is 7th house navamsa you or your spouse?

[astrostar]

Dear Astrostar ji, I am asking for navamsha only without knowing the degrees.

Sorry, i misunderstood. I thought, you were asking about D1 chart. Degrees not required for D9.

Here are a few predictions about Mercury and Venus in 7th house in Navamsa.

Traits -
This combination gives socializing ability, smooth-talking abilities. Native can correlate information from different places/sources/people. Acquires knowledge thru experience and also learns by observing other's events and moments. From each individual encountered native knows something. Is more concerned with facts than with attitudes and personal preferences. So, possesses an unbiased and impersonal ability to perceive the truth. Can see situations from many viewpoints. Can find new and surprising solutions to problems. Native is fond of communications, traveling, friendship, humor, etc. This native has pleasing manners and maintains good relations with siblings, neighbors, friends. Usually gets benefit through social connections and uses links with others to get on in life. Uses creative imagination to deal with every logical and analytical thing.

relationship/partner -

Native seeks loving, creative and nurturing partnership. May want a partner who is involved in all areas of their life. Intelligence might be first on the list of desirable qualities in a partner. Shops (searches) around for a mate who is intellectually stimulating. Native tries to work out all difficulties rationally and likes to pick partners who show these rational traits. Examines the relationship from every angle before making a firm commitment to it. Wants a partner with whom can share ideas. Mate will have similar interests and passions. Mate will have good hair and skin complexion and will be talkative, unreserved, informative person.
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If the above traits are not found in native, then birth time rectification and D9 lagna adjustment is required.

[chandhok.deepak7]

Dear astrostar ji

Thanks a lot. Very nicely explained.

Regards
Deepak

[chirag2modi]

Dear,

7th house signifies 'The Others" which also involves your spouse. means what would be the nature, look of your spouse and how you would be with others and your wife..

[nikadv]

I am trying to learn vedic astrology but this confuses me a lot. how does one predict the spouse characteristics?

There are so many things- 7th house of the rasi chart, 7th house of the Navamsa chart, darakaraka, upapada lagna, venus placement in both rasi and navamsa.

Foe example, in my chart- 7th lord is Saturn placed in 5th house saggitarius.
7th lord of navamsa is mars sitting in 7th house in Aries sign along with sun.
Darakaraka is also mars.
Upapada lagna is Libra with Venus sitting in it.
Venus is in 10th house in Taurus in the birth chart and in the 10th house in Cancer in the navamsa chart.

So does this mean my spouse will have characteristics of Saturn, Mars, Sun, Saggitarius, Aquarius, Taurus, Cancer, Libra, Aries ?

This does not lead you one anywhere in trying to predict the spouse. What is the best way to predict to reach a more precise answer?

[nikadv]

I am trying to learn vedic astrology but this confuses me a lot. how does one predict the spouse characteristics?

There are so many things- 7th house of the rasi chart, 7th house of the Navamsa chart, darakaraka, upapada lagna, venus placement in both rasi and navamsa.

Foe example, in my chart- 7th lord is Saturn placed in 5th house saggitarius.
7th lord of navamsa is mars sitting in 7th house in Aries sign along with sun.
Darakaraka is also mars.
Upapada lagna is Libra with Venus sitting in it.
Venus is in 10th house in Taurus in the birth chart and in the 10th house in Cancer in the navamsa chart.

So does this mean my spouse will have characteristics of Saturn, Mars, Sun, Saggitarius, Aquarius, Taurus, Cancer, Libra, Aries ?

This does not lead you one anywhere in trying to predict the spouse. What is the best way to predict to reach a more precise answer?

[astrostar]

I am trying to learn vedic astrology but this confuses me a lot. how does one predict the spouse characteristics?
There are so many things- 7th house of the rasi chart, 7th house of the Navamsa chart, darakaraka, upapada lagna, venus placement in both rasi and navamsa.

1) 7th house and its significators in D1 represent social/public behavior of spouse.
2) 7th house and its significators in D9 represent inner mentality/behavior of spouse.
3) upapada lagna is used to describe the complete marital life/profile of the native.
4) Venus indicates one's love language.
All the above apply to both male and female.

Foe example, in my chart- 7th lord is Saturn placed in 5th house saggitarius.
7th lord of navamsa is mars sitting in 7th house in Aries sign along with sun.
Darakaraka is also mars. Upapada lagna is Libra with Venus sitting in it.
Venus is in 10th house in Taurus in the birth chart and in the 10th house in Cancer in the navamsa chart.

So does this mean my spouse will have characteristics of Saturn, Mars, Sun, Saggitarius, Aquarius, Taurus, Cancer, Libra, Aries ?

They not only indicate characteristics, but also show quality and timing of the various marital life events.
There may be multiple communications, flirting, relationships, marriages, etc.

This does not lead you one anywhere in trying to predict the spouse. What is the best way to predict to reach a more precise answer?

If one doesn't know/understand rules/principles, it doesn't mean that the rules are useless and waste.
An expert knows how to use them.
No need to worry too much.

[nikadv]

Thank you for your response.

In that case what would would you suggest should be looked at while trying to judge the personality of the spouse towards you and the looks of the spouse?

[astrostar]

judge the personality of the spouse towards you

to know spouse's inherent behavior toward native, refer 7th house and significators in D9
to know spouse's outer behavior toward native in front of other family members, society, study 7th house and its significators of D9 in D1

and the looks of the spouse?

for external looks, refer 7th, 8th houses and significators in D1

[Kathy]

What about Venus in Pisces in 7H in D9 chart?
I have Virgo Ascendant and mercury there in Navamsa chart....
I'm new to astrology and i'm trying to figure out things

[astrostar]

@Kathy Ji,

Venus is a peaceful and harmonious planet. Venus in 7th in D9 indicates a soft inner nature of the spouse. So, spouse behavior towards native will be very soft and not harsh/rude. Venus also indicates a beautiful/handsome spouse. The married life will also be smooth and happy if 7th house and its significators in D1 chart are not afflicted.

Results of Mercury in 1st house in D9
cost-benefit analysis, calculative, verbal talks and analysis, likes communication, measurements, etc.

These results are given only by 2 planets in D9 chart.

[Kathy]

Thanks for your response!
Well actually i'm not sure about married life since i have Jupiter in 7H in D1 in Scorpio and from what i read until now on the web it's not a good position for a woman
Plus Mars is on the 5H in Virgo sitting alone....I'm afraid that i won't find a proper normal guy due to my aggressivity (Moon in Krittika Nakshatra)

[astrostar]

i have Jupiter in 7H in D1 in Scorpio and from what i read until now on the web
it's not a good position for a woman

For Taurus ascendant, Jupiter is lord of 8 and 11.
As lord of 8, Jupiter is a functional malefic.

But, check out the degrees of 7th house and Jupiter in Jhora software.
If Jupiter is behind 7th house degrees, then, no problem.

Plus Mars is on the 5H in Virgo sitting alone....I'm afraid that i won't find a proper normal guy due to my aggressivity (Moon in Krittika Nakshatra)

May not be a correct point.

[Kathy]

Yes actually 7th house starts at 13degrees of scorpio and jupiter is at 12degrees.
So it is suppossed that cancels the maleficness of the planet?

[astrostar]

Yes actually 7th house starts at 13degrees of scorpio and jupiter is at 12degrees.
So it is suppossed that cancels the maleficness of the planet?

Yes. Better.

But, one thing - have to remember, there is another problem.
8th house lord is 2nd lord (money) to spouse (from 7th).
If it is in 6th house, means, money lord is in 12th, and spouse would face financial troubles.
It also depends on who earns money for family.
ok.

With only 1° difference, Jupiter influences 7th house matters.
Actually, this is a good thing, as Jupiter is a natural benefic too.

Now, to determine, whether Jupiter does any harm or not,
must study Jupiter's connections to other houses.
house placement information is not enough.

[Kathy]

Thank you for your replay....it does make sense now
About the connections - Jupiter aspects 11th 1st and 3rd house(i have venus in cancer there) and is aspected by Saturn (Retro in Aquarius 29degrees 10th house)

[astrostar]

For fixed ascendants 9th house is badhaka house.
Jupiter has got badhaka house signification thru saturn.

[Kathy]

Which means that Saturn brings obstacles to Jupiter and the whole 7th house issues (matting,marriage etc.)?
Ok if that's true then i'm done . Better stay alone....

[astrostar]

Since, Jupiter is not in 7th house, he can not affect all 7th house results.
What are the exact degrees-minutes of Jupiter ?

For 7th house matters, go for Mars.
Mars is lord of 7.
If no planet is in 7, then, study Mars' all significations.

[Kathy]

Well Jupiter is 12-06-48 Anuradha Pada3
Mars is even worst.....In Virgo (enemy sign) 5th house 23-03-50 Hasta Naksatra
Aspects 8th 11th and 12th house (moon is there)
I believe Taurus Asc is the worst of all...

[astrostar]

Jupiter has become a malefic.

Mercury is 2nd lord for Taurus ascendant, and it must support 7th lord Mars.
So, Mars is beneficial even though it is in enemy sign.

[Kathy]

Thank you that you clarified that....In fact i believe that i have a "Toxic People Magnet" and i think jupiter is the cause
Mercury doesn't support mars as it is placed 12th from mars in the sign of Leo at 19.46 degrees
Sun is also in Leo 00.45 degrees 4th house...Not very good right?
Plus during mars mahadasha i broke my knee and i needed to get a reconstructive surgery to repair broken ligaments, although post-operatively things in life were going very smooth compared to the past

[astrostar]

Mars aspecting 8, signifying 12.
But Mars also signifying 11th H.

I can still say Sun, Mercury support Mars.

[Kathy]

So spouse will have Virgo caracteristics and scorpionic nature, and will be soft spoken +handsome (D9) as well?
What about the possible place /circumstance of our meeting? And in what age can i meet him?
Sorry for asking so many questions...i'm just curious to learn

[astrostar]

So spouse will have Virgo caracteristics and scorpionic nature, and will be soft spoken +handsome (D9) as well?

good inference

What about the possible place /circumstance of our meeting? And in what age can i meet him?
Sorry for asking so many questions...i'm just curious to learn

Is there any plan to make a long journey next years ?

[Kathy]

Actually currently i'm on a long journey. I'm a student on a foreign land almost 6ys now, although i haven't met sb interesting . I might move to another place on the future (not sure).