Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

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Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by tandav » 28 May 2015

Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1? Are the planetary karakatwas still in effect when interpreting divisional charts? Eg. Sun Rahu conjunction in D9, would it still mean same as in D1?



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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by tandav » 07 Jun 2015

Anyone?

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by tandav » 24 Jun 2015

Hi Hari, I'm really glad to see your response. It helped. Thanks

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by ChandraLagna » 24 Jun 2015

tandav wrote:Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1? Are the planetary karakatwas still in effect when interpreting divisional charts? Eg. Sun Rahu conjunction in D9, would it still mean same as in D1?
NO.

Jupiter can be in Aries, second pada and Chandra could be in taurus 5th pada - so they are more than 30 deg apart but look at Navamsa and voila - there's a Gajakesari Yoga by Conjunction. Conjunction in Navamsa is thus devoid of meaning. Karaktwas are just one - the lordships of houses in natal chart and the natural significators.
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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by tandav » 25 Jun 2015

Thanks ChandraLagna! I'm glad you shared your opinion on this matter and it makes good sense. Then should navamsas be used to confirm the dignity of planets only? Or is there much more to read from it?

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by ChandraLagna » 25 Jun 2015

Yes, it indicates the dignity of the planet. There is actually more one can do with the navamsa placements.

Map the navamsa depositor back into rasi and check the "support" in terms of D9 perspective. As an example, say in the placements I quoted above, Venus happens to be the navamsa depositor of both Guru and Chandra. Now check in Rasi, the placement of Venus with respect to both Guru and Chandra and you get a sense of what is the destined support for those planets and houses. Being in 6th or 8th to the afore mentioned planets means opposition or difficulties. Being in trines is being supportive.
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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by rearguard » 26 Jun 2015

Dear CLG,

Is the same mapping valid for other divisional charts?

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by ChandraLagna » 26 Jun 2015

Yes, the same concept is valid. No houses, no aspects, no conjunction at all in any vargas.
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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by simhamakaran » 28 Jun 2015

Dear CL,

If Navamsa is used to judge dignity of planets, do the concepts of Debilitation and Cancellation of Debilitation, also apply to Navamsa? Btw, what rules do you use to determine Neecha Bhanga? Thanks

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Post by ChandraLagna » 04 Jul 2015

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by simhamakaran » 05 Jul 2015

Thank you for your response CL. However, the thread you referred to concerns specific instance of cancellation of debilitation observed in rasi due to placement in navamsa.

To clarify, my question above is whether debilitation is a phenomenon that can be observed directly on the navamsa chart i.e. does it matter if a planet is debilitated in navamsa? If so, where do you look to determine whether the debilitation in the navamsa has been cancelled?

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by huien1 » 15 Jul 2015

Hi, I'm still learning. To answer your question, exaltation and debilitation is seen only in rasi. Navamsa placements are used to support rasi placements.

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by ChandraLagna » 15 Jul 2015

simhamakaran wrote: does it matter if a planet is debilitated in navamsa? If so, where do you look to determine whether the debilitation in the navamsa has been cancelled?
Sloka 2. When the Sun occupies in Mesha a Navamsa of Tula and is aspected by a malefic planet, the person born will be money less.

This gives an answer to the above - YES, it matters a great deal if a planet is neecha in Navamsa. One can check in rasi the placement of navamsa depositor for any mitigatory factors.
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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by simhamakaran » 17 Jul 2015

Thank you for the response CL

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by pralokitaa » 19 Mar 2018

Dear ChandraLagna Ji,

whenever reading any post, when i click on such links (below), it takes me to the home page and not to the link page. what can be done.. any settings issue or for a new comer this is so.


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Post by ChandraLagna » 21 Mar 2018

Hi Pralokitaa,

This is happening because the forum was initially on a different board & when we moved here, the references did not carry over correctly and completely. I suggest that you replace the "3.0" with "3.1" in the url manually and see if it helps get to the right url.
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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by pralokitaa » 22 Mar 2018

Dear ChandraLagna Ji,

Thanks Sir for the correction. It helped me to dig deeper into the problem.

I am just mentioning here for the new comers who would be facing this same problem in future.

Only changing 3_0 to 3.1 wont work.

the working link is "viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13964"
the link not working is "http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... =6&t=13964"

So please add "https://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/w ... phpBB_3.1/" and then add the forum number or topic number of the link not working like "viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13964".

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by inhispath » 13 Sep 2018

[quote=pralokitaa post_id=255429 time=1521718222 user_id=18910]
Dear ChandraLagna Ji,

Thanks Sir for the correction. It helped me to dig deeper into the problem.

I am just mentioning here for the new comers who would be facing this same problem in future.

Only changing 3_0 to 3.1 wont work.

the working link is "https://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/w ... =6&t=13964"
the link not working is "http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... =6&t=13964"

So please add "https://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/w ... phpBB_3.1/" and then add the forum number or topic number of the link not working like "viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13964".

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Thank you for this solution! Really appreciate it.

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by justchill » 13 Apr 2019

ChandraLagna wrote:
> Yes, it indicates the dignity of the planet. There is actually more one
> can do with the navamsa placements.
>
> Map the navamsa depositor back into rasi and check the "support"
> in terms of D9 perspective. As an example, say in the placements I quoted
> above, Venus happens to be the navamsa depositor of both Guru and Chandra.
> Now check in Rasi, the placement of Venus with respect to both Guru and
> Chandra and you get a sense of what is the destined support for those
> planets and houses. Being in 6th or 8th to the afore mentioned planets
> means opposition or difficulties. Being in trines is being supportive.


Sir,

What about in Kendra’s relative to Rasi position of dispositive?

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Re: Do conjunctions mean the same in D9, as in D1?

Post by Bhishma » 29 May 2019

ChandraLagna wrote:
21 Mar 2018
Hi Pralokitaa,

This is happening because the forum was initially on a different board & when we moved here, the references did not carry over correctly and completely. I suggest that you replace the "3.0" with "3.1" in the url manually and see if it helps get to the right url.
Hi ChandraLagna Admin Sir, the link issues still persist for me. None of the solutions mentioned in this page is working and upon clicking the link it directs to the forum home index. Any guidance in this regard would be much welcomed :(

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