Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

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Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by Astrothurst » 21 Feb 2012

Hi,

Please tell me the real impact of Bhava chart and difference between rasi and Bhava chart, In my knowledge Bhava Chart tells the exact placement of the planets. (correct me if am wrong)

Example: In a Rasi Chart Venus placed in own sign(Taurus) for leo ascendant its creates Malvya Yoga, when you look in to the Bhava Chart the venus poisted in Aries.

For the above case still the native has the Yoga(Malvya) as per the rashi chart, or he dosn't have that yoga as per Bhava chart.

Needs clarification on this.



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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 03 Mar 2012

Dear AT

Bhav chart is seen for ascertaining whether the rajyogas promised in rashi chart will give full effect of not. Any yoga formed in rashi chart & lost in bhav chart will give only marginal results while those repeatign in bhav chart will give full results.

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by Astrothurst » 07 Mar 2012

Thanks for your explanation Neeraj.

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by subramanianp » 17 Mar 2012

Astrothurst wrote:Hi,

Please tell me the real impact of Bhava chart and difference between rasi and Bhava chart, In my knowledge Bhava Chart tells the exact placement of the planets. (correct me if am wrong)

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Dear Astrothurst
I have studied little differently from what Dr neeraj said.
Let me explain that.please see ,I am not opposing Dr neeraj.
Rasi chart is the first chart what we prepare.
For every planet there are laid down results if positioned in each Rasi.
These are given in almost all classics (ie: RASI BHALAM ).
So once the Rasi chart is prepared you get a clear idea about how a planet is going to behave.
Now come to BHAVA chart.(I hope you know how a bhava chart is prepared)
You might have heard that 5th is the PUTHRA STHANA,10th is the KARMA STHANA,8th is the AYUR STHANA etc:
Once you say this please note that PUTHRA STHANA is not the 5th RASI ,but is the 5th BHAVA
Same way AYUR STHANA is not the 8th RASI but is the 8th BHAVA.
Again KARMA STHANA is not the 10th RASI but is the10th BHAVA.

Hope you are clear.
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by superjunior » 19 Mar 2012

Dear Dr. Neeraj and Subramanium,
If a yoga is shown in rasi chart, and navamsa chart, but placed badly in bhava chart, will it not fructify?
ex:
sept 23 1991
1:29 am,
dallas, Texas, US.
Mithuna lagna.

Using mypanchang website, it says there is gajakesari yoga.
moon in 9th, jupiter in 3rd in rasi chart.
moon and jupiter in 2nd house in navamsa.
not well placed in bhava.

will this gajakesari yoga be felt at all?

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Post by Dr Neeraj » 24 Mar 2012

Dear SJ

I use PL7 software and according to it I get Cancer Asc.
Acc to it 9L Jup aspect 10H & 10L Mars aspect 9H which makles a strong DKA Rajyoga. Moon & Jup are in 1/7 axis making Gaj kesari yoga. IN Bhav chart Moon & Jup are placed in 6/8 axis which reduces the power of this Gajkesari yoga but its reduced results will be there.

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by superjunior » 24 Mar 2012

Dear Dr. Neeraj,
thank you for ur reply..I'm also a little confused about the chart. I was born 1:29 am and do no know the second, the thing is that 30 seconds after the time, the navamsa chart completely changes..so I don't know which is correct..will it really make a big difference between 1:29 am and 1:30 am ?

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Post by Dr Neeraj » 24 Mar 2012

In ur chart, It doesn't matter to change time by few min.
There was perhaps some error on my part as now it comes Gemini lagna with 22-23 deg. In Bhav chart Moon shift to 10H thus reducing the results of Gaj kesari yoga.

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Post by Astrothurst » 09 Apr 2012

Thanks for all learned members...

Subramanain ji if you give a another explanation on the below quote to understand myself clearly means its helpful to me.

"Once you say this please note that PUTHRA STHANA is not the 5th RASI ,but is the 5th BHAVA
Same way AYUR STHANA is not the 8th RASI but is the 8th BHAVA.
Again KARMA STHANA is not the 10th RASI but is the10th BHAVA."

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by subramanianp » 29 Apr 2012

Dear Astrothurst
Calculation for BHAVA is little complicated,because each BHAVA is not equidistant.
However for quick and normal analysis we can do like this.
1. Subtract 15 degree from the Lagna ,You get the starting point of 1st Bhava. Add 15 degree to the Lagna ,You get the the end point of Lagna.
2. Now keep on adding 30degree to get each succeeding BHAVAS.till you reach the 12th Bhava.
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by nehart » 07 May 2012

Dear Dr. Neeraj

Can you please tell me about how my married life will be based on rasi and bhava charts.
I have rahu in 7th gemini in rasi and rahu in 8th capricorn in bhava chart.
I am finding difficulties to get married to the person i love.

Request you to elaborate. According to rasi my married life will be full of difficulties.
My DOB:09/05/1982, 22:00
Place Malad west,mumbai

Many Thanks,
Neha

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 16 May 2012

Dear Neha

Your question is not related to this post. Plz send this again in a new post.

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by charvak » 26 May 2012

So called bhav chart is only to justify events those can not be justified by rashi chart but then there is divisional charts to check,

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by sathya prakash » 12 Mar 2013

Dear Neeraj,
if by bhava changes sun from 12 th house to lagna for a leo ascendant...

effect on sun in 12 th reduces or lagna gets empowered by sun?

(6 th agust 1983 7AM, salem .. 78E 10, 11N39)

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by subramanianp » 27 Mar 2013

Dear sathya prakash
You have asked a genuine doubt.
Situations like this only makes people to keep aside the BHAVA concept.
But it is not good.
I will try to answer your question.It is little complex.i don't know how much you will understand.
Look at the 1st sloka of Chapter 8 of Bhala deepika.
It gives you the BHAVASRAYA BHALA of Sun.
Statrting from "Lagne arko alpa kachaha --------------
-----------------shooro,akshamo,nirghrinaha "

you can attribute to the Sun in this chart.
But in the later part of the sloka you can find "simhe nishandhaha puman".
Dot attribute this quality to the sun,because this condition satisfies only if Lagna is Leo and the sun in also in Leo.
Nishandhaha means night blindness.If you predict the native will suffer from 'night blindness'
then you will go wrong.
But all other factors of the sloka can be considered depending upon the shubha drishty,papayoga etc available in the chart.
This is how you have to handle the situation.
Hope you are clear now.
All the best.
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by GNE » 30 Mar 2013

What about when lagna changes between Rasi and Bhava chart?

And then if all planets didn't move, but since lagna moved, then all planets moved houses.
So any yoga's from planets that were in kendra are no longer, infact almost all yogas would change. ?

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by subramanianp » 30 Mar 2013

Dear GNE
That means you have not understood the concept of arriving a bhava chart.
Lagna never changes in the bhava chart.
The BHAVA is reckoned considering Lagna as the mid point of the 1st BHAVA.
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by GNE » 31 Mar 2013

Thank you for the reply,

But my lagna changes in Bhava Chalit.
I have regularly Cancer Lagna at 1. degree.
in Bhava chalit it shows Gemini lagna, and thus the planets are all in one house forward.

How would I read this?
or am picking the wrong bhava chalit chart to look at? (I use astrosage.com software)

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Post by subramanianp » 31 Mar 2013

There must be an error in the option setting of the software .Please see that.
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by GNE » 31 Mar 2013

I was hoping there would be an error, as I didn't want to lose all my yoga's / placements.

April 15, 1985
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Toronto - Canada
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Even when I use a different site (google'd "free bhava chalit" chart) , it comes up with a gemini lagna, though my rasi is cancer. ....hm...

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by subramanianp » 01 Apr 2013

Try Jagannatha Hora
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by GNE » 01 Apr 2013

Thanks,
I got Jagannatha Hora on my old laptop now,

do I calculate Bhava Chalit from Moon? lagna? or..?

from moon(the default settings), you're right. Now my lagna stays the same, and only 1 planet changes house.

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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by subramanianp » 02 Apr 2013

From lagna you have to calculate.
To the best of my knowledge the default settings is from Lagna and not from Moon.
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Re: Difference between Rasi Chart and Bhava Chart?

Post by amitns » 04 Apr 2013

Dear GNE

You remind me of my former boss who said - get me a consultant who agrees to my point of view! You can get a software that agrees to what u think..

Just joking..

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