Hi Deeps,
No, I don't have in-depth knowledge of astrology. The point you have mentioned I have read in the BPHS in the commentary of the author. There is another point, which you have not mentioned here. it's this that the first sign from the natural zodiac will have more effect than the second one, when a planet lords two houses. Taking that point into consideration, from Aries the 1st house of the natural zodiac, Taurus is the first house and Libra the second and so Taurus and not Libra will show more effect... Taurus in the case of the boy being his 1st house. So two contradictory theory faces us, and we need to consider both, than choose the one that fits the life of the person.
Coming to exalted dusthana house, it will give its result like any other house, that is, it will give strong results of its attributes. Now, 6th house has both positive and negative qualities, so it will give the effect of both kinds of attributes strongly. Like 6th house being the house of enemies, disease, obstacles, there will be big obstacles, strong enemies, difficult diseases, but at the same time, it being the house of competition, healing, stamina, it will give the ability to compete fiercely, good resistance power, or to recover from difficult disease and tremendous stamina.
6th house is also the house of law, medicine, and if a person has connection of 6th house with 10th house, it can make a person a lawyer and a doctor.
Well, yes, you are right, health issues can be there, too, but he will recover from it as 6th lord is strong and is in 11th house.
Actually, I didn't notice his age, so I said about competition and all that. You are right his is not the age to know about competition. He will do well in life, I feel as this is the not the age to discover the true talents of a person, unless the person is a prodigy.
83 and 84 born people with Exalted Saturn
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I saw your nephew's chart, it indeed is a very strong chart, with many exalted planets. He is running an excellent period of lagna lord Venus exalted in the 11th house. It should give him very good results, which not happening seems quite amazing to me.
Seeing his 5th lord in the 12th house, I feel, he will study in a place far away from home. His Sun major period coming next will take him abroad or somewhere far away from his home.
Coming to your friend's chart, I feel, she started having diabetes problem (though not diagnosed then) in her Venus period only because that would make more sense from an astrological perspective. You friend has a strong lagna lord apparently, but then, it is combust and hemmed by malefics from both sides, which can mean health problems. Don't take me wrong, but can't help but asking, what's the situation from career and marriage/love perspective? Jupiter can give diabetes when afflicted, but here it owns the 7th and 10th house in the chart and can damage the significance of those houses, too, at the same time.
Yellow,
Lets start with my friend's chart first.....prima facie, it looks that Venus dasha would have been the culprit for her disease but that is not the case. On the contrary, she has had a very healthy constitution till she was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic. She belongs to a pretty well off punjabi business family and has been a pampered child. All throughout her venus dasha, she had not faced any kind of health problems, never got hospitalized (venus being an afflicted 12th lord as well) and was rather enjoying the better significations of venus; a luxurious lifestyle (car, clothes, gadgets,jewellery,accessories,etc), a very classy dressing sense which came naturally to her, a large friend circle and is known as a very pleasant host. She has received decent education with no breaks (B.tech & Masters in marketing from UK) . She has been an average student though.
What is even more interesting is that she had got her medical examination done twice in 2007 for a medical insurance and all the reports had come clean. However, when she got herself examined before joining her first job in Feb/March 2008 her sugar levels were found to be quite high.
Jupiter has been a problem planet for her really.....despite having a good education, pleasing personality, comm skills,etc she has not been able to find a suitable job for herself and has changed career paths frequently since passing out of engg. college in 2007. She went to a very reputed university in UK to pursue her masters in sept-oct 2010 in sun-jupiter and sun-saturn dasha (jupiter 7th lord giving her foreign stay and 9th lord saturn giving her higher education abroad) but the British govt. suddenly changed its visa norms which made it very difficult for non EU students to get accepted by companies there. The deteriorating Eurozone economy meant that she had to pack her bags and come back to India to find a job.She is still not at all satisfied with her present job and feels that she is underpain.
What troubles me the most is the fact that her married life might get affected the same way as Jupiter holds her marriage portfolio as well and is sitting in a debilited condition in the 8th house aspected by saturn.Perhaps, Moon's placement is a saving grace.The pattern in Navamsha is also not very encouraging.
However, what is remarkable is her zeal and zest for life and her resilience.....a result of havin an unafflicted moon in a kendra....maybe its God's way of compensating.She is still completely focussed in getting the goodies; making a good career,lotsa money,wants to travel across the globe and is not much perturbed by her disease except when it flares up once in a while (has had 2 hospitalizations since the disease was diagnosed).
I saw your nephew's chart, it indeed is a very strong chart, with many exalted planets. He is running an excellent period of lagna lord Venus exalted in the 11th house. It should give him very good results, which not happening seems quite amazing to me.
Seeing his 5th lord in the 12th house, I feel, he will study in a place far away from home. His Sun major period coming next will take him abroad or somewhere far away from his home.
Coming to your friend's chart, I feel, she started having diabetes problem (though not diagnosed then) in her Venus period only because that would make more sense from an astrological perspective. You friend has a strong lagna lord apparently, but then, it is combust and hemmed by malefics from both sides, which can mean health problems. Don't take me wrong, but can't help but asking, what's the situation from career and marriage/love perspective? Jupiter can give diabetes when afflicted, but here it owns the 7th and 10th house in the chart and can damage the significance of those houses, too, at the same time.
Yellow,
Lets start with my friend's chart first.....prima facie, it looks that Venus dasha would have been the culprit for her disease but that is not the case. On the contrary, she has had a very healthy constitution till she was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic. She belongs to a pretty well off punjabi business family and has been a pampered child. All throughout her venus dasha, she had not faced any kind of health problems, never got hospitalized (venus being an afflicted 12th lord as well) and was rather enjoying the better significations of venus; a luxurious lifestyle (car, clothes, gadgets,jewellery,accessories,etc), a very classy dressing sense which came naturally to her, a large friend circle and is known as a very pleasant host. She has received decent education with no breaks (B.tech & Masters in marketing from UK) . She has been an average student though.
What is even more interesting is that she had got her medical examination done twice in 2007 for a medical insurance and all the reports had come clean. However, when she got herself examined before joining her first job in Feb/March 2008 her sugar levels were found to be quite high.
Jupiter has been a problem planet for her really.....despite having a good education, pleasing personality, comm skills,etc she has not been able to find a suitable job for herself and has changed career paths frequently since passing out of engg. college in 2007. She went to a very reputed university in UK to pursue her masters in sept-oct 2010 in sun-jupiter and sun-saturn dasha (jupiter 7th lord giving her foreign stay and 9th lord saturn giving her higher education abroad) but the British govt. suddenly changed its visa norms which made it very difficult for non EU students to get accepted by companies there. The deteriorating Eurozone economy meant that she had to pack her bags and come back to India to find a job.She is still not at all satisfied with her present job and feels that she is underpain.
What troubles me the most is the fact that her married life might get affected the same way as Jupiter holds her marriage portfolio as well and is sitting in a debilited condition in the 8th house aspected by saturn.Perhaps, Moon's placement is a saving grace.The pattern in Navamsha is also not very encouraging.
However, what is remarkable is her zeal and zest for life and her resilience.....a result of havin an unafflicted moon in a kendra....maybe its God's way of compensating.She is still completely focussed in getting the goodies; making a good career,lotsa money,wants to travel across the globe and is not much perturbed by her disease except when it flares up once in a while (has had 2 hospitalizations since the disease was diagnosed).
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deeps
Where I can get BPHS?No, I don't have in-depth knowledge of astrology. The point you have mentioned I have read in the BPHS in the commentary of the author. There is another point, which you have not mentioned here. it's this that the first sign from the natural zodiac will have more effect than the second one, when a planet lords two houses. Taking that point into consideration, from Aries the 1st house of the natural zodiac, Taurus is the first house and Libra the second and so Taurus and not Libra will show more effect... Taurus in the case of the boy being his 1st house. So two contradictory theory faces us, and we need to consider both, than choose the one that fits the life of the person.
Thanks for sharing your views on BPHS.
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deeps
6th represents law and 12th house represents Jail? Am i right? How 6th house can be connected to medicine?6th house is also the house of law, medicine, and if a person has connection of 6th house with 10th house, it can make a person a lawyer and a doctor.
Well, yes, you are right, health issues can be there, too, but he will recover from it as 6th lord is strong and is in 11th house.
Deeps,
It's not the view of BPHS. I read it in the commentary of the author, who translated the BPHS. He explained it, while writing about the meaning of one of the astrological slokas in BPHS. I bought BPHS online long back, but they charged me much more than the original price, so I would ask you to buy it from some shop where astrology books are available.
It's not the view of BPHS. I read it in the commentary of the author, who translated the BPHS. He explained it, while writing about the meaning of one of the astrological slokas in BPHS. I bought BPHS online long back, but they charged me much more than the original price, so I would ask you to buy it from some shop where astrology books are available.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Yes, Deeps, 12th house represents jail, and about 6th house being connected to medicine, well, it is the house of disease and also the house of healing and medicine is something which is connected to disease and healing strongly, so the connection.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Pray,
It is very strange indeed that her Venus major period has not given her health issues. As 12th lord of hospitalization, and being afflicted by 6th lord Mars and 8th lord Saturn, it should have given her health issues. It should also have made her pass through emotional turbulence, maybe because of some failure in love, as Venus, the planet of love, is the 5th lord of mind and having double affliction.
The points that favour her are, Venus is a functional benefic for her chart and is a raja yoga karaka in the navamsha chart, where it is in own sign. The luxurious life that you talk about is most probably because of her Venus being a functional benefic in her chart, and they being the natural significations of the planet, though the affliction to it, should deny her all that it signifies is what one would think.
Her having a technical education could be due to the fact that her 5th lord has malefic influences, and her not being that good in her studies is maybe due to the affliction by the 6th and 8th lords Mars and Saturn respectively.
About Sun period giving health issues, the only thing I can think of is this: Sun is the significator of health and is with the lagna lord, Mercury, burning it completely, and has malefics on either side of it, and in the navamsha, it again gets afflicted by Ketu, and Mars--Sun being the 8th lord in navamsha, is a point to consider, too.
Coming to Jupiter, it being the 10th lord, getting debiliated in the 8th house and further getting aspected by Saturn from the 6th house, shows problems when it comes to career. Marriage problems are possible as Venus is afflicted, too, and as you rightly said, the navamsha doesn't promise anything good in regard to that.
I think, what gives her strength of character is her Mars, which is with her 5th lord Venus in the chart. Saturn in the 6th house as a malefic, gives her again the strength to keep fighting. Malefics in the 6th house gives tremedous stamina to keep going on, in spite of obstacles that comes on the way.
It is very strange indeed that her Venus major period has not given her health issues. As 12th lord of hospitalization, and being afflicted by 6th lord Mars and 8th lord Saturn, it should have given her health issues. It should also have made her pass through emotional turbulence, maybe because of some failure in love, as Venus, the planet of love, is the 5th lord of mind and having double affliction.
The points that favour her are, Venus is a functional benefic for her chart and is a raja yoga karaka in the navamsha chart, where it is in own sign. The luxurious life that you talk about is most probably because of her Venus being a functional benefic in her chart, and they being the natural significations of the planet, though the affliction to it, should deny her all that it signifies is what one would think.
Her having a technical education could be due to the fact that her 5th lord has malefic influences, and her not being that good in her studies is maybe due to the affliction by the 6th and 8th lords Mars and Saturn respectively.
About Sun period giving health issues, the only thing I can think of is this: Sun is the significator of health and is with the lagna lord, Mercury, burning it completely, and has malefics on either side of it, and in the navamsha, it again gets afflicted by Ketu, and Mars--Sun being the 8th lord in navamsha, is a point to consider, too.
Coming to Jupiter, it being the 10th lord, getting debiliated in the 8th house and further getting aspected by Saturn from the 6th house, shows problems when it comes to career. Marriage problems are possible as Venus is afflicted, too, and as you rightly said, the navamsha doesn't promise anything good in regard to that.
I think, what gives her strength of character is her Mars, which is with her 5th lord Venus in the chart. Saturn in the 6th house as a malefic, gives her again the strength to keep fighting. Malefics in the 6th house gives tremedous stamina to keep going on, in spite of obstacles that comes on the way.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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About Sun period giving health issues, the only thing I can think of is this: Sun is the significator of health and is with the lagna lord, Mercury, burning it completely, and has malefics on either side of it, and in the navamsha, it again gets afflicted by Ketu, and Mars--Sun being the 8th lord in navamsha, is a point to consider, too.
No offence to anyone, but most of the logic that we guys apply is after knowing that something has already happened.....we try to somehow justify the outcome....the real art of astrological prediction is about understanding the behavioural nature of each planet for a particular horoscope......astrology is supposed to be a prediction tool rather than an introspection tool.....
Her venus dasha was not all that bad for her though it looked in a pathetic state whereas in my nephew's case it looks rock solid to deliver the goods but stops short of giving anything extraordinary other than a happy & priviledged childhood.
About Sun period giving health issues, the only thing I can think of is this: Sun is the significator of health and is with the lagna lord, Mercury, burning it completely, and has malefics on either side of it, and in the navamsha, it again gets afflicted by Ketu, and Mars--Sun being the 8th lord in navamsha, is a point to consider, too.
No offence to anyone, but most of the logic that we guys apply is after knowing that something has already happened.....we try to somehow justify the outcome....the real art of astrological prediction is about understanding the behavioural nature of each planet for a particular horoscope......astrology is supposed to be a prediction tool rather than an introspection tool.....
Her venus dasha was not all that bad for her though it looked in a pathetic state whereas in my nephew's case it looks rock solid to deliver the goods but stops short of giving anything extraordinary other than a happy & priviledged childhood.
Deeps,deeps wrote:Hi Pray,
There is a rule in phaldeepika about the ownership of Good and Bad houses. It states if for taurua lagna, mooltrikon house is libra which lords 6th house. So the overall effects will be that of the 6th house exalted in 11th house and less of lagna. Here it can mean health problems.
This maybe the reason why the dasha of Venus did not give much. Please consult others, I may be wrong.
Though I am no scholar in astrology and don't expect to be one anytime soon, I would suggest you to follow the astrological dictums from the classics liberally and not literally.....you will end up getting a very distorted, restricted and copybook view of analysing horoscopes.
At the expense of upsetting the conservatives, I have seen the dashas of lord of strong unafflicted tikonas (1,5,9) giving terrible results in their bhuktis many a times (including myself). Though it is a universally known dictum that these lords confer great results.
Infact, what I have seen to work more accurately is that once you recast the horoscope treating the mahadasha lord as lagna, the lords of these tikonas at times become the lords of dushsthanas, which explains their bhuktis giving unfavourable results. Similarly, lords of dushsthanas in the birth chart also tend to give really good results when they end being lords of auspicious houses when you recast the horoscope for a particular mahadasha.
Pray,
I completely get your point, and what I wrote was a retrospective analysis, but that is what we are doing here, isn't it--trying to figure out why her Venus period was good and Sun period was bad?
Now, coming to why you said it, that astrology is not about introspection, but about prediction, I agree that I was trying to figure out how the chart could be made to make sense, with how the person lived her life, and I know, I was not convinced myself of the explanation I gave on it, and you weren't, either, from what I got from your post, but then, there wouldn't be the need to pick up a discussion on this chart as because we both know very well that it is not making sense, and we have been honest about it, too, in our posts in the beginning, you saying that it didn't make sense, and I seconding it, but as you said, it's nice to see that a discussion has been started on the birth chart, which can be nothing but a retrospective analysis as we are trying to figure out the reasons for how things have been in her life, I thought of putting my best effort, to dig out the hidden elements in the chart, with the little knowledge that I have, to see if it could make sense. If you can make a more convincing point as to why the planetary periods behaved completely opposite to how they were expected to behave, I would be really interested to hear that.
I completely agree with you that her Venus dasha should not have been that good for her, but I beg to differ with you that it is not showing its effect in your nephew's case. What do you expect from a child of 9 years age, other than this that he have a happy and priviledged childhood? Do you want to see him earn a million rupees now, or see him become a fashion icon, or drown himself in all kinds of luxuries that man can ever think of?
We should try to apply logic sometimes--the time when we get a good period is very important. A very good period if got in a childhood is a wasted period as in that period you can't expect him to utilize it that much.
If you say that a child didn't get married in the 7th lord period he was running or another child didn't do a job in the 10th lord period he was running, so astrology is not making sense in those cases is exactly similar to your saying, your nephew not having the effect of what lagna lord in the 11th house shows, the planets are not showing their effect in his case.
I completely get your point, and what I wrote was a retrospective analysis, but that is what we are doing here, isn't it--trying to figure out why her Venus period was good and Sun period was bad?
Now, coming to why you said it, that astrology is not about introspection, but about prediction, I agree that I was trying to figure out how the chart could be made to make sense, with how the person lived her life, and I know, I was not convinced myself of the explanation I gave on it, and you weren't, either, from what I got from your post, but then, there wouldn't be the need to pick up a discussion on this chart as because we both know very well that it is not making sense, and we have been honest about it, too, in our posts in the beginning, you saying that it didn't make sense, and I seconding it, but as you said, it's nice to see that a discussion has been started on the birth chart, which can be nothing but a retrospective analysis as we are trying to figure out the reasons for how things have been in her life, I thought of putting my best effort, to dig out the hidden elements in the chart, with the little knowledge that I have, to see if it could make sense. If you can make a more convincing point as to why the planetary periods behaved completely opposite to how they were expected to behave, I would be really interested to hear that.
I completely agree with you that her Venus dasha should not have been that good for her, but I beg to differ with you that it is not showing its effect in your nephew's case. What do you expect from a child of 9 years age, other than this that he have a happy and priviledged childhood? Do you want to see him earn a million rupees now, or see him become a fashion icon, or drown himself in all kinds of luxuries that man can ever think of?
We should try to apply logic sometimes--the time when we get a good period is very important. A very good period if got in a childhood is a wasted period as in that period you can't expect him to utilize it that much.
If you say that a child didn't get married in the 7th lord period he was running or another child didn't do a job in the 10th lord period he was running, so astrology is not making sense in those cases is exactly similar to your saying, your nephew not having the effect of what lagna lord in the 11th house shows, the planets are not showing their effect in his case.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
Hi Pray,Though I am no scholar in astrology and don't expect to be one anytime soon, I would suggest you to follow the astrological dictums from the classics liberally and not literally.....you will end up getting a very distorted, restricted and copybook view of analysing horoscopes.
See I am learning astrology through Phaldeepika and it has been more than a month now. I believe that unless I have a good knowledge of classical texts, It will be difficult to intrepret liberally.
Suppose, I read that Venus in 4th house gives horses, bulls and so on. In modern times, it can mean mercedes, Ferrari and so on. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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deeps
This is what I read that trikonas are always auspicious. Do you have any chart where the period of Trikonas were bad?At the expense of upsetting the conservatives, I have seen the dashas of lord of strong unafflicted tikonas (1,5,9) giving terrible results in their bhuktis many a times (including myself). Though it is a universally known dictum that these lords confer great results.
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deeps
Hi Sankargv,I got a rare case in our family we have 3 generations with saturn exalted. My dad (born 1954 ), Me (born 1983), My baby (to be born sep 2012 ). I have heard me and my dad had sasha yoga. My dad couldnt complete education but having 150 people working under him in the govt.He has exalted saturn in 7 th house. Dont have his birth details, will try to get it. My case exalted saturn in lagna. Hope my baby too has it.Till date my life smooth but not so great. Working in a giant mnc in a small position. My details 02-dec-1983 04:02 AM chennai tamilnadu.
Can you share general about the life of your dad?
In what way life is not so great? what you feel these days?
Yes, your would be baby would have exalted Saturn in september.
Sankar/ Deeps
Bepin Bihari has written extensively about Sasha Yoga in his book Esoteric Principles of Astrology. His analysis about the manifestation of this yoga in a native's life is very different from the standard view given in classics and it does fit the bill in many horoscopes that I have seen. The link for the book is given below (Chapter 24).
He has rightly pointed out that this yoga has less to do with giving riches as widely percieved by astrologers.
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=5jDC ... ri&f=false
Bepin Bihari has written extensively about Sasha Yoga in his book Esoteric Principles of Astrology. His analysis about the manifestation of this yoga in a native's life is very different from the standard view given in classics and it does fit the bill in many horoscopes that I have seen. The link for the book is given below (Chapter 24).
He has rightly pointed out that this yoga has less to do with giving riches as widely percieved by astrologers.
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=5jDC ... ri&f=false
deeps wrote:Hi Pray,Though I am no scholar in astrology and don't expect to be one anytime soon, I would suggest you to follow the astrological dictums from the classics liberally and not literally.....you will end up getting a very distorted, restricted and copybook view of analysing horoscopes.
See I am learning astrology through Phaldeepika and it has been more than a month now. I believe that unless I have a good knowledge of classical texts, It will be difficult to intrepret liberally.
Suppose, I read that Venus in 4th house gives horses, bulls and so on. In modern times, it can mean mercedes, Ferrari and so on. Please correct me if I am wrong.
You are absolutely right.....you need to go through the commentaries on classics to get an idea about the basics of vedic astrology. You can't really proceed further without having the basic knowledge of planets & houses.
But what I actually meant was that you need to align your understanding accordingly when you read a dictum and not follow it blindly when you spot its applicability in a particular horoscope...there are myriad factors working in a person's life/birth chart and cracking the "Da Vinci code"
ain't that easy as it looks like. Hope we are on the same page.....
Hi Deeps,
MY user id got deleted i had to create a new one. I got this board got no forums error.
Reg my dad's life .
He studied schooling last , he lost his dad when he was 17, he joined govt serivce in 18, supported his big family, worked for his brothers and sister life too hard in his young age. He got married in 23 my mom is from very rich landlord family. My sister was born when he was 26 and i was born when he was 29. He raised in his career fast than his peers, as he was working from teen age, he moved into middle management position early and settled in it. Going to retire in an year or so. Happily settled. He s scorpio moon and aries lagna. I have seen the real disciplinarian in him ,
About me :
I completed engineering after a few breaks. I went to good naval job, quit it. Studied engineering. Tried to prepare for civil services, left tat. Got a decent IT job. Then moved to a big mnc with a decent pay.Last few years life s really dull not much action. I am trying on a sharemarket venture, not succeding in it, wanted to start a agriculture farm venture, no hope in that, was trying to go abroad to acumulate some money no success over there.
Family side married my lover but lost parents good will, we are together but the rapport gone down. No proper respect and care from wife's side. The ultimate happiness was the baby.
MY user id got deleted i had to create a new one. I got this board got no forums error.
Reg my dad's life .
He studied schooling last , he lost his dad when he was 17, he joined govt serivce in 18, supported his big family, worked for his brothers and sister life too hard in his young age. He got married in 23 my mom is from very rich landlord family. My sister was born when he was 26 and i was born when he was 29. He raised in his career fast than his peers, as he was working from teen age, he moved into middle management position early and settled in it. Going to retire in an year or so. Happily settled. He s scorpio moon and aries lagna. I have seen the real disciplinarian in him ,
About me :
I completed engineering after a few breaks. I went to good naval job, quit it. Studied engineering. Tried to prepare for civil services, left tat. Got a decent IT job. Then moved to a big mnc with a decent pay.Last few years life s really dull not much action. I am trying on a sharemarket venture, not succeding in it, wanted to start a agriculture farm venture, no hope in that, was trying to go abroad to acumulate some money no success over there.
Family side married my lover but lost parents good will, we are together but the rapport gone down. No proper respect and care from wife's side. The ultimate happiness was the baby.
deeps wrote:Hi Pray,
There is a rule in phaldeepika about the ownership of Good and Bad houses. It states if for taurua lagna, mooltrikon house is libra which lords 6th house. So the overall effects will be that of the 6th house exalted in 11th house and less of lagna. Here it can mean health problems.
This maybe the reason why the dasha of Venus did not give much. Please consult others, I may be wrong.
Deeps,
I gave you this suggestion after reading this post of yours about my nephew's chart.
Here is an interesting chart:
30 Oct , 1971
11.34 am
Budhana/ muzzafarnagar , UP
Apply the dictum from Phaladeepika quoted by you on this horoscope and see how was the recently concluded Mercury -Venus dasha for the native.
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deeps
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=5jDC ... ri&f=false
Hi pray,
Thankyou for the link but unfortunately some pages are missing. I still could not reach the conclusion.
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deeps
Hi Pray,Here is an interesting chart:
30 Oct , 1971
11.34 am
Budhana/ muzzafarnagar , UP
Apply the dictum from Phaladeepika quoted by you on this horoscope and see how was the recently concluded Mercury -Venus dasha for the native.
Thanks for the chart. Since I am a beginner in this forum, I will still try my 2 cents-
Dhanu Lagna. For such lagna, Saturn is the chief Markesh.
Moon in Kumbh and conjunct Mars, the native is prone to anger and blood related problems.
Since the query is about Mercury/Venus period, if we apply here the mooltrikon formula, Venus period should have been good, either from elder siblings.
BUT
The transits have been bad since May'08. He is still under Ashtam Shani Dosh. Looks like a struggle period so far.
Since I am a rookie astrologer,
, I heard that dashas fail to give what is promised in the chart if there is Sade-sati or dhaiya.-
deeps
Sorry to hear that your id got deactivated. Must be some technical error.Reg my dad's life .
He studied schooling last , he lost his dad when he was 17, he joined govt serivce in 18, supported his big family, worked for his brothers and sister life too hard in his young age. He got married in 23 my mom is from very rich landlord family. My sister was born when he was 26 and i was born when he was 29. He raised in his career fast than his peers, as he was working from teen age, he moved into middle management position early and settled in it. Going to retire in an year or so. Happily settled. He s scorpio moon and aries lagna. I have seen the real disciplinarian in him ,
About me :
I completed engineering after a few breaks. I went to good naval job, quit it. Studied engineering. Tried to prepare for civil services, left tat. Got a decent IT job. Then moved to a big mnc with a decent pay.Last few years life s really dull not much action. I am trying on a sharemarket venture, not succeding in it, wanted to start a agriculture farm venture, no hope in that, was trying to go abroad to acumulate some money no success over there.
Family side married my lover but lost parents good will, we are together but the rapport gone down. No proper respect and care from wife's side. The ultimate happiness was the baby.
Thanks for sharing your views.
Since when you are feeling dull in your life? I mean at what age?
Deeps,deeps wrote:Since I am a rookie astrologer,
I have read this that when the dasha is good, a bad transit doesn't do much damage, and I have seen it in a few charts, too. I have seen a chart, where a good dasha has not caused any problem for the native, even though he was running sade-sathi, and have seen a few charts, were bad dashas were running, and they caused huge problems for the people having those charts when it was accompanied by bad transits, like sade-sathi etc.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Pray,
How was the Mercury dasha in general? Was the Venus sub-period only bad, or the whole Mercury dasha?
How was the Mercury dasha in general? Was the Venus sub-period only bad, or the whole Mercury dasha?
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
Yellow,I have seen a chart, where a good dasha has not caused any problem for the native, even though he was running sade-sathi,
This could be an exception to what I said earlier. By the way, do you have the chart?
Deeps,
I don't think it is an exception because K.N. Rao has said about this rule, and then, I have read about many people in his articles, who passed through sade-sathi and didn't have any trouble; on the contrary, they had great successes in that bad transit. The chart I was talking of is my brothers, so yes, I have it with me.
I don't think it is an exception because K.N. Rao has said about this rule, and then, I have read about many people in his articles, who passed through sade-sathi and didn't have any trouble; on the contrary, they had great successes in that bad transit. The chart I was talking of is my brothers, so yes, I have it with me.
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"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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Tiwari
Hi,
Interesting thread. My dad and I have exalted saturn. His is in 11th mine in 2nd. My saturn mahadasha was intense and difficult. But I think it gave me depth and maturity in thoughts, good and bad at the same time. My career is going fine, and normally my relationship with others is nice. I know three people, very close to me, other than my dad, who have exalted saturn. One has saturn in seventh, 53 born, other is 84 exalted saturn in eighth, and finally an 85 born exalted saturn in second. Interestingly, my close ones have well-placed saturn, and often jupiter afflicted by saturn
Interesting thread. My dad and I have exalted saturn. His is in 11th mine in 2nd. My saturn mahadasha was intense and difficult. But I think it gave me depth and maturity in thoughts, good and bad at the same time. My career is going fine, and normally my relationship with others is nice. I know three people, very close to me, other than my dad, who have exalted saturn. One has saturn in seventh, 53 born, other is 84 exalted saturn in eighth, and finally an 85 born exalted saturn in second. Interestingly, my close ones have well-placed saturn, and often jupiter afflicted by saturn
