never overwrite the effects on natal chart. Similarly, transit can never take over dasha effects. I recently read a very good analogy for Dasha and transit effect. Here it is:

As explained transit can never take dasha effects. It is like you are driving, here dasha acts as road and transit as weather. Couple of scenarios can take place,

- If the road is bad and the weather is good, you may not notice/feel the pain of the bad road while driving.
- If the road is good and the weather is bad, you will just drive cautiously
- If the road is bad and the weather is bad, you will feel the journey is stressing you out, you will feel the pain, stress, and ultimately will feel tired or give up. Depending upon your state of mind, you may either have an adverse event such as accident or you may just decide to take break and take public transportation.
- If the road is good and the weather is good, you will just open your windows, put on some good music and enjoy the drive.

Dasha and transit work somewhat similar. The choices you make depends on your level of maturity.
recisely because Dasha is important, I have asked people to give information about their Lagna, Rashi placement of Saturn-Rahu and Mahadasha combination running while giving feedback.

When I am responding to their feedback, I am taking into consideration their Mahadasha combination and chart placement of planets apart from transits.

In fact, more than Mahadasha combination, the planetary placements in Lagna chart are important. Dasha can never overtake the Lagna chart.

And in case of transits, Moon chart is generally taken as important, but now we are seeing from people's feedbacks that in many cases Lagna chart precedes over Moon chart - my own chart is a case in point. All the results in my chart are reflected in Lagna chart, never in Moon chart.

Having said all this, planets like Saturn and Rahu can greatly skew the Mahadasha results in transit - that is why their transits are seen outside the Mahadasha combination.

And if one sees, in most people's cases who are giving feedbacks, either or both Rahu and Saturn are causing the skewed results.

Even in "normal" cases, transits modify the Mahadasha combination results to some extent. This is why transits are important and this is why they are seen.
Explorings and Saindhavi ji,

Sorry I had not read these posts. I understand your intentions now. Thanks for clearing it up.
:)
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by astroduffer » 22 Nov 2012 18:05
Correct Remedies also are gotten by doing service to the Lord. Anything in opposition to Shastras in the name of modern following is off track and induces brahma hatya dosha. The one who proposes such remedy shares the highest of the dosha while the one receiving if does unknowingly has chance to rectify.
astroduffer sir - why you are telling you are duffer? I am thinking you are luminary for this forums. you are most respected astro - i am not calling you duffer anymore.
howzatbiya kuchh logaan daantt peesrey :mrgreen: ....
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Takla,

First understand what "Braahman" means -

One who knows the "Brahma" (ब्रह्म) is a "Braahman" (ब्राह्मण) - this is precisely the meaning of the word ब्राह्मण.

It has nothing to do with anyone's birth or caste.

There is a famous verse in Sanskrit, which says -

"By birth one is a Shudra

By going through the rites of passage one becomes a dvija

By practising the Vedas one is called "Vipra"

But you become a Braahman (ब्राह्मण) when you know the Brahma (ब्रह्म)."

There have never been many people who have known the Brahma i.e., ब्रह्म and certainly today in the entire world there may not be even a dozen people who truly know the Brahma or ब्रह्म.

If you ever come across such a person, consider yourself fortunate and really respect the person - whether man or woman.

All others who mislead the populace by claiming to be Braahman (ब्राह्मण) are no more than frauds and deserve no respect from anyone because of their birth or caste. There is no difference between them and others.

Aseem,

Thanks for that.

Sachin/Saky,

Transits are great for her now. But her Rahu Pratyantar seems to have created health problems. Rahu is malefic in her Lagna chart and also in transit. Virgo Saturn had also been aspecting Rahu since last year.

Her career situation will gradually improve especially after 12th of Jan.

Because of taking medications she cannot fast. So, she should get a priest to recite Durga Saptashati for her now and after this, every 2 Navaratris i.e., before Rama Navami and during Durga Puja.

She should also recite Gayatri Mantra 21 time daily, followed by Hanuman Chalisa, Mahamrityunjaya Mantra 21 times and Durga Suktam. She should also feed crows daily and do charity from time to time on a regular basis for poor, handicapped, orphans and menial workers.
Havan Manuals -

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12791&p=124553#p124488

hymns -

1 http://www.vignanam.org/

2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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hello saindhvi ji
a.rahu with sun is not considred good?
b.how saturn affecting my natal chart?
c. MY SATURN PRATYANTAR IS GOING TO START WITH THE START OF DECEMBER.
HOW WILL IT EFFECT WITH CURRENT TRANSIT?
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