Astrology & General Discussion on Birth Charts

[manya]

White
this girl has a retrograde mercury, exalted venus , but placed in the 6th house..

I took the above statement of yours as meaning that venus and mercury are together in the 6th, Anyway exalted venus can still give music.

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Dev ji,

Can Venus give music when in own sign? and in either of the houses? I read somewhere that Rahu in 2nd house gives music? Is It?

My dad was a good singer. Tula lagna with SUn-mer-venus in lagna. is this combination gave him singing?

[Dev]

White:

You said, mars sat conjunction and retrograde mercury(in 4th)

Dev

[manya]

Akanksha:

See you have 12 rasis and 9 planets, other than rahu and ketu there are seven. Out of these, other than sun and moon, each of the other 5 planets have 2 houses each, that makes it 10, sun and moon have one each, so that adds up to 12. Rahu and ketu are chaya grahas or shadowy planets and do not have houses of their own.

Lagna is based on the time of birth, which appears with L sign in the horoscope, rasi refers to the house in which moon is placed. Both are normally different for most people and for some it can be same.
So houses are calculated from lagna as 1st, 2nd and so on until 12th. So if the lady has kumbha lagna, meena and dhanur will become 2nd and 11th houses for her, which denote kutumb sthan and labh sthan, and are houses of jupiter, jupiter is himself placed in simha the 7th house, house of sun.

Gochara predictions that you listen to in the TV is based on your nakshatra or moon position and not lagna. That is why you may not get right readings from that because each horoscope is characteristics of the individual more than his nakshatra since there are only 27 stars and we should be having only 27 different types of people based on that but we see no two humans are alike. So this complexity can be explained only by taking into account the lagna along with position of planets from the lagna which is characteristics of that particular individual alone.

Dev

Dev ji,

This was a detailed and clear explanation to begin with. Thanks

I am unable to interpret this-

So houses are calculated from lagna as 1st, 2nd and so on until 12th. So if the lady has kumbha lagna, meena and dhanur will become 2nd and 11th houses for her, which denote kutumb sthan and labh sthan, and are houses of jupiter, jupiter is himself placed in simha the 7th house, house of sun.

I mean, what kind of results jupiter will give if it is placed like this....

Dev ji, I being born in a family where I have seen members in education field only, it is natural for me to respect Guru....And i respect you that you love teaching and sharing your knowledge with others...( u mentioned somewhere in the forum)

[Dev]

Akansha:

Yes, venus is an important planet for music and I feel, it can give on its own too when well placed.
About rahu, it is a chaya grah and depends on the house where it is placed. 2nd house is for voice and good second house indicates a good voice which is again needed for singing. So if the dispositor of rahu is exalted then rahu also helps being placed there, I feel.
Anyway a strong venus person can never dislike music, I am sure, unless the venus is severely afflicted and in that case, he is no more strong.

Dev

[manya]

Venus-Rahu-Moon together will make the person more attractive, physically, but the person will be having lots of attitude problems.

My mom has Venus-Rahu together in 11th house + Sun , Tula lagna And moon in 12th house.

And she was a beauty queen of Hardoi in her time . Does the combination make sense?

Dont know about attitude problem though.

And my sis in law has venus-moon-rahu in 5th house. And she is very beautiful. Again Tula lagna.

[manya]

Akansha:


Anyway a strong venus person can never dislike music, I am sure, unless the venus is severely afflicted and in that case, he is no more strong.

Dev

Dev ji,

In which case? If you are reffering to my dad's combination, but then in that case he was exceptionally good singer, but no training and he used to sing only as his hobby.

[Dev]

Ve is for beauty and so is moon, tula lagna belongs to venus, so these connections will give beauty and many film actresses used to have, but ve-ra also indicates beauty, I heard from Basab, I do not know about it.
In fact venus alone, moon alone in lagna also indicate beauty and the better when unafflicted. So is it when either of them or both are exalted without afflictions especially when they are connected with lagna lord, aspecting lagna and so on.
Ve also gives strength in fine arts. Both Ve and moon are female planets and beauty is associated with females normally.

Dev

[Dev]

Akansha:

I dont think you shared your dad's chart here. Anyway if his venus is good, he must have been good then, though other combinations can also give musical skills. Anyway being good and pursuing as a career is different, unless there is connection of these lords with 10th house, it may not become a profession.
Some highly educated and well employed people also musically talented leave job in between to pursue music full time. In that case, I feel they would have the dasa running which is connected to music and the lord is again connected to 10th house of career. Of course they would have had another profession during other dasas when other connections would have been there.

Dev

[basab14]

White,

When I said 'in this case' I was not talking about the 30-7-1982 chart but about the example you had given about Venus-Moon-Rahu together in lagna and what it will mean there. I said then that the combination will not just be in lagna in the lagna chart, but also in the lagna in the Moon chart, if you think carefully, as in Moon chart, the Moon sign becomes the lagna.

said about Venus-Moon-Rahu it will happen when they are in the first house in the lagna chart. In this case, they are in the first house in the Moon chart as well

i m sorry i didnt get you here ? the chart we are discussing (30/7/1982) has rah+ven in the 1st house in the lagna chart but only moon in the first house in the moon/rashi chart ?

[basab14]

Venus-Rahu-Moon together will make the person more attractive, physically, but the person will be having lots of attitude problems.

My mom has Venus-Rahu together in 11th house + Sun , Tula lagna And moon in 12th house.

And she was a beauty queen of Hardoi in her time . Does the combination make sense?

Dont know about attitude problem though.

And my sis in law has venus-moon-rahu in 5th house. And she is very beautiful. Again Tula lagna.

Thanks for giving some example charts, Akansha ji. Venus-Moon makes a person attractive always, and in your sister-in-law's case, Venus is the lagna lord, so that shows why she is so beautiful.

In case of your mother, Venus-Rahu together indicates being pretty, as Venus is the lagna lord, but Sun there is a spoiler. Maybe it is very far from Venus and Rahu. Moon in the 12th house doesn't indicate good looks. It's being in the 2nd house or lagna would have helped more. People with Libra ascendant if there chart has even the slightest combination for good looks becomes quite pretty as it is a lagna of Venus.

[jolli]

Ok

Another birth chart.

1 aug 1982, dehradoon at 2 10 pm.

Whats your take on this one.....

[manya]

In case of your mother, Venus-Rahu together indicates being pretty, as Venus is the lagna lord, but Sun there is a spoiler. Maybe it is very far from Venus and Rahu. Moon in the 12th house doesn't indicate good looks. It's being in the 2nd house or lagna would have helped more. People with Libra ascendant if there chart has even the slightest combination for good looks becomes quite pretty as it is a lagna of Venus.

Yellow ji,

Thanks for the explanation. WHat happens if in Venus-moon conjuction , venus gets debilitated.

And what if moon is in 7th?

[basab14]

Akansha ji,

If Venus and Moon are together in the 7th house, it will make the person very attractive. People of the opposite sex will find a terrible attraction towards him and buzz around him like the bees buzz around a flower. It will make the person very much lustful as well. It's not a good combination for marriage, I feel. Venus debiliated will not have any effect on the physical beauty of the person.

[manya]

Yellow ji,

What if moon alone is in 7th.

[basab14]

Akansha ji,

That will make the spouse sensitive and caring and very beautiful.

[manya]

Akansha ji,

That will make the spouse sensitive and caring and very beautiful.

Ok.

Does this conjunction venus-moon-rahu makes a person singer too...?

[manya]

Yellow ji, Dev Ji & Deeps ji,

I feel we all in my family have saturn in bad position, my mom has saturn in 8th house, y sis in law has debilitated saturn in 7th house, me in 12th house with sun....and other members in the family too....

I wanted to understand what is this curse which is getting forwarded from one generation to next generations.

[Dev]

Akanksha:

It is said that a particular planet could be weak from generations due to pitru shapa or other shapas from some ancestors. That is possible for seven generations they say. But if it is your own bad karma, you may not have the same planet being weak for all in the family. Of course, the mother usually comes from a different family and so if there are more children, one or more planet will be afflicted for some like father's and one for more for some like mother. That is why they dont recommend marriage between close relatives like maternal uncle, uncle's son etc since these shapas could affect more from both side and scientifically too the genetics will cause more harm to the children.

Anyway doing Hanuman Chalisa everyday together by all of you would help in diluting this shapa if any.

Dev

[manya]

Akanksha:

It is said that a particular planet could be weak from generations due to pitru shapa or other shapas from some ancestors. That is possible for seven generations they say. But if it is your own bad karma, you may not have the same planet being weak for all in the family. Of course, the mother usually comes from a different family and so if there are more children, one or more planet will be afflicted for some like father's and one for more for some like mother. That is why they dont recommend marriage between close relatives like maternal uncle, uncle's son etc since these shapas could affect more from both side and scientifically too the genetics will cause more harm to the children.

Anyway doing Hanuman Chalisa everyday together by all of you would help in diluting this shapa if any.

Dev

Dev ji,

Oh it is like that.

My brother's son has venus debilitated with moon in 11th and saturn in 5th house...scorpio lagna.
Though I do not know much about this but i am really worried.

[manya]

Yellow ji,

What does mer-rahu conjunction imply?

[deeps]

hi deeps
this is the chart i was talking about

1: date-29 feb 1988
time-19 30
place- kalol(gujrat)

got married by eloping with her lover who belonged to different caste

Hi Ranbir,

There is no Venus and Rahu conjunction here in this chart.

[basab14]

Akansha ji,

Mercury-Rahu conjunction can make a person a genius if in the right position and has benefic influence, but again, it can make a person have mental problems if in the wrong place and afflicted by malefics.

Yellow ji,

What does mer-rahu conjunction imply?

[deeps]

Jupiter is lord of 2nd and 11th both from lagna and rasi. She has almost no characteristics of a lady.

I did not know that we see the character of a person through 2nd and 11th house.

[Dev]

Deep,

I think you did not read our emails related to that. I said inspite of jupiter being in 7th, she was not a good lady and all that stuff, it was Basab who asked me which houses jupiter represents in her horoscope, so I answered. I think, first, 4th, 12th are important and afflictions to guru, shukra, budha and chandra and to lagna and 4th lords can effect the character of the person
Again, what I meant in the horoscope that you said jupiter in 7th is good, I said, it is not so in this case, but may be other factors are there which override this, I did say that like sat rahu in 2nd, ketu in 8th and sun,mars in 4th or 5th(I just forgot)

Dev

[Dev]

Akansha:

You seem all the time worried on some grounds. Better start Hanuman chalisa regularly and so also Vishnu Sahasranama.
Yes, for 7th lord debilitated and associated with chandra, it is not good. Ask him to do Mahalakshmi puja that I also suggested to you. But see whether he has neecha bhanga and also whether venus is exalted in navamsa

Dev