Head bangers ball

[sriram]

Great post Astroboy, very informative and well written as well.
Lucid analisys and nice conclusion.

I enjoy your posts, please keep writting,

Regards,

SriRam

[astroboy]

Very nice of you to say these kind words Sri Ram ji. Thank you.

[Anjaneya]

AB jee,

How can u do such things in forum again and again. You are Rahul Dravid for this forum.
Amazing Sir !!! Specially that "Free Will" thing. I always felt that it exists. It is always person wish to use the energy the way he/she wants.

Regards.

[unfathomable]

As a learner/beginner in astrology, I am just curious what is the swamsha rashi and swamsha lagna nakshatra of the native involved. Such rage and violence, I think Mars has to be involved in a big way.

[netpk]

Astroboy,
I would say this is the complete and practical example you have placed on the forum, I am sure this will remain online forever and future readers, astrology students would gain a view from reading it.

Ghrishneswar Ji Analysis simplifies what went wrong with this person, indulging him into a devil, although I personally believe a similar person who had good education, had good parents would have acted differently during all his Dasha's and dosha's mitigating the ILL Effect one can lead himself into.

Again Astroboy Your comments
[ This is why I said, Astrology cannot, and is not a exact science. Astrology can only show us what kind of Yogas we come with. It can show us our Prarabdha karmas. It does not, and will not show how the native will utilize and manage his Prarabdha by applying his ""free will"". A horoscope can go to the extent of showing the limits of ""free will"" to the astrologer, but it cannot show ""utilization"".]

Simplifies the understanding of astrology study, it leads me to believe that a person with Raj Yoga would Only have it once he has his act supporting him.
The conclusion part is something I would keep in my very important Bookmarks.

I don't know if you guys have seen a detailed report from a software "parashara" (its a expensive software and I had access to it at person who charges for horoscope made with print outs, he had some system problem and I had a chance to please him and go through it, It was a Dongle Based software locked to his system which he purchased license for IIRC) it has some section where it shows the Fortunate and in-fortunate effects of certain combination, and to my surprise this was not included in 60-80 pages horoscope this guy sells like hell, This hidden report looks certainly good to further pin point someone's problem and this can be a tool for suggestion, remedy but still It depends on actual karma of the subject in question as per my personal view. If I remember correctly this guy said the software costed him around 20K INR.

[astroboy]

Good day to you net PK,

Yes you are right, Parashara light does offer a list of "the effects of a fortunate or unfortunate combination" for every horoscope. These combinations are called Yogas. The software has a 1000 Yogas coded in, and any given horoscope you feed in, will contain an average of 60 - 100 yogas, from the 1000 yogas that are encoded. The point is, the software does not bother to assess the strength of the yoga, Thus rendering the whole excercise moot.

Hundreds of combinations offering tantalizing results might litter a horoscope, but if no effort is put in that direction, to reap the benefits of these yogas, they will lie dormant throughout the natives life.

Similarly, there might be a lot of evil combinations that might lurk around in the horoscope, threatening to rain misery down on the native, when he or she least expects it. Here again, if one lacks faith in remedial measure, does not believe in God, decides not to seek divine protection, and decides to succumb to fate, will certainly live to see the full effects of these evil combinations.

Jyotish can only show us what kind of Yogas we come with. One cannot predict with a cent percent accuracy, if a yoga promised will fructify or not. It can show us the potential of a chart's Prarabdha karma, and the condition of the Upachaya houses. It does not, and will not show how the native will utilize and manage his Prarabdha by applying his "free will". A horoscope can go to the extent of showing the limits of ""free will"" to the astrologer, but it cannot show ""utilization"".

I have seen horoscopes that have contradicted every single principle of Jyotish. Recently I came across the horoscope of an Ex chairman and managing director of syndicate bank recently. His name is
Ambalpady Krishna Rao. Mr Krishna Rao passed away on the 2nd of March 2010.

The story goes, that he left Manipal after finishing his S.S.l.C. (10th standard) examinations to work as a waiter in hotel "woodlands" in Chennai. The owner motivated him to study further and helped him pursue his education.

Mr Rao then went on to gain a M.A. M.L. and CAIIB degrees. He joined Syndicate Bank in 1975. He was appointed as the executive director in the year 1983 and then he went on to become the chairman and managing director in 1984 and served in the position for next two years.

One look at his horoscope, and you would toss it aside in 2 minutes flat. No exalted planets, 3 Key planets are in debilitation. The lagna is Cancer. Ravi, Shukra, and Guru are debilitated. How can a man with 3 debilitated planets become the chairman and managing director of a public sector bank, is a question one must take time to ponder upon.

I am told, that sheer hardwork, a unflinching faith in his Guru, and in his God Lord Subramanya* saw him through.

So dear Netpk, Not all horoscopes need to have a 1000 yogas to make man a success. If one Utilizes his free will in the right direction, with good faith, and with Dharma in hand, he can defeat even the most evil combination in a horoscope. You can trust me on this.

(*He is a Stanika Brahimin by birth. The Kuladevatha of Stanika Brahmin's is Subramanya. Hence Sthanika Brahmins are also called Subramanya Sthanika Brahmins.In the year 1924 Sringeri Sri Sharada Peetham had given a notification that, this sect of Smaratha Brahmins from South Canara can be called as Subramanya Sthanika Brahmins. Sthanika Brahmins are followers of Sri Adi Shankaracharya and follow the Advaitha philosophy and are shishya's of Dakshinamnaya Sringeri Sharada Peetham. His Holiness Jagadguru Sri Shankaracharya of Dakshinamnaya Sringeri Sharada Peetham is their Kulaguru.}

[kunalbhardwaj27]

So dear Netpk, Not all horoscopes need to have a 1000 yogas to make man a success. If one Utilizes his free will in the right direction, with good faith, and with Dharma in hand, he can defeat even the most evil combination in a horoscope. You can trust me on this.

Very True...

[Ghrishneswar]

Can't agree more with last few lines Astroboy.
It is an irony that the more we study astrology the more we find that it is ultimately your karma and dharma that can lead to you where you want to be.
You have no controls on the card you are dealt with but you can chose how to play.

[KET]

Good day to you net PK,

Hundreds of combinations offering tantalizing results might litter a horoscope, but if no effort is put in that direction, to reap the benefits of these yogas, they will lie dormant throughout the natives life.

Jyotish can only show us what kind of Yogas we come with. One cannot predict with a cent percent accuracy, if a yoga promised will fructify or not. It can show us the potential of a chart's Prarabdha karma, and the condition of the Upachaya houses. It does not, and will not show how the native will utilize and manage his Prarabdha by applying his "free will". A horoscope can go to the extent of showing the limits of ""free will"" to the astrologer, but it cannot show ""utilization"".

I have seen horoscopes that have contradicted every single principle of Jyotish. Recently I came across the horoscope of an Ex chairman and managing director of syndicate bank recently. His name is
Ambalpady Krishna Rao. Mr Krishna Rao passed away on the 2nd of March 2010.

The story goes, that he left Manipal after finishing his S.S.l.C. (10th standard) examinations to work as a waiter in hotel "woodlands" in Chennai. The owner motivated him to study further and helped him pursue his education.

Mr Rao then went on to gain a M.A. M.L. and CAIIB degrees. He joined Syndicate Bank in 1975. He was appointed as the executive director in the year 1983 and then he went on to become the chairman and managing director in 1984 and served in the position for next two years.

One look at his horoscope, and you would toss it aside in 2 minutes flat. No exalted planets, 3 Key planets are in debilitation. The lagna is Cancer. Ravi, Shukra, and Guru are debilitated. How can a man with 3 debilitated planets become the chairman and managing director of a public sector bank, is a question one must take time to ponder upon.

I am told, that sheer hardwork, a unflinching faith in his Guru, and in his God Lord Subramanya* saw him through.



(*He is a Stanika Brahimin by birth. The Kuladevatha of Stanika Brahmin's is Subramanya. Hence Sthanika Brahmins are also called Subramanya Sthanika Brahmins.In the year 1924 Sringeri Sri Sharada Peetham had given a notification that, this sect of Smaratha Brahmins from South Canara can be called as Subramanya Sthanika Brahmins. Sthanika Brahmins are followers of Sri Adi Shankaracharya and follow the Advaitha philosophy and are shishya's of Dakshinamnaya Sringeri Sharada Peetham. His Holiness Jagadguru Sri Shankaracharya of Dakshinamnaya Sringeri Sharada Peetham is their Kulaguru.}

AB ji

Back Again. Great. Agreed. As you highlighted, apart from the horoscope, it is the belief in Guru, God and of course self determination and fighting spirit to do the hard work that are essential, apart from the yogas in the chart. The above example of PSU's late high ranked person..kuladevaitha(Family deity) is Subramanya. Subramanya is Lord Karthik (Mars deity god).It is apparent that Lord Karthik had blessed native to come up in his life. Readers would be aware that Subramanya is the only God in Hindu whose designation is Senadipathi... Lord Karthik can lead the army for victory... Lord Shiva/ Brahma & Vishnu bestowed the title to Lord Subramanya

Regards

[netpk]

So dear Netpk, Not all horoscopes need to have a 1000 yogas to make man a success. If one Utilizes his free will in the right direction, with good faith, and with Dharma in hand, he can defeat even the most evil combination in a horoscope. You can trust me on this.

Thanks Astroboy, I fully agree with you.
As I am very new in this forum, its been my pleasure to see and read your post which shows lots of knowledge and with proper justification.

Your above words are like golden words and is one thing every person who has interest in Astrology should always remember of.

Lastly I wanted to do a private discussion, you can include a few experts if you wish and we can together bring a new way to make/fine-tune horoscope which should be more accurate and will give much accurate match to events of one's life.
I've done this experiment on mine, but as a very novice user I don't know how accurately this shows effects on other horoscopes.
If you find my idea of any help, you can get it published on Lova forums, may be this forum would attract eyes of thousands of astrologers from various part of the globe. but for sure I'll be called mad after that
Just a Idea to help you experts nothing commercial.

[astroboy]

Good day K.E.T. Ji,

Just in case you want to examine the horoscope of Mr Krishna Rao, here it is,

20th october 1926
23 : 36
Manipal
Use L.M.T.

Best regards,

Netpk, great idea. Will get back to you.

[Tiwari]

Dear Astroboy

Very nice to see some pink after a long time. Completely endorse your views in green.

Warmly,
T

Good day to you net PK,

Yes you are right, Parashara light does offer a list of "the effects of a fortunate or unfortunate combination" for every horoscope. These combinations are called Yogas. The software has a 1000 Yogas coded in, and any given horoscope you feed in, will contain an average of 60 - 100 yogas, from the 1000 yogas that are encoded. The point is, the software does not bother to assess the strength of the yoga, Thus rendering the whole excercise moot.

Hundreds of combinations offering tantalizing results might litter a horoscope, but if no effort is put in that direction, to reap the benefits of these yogas, they will lie dormant throughout the natives life.

Similarly, there might be a lot of evil combinations that might lurk around in the horoscope, threatening to rain misery down on the native, when he or she least expects it. Here again, if one lacks faith in remedial measure, does not believe in God, decides not to seek divine protection, and decides to succumb to fate, will certainly live to see the full effects of these evil combinations.

Jyotish can only show us what kind of Yogas we come with. One cannot predict with a cent percent accuracy, if a yoga promised will fructify or not. It can show us the potential of a chart's Prarabdha karma, and the condition of the Upachaya houses. It does not, and will not show how the native will utilize and manage his Prarabdha by applying his "free will". A horoscope can go to the extent of showing the limits of ""free will"" to the astrologer, but it cannot show ""utilization"".

I have seen horoscopes that have contradicted every single principle of Jyotish. Recently I came across the horoscope of an Ex chairman and managing director of syndicate bank recently. His name is
Ambalpady Krishna Rao. Mr Krishna Rao passed away on the 2nd of March 2010.

The story goes, that he left Manipal after finishing his S.S.l.C. (10th standard) examinations to work as a waiter in hotel "woodlands" in Chennai. The owner motivated him to study further and helped him pursue his education.

Mr Rao then went on to gain a M.A. M.L. and CAIIB degrees. He joined Syndicate Bank in 1975. He was appointed as the executive director in the year 1983 and then he went on to become the chairman and managing director in 1984 and served in the position for next two years.

One look at his horoscope, and you would toss it aside in 2 minutes flat. No exalted planets, 3 Key planets are in debilitation. The lagna is Cancer. Ravi, Shukra, and Guru are debilitated. How can a man with 3 debilitated planets become the chairman and managing director of a public sector bank, is a question one must take time to ponder upon.

I am told, that sheer hardwork, a unflinching faith in his Guru, and in his God Lord Subramanya* saw him through.

So dear Netpk, Not all horoscopes need to have a 1000 yogas to make man a success. If one Utilizes his free will in the right direction, with good faith, and with Dharma in hand, he can defeat even the most evil combination in a horoscope. You can trust me on this.

(*He is a Stanika Brahimin by birth. The Kuladevatha of Stanika Brahmin's is Subramanya. Hence Sthanika Brahmins are also called Subramanya Sthanika Brahmins.In the year 1924 Sringeri Sri Sharada Peetham had given a notification that, this sect of Smaratha Brahmins from South Canara can be called as Subramanya Sthanika Brahmins. Sthanika Brahmins are followers of Sri Adi Shankaracharya and follow the Advaitha philosophy and are shishya's of Dakshinamnaya Sringeri Sharada Peetham. His Holiness Jagadguru Sri Shankaracharya of Dakshinamnaya Sringeri Sharada Peetham is their Kulaguru.}