SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

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SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by Haresh Kumar » 19 Oct 2015

SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

SATURN MD (MAJOR PERIOD) VENUS AD (MINOR PERIOD) AND
SATURN MD (MAJOR PERIOD) AND SUN AD (MINOR PERIOD).

Saturn and Venus are friends. In Venus ruled Lagnas, Taurus and Libra, Saturn is a single handed yogakaraka ruling as they are the 9th and 10th houses and the 4th and 5th houses
respectively. In Saturn ruled Lagnas, Capricorn and Aquarius, Venus again is a single handed yogakaraka, ruling as they do the 5th and 10th houses and the 4th and 9th houses respectively. (If one goes into the nitty gritty and takes into account badhaka lordship of Venus and Saturn with respect to Aquarius and Taurus Lagna, the rule still holds good).

Friends of course surprise each other and this is quite true of Saturn MD and Venus AD. In practice these periods have been known to give wild swings in fortune

Saturn MD and Sun AD, is often like a planetary full stop. Sudden events or career reversals, could mark the end of one phase and the beginning of another.

Saturn Dasa (Major) and Sun Antar Dasa (Sub period), comes 10 years after the start of Saturn Dasa (short by about 9/10 days) and is a good rule of thumb, to make snap shot predictions or to get an idea of the career trajectory of the person and to determine whether the trends are moving from light to darkness, or vice versa.

Saturn MD and Venus AD which comes just before Sat MD and Sun AD lasts for 3 years 2 months, and is known for ups and downs, sudden and inexplicable changes in fortune.

So if Saturn Maha Dasa period starts with a bang and moves smoothly (it takes about a year or two to pick up momentum) add 10 years to the start of Saturn MD Saturn AD and you will get to the start of Saturn MD Sun AD.

Now look back two or three years before that (Sat/Venus) and one year (the exact period being 11months and 12 days) after that (Sat/Sun) and look out for transits and you will begin to get clarity as a story unfolds.

Sun and Saturn are of course enemies. Saturn opposing Sun generally results in 'vaulting' ambition' and a subsequent fall. It takes one to the heights and pulls him down. Saturn when opposing Sun, is also in retrograde motion increasing its propensity for evil. Saturn also if retrograde, though not opposing the Sun, (as it is generally when in the fifth (partly), sixth seventh, eighth, and ninth (partly) houses from the Sun) also has a propensity for evil if unchecked by the benign influence of Jupiter.

Saturn Sun opposition, aspect or conjunction also indicates problems with the father either due to incompatibility, circumstance or ill fate. Alternately it could result in problems or tragedy with the child. The persons rise could also start after the death of his/her father.

To know how these periods pan out and how they will yield results we should follow the footsteps of the masters and the ancients.

There are astrologers of the stature of Dr. B.V. Raman and Shri K.N. Rao who not only had/have a thorough grounding in classical astrological literature, but have also interacted with the best and the brightest in the field, probably seen thousands upon thousands of horoscopes, pass through their hands, besides having an open mind with respect to various Ayanamsas
methods and approaches. After all it is only a small mind which is rigid.

It is therefore better to imbibe what the ancients and modern masters, have laid down, and are trying to tell us through their writings, rather than to go treasure hunting in divisional charts, just to justify one Ayanamsa or one rigid line of thought, (though of course there are some experienced astrologers even in this forum who make brilliant use of the divisional charts). If we do that, we lose sight of what the masters and ancients are trying to tell us, and it could end up setting up opaque barricades in our thought process, which will lead to faulty predictions in the future.

The Brihat Parashara Hora-Shastra states the following with respect to Saturn MD
Venus AD.

Chapter 57

24-27 - If Venus is in kendra (angle) trikona (trine) or in labha (11) associated with or receiving a drishti (aspect) from benefics, effects like, marriage, birth of son, gain of financial wealth, sound health, acquisition of kingdom etc materialise.

(With this is interpolated the transits of Saturn and Jupiter)

If during the Antar Dasa (sub-period) of Venus, Guru is favourable in transit there will be
dawn of fortune and growth of prosperity.

If Saturn is favourable in transit there will be Raja Yoga and accomplishment of Yoga rites.

28-29. If Venus is in his debilitation Rasi ,combust ,or in Ari (6th), Randhra (8th), or Vyaya (12th) then distress to wife, loss of position, mental agony, quarrels with close relations etc. will be the results,

We then have the results of the AD lord's (Venus) position, from the MD lord (Saturn)

30-31 1/2. if Venus is in Dharma (9th), Labha (11th), or Kendra (1,4,7 and 10) from the lord of the Dasa (Saturn) fulfillment of ambitions by the beneficence of the king, charities, performance of religious rites, creation of interest in the study of Shastras, composition of poems, interest in Vedanta etc. materialise.

32-34. if Venus is in the 6th, 8th, or 12th from the lord of the Dasha (Saturn)
There will be eye trouble, fevers, loss of good conduct .......heart disease, antagonism towards relations with the officials of government and brothers.

35-36. if Venus is Dhana (2nd), or Yuvati 's (7th) lord...there will be physical distress.

And results of Saturn/Sun.

37-38 1/2. if the Sun is in his exaltation, in his own Rasi or associated with dharma's (9th) lord, or in a kendra, or trikona, and associated with, or receiving a drishti from benefics,
effects, like good relations with one's employer, well-being in the family,
happiness from children, are indicated in the Antar Dasha of Sun in the Dasa of Saturn.

39-41. if the Sun is in Randhra (8th), or Vyaya (12th) or, if Sun is in the 8th, or 12th from the lord of the Dasa, there will be, heart disease, defamation, loss of position,
mental agony, separation from close relatives, obstacles in industrial ventures, fears etc.

42. If the Sun is dhana's (2nd), or Yuvati 's (7th) lord there will be physical distress.


Practical examples of course drive the point home, and with the passage of time, our reverence for the astrological classics and their interpretation by masters, only increases. Some examples are as under:-



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Amitabh Bachchan was born on October 11 1942 at 16.00 hrs (War Time) (Standard Time to be taken as 6.30) at Allahabad 25N57 81.50 IST h6.30e (War Time).

Amitabh has Aquarius rising Saturn is placed in an angle in a friendly sign and is in retrograde motion. The Sun is the Atmakaraka is conjoined with the Amatyakara Mercury in the eighth house. Mercury is exalted in the eighth house in Virgo and Venus has obtained neechabhanga. Jupiter is exalted in the sixth house from Lagna and in the tenth from Moon and is Vargottama. The Moon is in the ninth house. In the Navamsa Jupiter is exalted Sun and Venus are in their own house. Venus is in the tenth from Karakamsa.

Saturn Dasa in Amitabh's horoscope started around 5th Nov 1971. He had made an entry into the film industry in 1969 with the film 'Saat Hindustani' in 1969, Jupiter
MD and Rahu AD was a period of struggle and the one film worth mention in this period was 'Anand' in which he played a supporting role to Rajesh Khanna. (another similiar horoscope with a rise after Sat MD and Sat AD is that of Satyajit Ray. Like Amitabh he had the Moon in badhakasthana in the constellation of Rahu).


His career however took off in 1973 in Sat MD Sat AD, with the release of the film 'Zanjeer' followed in quick succession by 'Deewar' and 'Sholay' all blockbusters. There were many other films between 1973 and 1982 and this period all within Saturn MD was one when he held sway over the film industry till the advent of Saturn MD Sun AD.

The Sun besides being the Atmakaraka in his horoscope, is placed in 24 degrees in Virgo which happens to be the Mrityu Bhaga a very inauspicious degree.

Saturn MD Sun AD operated between roughly 27.10.1981 (ten years from the start of Saturn MD on 5.11.1971 but short by 9 days ) and 8.10.1982.

Sun as it can be seen is conjunct Mars, the eighth lord Mercury, Venus all placed in the eighth house from Lagna.

BPHS Chapter 57 verse 39-41(relating to Saturn MD and Sun AD) states that if Sun is in Randhra (8th) or Vyaya (12th) there will be loss of position, mental agony, obstacles in ventures, fears etc.

Also applicable is :-

42. There will be physical distress, if Sūrya is Dhan’s, (2nd) or Yuvati’s Lord (7th).

Here the Sun is the lord of the Yuvati or the 7th house a deadly maraka.

On 26th July 1982 while shooting for the film 'Coolie' he suffered a near fatal intestinal injury
in a fight sequence with his co actor Puneet Issar, resulting in splenic rupture and internal bleeding. He was clinically dead for some time and showed no sign of consciousness.

On 26th July 1982 Saturn and Moon were conjoined in Virgo and both were transiting his eighth house. Transit Saturn at 23 degrees just over his natal Sun (placed at 24 degrees) and natal Mars (at 22 degrees), Mercury (at 23 degrees) and Venus. Moon at 12 noon was at 21 degrees Virgo.

Transit Saturn's transit over natal Mars or aspecting natal Mars is very very dangerous if the directional influences (Dasa Bhukti) influences are bad. Here it was not only transiting over
Mars but also natal Sun AD lord placed in Mrityu Bhaga and Mercury the 8th lord.

Both planets were in the 12th from his natal Moon. Mars by transit was in the orb of conjunction with Saturn, but separating in aspect (one of the elements which may have accounted for his recovery) had just entered Libra over his natal Moon.

He had been declared clinically dead and was in an unconscious state. There was no sign of life till August 2nd when in a last ditch effort the doctors injected adrenaline straight into his heart, and his body showed signs of life. This is considered his second 'birthday'. By this date
Mars has moved further away from the eighth house. The Moon had moved away from the
troubled area.

The sub sub periods are Sat/Sun/Kethu from 22.7.82 to 11.8.82 and Venus from 12.8.82 to till
8.10.82. These sub sub periods require further analysis.

This horoscope was discussed by Mr. K.N.Rao (who was a family friend of the Bachchans,)
in the ''The Astrological Magazine' edited by B.V. Raman. He had in fact predicted some type of accident, the recovery and the date of his discharge on the basis of the horoscope.

The most fruitful period in his career can be
taken to be from 1973 to 1982/3.

This marked a critical threshold in his life. He had other health problems including ailments
like ' myastenia gravis' an auto immune neuro muscular disease, which more or less put paid to his career.

Saturn MD Venus AD in his horoscope held sway between August1978 and October 1981. During this period he made a couple of forgettable movies including 'Shaan' which was made by the makers of 'Sholay', and flopped. There were some health and personal problems.

There were other films after 1983 but few and far between and his foray into politics though initially rewarding proved to be costly and troublesome . The same was with his business venture.

He came back into the reckoning when transit Saturn had moved back into Taurus and Gemini
between 2001 and 2004 the positions transited between 1971 and 1973 his first innings. The relevant periods were Mercury MD Rahu AD between May 2000 and Nov 2002, which offered opportunities but was a problematic phase. It was after Mercury MD Jupt AD ( between Nov 2002 and Feb 2005) that his career returned to a fine fettle and can be called his second inning, though his father who had been suffering ill health had expired on Jan 2003.

Kethu MD Rahu AD was between Oct 2010 and Oct 2011.

He is currently having Venus MD Venus AD which started in Nov 2014 and lasts till Mar 2018.
Is the pattern familiar?

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 25 Oct 2015

To understand the phenomenon of Saturn MD Venus AD we have to study the horoscopes
of Indira Gandhi, Ramankrishna Hegde, Tony Blair and Richard Nixon among many others who rose to power or gained total dominance, in Saturn MD and Saturn AD and who suffered reverses in Saturn MD Venus AD.

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Post by girla123 » 10 Nov 2015

Hi Hareesh,
Very good post.
In your post you have said that if the SA MD starts with a bang in SA-SA its best periods could last till SA-SU and thereafter reversals are possibly expected.
So with the above can we term the period of SA-SA to SA-SU as 1st half of SA Mahadasha and rest of the Period as 2nd half.
Also if the results are vice versa...meaning if the periods from SA-SA to SA-SU have been bad then is there are possibility of the reversal of fortunes in the remainder phase of SA dasha. Can that be applied or is it so that SA-SA to SA-SU are generally the good half and rest half is always bad.

Please clarify my doubts as I m running a SA dasha too and currently just started the SA-MA period.

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Post by sg07 » 13 Nov 2015

Hi,
My husband would be starting much talked about Sat-Venus beginning of next year.What can he expect during that sub period..would it be good or bad?
DOB:15/5/74
Time:00:54
Place:Meerut(UP)
So far Saturn had been with lots of ups and down for him.

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 15 Nov 2015

Your husband has Venus exalted in the third.

Venus is yogakaraka from both the Lagna and Chandra Lagna and is exalted in the third house, being lord of the fifth and tenth. Venus is placed in the tenth from Saturn (Lagna lord) which tallies with Chapter 57 Verse 30/31 of BPHS so should prove largely beneficial.

The tenth fifth and third houses should figure which is profession, travel, creative endeavour, and children.

The run up to 2019 should be very important and beneficial as he could consolidate gains he made before/ around 2009. These gains will be enhanced exponentially after 2022/23.

There could be a negative impact but it should be much later around 2019 to mid 2020 towards the close of Sat/Ven ( and that time it will coincide with transit Saturn's (in Sagittarius) aspect to natal Saturn which is the MD lord as well as natal Mars and when it moves into the early degrees of Capricorn after early 2020) and in Sat/Sun. (Saturn and Sun are placed in 2/12 from each other so problems could arise at that time.).

Transit Saturn is moving away from both Sun and Moon both of which are placed in early degrees of Taurus and Aquarius, in your husbands chart which must have given problems in the current Kethu AD which is debilitated and is aspected by transit Saturn. So there should be relief. There will be a lot of benefits. This is more so when Jupiter aspects AD lord Venus by transit next year.

The negative period will be short to medium and there will be a bounce back for the family.. Another upward curve is indicated roughly from mid 2022/23 to 2034 a very good period. The transit of Saturn over your husbands birth nakshatra and ahead of it could mark the end of the negative phase and beginning of a very positive one.


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I was checking your husbands chart and some positive major change was indicated in his wife's chart, and some health issues and I had to cross check.

I checked some of your past posts. Saturn MD is generally good for Shravan. (Like Angela Merkel who came into prominence in her second Sade Sathi after the reunification during Jupt/Rahu and Sat/Sat). Jupiter Dasa is generally bad for this nakshatra.

Placement wise Jupiter in the ninth for Aries is an A1 placement. Jupiter in the ninth gives God's grace and good luck. You have a strong Jupiter and Mercury hence an interest and budding proficiency in astrology and an innate faith in God. Ninth lord in the ninth from both the Ascendant and the Moon. So travel will continue to be extensive.


In brief there are very marked upward trends in the near future. With respect to your health some type of feedback is a necessary.

You have had a harrowing time as far as health is concerned and if I can be of help just email the birth dates again and a rough timeline of the events so I can try to get a coherent picture.

Wishing you the best.

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Post by sg07 » 15 Nov 2015

Dear Haresh,
Thanks a lot for such a detailed analysis.My husband was doing really well in US till end of May 2009..and on !st june 2009 everything changed suddenly and his professional life took a nose dive...his Saturn MD started at the same time as well.We had to move back to India due to visa issues in 2011 and we again moved to UK in sep 2011.He had serious problems in all areas till July 2012..and afterwards things started to improve.He was doing very well till Feb 2015 in UK and we have moved to US in April and things are not great for him professionally as well as financially right now.We applied for green card in 2010 and still waiting for that.

My birth details:
DOB:19/9/1972
Time:20:19
Place:Delhi
Since mu Jupiter MD started .I'm having health issues.I'll be starting Jup-Rahu next week..lets see what happens..
I really appreciate your time and help.
rgds
SG

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 16 Nov 2015

A turning point is clearly visible. When Saturn MD Sat AD is bad there could be slight relief in Sat MD Merc AD which happened in you husbands case (in 2012) and a major change for the better is in Sat MD Venus AD which is due next year.


When Sat MD Sat AD is bad Sat MD Venus AD is a turning point for the better, and vice versa. This is a rule of thumb which invariably holds good.

Saturn MD Sat AD to Sat MD Venus AD lasts about 6 yrs 9 mts 21 days and when it is bad it can really be bad!


It can be bad and especially so at both ends, the beginning and the end. In the opening it hits you like an unexpected tsunami and at the tail end you lose all hope

When Jupiter is bad the trends tend to change in Jupt/Rahu ( for the better) and a major positive trends emerges in Sat/Sat.

In this connection, Sat AD Venus AD Sun AD and Moon AD in Jupt MD ( fine tuning required ) can be vicious and the peculiarity is that even siblings suffer. Many lose their fathers and mothers in this phase especially in Sun and Moon AD.

So clearly there is a change for the better for your husband you and your family all trends moving in tandem and in sync. In your case Jupt Rahu in Nov 2015 and in your husbands case in March 2016. Jupiter by transit moves to Virgo next year which is the ninth from your Janma Rasi and conjoins Sun and Mercury in the sixth house of health giving much needed relief.
It will be aspecting your husbands AD lord exalted Venus which rules the tenth (profession)
and fifth (children) in his chart. It will be aspecting his fifth house (children) and transiting your fifth (children) and sixth (health) lords.

This phase should last about 4/5 years and then a powerful phase should commence in 2023/2024 especially after Jupiter moves into Taurus. Clearly the worst is behind you and horizons will open up like they did when you were in your late teens and early twenties that were beyond your imagination. This can be called your second innings.

Of course I have not examined the health angle but in these type of phases, sudden recoveries take place, or individuals respond to medication or new lines of treatment put an end to the illness.

Take care of your health and pray to God. Adopt a positive attitude. Positive thinking is all pervasive in its influence.

Wishing you and your family the very best.

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Post by sg07 » 16 Nov 2015

Dear Haresh,
Thanks for my chart analysis.Its a relief to know that my health can improve because since my Jup-Ven..I've been going through hell as far as health is concerned.I'm in Jup-Mars and there's no organ in my body which is not affected.last weekend only ..I woke up in the morning to realise that my right side was numb from feet to head and I was extremely dizzy.It got better after some time though.What I've noticed is that all the organs in my right side are more affected than my left one.

Haresh Kumar wrote:
It can be bad and especially so at both ends, the beginning and the end. In the opening it hits you like an unexpected tsunami and at the tail end you lose all hope

It was absolutely true in my husband's case.He is very hard working and his work is also appreciated but when it comes for rewards or fruits for his hard work..things start behaving otherwise.
We are really worried for our children's future because of constant moving from one place to another.As you said that his 5th house will be affected as well..will it bring better life for our kids too?


In, Sat AD Venus AD Sun AD and Moon AD in Jupt MD ( fine tuning required ) can be vicious and the peculiarity is that even siblings suffer. Many lose their fathers and mothers in this phase especially in Sun and Moon AD.

This is true as well because I've seen all kind of setbacks from health to money loss(burgalry )during this time.My sibling's life is suffering as well and my parent's health is bad too especially my mother's.




This phase should last about 4/5 years and then a powerful phase should commence in 2023/2024 especially after Jupiter moves into Taurus. Clearly the worst is behind you and horizons will open up like they did when you were in your late teens and early twenties that were beyond your imagination. This can be called your second innings.
Is it for my husband's chart and is there a chance for settlement in a foreign country also?
Dear Haresh,

Thanks a lot for looking in our charts and for wishes.
rgds
SG

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 19 Nov 2015

Hi,

I hope the trends improve in your life. They certainly should by next year, when Jupiter moves in the ninth from your Moon over your natal Sun and Merc and when your husband's Sat/Venus starts.

Moreover Jupiter/Rahu in similiar cases heralds a change as you can see in the case with Amitabh B. in the example given as also with Merkel (who has the same nakshatra as you)and pushes you forward into Sat/Sat which is a sea change for the better. Other cases include Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, who was born with Moon Dasa like you and became the President of France in May 1974 in Sat/Sat.

Jupt/Rahu in such cases brings positive changes, but more than that it gives you a concrete goal which you can work towards. It puts you in touch with people who will be working towards the same or similar goals. It signals a change in a positive direction. In your case Jupiter and Rahu are together. There is a nice prediction on this board about a prominent person in whose horoscope Rahu & Jupiter are together ,and the period is Rahu/Jupt, a prediction about which only one channel CNN IBN got right initially!

In reply to your query it has to bring a better life for your children.

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Post by sg07 » 20 Nov 2015

Dear Haresh,
Thanks a lot for such positive words..I've been very ambitious all my life and I just wish your prediction come true and make my life much better in future.
Again..thanks for taking time to analyse both the horoscopes.I really appreciate that.
rgds
SG

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Post by Hanish » 21 Nov 2015

Dear Haresh,

Its rather interesting to know how dasha's interplay with each other.

Thanks
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Post by Haresh Kumar » 22 Nov 2015

Hi,

You have the Moon in Pushya nakshatra with Venus is in the third from Lagna and in the fourth from the Moon in its own house/Mooltrikona. Venus is aspected by Jupiter in a close orb.

Venus Dasa will obviously be a turning point and the dominant influences will be that of the third house and the tenth house.

With Pushya nakshatra, Kethu Dasa has generally tended to be problematic and a major change for the better in Venus Dasa. The rise takes some time and gains traction after two or three years.

I can give two examples, though there are very many.

One is the Indian Independence Chart (15.8.1947 at 0.00 hrs)
which has Taurus rising with Venus in the third house from Lagna and in the Chandra Lagna. Venus Dasa started in Sept 1989, however the results took about two years to really register.

Actually the bull market started on 8th February 1990 and by 22nd April 1992 the stock market had gained as much as 578% in value. There is general consensus that this occurred on account of major and far reaching policy decisions taken in the early 1990's including the budgets of mid 1991 and 1992 by Dr. Manmohan Singh the then Finance Minister acting in tandem with Narsimha Rao the then Prime Minister. The major period of Venus thus lasting roughly upto 2009 was thus a very good period and a major and positive turning point , the Sensex having risen from 659 on 8th Feb 1990 to 20873 on 8th January 2008.

The third house ruling IT, communication, and travel is very prominent in the chart and if you see the companies that took a quantum leap in this phase they included Infosys, Wipro, TCS, Tata Motors, Hero Honda, M&M, HCL, Bharti, Idea, Tata Power etc. Of course the communication and IT revolution brought mobile phones and the internet within the reach of the common man. Again as lord of the sixth house Venus, labour was predominant with back office and service activities rather than shop floor or manufacture being prominent, which will probably gain dominance in the future under different Dasa influences.

Another case is that of the actor Sanjeev Kumar ( who was also born in Pusya Nakshatra) with Capricorn rising with Venus placed in the fifth in its own house also being lord of the tenth. Venus started in mid 1965 and within 2 or 3 years he was acting in top bracket Hindi films and the major period of Venus lasting upto 1985 (he died on 6th Nov 1985) was a very progressive and prosperous period putting him at the very top. His first film 'Nishan' was in 1965 an unknown film now but followed by artistic triumphs like 'Koshish' and 'Aandhi' and blockbusters like 'Sholay' and 'Trishul' and so many other movies

Of course he had a very powerful horoscope with an exchange between Jupiter and Saturn and Venus, Mercury and Moon (in the fifth, sixth and seventh house, a powerful Lagna Adi Yoga) in their own houses (in your horoscope these three planets are in their own houses). He also had Gajkesari, Chandra Mangal , Lakshmi Yoga and Raja Yoga's. Here the fifth (creative activities) and tenth (prominent) houses are prominent.

So obviously the rise will come slowly but surely, and these powerful periods can only be appreciated in hindsight.

I have seen very many cases of Pushya nakshatra horoscopes and in the vast majority of the cases the rise in Venus Dasa is very very pronounced. Though a lot of activities take place in Kethu Dasa the fruits are usually obtained in the Dasa of Venus. Kethu Mahadasa is usually bad. The downtrend usually comes after Merc/Sat. These are of course general observations but they hold good in many cases. Fine tuning and feedback is however very important as astrological predictions like medical diagnosis requires right input.

In other cases Venus well placed gives results. Steve Jobs had Leo Lagna and his Venus Dasa coincided with the founding of Apple and its early periods of success.

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Post by Hanish » 22 Nov 2015

Dear Haresh,

Thanks very much for your reply I really appreciate your time and effort. I am amazed at your command on Dasha's subjects, and from your examples its obvious how Venus dasha has changed lives.
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Post by manya » 22 Nov 2015

Hello Haresh ji,
Request you to please look into my chart. my ketu md is ending in 2 months time ..how will bd my venus md?
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Post by Haresh Kumar » 23 Nov 2015

Hi Manya,

Your Kethu is debilitated and transit Saturn is aspecting natal Kethu. So the change of Dasa from Kethu to Venus will be beneficial and important.

Venus is near Lagna degree in Leo. Your Lagna is Vargottama. In Dasamsa, Venus is also in Lagna, as lord of the tenth. Venus is lord of the tenth in both Rasi and Dasamsa. In Dasamsa it is a Yogakaraka and placed in the Lagna. Your twelfth lord is in the eighth house in Uttarabhadrapada (your Janma Nakshatra) (like Steve Jobs) so Venus Dasa will be good. You can expect a lot of relief. Moreover in January when Venus Dasa starts, Jupiter by transit will be over your natal Venus. Saturn by transit will have left Anuradha which is another plus point being your Janma Tara.

Jupiter is now transiting the sixth from your Moon which in very very many cases, indicates a major change from one period (usually bad) to another (usually good). So that is another plus point.

You have the fifth and ninth lords in the ninth house in your natal chart so important things will happen.

If you want to know anything specific just ask me with some background information.

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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by Haresh Kumar » 23 Nov 2015

Hi Hanish,

With respect to your further queries and observations:

About the few very good years you had you can compare it with the Indian Independence Chart. There was euphoria in 1985/86 but the the period up to 1991/92 was tough. Even at that time the foreign exchange reserves had fallen dangerously low. But the built in potential was vast and untapped.

As far as travel is concerned , travel indicators are pronounced. The houses for travel are 3rd, 9th and 12th and to a certain extent the 7th. Your third and twelfth lords are in their own houses. The ninth lord is exalted and aspecting the twelfth a Chandra Mangal Yoga involving travel. Moreover in Navamsa Jupiter, Venus and Sun are in the ninth and Saturn and Moon in the third. Venus in the ninth in the Navamsa and third in the Rasi. Again in the Dasamsa Venus is tenth lord is in the own house. Ninth lord in the second. The third lord in the ninth. Travel is strong. Mercury the travel planet is in Dhan Sthan or the second. Travel can even be a source of income. However you should keep your finances above board. Most of the planets are strong, so avoid short cuts. Adopt a principled approach. You have a strong Jupiter, use it.

The start may take time to gain traction (maybe two years) but you will be on the track. So be determined and patient.

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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by Hanish » 23 Nov 2015

Dear Haresh,

Thanks very much for your time and effort. You've been really helpful. I shall keep following your posts they are very informative n practical.

Thanks again
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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by manya » 09 Dec 2015

Dear Haresh ji,
Thank you so much for looking into my chart. Thanks for your efforts and time.
My worry is if Venus Md will be good for finances, as both my 2nd and 11th lord are in 12 the house?
Another thing I wanted to understand is ...what dies it mean if Jupiter is in Aquarius? I mean what kind of results will it give, if it is in Aquarius for Scorpio lagna.
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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by Haresh Kumar » 10 Dec 2015

Hi,


Regarding the lord of the 2nd and the 11th in the 12th house the chart as a whole should be seen.

In your chart in the Rasi and Dasamsa the tenth lord Venus is in Lagna and in both charts 11th lord is in the twelfth. So it is the 11th lord in the 12th combination.

When the lord of the eleventh is in the twelfth house there is benefit and/or income from foreign sources. This is an NRI /travel - foriegn business combination. This is especially so if the ninth or tenth lord in in the Lagna in a Kendra or in the 11th. Unlike what you fear you may earn a lot of money.

There are some examples which come to mind. One is that of Mahatma Gandhi who was a very successful lawyer in South Africa from 1893 to 1914, and whose main career began there. Gandhi had Venus in Lagna, and the eleventh lord Sun in the twelfth house. His tenth lord is in the 10th or 11th depending on the Ayanamsa.

The second case is that of Dhirubhai Ambani who initially worked in Yemen in A. Besse & Co, a large transcontinental trading firm and was there from the early fifties to 1958. Dhirubhai had 11th lord Venus in the 12th. He had ninth lord Sun in Lagna.

Both had powerful horoscopes. In both cases their reputations had a global reach and foreign connections and travel continued even after they returned to India. Usually with these combinations brothers (11th lord being elder brother)are connected with the travel. Dhirubhais elder brother was working in Aden before he went there. Gandhi' s elder brother helped him to study in England and later to go to Africa.

You also have Mars (9th lord) in the 9th with Jupiter (5th lord) You have three planets in the 12th house. The 3rd and 10th lord is in Lagna. Travel related professions, travel in general and foreign connections will prove very fruitful.

For proper details specific input and questions from you is important.

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As your Lagna is Vargottama with Venus in Lagna in D1 and D10 Venus Dasa will be very good. Moreover Venus is sixth from Moon in Pisces (lord of 3rd and 8th) is good again. Again co-borns and siblings or close relatives will play an important part and money could come suddenly.

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Regarding Jupiter in the fourth for Scorpio Lagna it is good for property and education but the full birth details and input is required.


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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by manya » 11 Dec 2015

Dear Haresh ji,
Thank you so much for your reply. Really appreciate ur efforts.
Yes I was overseas for sometime. Income came from abroad only. Worked in IT for few years, but left job in Ketu md due to my son's illness. Not working properly since then. Hardly any income.
Regarding Jup in Aquarius, this is the chart
25 April 2010, new Delhi, 09:34 pm
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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by Haresh Kumar » 13 Dec 2015

Hi,

I am assuming the chart that you have sent me is that of your son. The chart moves in sync with yours. The child is born in Uttaraphalguni a (M.S. Dhoni/Rajesh Khanna) very good nakshatra. I have discussed it in one of my posts. The Lagna is Vargottama. Jupiter is the Atmakaraka and Saturn is conjunct the Moon. These are combinations for spirituality of a high order. Moon Dasa is usually bad for such cases and it started on April 2013. Saturn was transit in Libra from May 2012 to Nov 2014 which is the eighth from your natal Moon and aspecting your natal Sun and other planets in your twelfth house and may have been really bad. You had said earlier in one of your posts to me that Kethu/Venus was good. Venus MD therefore will be very good.

In the chart of your son, Sun, Jupiter and Venus are well placed and so is Mars in the ninth house. Mars has obtained neechabhanga. (Phaladeepika Chapter VII) (the planet who gets exalted in the sign the debilitated planets is, is in a kendra from the Ascendant or Moon) is placed in a friendly house and its depositer is placed in the eleventh house. Mars Dasa starting from April 2023 will be very good you can rest assured about it, I have too many horoscopes like this. The results will be dramatic and very surprising and surpassing your expectations. Mars starting right upto Jupt/Sat will be very good. That covers nearly 27/28 years. The good phase will start a bit earlier in a small way around Feb 2021.

Your Venus will start giving results but you should be cautious in the period around July 2017 and 2019. Don't get depressed, very very good times are ahead. Look ahead. Once you get over a minor planetary roadblock you will move very rapidly. Your son will do very well, there will be a radical change for the better. Don't judge the future by the past. It is better to get over the worst in the early stages of life, mature and reap the rewards later. In your son's case it is just a bad Dasa. Mars Dasa will be opposite of Moon Dasa it will be a starting point that will propel him upwards.

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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by manya » 13 Dec 2015

Dear Haresh ji,

To tell you the truth, the way you have formed your reply to me, it has filled my eyes with tears.

Yes the chart is my son's chart. He was severely ill during his Sun MD (that was my Ketu-Rahu, and thats when i had left my job), recovered by the time Moon MD started, doing good so far in terms of studies, the only thing which lacks is his dads support in terms of understanding and time. His dads lack of time I do not worry, understanding yes. But thats ok.

I agree my son's concentration is not that great as we both have, i mean his parents. But we have figured out a way for that as well. Apart from that, he has had been a highly energetic and matured child as per his age.

Few days back, I read somewhere, in the words of wisdom of one spiritual Guru, that there is never as such thing as loss. The person either grows outwardly or the person grows inwardly. The entire Ketu MD forced me to look inward. To be in silence and grow. Ketu MD lessons were harsh to digest, but God had been kind enough to provide me courage beforehand to sail through.

I am really grateful that you have taken time to look into our charts. Thanks again.

And i appreciate your learning and knowledge in this field. I try to read all the posts that you write and am amazed by the striking observations that you make and have mentioned in your write-ups.
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Re: SATURN MD VENUS AD AND SATURN MD SUN AD

Post by npl » 13 Dec 2015

Hello Haresh Ji,

I would really appreciate if you could look at my chart and tell me about how would be my Venus Mahadasha as it started from April 2015 but I didn't really see any changes in my life, infact I've been feeling very lonely and isolated. I've also mailed you but I guess you don't check your mails very often so messaging you here.

My Ketu Dasha had ups & downs. When I begin Ketu Dasha in 2008, I wasn't really mature so it was all average but 1.5 years before ending of Ketu Dasha it was a hell type of experience as there was loss everywhere, in my personal life as well as my family members also suffered.

I'm really hoping to see my Venus Mahadasha giving results which I want in terms of Career, Finances, Relationship and the most important Foreign Settlement. Would really appreciate if you could give an analysis on my Venus Mahadasha.

Birth Details
Date- 28th April 1994
Time- 13:01 PM
Place- Rajkot, Gujarat, India.

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