Kala Sarpa Yoga/ My view's

[rehr]

thanks swamykool.

[astroboy]

Good day Rishi Rahul ji,

You said,

by rishirahul » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:19 pm
Kalsarpa yoga has alwaya been over rated like Manglik dosha; maybe due to the activity of greedy astrologers or astrologer who would like to scare people or negative minded astrologers.. etc etc.The basic point of Kalsarpa yoga is:= A balanced chart denotes a balanced life. If all planets are on one side of the nodes, the chart will be seen to have a dis-balanced look; which upsets the normal flow of life.
See Prash Trivedi's take on it:but they are usually are not able to do justice to their position because of their imbalanced personalities .
The nodes being in kendras amounts to troubles in the lifes progress; but other yogas WILL have their say.
The houses affected by nodal axis will have some disruptions and be difficulty in progressing smoothly.
RishiRahul

Nice of you to comment on this topic . Thank you . The whole Idea of writing this topic was to convey precisely what you have said here .
For more,
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... f=4&t=8585
Best regard's

[double00]

..some really good insights here astroboy! keep it up!!

[rishirahul]

Good day Rishi Rahul ji,

You said,

by rishirahul » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:19 pm
Kalsarpa yoga has alwaya been over rated like Manglik dosha; maybe due to the activity of greedy astrologers or astrologer who would like to scare people or negative minded astrologers.. etc etc.The basic point of Kalsarpa yoga is:= A balanced chart denotes a balanced life. If all planets are on one side of the nodes, the chart will be seen to have a dis-balanced look; which upsets the normal flow of life.
See Prash Trivedi's take on it:but they are usually are not able to do justice to their position because of their imbalanced personalities .
The nodes being in kendras amounts to troubles in the lifes progress; but other yogas WILL have their say.
The houses affected by nodal axis will have some disruptions and be difficulty in progressing smoothly.
RishiRahul

Nice of you to comment on this topic . Thank you . The whole Idea of writing this topic was to convey precisely what you have said here .
For more,
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... f=4&t=8585
Best regard's

Hi astroboy,

Your above post has been very lucidly explained; sorry for the delayed reply!

Svoboda and Prash Trivedi are very good writers.

RishiRahul

[astroboy]

Good day sir,

Thank you for your kind words .Means a lot comming from you .

Best regards,

[anuradha]

If somebody is so dedicated like him, [ late night and early morning ] he should be. regards

[astroboy]

Good day Anu ji,

I am in bangalore where the Net is available 24/7 . I do not have a net con Back home , Its only at the office. I did not install the net at home with Good reason. I would be on the forum 24/7 . Where would I get the time to read and study ? . Btw, I Picked up the "Surya Siddhanta" Translated by Ebenezer Burgess. He admits that there were several corrections made over the course of time with regard to the positions of the planets Even when SSS was in use . Srinivas Rao ji is of the opinion that the original texts have been corrupted to a great extent and doubts if any person really can compute the correct Positions based on SSS. I must add here that some people hold a very dim view of Ebenezer. .Will keep you Updated .I just started reading it .

Best regard's

[anilesh47]

Deepak sir,

Is it true that kaal sarp yoga effects start after the age of 32? In my case most of astrologer have said that due to kaal sarp yoga i have rise after 32. Do u think so?

[astroboy]

Good day Anilesh ji,

I have my own doubts. I feel that its "on" all the time . If its not Dasha Dependent, Then it cannot be age dependent

Best regards,

[anilesh47]

Thanks Deepakji.

[kasgan]

Dear Deepakji,

I have been told that I have KSY and surely looks like it. But few opine that due to conjunction and aspect of Jupiter KSY is not acute.

Can you share some light into it?

Dob 6JULY1976
pob Durgapur
tob 02.40 am

Look forward to your insight

Many thanks

Kaushik

[astroboy]

Good day Mahesh ji,

well , It's a clear cut case of K.S.Y. by definition. Its a good horoscope when you consider that the Yogakaraka Kuja is in the lagna. However Ravi the lagna lord in debilitation is a serious hit . I dont see any rule that can be applied for N.B.R.Y. here. Ravi is not in a Kendra from the Moon and nor is he in Kendra from the lagna . There is a great interest to mould and change your life for the better ( Lagna lord in the 3rd )but the K.S.Y. is a severe restraint is what I feel . Correct me if I am wrong .

[rishirahul]

Hi astroboy,

Why is lagna lord in the 3rd. a serious restraint? I am sure it is, but can I have your views please.

RishiRahul

[astroboy]

Good day Rishi Rahul ji,

I said the K.S.Y. is a severe restraint. Not the lagna lord in the 3rd .

by astroboy » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:06 am
There is a great interest to mould and change your life for the better ( Lagna lord in the 3rd )but the K.S.Y. is a severe restraint is what I feel

Any ways, since you bought the matter up. Lagna lord goes and falls in debilitation in the 3rd house of Initiative, courage, enterprise and perseverance. It cannot be good can it ? The 3rd house is the Pivot of the Upachaya houses . It's the house where all desires and wishes to improve ones circumstances originate . The lagna going and falling there does cause a loss to the individual . If the N.B.R.Y. was strong, I would have said that circumstances would improve with lot of effort . But in the light of the fact that the N.B.R.Y. is not worth writing home about, I have my reservations on the matter. Add K.S.Y..... things start getting tough . Let's see what Mahesh ji has to say .

Best regard's

[rishirahul]

Good day Rishi Rahul ji,

I said the K.S.Y. is a severe restraint. Not the lagna lord in the 3rd .

by astroboy » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:06 am
There is a great interest to mould and change your life for the better ( Lagna lord in the 3rd )but the K.S.Y. is a severe restraint is what I feel

Any ways, since you bought the matter up. Lagna lord goes and falls in debilitation in the 3rd house of Initiative, courage, enterprise and perseverance. It cannot be good can it ? The 3rd house is the Pivot of the Upachaya houses . It's the house where all desires and wishes to improve ones circumstances originate . The lagna going and falling there does cause a loss to the individual . If the N.B.R.Y. was strong, I would have said that circumstances would improve with lot of effort . But in the light of the fact that the N.B.R.Y. is not worth writing home about, I have my reservations on the matter. Add K.S.Y..... things start getting tough . Let's see what Mahesh ji has to say .

Best regard's

Hi astroboy,

I was not talking in terms of the above given chart, but I found your remark interesting.
More so due to self interest as my older son has it. In his case it is Lagna lord Jupiter in Kumbha, aspecting the 9th; and the 9th is Leo with ravi budh posited..... sounds good to me.

Yes, but again, lagna lord Jupiter in the 3rd. hinders hard initiative.

Another point is that lagna lord (paka lagna) in third makes the person apply his effort/intelligence towards the 3rd. house with the aspects (directions) to where the paka lagna applies graha drishti to.

I also feel that a native with a natural malefic in the 3rd. house would not have an easy, comfortable sort of life, as he would have to direct most efforts towards initiative in this life.

Of course, I am only talking of lagna lord in exclusion to other variables.

What do you say?

RishiRahul

[astroboy]

I was not talking in terms of the above given chart, but I found your remark interesting.
More so due to self interest as my older son has it. In his case it is Lagna lord Jupiter in Kumbha, aspecting the 9th; and the 9th is Leo with ravi budh posited..... sounds good to me.Yes, but again, lagna lord Jupiter in the 3rd. hinders hard initiative.

Lagna is then Dhanu. Guru is a man who takes thinks lightly . A malefic in the 3rd is good because he will not hesitate to kick someones behind just to get his way..... which is exactly what we need these days in Kali Yoga. Guru takes things in a easy paced and rightious manner . Its good from a Karmic point of view, But bad from a momentary materialistc point of View . I think you get the drift.

Another point is that lagna lord (paka lagna) in third makes the person apply his effort/intelligence towards the 3rd. house with the aspects (directions) to where the paka lagna applies graha drishti to.

In your sons case effort is directed to the 7th house, 9th house and 11th house from Lagna. All other factors being equal he will make is money judiciously, have good partners, and will gain affluence and connections rightiously. I dont know the Navamsha, So I cannot be sure .

I also feel that a native with a natural malefic in the 3rd. house would not have an easy, comfortable sort of life, as he would have to direct most efforts towards initiative in this life

You are right . I want to add that it also gives the person a killer edge. He will not hesitate to go to any lengths to ensure success. The choice he makes will decide if he wants to be mentally comfortable or live under a life opf strain and tension.

[rishirahul]

I was not talking in terms of the above given chart, but I found your remark interesting.
More so due to self interest as my older son has it. In his case it is Lagna lord Jupiter in Kumbha, aspecting the 9th; and the 9th is Leo with ravi budh posited..... sounds good to me.Yes, but again, lagna lord Jupiter in the 3rd. hinders hard initiative.

Lagna is then Dhanu. Guru is a man who takes thinks lightly . A malefic in the 3rd is good because he will not hesitate to kick someones behind just to get his way..... which is exactly what we need these days in Kali Yoga. Guru takes things in a easy paced and rightious manner . Its good from a Karmic point of view, But bad from a momentary materialistc point of View . I think you get the drift.

Another point is that lagna lord (paka lagna) in third makes the person apply his effort/intelligence towards the 3rd. house with the aspects (directions) to where the paka lagna applies graha drishti to.

In your sons case effort is directed to the 7th house, 9th house and 11th house from Lagna. All other factors being equal he will make is money judiciously, have good partners, and will gain affluence and connections rightiously. I dont know the Navamsha, So I cannot be sure .

I also feel that a native with a natural malefic in the 3rd. house would not have an easy, comfortable sort of life, as he would have to direct most efforts towards initiative in this life

You are right . I want to add that it also gives the person a killer edge. He will not hesitate to go to any lengths to ensure success. The choice he makes will decide if he wants to be mentally comfortable or live under a life opf strain and tension.

Hi astroboy,

Yes, you are right on all counts...... you have reaaly improved your logic.

Another thing. Jupiter is not happy in the 3rd. house.. it being its marankaraka sthana. In this case would make him dharmik in jis dealings.
Which is not a bad thing, but it would affect progress, and a lack of confidence results in the palm.
Jupiter the planet of wisdom and benevolence is not at home in its marankaraka sthana.

Again all this is theory.. but it is confirmed from his palm so lucidly.

Thanks,

RishiRahul

[astroboy]

Good post aseem ji . You have done me a great favour . In fact if you see page 1 and 2 of this thread , I have quoted K.N.Rao ji and used his questionnaire to debunk the many ill effects of K.S.Y. .

Thanks once again .

Best regard's

[R V RAMANAN]

Dear all:
After lot of thought, I have unlocked this topic which had to be locked earlier. The reason being, though this is a very controversial topic, this one needs to be discussed from every possible angle.

Pls do not write unnecessary things here.
Warm regards,
Ramanan

[2002diksha]

respected sir,
kalsarpa yoga indeed is a dreaded yoga. i havent met anyone having kalsarpa yoga and doing bad. they all are doing ok if not bad.they did have struggles but then the question is who doesnt have to slog to get good in life.kindly check if the following native has kalsarpa yoga or not. at present rahu dasa is going on.she is doing alright. i think she has kalamrita yoga.(confused)
10 sep 2002,9:10 a.m,lucknow(80:54E,26:50N)
thanks

[2002diksha]

sir,
the biggest problem with this yoga is that they not mentally happy. they have e very different thought process on life. had someone been there position the person would be happy but not he people with kalsarpa yoga. this yoga will not snatch anything material from the person. the person will have everything that they deserve or what they earn. I but from inside they face the attitudinal problem, they will perceive the world to be something that they cannot handle. they will create problems fro themsleves and they will fall into situation from where they themsleves cannot get rid of. I feel that people with this yoga faces problems which are purely psychological give the same situation to someone else they will react differently.but these people will be perceive the same situation in a very different manner.
regards

[jolli]

Here are two charts with KSY....both are femals

(1) 20 July 1976,8 40 Am Nowgong MP India
(2) 01 Aug 1982, 2 10 Pm, Dehradun (This one is suspeted KSY)

Other thing i have observed is (not proven yet.collecting data)

(1) KSY is found mostly in female natives. or female natives with KSY get noticed more
(2) Moon being fastest planet escapes Rahu-Ketu axis first, normally. Normaly KSY has Moon-Ketu combination.

I was under the impression Ketu is the mathematical point where Lunar eclips happens. However have checked at NASA sight for Lunar Eclips date, time n place. It has not shown any lunar eclipse happening on DOB of various natives. i am confused.

[ashusingh597@]

[quote="astroboy"]Now the arguement about /against K.S.Y. Is that the yoga is not found in any classical text's of astrology , at least not in the 18 popular standard texts and thus is not a valid yoga . But can't we come up with a new combination ?? is that prohibited ?? Look at how the K.P. system ( Krishna Murthi Paddathi )founded by the great Krishna Murthi has come to the main stage . No one can say that the standard text's supported it. Yet it has become a tried and tested method for predictive astrology

Following is a sloka from a well known classical text Brighu sutram chapter 6 sloka 23-28
[i][b]If the lord of the fourth house is strong the native will possess horses, palanquins and gold etc.[/b][/i]

If I were to recite this sloka verbatim, and tell him that he will have horses , while the man is staying in a flat in Bangalore, my queriest would think that I have lost my mind. Have we not changed horses to car’s and Palanquins to luxury car’s ?? Have we not deviated from interpretive part of the text and cut it to suit modern times. ??? I do not see what is wrong with new yoga’s and combination’s coming into main stream astrology . But having said that please note, the rule to apply the yoga has to be strictly followed . There can be no deviation there . The result's can be manipulated , But never the combination. If the combination is to be manipulated then it cannot fall under chapter 6 sloka 23-28 . A new yoga with a new name can be coined as per the astrologer's wish .[/quote]

Hi all just I want to know the answer what is kaal sarape yoga because it is in my birth certificate. What are the possibilities of having and by which we can avoid the problems and what are the symptoms of kaal sarapa yoga.