Re: Kemadruma Yoga

[ambjig]

no that available in my chart. i hope gandhiji blessing me from heaven..

Regards
jigs

[Dev]

I hope he blesses you soon so that you will become busy like him and not disturb us in the forum.
Dev

[ambjig]

Ha ha.. m not disturbing at all.

Just increase my knowledge with this form..

Reg
jig

[Dev]

Hi Jig:

No u are not disturbing, we are actually getting rid of the effect of kemadruma yoga (isolation) this way but others and moderators should not mistake. So let us stop for today.

Dev

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

In continuation with:-

If Chandra is Uchha, swa-kshetra, the native will earn money from the public field, the native will have the attraction power and a matured personality.

Only Guru can take away the neechatwa of Chandra. No other graha have the capacity to do so

The native will be a jnani ( gyani ), buddhiwantha, maha-medhavi ( brilliant , very intelligent ), if Chandra is in Mithuna, Tula, and kumba rashi.

If Chandra in Makara, mesha, vrischika rashi along with Kuja, then the native will have lot of problems in life

If Chandra in Tula, makara and kumba along with shani, then the native may not have the Sukha throught his life.

If all the grahas in 2nd or 3rd bava or
all the grahas in one straight line ,
eg:- all the grahas in top line or bottom line or on left side or right side of rashi chakra, the native will have lot of problems in life, they worry always about one perticular thing which they could not achieve in their life.


To be continued------

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

In continuation from:-

In jyothisha Lagnadipathi is Sakala Chaitanya Karaka. He is having the sambandha of shareera. Therefore lagnadipathi is Sarvashreshta in every jataka.

Since lagnadipathi is having the sambandha of shareera, he also indicates the sambandha of mother.

Chandra is considered as Prasava Karaka ( ones birth karaka. Prasava means delivery of child ). That is why it is said lagna, lagnadipathi and Chandra should always be in good position. Therefore, Chandras importance can be seen through out the life.

So Chandra should be seen very carefully in every jataka. Chandra is Karka even for the prediction of Gochara Phala. He is the graha who shows janma vichaar of every jataka.

With these reasons , lagna , and Chandra got the highest importance in jyothisha . Shareera sambandha is shown by Chandra. Child requires mothers sambadha more than father.

Parashara gave Visishta Sthana to Chandra.
" Chandrama Manaso Jathaha " said in upanishad

Chandra is mano karaka, lagna is called as Thanu bava, indicates shareera sthana . The birth of shareera in this lagna has got the Mind through Chandra. So, there happened the relationship of Chandra to Lagna. How we predict the bavas from Lagna, we should predict also from Chandra, only then we can understand every vichaar fully and also moola vichaar of jyothisha shastra.

To be continued-----

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

If Chandra is badly efflicted or spoiled----loose the mental balance
If Shukra ------Do----------------------------No marital happiness /jeevana
If Guru --------Do----------------------------Loose the ecstacy of life
If Ravi---------Do-----------------------------Loose his father
If Budha-------Do----------------------------Become mad
If Kuja --------do-----------------------------loose bhoomi, property, house
If Shani-------Do-----------------------------Jobless

6,8,12 th lords in whichever the bava may be , they bring dushphala, nashta phala. During their Dasha and Bhukthi, there will be sickness, hurdles, problems, tensions, aathanka, shatru badha, enemity, sthalanthara, change of place or job etc, etc.

Which ever the Rajyog graha may be or yoga karakas or benefic yoga karakas For eg:- Gaja- Kesari Yoga, Digbala Yoga, Pancha Mahapurusha Yoga, if they get the sambandha of 6,8,12 th lords, then that yoga phala will be of no use or the phala may not last long.

If the lord 6,8,12th sits in which ever the bava, then that bava will get efflicted or spoiled For eg:-

6th lord in Lagna---Sickness, anarogya
" in 2nd----vidya, dhana haani. Problems or loss in educartion , money
" in 3rd----Bratra haani
" in 4th----property, house, vehicles haani
" in 5th----Santhana haani
" in 6th----Increase in runa, debts
" in 7th-----Vivaha haani
" in 8th-----Mritha yoga
" in 9tjh----Bhagya , pitr haani
" in 10th----Udyoga haani
" in 11th------Laabh haani, loss of income
" In 12th-----Sthala haani, loss of place

8th lord----Kashta, difficulty
12th lord---Nashta, loss or problems

If the Rajayoga graha is Bhadakadipathi , then there will be less shubha phala

That is the reason , the lord of 6,8,12th always gives ashubha phala.

After the break--------------

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

AVAYOGAS:-
Sookshma Vichaars---for readers understandings and knowledge

Avayoga means---shubha pahala of that yoga graha will be less. This ,one can see and experience during the dasha and bhukthi period of that yoga graha.

Mesha Lagna:-
Guru ( 9, 12th lord ) in 12th---avayoga
Kuja (1,8th) in 8th---avayoga

Vrishabha Lagna:-
Shukra (1,6) in 6th---avayoga
Kuja (7,12th) in 12th---avayoga
Guru (8,11) in 8th--- avayoga

Mithuna Lagna:-
Shukra (5,12) in 12th---avayoga
Kuja (6,11 ) in 6th---avayoga
Shani (8,9) in 8th--- avayoga

Karaka lagna :-
Guru ( 6,9th ) in 6th ---avayoga
Shani ( 7,8 ) in 8th -----avayoga

Simha lagna :-
Shukra ( 3,10 ) in 3rd---avayoga
Guru ( 5,8 ) in 8th--- avayoga

Kanya lagna:-
Shani ( 5,6 ) in 6th---avayoga

Tula Lagna:-
Shukra (1,8 ) in 8th--avayoga
Budha ( 6,12 ) in 12th---avayoga

Vrischika lagna :-
Kuja in 6th---avyoga
Shani in 3rd ---avayoga
Shukra in 12 th --- avayoga
Budha in 8th---avayoga

Dhanu Lagna:-
Kuja in 12th----a/y
Shukra in 6th---a/y

Makara lagna :-
Budha in 6th---a/y

Kumba lagna:-
Shani in 12th---a/y
Kuja in 3rd--- a/y
Budha in 8th---a/y

Meena Lagna:-
Shani in 12th---a/y

The lord of 1,4,7,10,5,9 joins with 3,6,8,11,12--- avayoga

If Budha, Guru, Shukra in bhagya sthana--- yoga
If Ravi, Kuyja, Shani becomes bhagyadipathi and sits in 9th house---yoga

If the 9th lord in 6,8,12---avayoga

Grahas in Swakshetra, uchha---Yoga

Grahas in neecha astha---avayoga

If the lord of 6,8,12 aspects 4th house ( maathra Sthana ) ---avayoga.

If the papagraha Shani, Ravi, Kuja, even if they become neecha or in shatru rashi or asthangatha-- they provide shubha phala ( applicable only to yoga karaka or benefic graha to lagna )

It is difficult and confusing to understand , but reading twice, thrice the above vichaars will clarifye the doubts and u will be able to digest properly.


after the break-----

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Graha-------------Shubha bava-----------------Ashubha bava

Ravi --------------- 3,6,9,10,11 ---------------- 1,2,4,5,7,8,12
Chandra ----------- 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11 ------ 6,8,12
Kuja ------------- - 3,6,10,11 ---------------- 1,2,4,5,7,8,9,12
Budha ---------- - - 1.2.3.4.5.7.8.9.10.11 ---- 6,12
Guru---------- ---- 1,2,4,5,7,9,10,12 ------- 3,6,8,12
Shukra ------- --- 1,2,4,5,8,9,10,11,12 --- 3,6,7
Shani ------- ---- 3,6,10,11 -------------- ----1,2,4,5,7,8,9,12
Rahu --------- --- 3,6,10,11 ---------------- 1,2,4,5,7,8,9,12
Ketu ------- ---- - 3,6,11 ------------------ 1,2,5,7,8,9,10,12

[Vic DiCara]

Vic ji, The first thing my guru taught me with regard to Yogas is that for a yoga to fructify, the Graha participating in the Yoga must not be debilitated, combust, Retrograde, must not be in a dusthana and should not be associated with a Malefic owning bad houses. I cannot give you any classical text tag, But since I can trust me Guru's words, I am going to go with what he has found in his experience.

Dear Astroboy,

My problem is the overly black and white use of the word "cancellation." Actually the word Bhanga does not mean "cancel" it means "bend." For example, Sri Krishna is Tri-BHANGA-Sundara - his beautiful form BENDS in three places. When in astrology something is subject to "Bhanga" it is misleading to express this in English as "cancellation" - it is more enlightening to express it as a "bend" or "modification" in the effect.

By common sense, everything bends everything else. This is why no yoga or placement gives the EXACT result described in the shastra - because the shastra describes the PURE result, but no yoga or placement exists in pure isolation.

Thank you for your consideration on this viewpoint.

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Srinivas Rao ji,

Is kemadruma yoga less malefic when chandra is exalted?

I have kemadruma yoga, no planets on either side of chandra, no planet in kendras from chandra and no planet is aspecting chandra.

But chandra is in kendra (7th) from lagna and exalted.

Thanks,
SriRama

Sir,

Kindly give your date of birth and place. Before that, Pl go through once again carefully --Kema druma Banga and see whether there is any banga in ur horoscope?

Regards

P.S.Rao

[ashu0052]

placement of sun, mer and venus in 10th to moon cancels kemdrum yoga or does moon in purshottam navamsa cancels kemdrum yoga...............

[anuradha]

http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?scri ... rection=AU

Dear Astroboy,

My problem is the overly black and white use of the word "cancellation." Actually the word Bhanga does not mean "cancel" it means "bend." For example, Sri Krishna is Tri-BHANGA-Sundara - his beautiful form BENDS in three places. When in astrology something is subject to "Bhanga" it is misleading to express this in English as "cancellation" - it is more enlightening to express it as a "bend" or "modification" in the effect.

By common sense, everything bends everything else. This is why no yoga or placement gives the EXACT result described in the shastra - because the shastra describes the PURE result, but no yoga or placement exists in pure isolation.

Thank you for your consideration on this viewpoint.
Your servant,
Vic DiCara / व्रज किशोर दास
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Dear Astroboy,

My problem is the overly black and white use of the word "cancellation." Actually the word Bhanga does not mean "cancel" it means "bend." For example, Sri Krishna is Tri-BHANGA-Sundara - his beautiful form BENDS in three places. When in astrology something is subject to "Bhanga" it is misleading to express this in English as "cancellation" - it is more enlightening to express it as a "bend" or "modification" in the effect.

By common sense, everything bends everything else. This is why no yoga or placement gives the EXACT result described in the shastra - because the shastra describes the PURE result, but no yoga or placement exists in pure isolation.

Thank you for your consideration on this viewpoint.
Your servant,
Vic DiCara / व्रज किशोर दास
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[swamykool]

Dear Astroboy,

My problem is the overly black and white use of the word "cancellation." Actually the word Bhanga does not mean "cancel" it means "bend." For example, Sri Krishna is Tri-BHANGA-Sundara - his beautiful form BENDS in three places. When in astrology something is subject to "Bhanga" it is misleading to express this in English as "cancellation" - it is more enlightening to express it as a "bend" or "modification" in the effect.

By common sense, everything bends everything else. This is why no yoga or placement gives the EXACT result described in the shastra - because the shastra describes the PURE result, but no yoga or placement exists in pure isolation.

Thank you for your consideration on this viewpoint.

Dear Vic,

Here is what my sketchy Sanskrit suggests. Break for 'bhanga is the literal dictionary meaning. While 'bend' is a derivative. In Tri-bhanga the word bhanga is used in the sense of 'bankim' that is wavy or bent. But say in the word 'swapna bhanga' it literally means breaking of dream - disillutionment. Its semantics. IMHO astrology should not be confused with poetry. A poet has a lot of license, not the astrologer.

Neechabhanga would simply mean that the worst effects would be warded off. And of course a H has multiple influences, so nothing happens literally as written.

Regards
swamykool

[chavitarun]

dear sirs
pl. let me know if this boy is having kendrum yoga.he is repeatedly failing in entrance exams

DOB : 18-4-1992
time 19.55
place : Beawar(Raj.) india

Tula lagna , moon in 1st
saturn in 4th
venus & mercury in 6th
exalted sun in 7th
mars in 5th
jupiter in 11th
rahu in 3rd &ketu in 9th
how exalted sun in 7th & malefic saturn in 4th (sash yoga) will perform
Venus exalted in 6th with debiliated mercury(in navamasha mercury is exalted in 7th house)

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Srinivas Rao ji,

Is kemadruma yoga less malefic when chandra is exalted?

I have kemadruma yoga, no planets on either side of chandra, no planet in kendras from chandra and no planet is aspecting chandra.

But Chandra is in kendra to (7th) lagna and exalted.

Thanks,
SriRama

Dear Madam,

I too dont have clear cut answer to ur question. There are more than one definition for this yoga and many daivajnas have defined this yoga in their own way and experience. This ,u must have read in the very first para of my earlier writings .

It is true that ur jataka dont have :-

Durdura, Anapha, Sunapha yogas
No planets in 2, 12 to Chandra
No drishti from Guru or Shukra
No Shubha graha in Kendra --1,4,7,10 to Chandra or to Lagna in rashi chakra.

Thus , one can say that it is one type of K/ D yoga.

Having said that, in ur jataka:-

Guru is not astha
Chandra aspects lagna
Chandra is having Paksha bala
No papagraha aspects or papagraha in Chandras house ( karkataka rashi ), both in rashi and navamsha chakra
Chandra is not under papakarthari in rashi and navamsha
Chandra rashiadipathi is not papayuktha in rashi chakra
Above all, 9th lord Chandra is not in 6,8,12 and infact 9th lord Chandra is Uchha and in kendra to lagna , aspecting lagna.

Therefore , in taking the above consideration, there is a Banga to some extent to this yoga .

Others:-


Even if the Chandra is Uchha, no shubha graha aspects Chandra or lagna
No shubha graha in kendra to chandra or lagna
So one can say, u r having more of mano-vikalpa or instability of mind. U might have come-up in a hard way in ur life after experiencing difficulties.

Chandra is in Shukra rashi, u r cool to some extent and may not agree any views at once.

There is parivarthana of nakshatra between Chandra and kuja and hence u may experience mental strain, mano-udvega ( getting excited quickly ) often in ur life. By this u might loose many good opportunities.

Things will improve after november 2011

I might be wrong in my views, please consult others before taking any decision

Parihara:-

Refer my earlier writings in this thread

Kapila Maharshis Maathrakakshara Maalika Devi sthothra. This is very good for those who have Rekha and K/D yoga and they should chant daily.

Durga Sapthashathi--- Chant daily Argala sthothra and Keelakam Stothra

Regards

P. S. Rao

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Thanks so much Raoji. What is rahu is in 9th in kataka ? Does that change my jataka in any way? Because as per SSS I have rahu in kataka and ketu in makara. Rest other planets are the same.

I am currently reciting vishnu sahasranama and lalitha sahasranama daily.

Waiting eagerly for your response.

Namaskarams,
SriRama

[/quote]

Madam, i have analysed ur horoscope not from SS system. Rahu in mithuna in 8th from lagna aspected by yogakaraka Guru is an excellent Raja Yoga. Reciting Lalitha , Vishnu Sahasra nama will always bring good phala.

P.S.rao

[anuradha]

Sir, Its great to see you back. I am posting the details of a chart having kemdruma yoga, to have your comments. Date of birth March 9, 1961, 00-54a.m, Mathura[ U.P] . Regards
anuradha
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Sir, Waiting for your comments. regards

[Vic DiCara]

Dear Astroboy,

My problem is the overly black and white use of the word "cancellation." Actually the word Bhanga does not mean "cancel" it means "bend." For example, Sri Krishna is Tri-BHANGA-Sundara - his beautiful form BENDS in three places. When in astrology something is subject to "Bhanga" it is misleading to express this in English as "cancellation" - it is more enlightening to express it as a "bend" or "modification" in the effect.

By common sense, everything bends everything else. This is why no yoga or placement gives the EXACT result described in the shastra - because the shastra describes the PURE result, but no yoga or placement exists in pure isolation.

Thank you for your consideration on this viewpoint.

Dear Vic,

Here is what my sketchy Sanskrit suggests. Break for 'bhanga is the literal dictionary meaning. While 'bend' is a derivative. In Tri-bhanga the word bhanga is used in the sense of 'bankim' that is wavy or bent. But say in the word 'swapna bhanga' it literally means breaking of dream - disillutionment. Its semantics. IMHO astrology should not be confused with poetry. A poet has a lot of license, not the astrologer.

Neechabhanga would simply mean that the worst effects would be warded off. And of course a H has multiple influences, so nothing happens literally as written.

Regards
swamykool

Right - thats just what I was saying, no?

[swamykool]

Dear Vic,

Yup. But in astrology 'bhanga' means 'break'. Thus neechabhanga means debilitation is broken, so the worst effects won't come to pass. How much will come to pass is a different matter altogether.

My point is that the shlokas of astrology should not be interpreted on the lines of poetics. As I said, a poet has a lot of license, an astrologer does not.

Regards
swamykool

[Dev]

Hi Swamy Kool:

Are you a poet, an astrologer or both ?
Dev

[swamykool]

Dev ji,

I understand nothing of poetry, and I am a baby astrologer.

swamykool

[Dev]

Swamykool:

I dont know about your poetic abilities but then if you call yourself a baby astrologer, I have to say, I am learning the spelling of astrology now.

Dev

[swamykool]

Dev ji,

Thanks for the complement.

[Dev]