Does this indicate mother's death as soon as child was born

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Following is one of my friends details (male) his mother died just after delivery. His father then got married to mother's sister. Now all are spending happy life..She loves him as her sun.. Can we see this with his chart ?
If so how ? Share your thoughts...

1984/09/26
02.20 Am (24Hrs)
Place- Hambantota (Sri Lanka)
81.10E , 06.15N
Lagnam- Cancer
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IMO, Two reasons :

1. The papakaratari yoga around the 4th house.
2. As per the principle, "Karako Bhava Nasho, Venus, in 4th house.
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Are they strong indications ??
Can you pls elaborate this "Karako Bhava Nasho" and Venus, in 4th house ?

There is Shasha Maha Yoga and Malwya yogas in 4th house. Can this happen to such person ?
It may not be seen in the chart since his 2 mother is actually like his own mother.
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Where is the Papa Kartari yoga here ? The 4th house is flanked by the Lagna lord on one side, Granted that there is Ketu on the other. Is that a Papa Kartari ? Its Not. For a Papa Kartari yoga, a planet or a house must be flanked by two malefics on either side. If you look closely, Shukra is flanked on one side by the Moon and the other side by Shani - who is exalted in the D1, But debilitated in the D9.

Granted that the 8th lord - exalted - is in the 4th. Granted that the Moon is just out of Amavasya. Still,..... is it enough to kill the mother ? I doubt it. The 4th lord is in the 4th house in a kendra from the lagna making the significations of that house very strong . There is a Sasa yoga and a Malavya yoga in the 4th house. How can the 4th house be so weak? Could there be a dosha that is afflicting the 4th house, ........ that dosha made strong due to the presence of a exalted 8th lord in the 4th house ? :wink:
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Laka,

There is error with time of birth. It should be around 2:40 am for death of mother to cccur.
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You are right astroboy, I overlooked some of the factors but then what do you think the cause of this loss?
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Astroboy,

Thanks for the KPD links. With all the views mentioned in your post :

View 1 - If a Graha owns two Kendras and occupies another Kendra Then a Kendradhipatya dosha occurs

Looks View 1 is not applicable here as no planet is owning two kendras.

View 2 :- Some astrologers are of the opinion that if a Graha owns a Kendra and occupies another Kendra, while that planet does not Simultaneously own the 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th and the 12th house, then that Graha is subject to Kendradhipatya dosha,

Both Planets Sat and Ven are occupying 11th and 8th ownerships resp so this rule also not applicable here.

View 3 - Kendradhipatya dosha is said to affect only natural benefics, ie, Guru, Shukra, a waxing Moon, and Budha who is unblemished by other malefics and is well placed,

Condition of lordships is not mentioned here;

View 4 - A natural benefic who owns a Kendra is subject to Kendradipatya dosha no matter where he is placed, and no matter what other house he owns.

This looks applicable but there may be thousands of such charts :) where the natural benefic owinig kendra is placed in own house.

View 5 - A Graha who owns both a Kendra and a Trikona is exempt from Kendradhipatya dosha
Looks not applicable here as they are not woing trokona.


So it looks only View 4 is applicable but question is, can this condition be capable of this cause? :?

I feel, there must be something more into this. Interesting chart to dig out the reason if the birth time is correct :)
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What is the s/w you used to create chart ?
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by rehr » Sun May 06, 2012 3:53 pm
I feel, there must be something more into this. Interesting chart to dig out the reason if the birth time is correct
If 1 hour +/- ( depending on the Lagna ) is the error in birth time, ( Lagna is @ 14 Deg ) then all the charts on the forum are wrong.

if there is something more than this, I have missed it. Do you see some other combination that I cant ? Will be happy to learn.

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Hi All,

Did you consider badhakesh conjunct eighth lord saturn.

Moon the karaka for the mother placed in the twelveth to the fourth.

From the fourth house jupiter in marana karaka sthana conjunct a double maraka Maras, and mercury in badhaka sthana and eighth house afflicted by Rahu.

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astroboy wrote:if there is something more than this, I have missed it. Do you see some other combination that I cant ? Will be happy to learn
No Astroboy, I dont have any but I believe there are many more learned members in this forum who can share their views and just like you, I like to learn from everyone. :)

Thanks for sharing your views.
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Sujit wrote:Laka,

There is error with time of birth. It should be around 2:40 am for death of mother to cccur.
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Time is correct.. I think chart doesn't indicate this since his second mother is actually like his ded mother.
I personally know how much her loves that sun..
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Laka, sorry I missed a post of yours. I use J hora to create charts.
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In above chart , within five minuts Mars changing the place - goes in sagg from scorp.

If we take birthtiming 02:25 am, Moon as MK(matrukarak) and the dasa was at that time Moon-ketu-moon-rahu which is perfect triggered (In my opine).

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Hi
Maybe you could use Pluto

Asc. lies in the 7.19 in Cancer.
The mother is 4 house Libra. Venus is in 6.35 in Libra.
4 house is 7.19 in Libra.
When the mother dies during childbirth, 7.17 Pluto transits of Venus conj. 4 house.
Pluto is both death and birth.

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astroboy wrote:Laka, sorry I missed a post of yours. I use J hora to create charts.
Thanks.. Think this is free one.. but seems bit difference in appearance compared to mine jhora..
see..How did you get such chart about degree..?

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