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PLANETS AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY

Post by Haresh Kumar » 22 Sep 2015

PLANETS AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY


Accused of cheating on emission standards Volkswagen saw a massive sell off of its stock on Monday wiping out 1.6 billion of its market value. VW and its upscale Audi cars have been ordered to recall nearly 500,000 diesel cars. The move has an impact on other auto manufacturers and has impacted stock markets in Europe which has had an impact on the Indian stock market. The trends has domino effect going right down to suppliers, banks and
even private financiers.

The idea of a peoples car it is said originated in Germany as far back as 1904, before Fords
legendary Model T went into production. In 1925 a Hungarian technology student named Bela Barenyi submitted a chassis design for the car, and is credited with having conceived the basic design.


The project was put together by the legendary Austrian automotive engineer, Ferdinand Porche, a designer for high end vehicles and race cars who had for years been trying for years to get manufacturers to get interested in small cars for the family.

The government of Germany then under the leadership of Adolf Hitler, the National Socialist (Nazi Party) formed a state owned automobile company, known as Gesellschaft zur Vorbereitung des Deutchen Volkswagen mbH. Later on it was nicknamed 'Volkswagenwerk 'or the peoples car.

After the end of the Second World War the Allies would make Volkswagen the focus of the attempts to resuscitate the German auto industry and it became the icon of post war West German regeneration.

Volkswagen was founded on May 28th 1937.

As it can be seen transit Saturn opposes the Sun and it is the first stage of Sade Sati with the Moon being in Dhanus Rasi. Saturn opposes sidereal Sun in Taurus (in Tropical Astrology the Sun sign is Gemini and Saturn has just moved into Sagittarius).

Among those impacted by it are XI Jinping of China, Donald Trump etc.

Jagmohan Dalmia (May 30 1940) the first person of a third world country to hold the post of the ICC chief, also died under the impact of Saturn on his natal Sun.

The Dasa period is the MD of Saturn.

Automotive cycles are a subject of perennial fascination and the horoscopes of its legendary founders and maverick designers and engineers shed a lot of light on this industry.



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Post by Haresh Kumar » 24 Sep 2015

Venus is known as the Vahanakaraka or the ruler of conveyances, and the fourth house Vahanasthana in the horoscope represents vehicles or carriages. The lord of the fourth house in the natural zodiac (Cancer) is the Moon and thus these planets and houses play an important part and the Dasa periods of the planets and the houses can give us an indication of acquisition or access to vehicles.

The third, seventh, ninth and twelfth house are related to travel and they form
an important part in the combination.

The planet Mars is related to engineering and Saturn to labour and these planets and the
houses over which they rule play an important part in the mix.

There are conflicting times related to the horoscope of Henry Ford. The time of roughly 1.55 pm (LMT) is given as a rectified version in the Astro Data Bank of the Astrodienst site and appears to be quite accurate.

Dr. B.V. Raman in his book 'Notable Horoscopes' gives the
time as 2.09 pm. This appears to be the right time with Sidereal Scorpio rising.

Henry Ford was born on 30th July 1863 at about 2.00 pm (LMT) at Greenfield Michigan (42N18 83W13). Scorpio rises with the Moon in the third house in the nakshatra of Shravan ruled by the Moon. The Sun is placed in the ninth house. There is a 9/10 Rajayoga centering on the 3rd and 9th houses relating to travel. Venus is placed with Jupiter and Saturn in the eleventh house. Lagna lord Mars is placed in the tenth house and aspects the Lagna. The Lagna is ruled by Mars and aspected by both Saturn and Mars, planets related to engineering and labour. The lord of the second Jupiter Vargottama is in the eleventh with Venus the Vahankaraka and the lord of the fourth (Vahanastana) Saturn. The lord of the eleventh Mercury is in the ninth forming Budha Aditya Yoga in the ninth house of travel.

The eleventh house Virgo is the Karakamsa Jupiter being the Atmakaraka. The Moon and Saturn aspect the Karakamsa and Jupiter.

Saturn Mahadasa ( starting roughly in December 1907) coincided with the production of the Model T and the dynamic changes brought about by Henry Ford in the automotive and industrial world.

In the horoscope of Rahul Bajaj (Bajaj Auto) (June 10 1938 4.46.41 am IST 22N30 88E30) Taurus ruled by Venus rises with the Moon in Visaka nakshatra in Libra (Thula Rasi) also ruled by Venus. Sun Mercury form a Rajayoga in the Lagna. Venus the Lagna lord is in the second house of income (in Henry Ford it is in the 11th house) and is in exchange with the second lord Mercury which is placed in the Lagna.
The ninth and tenth lord Saturn is placed in the eleventh in exchange with Jupiter the eleventh lord placed in the tenth. Saturn and Mars both aspect the fourth. The Sun Jupiter Saturn and Venus are placed in their own houses in the Navamsa. Venus is the Atmakaraka is in Taurus in the Navamsa, placed in the tenth house from Navamsa Lagna.

In the horoscope Ratan Tata (Tata Motors) (28th December 1937 6.30 am 18N58 72E50 Mumbai) the Moon like Rahu Bajaj is in Thula Rasi (ruled by Venus) in the same Visaka Nakshatra. Sagittarius rises which gives a penchant for travel and flying. Like Rahul
Bajaj he has Sun Mercury in Lagna forming a 9/10 Rajayoga (Rahul Bajaj has a 4/5 Rajayoga)
and Venus is in Lagna. There is an exchange between the second lord Saturn placed in the fourth and the fourth lord Jupiter placed in the second. Mars is placed in the third house of
travel. Mars and Saturn aspect the tenth house. Mars is exalted and Mercury Venus and Jupiter are placed in their own houses in the Navamsa.

A clear pattern is observable in the above horoscopes involving Venus, Moon,
Saturn and Mars and the Lagna, second, third, fourth, ninth, tenth and eleventh houses.

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 25 Sep 2015

Walter P. Chrysler was born on April 2nd 1875 at Wamego Kansas (39N12 96W18) 96W18 LMT./ Walter P Chrysler founded the Chrysler Corporation and ran it from 1925 to 1935.

The birth time is given as 12.02 pm with the source unknown and a C rating or unreliable. In the above three horoscopes (Ford, Bajaj and Tata) Saturn aspects the Lagna so the Lagna could be either Aries, Leo or Scorpio. In the absence of clarity on birth time it is better to take the Chandra Lagna with 12 noon as the tentative birth time.

The Chandra Lagna is Aquarius and the Moon is placed in Dhanista
Nakshatra (this is quite sure taking his career trajectory into consideration) ruled by Mars. Venus yogakaraka for Aquarius (lord of the 4th and 9th) is conjoined with Saturn Chandra Lagna Lord, Mercury Atmakaraka and the Moon. Jupiter the lord of the second and the eleventh is placed in Libra ruled by Venus in the ninth from these planets aspecting them in a very close orb. This is a very good combination showing his rise from very humble origins to a very high position. Mars is in the eleventh from Chandra Lagna in Sagittarius the ninth house of the zodiac.

Karakamsa is Aries with Mercury Atmakaraka in it, Mars is in Navamsa there in its own house aspecting exalted Saturn placed in the seventh from it.

It can be seen that Mercury the planet of travel also plays an important part in the mix. In the horoscope of Henry Ford it is in the ninth house with the Sun in the Rasi of Moon involved in a
9/10 Rajyoga (between Sun and Moon), In the horoscopes of Rahul Bajaj and Ratan Tata it is in the Lagna also involved in a Rajayoga.

Here it is involved in a Rajayoga with Venus a singlehanded yogakaraka (lord of 4th and 9th), besides being a Atmakaraka and a lord of the trine (the 5th).

Chrysler started his career as a machinist and a railroad mechanic.
(See the prominence of Mars and Saturn in Karakamsa, Navamsa, and Nakshatra). Chandra Lagna is ruled by Saturn and tenth from Chandra Lagna is ruled by Mars.

His automotive career began in 1911 (In Sat/Sat. See horoscope of Nixon who was also born in Dhanista and became VP in Sat/Sat in 1952).

Chrysler reached his peak nearing his sixtieth year with a Saturn/Jupiter return to its natal
positions in Mercury MD Venus AD. Other horoscopes with martian nakshatras can be analysed for this career trajectory. At the age of 61 he retired stepping down from an active role in the company. Jupiter's aspect on Saturn however lead to a smooth exit.

Chrysler was later part of the Big Three auto companies (Ford, General Motors being the other two), but the smallest sibling of the three entities and subject to boom bust cycles which can be analysed astrologically.

The story of the auto companies and the characters involved when juxtaposed with their
horoscopes and the cycles to which the industry is subject to is a very very fascinating subject.

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 26 Sep 2015

Gianni Agnelli was an Italian industrialist and President of Fiat from1966 to 1996. Gianni headed an empire established by his grandfather Giovanni. His net worth was estimated to be $1.5 billion.

Gianni was a very high profile figure with a status equivalent to a king, with connections to the jet set, political figures on the world stage like the Kennedys, Rockerfellers, Nixon and Kissinger, turning Italy's biggest car maker into an international conglomerate. He was
the richest man in modern Italian history controlling 4.4% of Italy's GDP.

He was born on 12th March 1921 at 2:30 am at Turin, (45N03 7E40) E1h Italy.

Sagittarius (also Karakamsa) rises with the lord of the Lagna Jupiter conjoined with the lord of the second and third house Saturn in the ninth house. It is aspected by Sun and Mercury (9/10 lords) which is placed in the third house. Saturn and Sun exchange houses. This is a very powerful Raja Yoga combination centering on the 3rd and 9th houses both travel houses, involving the Lagna lord second lord, third lord, fourth lord, ninth lord and tenth lord. Jupiter is the Lagna lord as well as lord of the fourth house (Vahansthana). Venus the vahanakaraka is in the fifth house aspected by Jupiter (lord of the fourth Vahanasthana) from the ninth. Moon and Mars conjoin in the fourth house constituting a Chandra Mangala Yoga in the fourth house (vahanasthana).

As in the above four horoscopes (Ford, Bajaj, Tata, and Chrysler) Mercury the planet of travel is involved in a 9/10 Raja Yoga.

Navamsa Lagna is Aries with Venus placed in the fourth in Cancer.

Atmakaraka is Saturn and is placed in Sagittarius Navamsa which is the Karakamsa in the ninth from the Navamsa Lagna, Mars (Vargotamma) and the Sun aspects Saturn in Karakamsa (Jamini aspect).

He was born in Revati Nakshatra. He became the patriarch after his grandfather died in 1945, his mother having died near about that time. (his father having died when he was 14) in Venus MD.

The period of his grandfathers death coincided with the end of the World War II and Fiat faced
some problems due to some links with the Axis powers as Italy had entered the War on the side of the Axis powers.

Venus Dasa (usually after Rahu AD) tends to be problematic for this nakshatra with the trends picking up after the start of the Sun Mahadasa . Venus is here also a malefic from both Lagna and Chandra Lagna.

Here the Sun the ninth lord is involved in a Rajayoga.
Sun Dasa started in July 1954 and coincided with the post war boom in Europe. He had been married on 19th Nov 1953. After the start of this phase he began to a
take a greater interest in the company, which was run by Vittorio Valletta who had been appointed by his grandfather. He raised Fiat to became the most important company in Italy and one of the major car builders in Europe.

He took over the helm of Fiat empire (estimated in the region of $ 50 billion) at the age of 45 in 1966 in Moon MD Mercury AD (Moon in Chandra Mangal Yoga in 4th house and Mercury in 9/10 Raja Yoga).

He gave up day to day management of the company in 1980. This coincides with Rahu MD Rahu AD.

He finally stepped down in 1996 which coincides with the Dasa sandhi of Rahu/Mars- Jupt/Jupt so common to the Mercurian nakshatras indicating some closure like death or retirement. (see horoscopes of Rabindranath Tagore/Howard Hughes). Fiat which had been in the first division challenging Volkswagen upto 1990, having expanded into South America began losing tempo just before he stepped down which coincided with the Sade Sati and transit Saturn's conjunction with his natal Sun.

He died on 24th Jan 2003.

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Post by 091190 » 27 Sep 2015

Dear Haresh,
Please advise about my career. It's been very shaky since 1996.
Here is the link to my birth details.

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 19&t=30113
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Post by Haresh Kumar » 04 Nov 2015

The problems at Volkswagen which first surfaced in mid-September have now aggravated and this moves along astrological predictable lines with the movement of Mars in Virgo. VW announced late Tuesday night that there were irregularities in the CO2 levels that emerged as part of the internal investigations. The previous findings were restricted to nitrogen oxide which is harmful but less of a driver to climate change.

VW , Audi, Skoda and Seat vehicles are affected. It included diesel as well as petrol vehicles.

Cars with 1.4, 1.6 and 2.0 litre motors are thought to be releasing more of the greenhouse gas,
CO2, than previous tests had shown.


The share prices fell as much as by about 10% today on the news.


The trends could worsen to till 24th December, then there could be some relief, a slight pause then an increasingly negative phase after 20th Feb 2016. The negative trends going and coming cyclically can be astrologically analysed and may last upto Dec 2017.

To get a clear idea of the future we have to study the past.

If the date of its inception (May 28th 1937) is taken and a noon horoscope is constructed the Dasa periods would be Sat MD and Ven AD and Sun AD upto roughly 2017. The directional and transit influences are in tandem. Moreover the Moon is in Poorvashada in the horoscope and this is a Sade Sathi period and transit Saturn is not only in the twelfth from the Moon but opposes the natal Sun. Poorvashada is a volatile nakshatra and the first Dasa is that of Venus. For Dhanus (Sagittarius) Venus is a malefic and there were problems at the inception.

In fact after the KdF (Kraftdurch-Freude)-Wagen (“strength through-Joy” car) was for the first time at the Berlin Motor Show in 1939, World War II began, and Volkswagen halted production.

In April 1945, KdF-Stadt, and its heavily bombed factory were captured by the Americans, and subsequently handed over to the British, within whose occupation zone the town and factory fell.

It was about this time that the name was changed to Volkswagen, and the town in which the plant was housed to Wolfsburg.

The plant was offered to representative of from the American, British, Australian and French motor industries who all rejected it at that time.

. The transit of Saturn and Jupiter are similiar to those that obtained in the middle 1950's.

It was only in the 1960's that the advertising agency Doyle Dane Bernbach launched a successful ad campaign dubbing the car as the 'Beetle' transforming its size into an advantage

In the current phase the trends could worsen till it gets better with the fire fighting continuing.

A more progressive phase could commence after Saturn and Jupiter both move into the second drekkana of Sidereal Capricorn in early 2021.

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Post by tanmish » 04 Nov 2015

Wow, astrology is barely able to make half-decent predictions for most mere mortals, and you're trying to apply it to an entire industry spread across the globe?? First time I've seen this...

Anyway to each his own. Not sure how anyone is supposed to benefit from these write-ups unless they're (or are going to be) an investor in VW stocks or bonds. And so, will you also let us know the right time to invest?

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 04 Nov 2015

It is not an entire industry across the globe! .

It is restricted to one entity, the Volkswagen Group. VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat vehicles are part of the group. The problems they are facing, are peculiar to this group.

There are times when transits and directional influences mesh. It helps to know the
past when you have to predict the future.

If it of no use to you, just ignore it.

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Haresh Kumar wrote:The problems at Volkswagen which first surfaced in mid-September have now aggravated and this moves along astrological predictable lines with the movement of Mars in Virgo. VW announced late Tuesday night that there were irregularities in the CO2 levels that emerged as part of the internal investigations. The previous findings were restricted to nitrogen oxide which is harmful but less of a driver to climate change.
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In the current phase the trends could worsen till it gets better with the fire fighting continuing.

A more progressive phase could commence after Saturn and Jupiter both move into the second drekkana of Sidereal Capricorn in early 2021.
Haresh,

Nice postings. Thanks. What is interesting is that it seems to be only the diesel models in the VW line-up that utilized the "cheater" software presumably to deliberately mislead the emission testing that created this massive headache for VW. Non-diesels do not have such dark clouds (pardon the pun) but now consumers are wary of buying the unaffected models! in your research (astrological) did you come across any correlates that would explain such phenomena? VW (many models) ran into another recall several years ago when the seat-warmers tended to over-heat and caused burns in some drivers and also the upholstery. Something to do with mars and sun...? Recalls have been affecting several auto makers in the past decade or two it seems. American cars, Japanese (Toyota, Honda) have had problems with safety-bags, gas tanks, faulty brakes, problem with computers controlling the acceleration-braking electronics, etc and have had to issue many expensive recalls. Some blame it all on poorer quality control (to manage costs in a very competitive market with a glut of cars). Wonder if some trends and transits are responsible affecting or indicating this seemingly higher than expected misery surrounding the industry. Perhaps the now being beta-tested driverless cars and fleet-communication (tandem strategies to reduce traffic jams) are a bit too risky and premature, at this time. Rahu, you think...?

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Post by Lex » 05 Nov 2015

Hey Harish Kumar

You did a good job, but my worry is time, the exact time, if you have used BTR of Astrodata bank , than it will be junk in Vedic astrology, because they use Sayana system, it becomes use less time per-se

O.K, not all time 4th house connection of Shukra etc will show a automobile, it can show a good ornament with Diamond pecked necklace, Shukra karaka for jewellery and neck

Here comes, the movable sign, fixed sign tatwa gunas and ofcourse quadruped signs too. If you read my post,on the launch of Indian Railways in this website as well as across other groups, predicted on Indian Railways launch pad, which was commissioned during Pre-Independence our country.

Did touch on Whistle-blower on faulty production through astrology and Ex-CEO of VW resigning, and the Muhurat of VW launch as Limited company in Wolfsburg?

Let me get time, I will cast K.P. Chart of Volkswagen, we will see what it says

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 05 Nov 2015

Hi Rohiniranjan,

I have read your articles at Boloji.com and I must say they are top class.

There was one on paralytic attacks/accidents which I had read online, many years ago. The Sun, Sat, the 10th house/rasi figured prominently and there were some practical examples given by you. What struck me at that time was the combinations applied to the horoscope of President FDR who also had a paralytic attack and who had his Sun in Capricorn (Sidereal) aspected by Saturn from Aries and Mars from Gemini. The Dasa Bhukti correlation was also excellent and gave exact results with respect to FDR and the paralysis he suffered on account on polio in the summer of 1921 towards the end of Saturn Dasa.

There was another one on Ashtotari Dasa which was also good and set me thinking, which is an excellent starting point for somebody who wants to probe deeper.

The articles on Dasa Bhukti primers are also excellent. Those here in the forum should read them, to develop more basic and advanced knowledge of the subject.

As you have rightly said with respect to VW one incident can spill over, and the whole brand can get tainted. Then there are also competitors with long knives.

Again with respect to seats and upholstery you have hit the bulls eye. Mars and Rahu are conjunct in Scorpio and Sun and Kethu are conjoined in Taurus in opposition to Mars and Rahu, in the inception chart. (28/5/1937) and Saturn is moving over the planets, though as you have said this has happened in the past, so perhaps under the present transits it can happen again.

The current case I feel involves deception and intelligent fraud and belongs in Mercury's domain. An afflicted Mercury is generally the culprit.. I have found Mercury conjoined with Kethu (or other identical afflictions) in charts of convicted ponzi artists, fraudsters and bank employees on suspension. Surprisingly the Dasas are also of Mercury or Kethu. In many cases it could be the chart of the victim.

The weak/malefic planets hit, like Nixon had Saturn (R) in the tenth house and Watergate broke out when Saturn had returned to its natal position in the tenth house coinciding with the break-in prior to the 1972 elections when Woodward and Bernstein went after them. This was in Mercury MD. Natal Venus and Mars impacted Clinton when Saturn by transit was opposing them in 1995-1998, though he was impeached in 1998 when Saturn had moved to Aries and he came out unscathed. Again here the Dasa was Jupt/Venus and Jupt/Sun. So also Harshad Mehta with Mercury conjunct Kethu in the Kethu Dasa. (This also coincided with Jupiters transit of Leo in 1992).

Christeen Skinner ( specialising in Business/Financial Astrology) a fine astrologer tracked down fraudsters in one of her clients company,
using Neptune's (favourite planet for Tropical Astrologers for fraud) transits and its natal positions in the charts of the employees.

Mercury, Rahu , Kethu and Mandi are more than sufficient of course. ( In this case transit Kethu was transiting natal Mercury from 14.1. 2013 to 13.7.2014 ). The nakshatras are also important. Here in the VW case the fraud had sanction from the upper echelons so there is no need to probe as the culprits must be known to the inner circle.

The transits of Jupiter match those in late 1944/1945 during the closing phase of WWII. Jupiter today is at 23 degrees Leo which translates to October 13th 1944, the closing days of the War. There could be an event after about 8 months after Jupiter retrogrades and comes again to about 24 degrees when the War was finally over in May 1945. This period roughly corresponds to July 2016.

Transit Saturn is of course in the twelfth from natal Moon of the inception chart now, conjunct natal Mars and Rahu and opposing natal Sun and Kethu. The period is Saturn MD.

Transits tend to bring multiple events.

There could be some problems with the stock market and the banks here also around July 2016 and in the run up to that period.

This is just my humble opinion.

Your articles have thrown a lot of light and your inputs here are useful, so thanks.

Best regards.

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Analysis of VW......

Lets see VW went in to Public, thereby has to comply with all the Laws wherever the company operates, includes EU legislation as well as US Federal laws, like FCPA etc, which are more stringent than any laws in the planet



Volkswagenwerk AG. or VW in short, in the year 1961 was listed in Germany, now it is under purview of EU, the time the first share Volkswagenwerk AG. was traded at 1130 hrs on 7th April



As I began to plot Volkswagenwerk AG. , business Chart as an Enterprise gone in public, today Friday, Lord Shukra, in the Heaven's map, the latitude I was in, lagna was transiting in Mesha, Kuja, in Kritikka nakshtra and in sub of Ravi ( Ravi and Budha aspects today on rising lagna), Kuja Rahu Shukra rapt conjunction,

today Chandra transiting in Simha, Ravi in Purvaphalguni nk, with Guru in today's rasi and today Kuja, Shukra aspects Ketu, and Shani aspects Chandra and Guru



Lets see Enterprise Volkswagenwerk AG. Business lagna sputa cusp in Karkata , Chandra in Pushya nakshtra and in sub of Shani and Shani in Uttarashada nakshatra, Ravi

Ravi and Shukra are in rapt conjunction

Guru and Shani are in rapt conjunction



4th house... denotes Factories, includes quality tests conducted etc

5th house... denotes products etc

11th house.. deliveries of products to customers, collection of payments etc

2nd... internal assets, shares,etc

6th... workers, issues, litigations

12th... bad reputes, penalties etc

9th.. Head of Enterprise,CEO, oversees all world wide operations, includes Corporate Social Responsibilities, Compliance Certificate signing etc

8th.. Defects of Head of Enterprise respect to handling of such above mentioned processes

7th... Companies or Enterprise Customers, like Vendors, Third party supplier, or even End-users of Enterprise products



Lets come back to Lagna sputa cusp, Shani in Makara

..The firm denotes Movable product and in quadruped sign

...A car or A tyre etc

Shani aspects Shukra and Shukra and Ravi are in rapt conjunction

Shukra is a karaka for vehicle

Shukra deposition in sub is Shani... Denotes Vehicle

Shukra and Ravi deposited in Revati nk, 4th and 12th lord ( Karkata has two cusps)



The enterprise of this chart is dealing in Cars ( Karkata lagna falling in Movable sign)



The 8th cusp falls in Makara and so also 7th cusp, Makara sign is normal zodiac's 10th sign...Profession , in Makara sign, in nirayana rasi, Shani and Guru is placed in 7th, Kuja, the normal zodiac's 8th lord aspects Shani's sign... denotes Engineering, Kuja is 11th lord in 12th in Punarvasu nakshatra, therefore income is generated from International trade

Kuja aspects 4th cusp



We know, whistle-blowers had informed then CEO about illegal safety emission issues



6th cusp in Moolam nk in sub of Vakri Shukra and Shukra in Budha's star

Ketu in 9th in nirayana rasi but goes to 8th but Ketu is rapt conjunction with 9th cusp

Ketu is an agent of Shani and Ketu in Satabhista nk, and Rahu represents Ravi ( Ravi and Shukra in rapt conjunction)

Ketu+ Shani...denotes Smoke

Chandra is deposited in 6th cusp

Guru in Shravanna nk, Guru is 6th cusp lord, Staffs or workers are highly trained and talented

Guru and Shani are in rapt conjunction, joint results

Shani+ Chandra... denotes Disel, Petrol, since Guru also connected...CNG

Shani and Guru are in Uttarashada, Ravi is connected to Shukra

VW chart, 6th denotes employees handling Cars and quality testing of emission etc, also they signify 4 th and 5th houses too ( refer above clarification of 4th and 5th)



...contd

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 06 Nov 2015

Hi Lex,

I don't understand your line of reasoning.



The company was founded on 28th May 1937 at Berlin (52N29 13E21)

The name of the company was changed to Volkwagenwerk on 22 August 1960.

The shares were first traded on the stock exchange at Hanover (52N22 9E44 h1e) on 7.4.1961
at 11.30 am.

The whistleblower turned over the data to the EPA in May 2014.

The admission was made on 20th September 2015.

The shares plunged on the 21st.

The birth data of the CEO is available. Martin Winkerton 24th May 1947.

You should proceed on those lines.


These details are universally applicable.




Drawing a prasna chart for the day you 'analyse' the chart makes no sense at all. There may hundreds of people 'analysing' the chart around the world with all different prasna charts.
Why give KP a bad name.

Jargon analysis never works!

The Titanic has hit the iceberg, the BP oil has spilled, the Hiroshima bomb has been dropped
and you are drawing up a KP Prasna Chart.

This is like the tail wagging the dog.

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Post by Lex » 06 Nov 2015

Haresh Kumar wrote:Hi Lex,

Drawing a prasna chart for the day you 'analyse' the chart makes no sense at all. There may hundreds of people 'analysing' the chart around the world with all different prasna charts.
Why give KP a bad name.
Are you aware of planetary depositions, yesterday, day before?

How did you conclude the chart I made is a Prashna? Is it a Prashna chart?

Therefore your vocabulary used in the post out of context

I raised one question, Is birth time in Astrodata bank used ( which you been quoted) a BTR? Vedic Astrology doesn't follow Sayana system

You know what, Thomas Edison always use to say, I Haven't failed, but I found out 10000 ways that won't work.
BTW, I am a Science as well as Management practitioner, K.P. will work and gives name, when science methodology used, after all Management is a Science, so is Vedas and Vedic astrology is a part of vedas.

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 06 Nov 2015

Hi Lex,

"Today Chandra is transiting Simha ...............today Kuja, Sukra aspect Kethu..... and Sani
aspects Chandra and Guru?"

Which horoscope is it?
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Why create problems Lex? At least leave Edison alone!
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Post by Haresh Kumar » 06 Nov 2015

In reply to your question, if you can't differentiate between the Sayana and Nirayana planetary positions from the birth details that is too bad.

You may have got some of your nakshatras wrong also. Why not edit it?

If you just want to waste time why not go elsewhere.

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Post by Lex » 07 Nov 2015

Haresh Kumar wrote:Hi Lex,

"Today Chandra is transiting Simha ...............today Kuja, Sukra aspect Kethu..... and Sani
aspects Chandra and Guru?"

Which horoscope is it?
'
Why create problems Lex? At least leave Edison alone!
When K.P.System not understood by you, do not comment.

Since you had enquired, the above is the Celestial map, when I was analyzing Business chart of VW.
The planets becomes Ruling planets

You have not read fully, whose chart was deciphered at that time at that Latitude.

Please re read, whose Chart I had diagnosed and predicted

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Post by Lex » 07 Nov 2015

Haresh Kumar wrote:In reply to your question, if you can't differentiate between the Sayana and Nirayana planetary positions from the birth details that is too bad.

You may have got some of your nakshatras wrong also. Why not edit it?

If you just want to waste time why not go elsewhere.
First you say I decipher a Prashna chart
When quizzed no answer from you

Second you said, the chart I used was EX CEO, you Edited in your post
Again , you went wrong, I never predicted a live human being chart in these posts

You say , may be nakshatra wrong, I am sure I don't make any calculations mistake, because calculations has to tally with my Ruling planets, at the chart of analysis.

You never replied on Astrodata bank details, BTR of Astrodata are all worked on Sayana systems, you feed that time in your astro software, it is bound to give junk data with Sayana BTR

Do not merge Sayana of Astrodata details in to our Sages Astrology system, in fact I did write to Jaimini practising International repute Vedic folk, that on one hand you practice Vedic and on the other hand you quote BTR of Astrodata bank, what is this?
He wrote to me, yes he was Erring, and he said he will not use the Astrodata details in his research

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 07 Nov 2015

Birth details are birth details. It is up to which chart you prepare. What is your problem? I think you are mentally challenged.Why don't you do something productive. Your knowledge of astrology is poor.

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 07 Nov 2015

http://www.astrosage.com/celebrity-horo ... oscope.asp

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bush,_George_W.


These are identical birth details of George W Bush by Astrosage and Astro dot com.

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Post by Lex » 09 Nov 2015

Haresh Kumar wrote:Birth details are birth details. It is up to which chart you prepare. What is your problem? I think you are mentally challenged.Why don't you do something productive. Your knowledge of astrology is poor.
All I am saying, why you do use fictious birth time and disturbing Sages derived astrology. Can all watches manufactured world wide agree to GPS based birth time, unless it is GPS aided?

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Post by Lex » 09 Nov 2015

Haresh Kumar wrote:http://www.astrosage.com/celebrity-horo ... oscope.asp

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bush,_George_W.


These are identical birth details of George W Bush by Astrosage and Astro dot com.
We were discussing on VW, you are drifting some other subject, now Bush, what Bush got to do in VW or Car or Automobile company

Are you saying the person quoted here has got some birth time reporting with VW?

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Post by Haresh Kumar » 09 Nov 2015

I use only authentic birth data gleaned from unimpeachable sources. I cross check the birth
details whenever possible, if there is any doubt. I do not use fictitious birth times. Whenever the birth time is not available the practice is to use a chart made out for 12 noon.


The birth details available on the Astro-Databank are authentic and classified according to grade. These details are used by indigenous websites like Astro Sage etc. without any changes. The data available on the Astro-Databank are also used by astrologers here in India. I don't want to enter into meaningless and prolonged discussions on the subject.

For example

The birth details of Adolf Hitler appearing in the Astro-Databank is 20th April 1889 at 6.30 pm.
(LMT) at Branau Austria 48N15 13E04.

The same birth details is used in the book 'Timing of Events' by Sumeet Chugh as also in the book 'Notable Horoscopes' by Dr. B.V. Raman.

I can give thousands of other examples. Why waste time.

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