Battle in 8th house

[Sunjit86]

Quick question:

How does an exalted malefic behave in the 8th house?

I.e Gemini Ascendant, with 6th and 11th lord exalted in the 8th house.

[srcs]

@sunjit86; This causes sort of partial Viparita yoga. gains from younger siblings/interviews/press etc/thro' partner/
spouse/from jobs/service/from opponents. It all depends on dasa/bhukthi dispositor etc.

[Sunjit86]

@SRCS:

The dipositor is in the 6th house. Saturn is in Scorpio.

Parvitarna Yoga + Vipreeet Raja Yoga.

Shadbala of Both is around 145%. Both are highest shadbalas.

Can you explain how the effects are felt in the 8th house coz 6th lord represnets debts but 11th represents gains....so isnt it contradictory?

I find this very hard to infer and deduce. can anybody enlighten? how a malefic exalted behaves in an "evil" house?


2nd October 1986, Singapore , GMT +0800, 0100AM

[danigul]

Dev,

Thank you!
sun 4:32 in virgo
mercury is 23:42 rero in virgo
saturn is 28:16 varghotamma in virgo and is my atmakaraka..

THanks

[shoemaker]

Hii danigul,

Please mention your place of birth.

[Dev]

Hi Danigel:

Your mercury and saturn are far away from sun and not combust.

[SuryaLagna]

Hi all,

How does a retro sat in the 8th behave when the lagna is taurus. Being a YK, will it prevent the harm which would have been otherwise inflicted?

[shoemaker]

@ SuryaLagna,

A retro planet if also debiliated will act strong as a exalted planet,

In Taurus lagna Saturn will be placed in neutral sign(saggittarius) if retrograde then it will give effects of 2H(gemini) also. Its dispositor wiz Jupiter should also be checked before coming to conclusion.

shoemaker

[SuryaLagna]

Hi Shoemaker,

What does exchange of LL and 8th lord imply in general, other factors being constant?

Regards
SL

[shoemaker]

@ SuryaLagna,

"Lagna is kingdom if LL comes to 8H then he's ready to fight in battlefield & if 8L comes to Lagna that means he has won the battle & regaining kingship".

This statement holds true for only Aries & Libra lagna people where Lagnesh & asthamesh are same.
For lagnas like Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn & Pisces this exchange is bad coz here LL is enimical to 8L, & when Lagnesh comes in 8H means he's powerless to fight enemies & get defeated or when Asthamesh comes to Lagna means he's injured or incapable to rule.

Generally this exchange gives bodily ailments, discomforts, injuries etc.

Regards
shoemaker

[SuryaLagna]

Dear Shoemaker,

In case of Leo lagna where jupiter owns 5th and 8th, is the aspect of jupiter on 7th considered as benefic notwithstanding its lordship of 8th?

Regards
SL

[shoemaker]

@ SuryaLagna,

Jupiter is 3rd rate benefic planet for leo's its maleficience by lordshing of 8H gets cancelled coz its Mooltrikona sign comes on 5H.

Aspect on 7H by its 5th & 9th drishti benefits the 7H, but opposite drishti(7th aspect) is damaging to some extent.

Regards
shoemaker

[SuryaLagna]

Dear Shoemaker,

I have my doubts on the apects of jupiter on 7th house. I am leo lagna but i havnt had any good experience with jupiter. It seems to be good professionally but personally, it is carrying out more of 8th house functions rather than 5th house.

Regards
SL

[shoemaker]

@ SuryaLagna,

Post your details so that we can analyse condition of jupiter...

Regards
shoemaker

[SM1983]

Hello Learned Astrologers:

I can also be a big example, when 8th house is concerned. Right now I am running Sun MD since 2006 and it has thrown me in some corner. Huge huge amount of depression, anxiety,fear, liver issue has grabbed me. Now i am no where. It's such a worst worst time of my life. I do have Sun and Mars at 8th house. Below I am providing my birth details and please look into that. You may have some conclusion.

My birth details:-
Male
DOB: 07-06-1983 (DD/MM/YYYY)
Time:- 16:10
Place: Durgapur (23.48 N,87.32 E), West Bengal

Regards
SM1983

[shoemaker]

@ SM1983,

Yes, It seems that you are realizing bad effects of 8H, coz here badhkesha Sun is sitting in 8H & aspected by shashtesha Jupiter giving negative results.

Remember Sun is very bad for Libras, Mars is deeply combust means adverse effects of 7H(stomach, liver part).
Some improvement in coming Moon dasha.

Regards
shoemaker

[SM1983]

Hello Shoemaker

Thank you for your analysis.

Yes, Sun MD really very very bad. I am too much troubled by Sun MD. Most of ADs were bad and some times worst. Right now I am running Sun/Venus which is also worst. I will enter Moon MD in May-2014. How will be my Moon MD? I really want get out of depression, anxiety etc. Now it has started troubling my daily life. I have really become helpless.

Right now I am wearing pearl and red coral stone. I don't know how much it is helping me.

Regards
SM1983

[shoemaker]

@ SM1983,

Moon dasha will surely deliver positives though it is in infancy stage but exalted in D-9 & D-10 in kendra. Try to avoid gem of Mars as it's a maraka planet.

Regards
shoemaker

[SM1983]

Thanks Shoemakerji for your time.

I have one question for you, when I will be able to change my current job? Frankly speaking my life is completely messed up. My sleep is also affected hugely. I am taking medicine for depression and anxiety last 2 months. At home there is lot of tension due to me. We are planning for my marriage, but we are very much tensed due to my mental health. In last 5.5 yrs I had jaundice 3 times. In this period of Sun MD, I earned a lot but also spend money for my treatment. I am understanding that, things are going in wrong distance but I can not control that.My mind is not in my control. It just blows worstly. Another thing I would like mention, when ever I try to travel (even short distance) it become big headache. There will be huge amount of anxiety and fear during travel.

Right now I am planning to change my job with in 3-4 months and move to a new city. Hopefully I get refreshed by that and by then my Moon MD will be on. Please do answer.

Many thanks.

Regards
SM1983

[shoemaker]

@ SM1983,

Your Moon is aspected by Saturn(98% of drishti, # note: here Saturn is gnatikaraka) & Ketu(96% of drishti), hence giving depression, unwanted fears, emotional stress etc. To wardoff these effects I suggest you do meditation & remedial mantras..

chant mantras for Sun, coz 8H is a Psychic house malefics here will do harm on mental plane of native.
link is here:-
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 18&t=20487

Hope You will perform & come out of this...

Regards
shoemaker

[SM1983]

Thanks Shoemakerji for your advice.

Before Sun MD I was completely fine. Every thing was smooth. My mind used to be very clear and I was very much strong willed person. People used to give my example for my strong mind. Now I am no where. I started realising before 6 months of Sun MD that some thing is worng. Then slowly Sun grabbed me and ended every thing.

Please tell me when I will be able to change my job? Thanks.

Regards
SM1983

[shoemaker]

Time after this sep-14 is better for job changes.

[SM1983]

Thank you Shoemakerji for your help.

Regards
SM1983

[SM1983]

Hello Shoemakerji:

Thanks fo all your help.

How do you see my career and married life over all? I am working as a scientist in pharmaceutical industry last 7.5 yrs. One more thing, I would like to ask you another question. When ever 8th house dasha operates, does it always will be bad? or it depends up on which planet is situated there. I am having Mars also in 8th house. Does it going be like Sun MD?

Thanks and Regards

SM1983

[shoemaker]

@ SM1983,

Career wise chart is fine, as karmakaraka Shani is having drishti on 10L Moon in natal chart & in D-10, But some short breaks may be observed as Moon is 3L in navamsa & dasamsa.

From marriage point of view mixed results will be observed coz 7L Mars is deeply combusted so significations of 7H & 2H are affected, But placement of bhagyalord Mercury in 7H will save it to some extent.

I am having Mars also in 8th house. Does it going be like Sun MD?

Mars is going to effect you in relationships(as 7L) & family of spouse(placed in 8H), Mars in 8H is not good sign but being a Maraka planet will not able to harm you much due to combustion.

When ever 8th house dasha operates, does it always will be bad? or it depends up on which planet is situated there.

No 8H is not always bad as believed, there are some exceptions to this house.

1) Planets forming vipareeta rajyoga in 8H give auspicious results
2) 8H is seen for longevity, here slow moving planets do better than fast moving planets.
3) This house is best suited for Saturn coz Shani here becomes total judge & give fruits according to good or bad deeds.
4) Moksha, transformation & Kundalini shakti is seen by this house.

Regards
shoemaker