Club '79 - jinxed or a mere coincidence?

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Narayan
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Swamykoolji:

"Well I don't know about pollution of the mind and all."

Ha...ha... :D What does the Rahu and Saturn in 5th house indicate and what does 5th house stands for then if Lagna is Mesh? If Lagna is Mesh, then it is just because of that 5th house darkness only plus Gulika Lord Venus in Lagnadipathi's own house of Scorpio , she is like this. Furthermore, if lagna is Mesh, then in her second house is Gulika which is the house of character as well.

That second lord is at fall in Scorpio in the house of lust, hence giving it a relation to Mars.

"but if Lg is Mesh and Guru (9th and 12th L) exalted in the 4th, I'm sure she has a good heart. 8)"

If the real heart has to be clear, first that 5th house has to be clear. In 5th house, there should be no papa grahas. Till that time, the real heart cannot shine there.

Swamykoolji, there is no use in just the 9th house and 9th lord being good, it will just result in material things like she is having. The 2nd and 5th are more important as well.

5th house mind where thought process and whole the world is and everything happens leads to 2nd house character, morality, ability to understand what is right and wrong etc.

2nd, 5th and 9th should be clear in D-1 and these lords should not be afflicted in D-9.

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Narayan wrote: It is not gyaan, but I spoke the simple truth. I did not talk gyaan at all. Why are u always telling it as gynan. I am a common man with common interests. I am not at all a gynani or anywhere near a gynani.

Did I say that anybody has raised question against it? But, I was saying as my opinion that it is not a jinx.
Didn't you write the following?
Narayan wrote:
Respected all 78-79 people:

The truth is
it is not a jinx, but a coincidence as the result of our own actions from past lives.
Don't you think, in that case, I must thank you for sharing a SIMPLE (but perhaps an ABSOLUTE) TRUTH and hence gyaan with all of us simpletons here?
I do not know whether she is happy and content, but she is happy being alone as of now. She is not at all concerned whether she is married or not. As long as they get desired satisfied from time to time, what is the necessity of a marriage then?
OK so you do not know if she is happy but you do know she's happy being alone as of now. OK, so this is not simple and absolute, I believe. Right.

Also, the underlined sentence was added in after some serious contemplation, I believe. Must be a very personal line of thought and belief!
But yes, in my case, not able to have sex in action is hindering my progress really from time to time because Mars and Sun has denied me that. Somehow they have spoiled that to me till date. My horo is so, what can I do? I have no hesitation in saying whatsoever. That is because of horo.
I believe, that's a simple and absolute truth perhaps. And not customised! Oh perhaps, Bipasha's also got similar problems! Perhaps it's her horoscope! Sad! I know, nobody can do a thing about it! Feel sad for people including Bipasha!
But at the same time, after some time, too much of vairagya also arises because of Saturn aspect on Moon, but again after sometime, the desire arises. So, I am not able to get completely out of that issue as of now. Afterall, I am a human being which nobody is understanding.
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Oh yes, human being! Like all of us here, like Bipasha as well, who we seem to have demonised?

I believe, the problem is we're too busy judging others to let others understand us!
But, then, I cannot have that with anybody in the street as well. I dont like such people. Because, I want be to in touch first, then liking, then in relationship and giving mind and then love and sex. Many people will not say such things publically as most of them like to hide as secrets or called as inner gown :)
Aren't you contradicting yourself here?

On one hand you say people love to hide their real self, they do not talk about their lives publicly, but then you also go on to pull down a woman you do not know, but only because she's been honest about her life, only because her life is an open book!

At least, respect her as an individual and just let her be!

It requires immense courage, to live life in the public sphere, while reading all kind of BS about you, seeing all sorts of people speculating about your life, without even bothering to know who you really are!
But, I should say all planets have denied me that. 6th house is house of desire or called as Kama. Planets will never ever show only one side of coin only, they will show both sides of coin.

Other than sufferings, sufferings and sufferings, I have not got anything till date. Everybody around me enjoying all comforts and pleasures because of me.
Dude, you're a SIMPLE man unlike others, you shouldn't be complaining. Period!

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Cause if I had kept all of the money I had already spent,
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If that sun and Mars has to get activated, I need get connection to that 12th house with that Venus being uplifted from 10th house. Unless I get that, how Moksha is possible?

For me, Atma Vidya stands out and that is what I call education. That also is because of my horo.
So now do you realise why I keep saying "thank you for a piece of gyaan"?
So, each persons wants and needs maybe different.
BINGO!!! There we go.

Now that definitely is a piece of gyaan and that definitely deserves a THANK YOU! Also, am sure that applies to Bipasha as well?

Ha...ha... What does the Rahu and Saturn in 5th house indicate and what does 5th house stands for then if Lagna is Mesh? If Lagna is Mesh, then it is just because of that 5th house darkness only plus Gulika Lord Venus in Lagnadipathi's own house of Scorpio , she is like this.
She's like what???

When it comes to you, "your unfulfilled desires are hindering your progress", when it comes to Bipasha, "she's like THIS"!!!
Furthermore, if lagna is Mesh, then in her second house is Gulika which is the house of character as well.
Also, even without having her correct birth details, you have with both "Pisces" and "Aries" lagna for Bipasha's horoscope justified why SHE's like "THIS"!

Seriously, I find this attitude, very disappointing. I'll suggest, please refrain from maligning people you do not even know! I didn't list name of people as examples in my OP to malign them. People have problems and people have their reasons too, so just leave them alone and just let people be. And above all, we've no authority to judge people!
"Now look here.
I did not say I was a millionaire.
But I said I have spent more money than a millionaire!
Cause if I had kept all of the money I had already spent,
I woulda been a millionaire a long time ago!"

- Going Down Slow (Howling Wolf)
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Karmatrix:

"but then you also go on to pull down a woman you do not know, but only because she's been honest about her life, only because her life is an open book!

At least, respect her as an individual and just let her be!"

How do you know that I do not know her? Meanwhile, what is the necessisty of telling me unwanted things about anybody here? I may not know BB personally, but only in an interview, she told she is being happy being alone and she is happy as a single. She has also told openly in public that she had affair with John and in fact they had sex for long time and such things, she openly told in public. Now, I am not at all a person who tells something without seeing something.

So, how are you telling, i do not know nothing about her and what do you think about I knowing anybody?

If you don't know anything about me, I would request you keep quite. You will never be able to understand me. I wont make any remarks unless I have clear evidence about anything.

If you cant accept what I told, you should just keep moving instead of telling that I do not know anybody.

Her D.O.B. is correct as January 7, 1979, but only her time is contradictory and since her time is contradictory, it is many astrologers opinion that she is Meena lagna and it was not my opinion, but only Swamykoolji was thinking it was Mesha lagna. So I am not even sure about her birth time, but her life in general is open in public and from her statements only, I have told about the same things here.

"It requires immense courage, to live life in the public sphere, while reading all kind of BS about you, seeing all sorts of people speculating about your life"

Whoever wants to speculate, let them speculate and whoever wants to tell anything about me under the sun let them tell. I encourage that a lot. Again, I do not care at all neither it is going to affect me in anyway.

"without even bothering to know who you really are"

Oh! so, you seems to have read me well.... :D :lol:

What makes you jump on things. If you see that something is not acceptable to you, you must just keep on walking ahead instead of contradicting with me.

I hope we can put an end to it here.

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Narayanan
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Dear Narayan,

Enough said. Give poor Bips a rest now. :mrgreen:
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swamykool wrote:Dear Narayan,

Enough said. Give poor Bips a rest now. :mrgreen:
SK, I agree and I totally understand this.

But just let me write one more time, and then I promise, I'll at least put this to rest.

This has been going on for sometime now, even beyond this thread. I have really been patient, but I think, now I need to put this to an end for once and for all.

I am really sorry, if I am disappointing you, but I really can't ignore this anymore.

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Karmatrix
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I did not say I was a millionaire.
But I said I have spent more money than a millionaire!
Cause if I had kept all of the money I had already spent,
I woulda been a millionaire a long time ago!"

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How do you know that I do not know her? Meanwhile, what is the necessisty of telling me unwanted things about anybody here? I may not know BB personally, but only in an interview, she told she is being happy being alone and she is happy as a single. She has also told openly in public that she had affair with John and in fact they had sex for long time and such things, she openly told in public. Now, I am not at all a person who tells something without seeing something.

So, how are you telling, i do not know nothing about her and what do you think about I knowing anybody? .
Yes, I am telling you that you do not know a thing about her! Isn't that really sad, that you're judging a person on the interviews / articles you have read, which are more often then not misquoted?
If you don't know anything about me, I would request you keep quite.
Oh dear! But in the same post you have told me,

Whoever wants to speculate, let them speculate and whoever wants to tell anything about me under the sun let them tell. I encourage that a lot. Again, I do not care at all neither it is going to affect me in anyway.

Also, does it hurt? But honestly, I haven’t even started. You have been going on and on and on about a person, yes you do not know. You have been saying all sort of demeaning things for her, there you do not even wish to keep quiet, but the moment someone tries to stop you, you ask them to keep quiet!

Also, please mind your language!
You will never be able to understand me
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Like you never have understood people you talk about so callously, so irresponsibly?
I wont make any remarks unless I have clear evidence about anything.
Clear evidence! Do you consider yourself some authority to judge people?

Forget Bipasha, you have been doing this to a lot of members on this forum itself.

You talk about Atma Vidya and jazz, do you think a person who’s really all about Atma Vidya would ever try to judge others, their lives, their actions? A few days back, you were casting aspersions on a lady who had posted her query on the forum. Saying all sorts of unnecessary things about her. And if you are so averse to a bunch of such lesser human beings, why don’t you just shift your focus where you know you have a lot to gain?
If you cant accept what I told, you should just keep moving instead of telling that I do not know anybody.
I have been really trying to be patient with you for some time now. But it’s a habit with you to bring in something totally uncalled for and disturb a usually normal thread.

And now it’s about time, you get what youhave been giving to others.
Her D.O.B. is correct as January 7, 1979, but only her time is contradictory and since her time is contradictory, it is many astrologers opinion that she is Meena lagna and it was not my opinion, but only Swamykoolji was thinking it was Mesha lagna. So I am not even sure about her birth time, but her life in general is open in public and from her statements only, I have told about the same things here.
Do you even understand what I have said?

I said, “ Without knowing her birth details, you have justified why B’s like “this” from whatever lagna one could come up with!”

Is that astrology or is that your prejudice at work?
"It requires immense courage, to live life in the public sphere, while reading all kind of BS about you, seeing all sorts of people speculating about your life"

Whoever wants to speculate, let them speculate and whoever wants to tell anything about me under the sun let them tell. I encourage that a lot. Again, I do not care at all neither it is going to affect me in anyway.
Oh dear! I can only kill myself over this! I can't even bother to explain this to you.

GO ON!
"without even bothering to know who you really are"

Oh! so, you seems to have read me well....
I am following suit, you see!
What makes you jump on things. If you see that something is not acceptable to you, you must just keep on walking ahead instead of contradicting with me.
Why if you can have opinions on others, why can’t I have one on a thread I started?
I hope we can put an end to it here.
You started something totally uncalled for, and now I’ll put an end to this!

Again a request, which I have already made once earlier on another thread I had started, if you need to discuss something which might not be totally relevant* to the issue at hand, then please start another thread with a topic which is relevant to everything that you need to express. Interested people, can and will always join you there.
"Now look here.
I did not say I was a millionaire.
But I said I have spent more money than a millionaire!
Cause if I had kept all of the money I had already spent,
I woulda been a millionaire a long time ago!"

- Going Down Slow (Howling Wolf)
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