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Saturn exalated in 1st house(Libra)
Sun/Ketu in 2nd(Scorpion)
Mercury/Jupiter/Venus in 3rd(Sagi)
Mars exalated in 4th house(Capri)
Moon in 5th(Aq)
Rahu in 8th(taurus)
Let me know what di you guys think about this. As for a friend he is a very reliable person, hard working and good towards his family
Cheers!!
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Where is Venus? You missed the most important planet! 
And what about the planetary period when he cheated those girls?
And what about the planetary period when he cheated those girls?
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deeps
What cheers, man????Saturn exalated in 1st house(Libra)
Sun/Ketu in 2nd(Scorpion)
Mercury/Jupiter in 3rd(Sagi)
Mars exalated in 4th house(Capri)
Moon in 5th(Aq)
Rahu in 8th(taurus)
Cheers!!
where is damn venus?
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OMG! This is too much!! It makes no sense now! Venus with two benefics: Mercury and Jupiter! Good lord! This is shocking!
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
Ok gaurav, tell me one thing now- what girls think of him now? I will comment on the chart later on.
Gaurav,
Sorry, I was wrong in focussing only on Venus in the chart. I checked the 7th house and got some clues: Mars, the planet of passion, is exalted as the 7th lord of sex, and is aspecting its own house. Maybe that's the reason for his playboy nature.
Sorry, I was wrong in focussing only on Venus in the chart. I checked the 7th house and got some clues: Mars, the planet of passion, is exalted as the 7th lord of sex, and is aspecting its own house. Maybe that's the reason for his playboy nature.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
The chart is making completely sense. 12th house of bed pleasures conjunct with 8th Lord of secrets in 3rd house of desires!!!..
Don't blame on exalted Saturn, man!!!
Don't blame on exalted Saturn, man!!!
And one more point, Deeps: they all (12th lord of bed pleasures, and the natural significator of sex, Venus) are in the fire sign!
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"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Gaurav,
What was the planetary period? I can't think of Saturn or Jupiter getting him into the perverted act.
What was the planetary period? I can't think of Saturn or Jupiter getting him into the perverted act.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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gaurav1185
Girls liked him. He is smooth when it comes to persuading girls. He easily traps them to bed. He looks good too.
Later on he found its better to pay for the services then to make all the efforts and have the pleasure
Later on he found its better to pay for the services then to make all the efforts and have the pleasure
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gaurav1185
well dude...I just checked his Vimsottari Dasha. He is running Jupiter MD from 1998 and it will end in 2014.
Starting from 2002 I have seen him quiet indulgent and he was like that till recent past when he finally got married and pledged to control his fantasies.
FYI 2002 he was was running Saturn AD.
Starting from 2002 I have seen him quiet indulgent and he was like that till recent past when he finally got married and pledged to control his fantasies.
FYI 2002 he was was running Saturn AD.
Yellow wrote:Gaurav,
What was the planetary period? I can't think of Saturn or Jupiter getting him into the perverted act.
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gaurav1185
dude i took time and have provided all the information for your study. Please mind being bit courteous and gracious . tks
deeps wrote:What cheers, man????Saturn exalated in 1st house(Libra)
Sun/Ketu in 2nd(Scorpion)
Mercury/Jupiter in 3rd(Sagi)
Mars exalated in 4th house(Capri)
Moon in 5th(Aq)
Rahu in 8th(taurus)
Cheers!!
where is damn venus?
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Humannature
deeps wrote:The chart is making completely sense. 12th house of bed pleasures conjunct with 8th Lord of secrets in 3rd house of desires!!!..
Don't blame on exalted Saturn, man!!!
3rd is only origin of desires. 11th has to be strong for actual FULFILLMENT of desires. So since 8th and 12th are in 3rd, desire might be there but how can it be tied to how he actually acted up on that or how his secret desires were fulfilled?
Moreover why only look at Mercury and Venus as 12th and 8th lord? why not as 1st and 9th lord in 3rd?
8th is house of consoiracies, secrets...but it doe not look his indiscretions were a secret at all, if his friends knew so well about them!!
2 benfics in 3rd, the person should not have had courage to go against any societal norms.
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Dear Gaurav,
I didnt mean all people who have exalted saturn are good and by the same way all having neecha sani are bad!
Seeing the whole chart gives a good picture, instead of analysing single planet and one liners like this planet is bad etc is what i didnt support.
In your friend's chart,a venusian lagna, with some plus combinations, so natural that girls liked him!
Still there is hope. I have seen charts of people who indulged much in sensual pleasures, have turned so good in later life.
Let us have the feed back when he starts saturn dasa
I didnt mean all people who have exalted saturn are good and by the same way all having neecha sani are bad!
Seeing the whole chart gives a good picture, instead of analysing single planet and one liners like this planet is bad etc is what i didnt support.
In your friend's chart,a venusian lagna, with some plus combinations, so natural that girls liked him!
Still there is hope. I have seen charts of people who indulged much in sensual pleasures, have turned so good in later life.
Let us have the feed back when he starts saturn dasa
I have now abandoned the hypothesis that people with good Saturn are bad after being reminded of completely nice people on this forum such as Jegdis and Anxious.
Perhaps it's better to say that bad people usually have a good Saturn (and also often Rahu), but not the other way round i.e., people with good Saturn may not always be bad.
I had overlooked the fact that people's character is judged more by the Lagna and 5th house, than where Saturn is placed.
PS to Anxious - This doesn't apply to you as you have a Southern Hemisphere chart. Your chart doesn't follow the rules of regular Northern Hemisphere charts, as I had said earlier. A lot of research is needed in that area. In fact, I still suspect there is problem with your Lagna because of Southern Hemisphere orientation. So, please don't take this personally. I do hold you in high regard for your absolutely good heart.
Yellow,
Please don't place the blame on the doors of Mars where it doesn't belong.
Mars may have the trait of fighting very badly when he thinks some wrong is being done to him. Mars may attack in anger and speak rudely and arrogantly. Mars may show off too much. But remember this always - Mars always fights when he think some wrong is being done - whether he is right or not is a different issue. And, Mars always attacks from the front. He never, never stabs people in the back. It is against the nature of Mars to deceive people even if they may be his worst enemies. He will go to war, kill them, but never stab them in the back. And Mars never lies - not even in his worst angry moments. Dishonesty is not a trait of Mars.
And it is so for all the 3 fire signs and their rulers - anger, violence, conflicts, yes. But dishonesty, lies, cunning, backstabbing, no way.
In fact, Mars is the most misunderstood planet in astrology. He fights for what he thinks is right and he never deceives. But this doesn't go down well with the ways of the shrewd world. So, Mars has been maligned unnecessary in astrology and the really cunning planets like Rahu and Saturn have escaped a similar censure. It is usually Rahu - often helped by Saturn, who stabs people in the back for his own benefit.
Jegdis on this forum is a personified example of a Mars-ruled person - he is forthright, absolutely transparent, fights with authority when he thinks authority is wrong and he is amongst the most faithful and devoted husbands I have seen. He is simply not capable of deceiving his wife and others in his life.
Gaurav,
Now, about this chart, as I said Lagna and 5th house decide more the character of a person than anything else. Rahu or Saturn in Lagna can give a person a deceptive nature - Rahu more than Saturn. Saturn will also give some of his better characteristics, such as practical nature, hard working attitude, tendency to serve and as Anxious said - maturity, but a deceptive and corrupt nature because of Saturn in Lagna cannot be ruled out, unless the Lagna and/or the 5th house is also influenced by some benefics.
If the Lagna and/or 5th house has benefic influences as well, then the person may have an honest and righteous nature despite having Rahu or Saturn's influence on the Lagna or 5th house.
In Jupiter Mahadasha, his Jupiter aspecting 7th house was bound to give him relationships and possibly marriage, but Saturn in his chart rules 5th house of romance, is placed in Lagna and aspects 7th house. Hence, he went through all these deceptive relationships and paid services.
Yes, it is precisely Saturn in Lagna who pushed him towards that route, in retaliation to Jupiter aspecting his 7th house and trying to work out a good relationship for him.
By the way I won't be surprised if he develops some venereal disease or AIDS at some stage. Tell his wife she should be careful.
And I won't be surprised to know his wife has a bad Saturn influencing marriage.
In Saturn Antardasha, Jupiter's aspect on 7th reduced, so his relationships also stopped. I don't know how closely you know his marriage, but I won't be surprised to know he has a cold relation with his wife, no matter how good she is. By the way, he has got a good wife because of Jupiter - and Mars. Despite Saturn's retaliations, Jupiter - helped by Mars - has ensured a good wife for him.
And see - a good Saturn has protected him despite all his wrongdoings. And Saturn has not protected a good woman from getting a husband like him.
Even if he develops a disease, what about his good wife, who'll suffer without any fault of hers?
Saturn has not delivered justice.
Perhaps it's better to say that bad people usually have a good Saturn (and also often Rahu), but not the other way round i.e., people with good Saturn may not always be bad.
I had overlooked the fact that people's character is judged more by the Lagna and 5th house, than where Saturn is placed.
PS to Anxious - This doesn't apply to you as you have a Southern Hemisphere chart. Your chart doesn't follow the rules of regular Northern Hemisphere charts, as I had said earlier. A lot of research is needed in that area. In fact, I still suspect there is problem with your Lagna because of Southern Hemisphere orientation. So, please don't take this personally. I do hold you in high regard for your absolutely good heart.
Yellow,
Please don't place the blame on the doors of Mars where it doesn't belong.
Mars may have the trait of fighting very badly when he thinks some wrong is being done to him. Mars may attack in anger and speak rudely and arrogantly. Mars may show off too much. But remember this always - Mars always fights when he think some wrong is being done - whether he is right or not is a different issue. And, Mars always attacks from the front. He never, never stabs people in the back. It is against the nature of Mars to deceive people even if they may be his worst enemies. He will go to war, kill them, but never stab them in the back. And Mars never lies - not even in his worst angry moments. Dishonesty is not a trait of Mars.
And it is so for all the 3 fire signs and their rulers - anger, violence, conflicts, yes. But dishonesty, lies, cunning, backstabbing, no way.
In fact, Mars is the most misunderstood planet in astrology. He fights for what he thinks is right and he never deceives. But this doesn't go down well with the ways of the shrewd world. So, Mars has been maligned unnecessary in astrology and the really cunning planets like Rahu and Saturn have escaped a similar censure. It is usually Rahu - often helped by Saturn, who stabs people in the back for his own benefit.
Jegdis on this forum is a personified example of a Mars-ruled person - he is forthright, absolutely transparent, fights with authority when he thinks authority is wrong and he is amongst the most faithful and devoted husbands I have seen. He is simply not capable of deceiving his wife and others in his life.
Gaurav,
Now, about this chart, as I said Lagna and 5th house decide more the character of a person than anything else. Rahu or Saturn in Lagna can give a person a deceptive nature - Rahu more than Saturn. Saturn will also give some of his better characteristics, such as practical nature, hard working attitude, tendency to serve and as Anxious said - maturity, but a deceptive and corrupt nature because of Saturn in Lagna cannot be ruled out, unless the Lagna and/or the 5th house is also influenced by some benefics.
If the Lagna and/or 5th house has benefic influences as well, then the person may have an honest and righteous nature despite having Rahu or Saturn's influence on the Lagna or 5th house.
In Jupiter Mahadasha, his Jupiter aspecting 7th house was bound to give him relationships and possibly marriage, but Saturn in his chart rules 5th house of romance, is placed in Lagna and aspects 7th house. Hence, he went through all these deceptive relationships and paid services.
Yes, it is precisely Saturn in Lagna who pushed him towards that route, in retaliation to Jupiter aspecting his 7th house and trying to work out a good relationship for him.
By the way I won't be surprised if he develops some venereal disease or AIDS at some stage. Tell his wife she should be careful.
And I won't be surprised to know his wife has a bad Saturn influencing marriage.
In Saturn Antardasha, Jupiter's aspect on 7th reduced, so his relationships also stopped. I don't know how closely you know his marriage, but I won't be surprised to know he has a cold relation with his wife, no matter how good she is. By the way, he has got a good wife because of Jupiter - and Mars. Despite Saturn's retaliations, Jupiter - helped by Mars - has ensured a good wife for him.
And see - a good Saturn has protected him despite all his wrongdoings. And Saturn has not protected a good woman from getting a husband like him.
Even if he develops a disease, what about his good wife, who'll suffer without any fault of hers?
Saturn has not delivered justice.
Havan Manuals -
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12791&p=124553#p124488
hymns -
1 http://www.vignanam.org/
2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12791&p=124553#p124488
hymns -
1 http://www.vignanam.org/
2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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deeps
Does his parents and his wife knows that?Moreover why only look at Mercury and Venus as 12th and 8th lord? why not as 1st and 9th lord in 3rd?
8th is house of consoiracies, secrets...but it doe not look his indiscretions were a secret at all, if his friends knew so well about them!!
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deeps
Aha, thanks for confirming. Note carefully here, Saturn antardasha started in 2000. So why he did that in 2002? and I bet it must be late in 2002 as his Mercury antardasha was to start in few months. Mercury is known to give results earlier.well dude...I just checked his Vimsottari Dasha. He is running Jupiter MD from 1998 and it will end in 2014.
Starting from 2002 I have seen him quiet indulgent and he was like that till recent past when he finally got married and pledged to control his fantasies.
FYI 2002 he was was running Saturn AD.
Why it happened in Guru mahadasha? Well, fyi, Guru is best when situated alone. He is weak there as both materialistic planets as 12 Lord and 8th Lord have tainted Guru there. Guru is with 2 benefics indeed but with dire enemies. Further Guru is not welcome in 3rd house and neither Venus. Further, Guru is a malefic planet for libra lagna due to bad lordships.
Further Saturn has aspected Venus and Mercury. This aspect gives lots of sensual desires and it is said that mercury association with Saturn gives extra marital affairs. There is a thread on this forum on extra-marital affairs where it talked highly of Saturn's and mercury relations. Where is the aspect? It is in 3rd house, man!!! 3rd house is 8th house from 8th house. So traits of 8th house also applies to 3rd house.
Remember Saturn is aspecting mercury and venus and not vice-versa.
I rest my case here. Look at the entire chart and then give logic, my friend.
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deeps
Read my previous post and you will better understand it.3rd is only origin of desires. 11th has to be strong for actual FULFILLMENT of desires. So since 8th and 12th are in 3rd, desire might be there but how can it be tied to how he actually acted up on that or how his secret desires were fulfilled?--
11th house is definitely the house of fulfillment. Please note the Guru's aspect on 11th house of which He is the own Karaka.
8th house rules intrigues, secret enemies as Guru is 6th Lord and so quite possible, in the future, friends may expose him for their selfish gains.
Hi All,
My chart is similar, I got saturn in libra lagna , ketu in second house, mercury in 3 house, i am faithful to my wife. She s my 9 yr girlfriend. Any pointers on it.
My chart details
libra lagna - moon,venus,saturn
2 house - sun,jupiter, ketu
3 house - mercury
8 house - rahu
12 - mars
My chart is similar, I got saturn in libra lagna , ketu in second house, mercury in 3 house, i am faithful to my wife. She s my 9 yr girlfriend. Any pointers on it.
My chart details
libra lagna - moon,venus,saturn
2 house - sun,jupiter, ketu
3 house - mercury
8 house - rahu
12 - mars
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deeps
Hi ambisan,
you have a good chart with venus in own sign in Libra in 1st house which gives sensual pleasures but with one partner only. I quoted this from book. Thanks for sharing this information.
you have a good chart with venus in own sign in Libra in 1st house which gives sensual pleasures but with one partner only. I quoted this from book. Thanks for sharing this information.
Saindhavi ji,
I agree with all that you have said, but with all these qualities, passion is also one quality that Mars has, and everyone knows this that Venus-Mars combination is a famous one for bringing lust in a person. Read about what Mars in the 7th house does: it makes a person lustful. As exalted 7th lord, aspecting the 7th house, Mars can very well be the reason the person has so much lust in him. Venus is a romantic planet: it is a planet of love, not of passion, or lust. It's only Mars, which can turn love into lust--no other planet can do it. I don't know how you can blame Saturn for his nature. Saturn is an old haggard. It has nothing to do with lust, or passion, or love. It represents tradition. It is strict by nature. How can you blame it for the person's conduct? If the person has sobered now, if he has controlled his bad side, as he has said he has done, it's thanks to his Saturn in lagna. Saturn is a strict planet, which makes a person disciplined and is rightful in its conduct. That's my understanding of it. I don't agree with what you have said that Saturn is to blame for his faults.
I agree with all that you have said, but with all these qualities, passion is also one quality that Mars has, and everyone knows this that Venus-Mars combination is a famous one for bringing lust in a person. Read about what Mars in the 7th house does: it makes a person lustful. As exalted 7th lord, aspecting the 7th house, Mars can very well be the reason the person has so much lust in him. Venus is a romantic planet: it is a planet of love, not of passion, or lust. It's only Mars, which can turn love into lust--no other planet can do it. I don't know how you can blame Saturn for his nature. Saturn is an old haggard. It has nothing to do with lust, or passion, or love. It represents tradition. It is strict by nature. How can you blame it for the person's conduct? If the person has sobered now, if he has controlled his bad side, as he has said he has done, it's thanks to his Saturn in lagna. Saturn is a strict planet, which makes a person disciplined and is rightful in its conduct. That's my understanding of it. I don't agree with what you have said that Saturn is to blame for his faults.
Yellow
Please don't place the blame on the doors of Mars where it doesn't belong.
Mars may have the trait of fighting very badly when he thinks some wrong is being done to him. Mars may attack in anger and speak rudely and arrogantly. Mars may show off too much. But remember this always - Mars always fights when he think some wrong is being done - whether he is right or not is a different issue. And, Mars always attacks from the front. He never, never stabs people in the back. It is against the nature of Mars to deceive people even if they may be his worst enemies. He will go to war, kill them, but never stab them in the back. And Mars never lies - not even in his worst angry moments. Dishonesty is not a trait of Mars.
And it is so for all the 3 fire signs and their rulers - anger, violence, conflicts, yes. But dishonesty, lies, cunning, backstabbing, no way.
In fact, Mars is the most misunderstood planet in astrology. He fights for what he thinks is right and he never deceives. But this doesn't go down well with the ways of the shrewd world. So, Mars has been maligned unnecessary in astrology and the really cunning planets like Rahu and Saturn have escaped a similar censure. It is usually Rahu - often helped by Saturn, who stabs people in the back for his own benefit.
Jegdis on this forum is a personified example of a Mars-ruled person - he is forthright, absolutely transparent, fights with authority when he thinks authority is wrong and he is amongst the most faithful and devoted husbands I have seen. He is simply not capable of deceiving his wife and others in his life.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
I have been reading a lot of posts here on this forum about Saturn, the planet of justice not doing justice. It amazes me how one can not understand the simple theory that it is not necessary that justice will be done in this very life itself. For the sin a person has done in this life, he will, maybe, get paid in the next life, and the same way for the sin that a person has done in the previous life, he,maybe, is getting paid in this life. That is the reason why we see a person doing good in this life and still suffering because, who knows, maybe he was a man of sin in his previous life. And coming to those who do sin in this life and still enjoy success, who knows, maybe he was a man of virtue in his previous life and getting the fruits of that in this life.
Astrology makes sense only when we take into consideration the concept of rebirth. Or else, it seems completely meaningless as to how, on what basis each person gets his birth chart, good or bad. Take for example this guy, whose chart Gaurav has shared with us. Maybe, as a result of cheating girls in this life, he will get married to a chudel in his next life, and people will say, look he is such a nice guy, he worships women in his present life and still destiny has been so harsh on him getting him married to a chudel. Would anyone remember then how he had cheated so many girls in his previous lives as a result of which he is paid back that way? So Saturn delivers justice, but after much delay--as Saturn is a slow moving planet, everything about it is bound to be slow, even his delivering justice.
Astrology makes sense only when we take into consideration the concept of rebirth. Or else, it seems completely meaningless as to how, on what basis each person gets his birth chart, good or bad. Take for example this guy, whose chart Gaurav has shared with us. Maybe, as a result of cheating girls in this life, he will get married to a chudel in his next life, and people will say, look he is such a nice guy, he worships women in his present life and still destiny has been so harsh on him getting him married to a chudel. Would anyone remember then how he had cheated so many girls in his previous lives as a result of which he is paid back that way? So Saturn delivers justice, but after much delay--as Saturn is a slow moving planet, everything about it is bound to be slow, even his delivering justice.
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"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
