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What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 19 Feb 2012

At the outset, I must mention that the views expressed in this post are exclusively my understanding of astrology. I'll request all learned members to analyse them logically and in the context of contemporary meanings of classics. Anything given in classics shd not be taken varbatim rather must be understood in its essence.

Abbreviations:
Nak-Nakshatra

Though in classicals no such term exist as "Vargottam nak" but what i understand from the term Vargottam is that whenever any planet is placed in same rashi in D-1 & in D-9 then it is called vargottam. Now this shd be the property of a pada of nak only, that placing anything in it, that will become vargottam e.g. anything placed in 1st pada of Ashwani will be vargottam. So in total there're 12 such nak padas. They're given following as Nak (its pada)
Ashwani (1) Rohini (2) Punarvasu (3) Punrvasu (4)
P. Falguni (1) Chitra (2) Chitra (3) Anuradha (4)
U.Asd (1) U.asd (2) Shatbhisha (3) Rewati (4)

What exactly is Vargottam?
Though in classics there's no reasoning is mentioned why we take vargottam nak equal to exalted but my opinion is like this:
In universe, everything in energy. Various rashi and nakshtra are actually understood as the manifestation of energy in one channel. Thats why each nak is different and give its own results i.e. same planet placed in the 3 nak of Ketu will give altogether different results. Now whenever a planet is placed in any rashi & nak, there're 2 forces (energy levels) are applicable on it by the lords of the rashi & nak. When the lordship is same, same lord got complete control over it and boost the results, hence it require a special nomenclature which is Vargottam.

But then there're several special cases of Vargottam:
1. Debilitated Planet in vargottam
2. Retrograde planet in vargottam
3. Debilitated & Retrograde planet in vargottam
4. Other specific states like Amrit ghati, Vish ghati, Pushkar navanmsa and vargottam

Author Sumeet Chugh is of the opinion that vargottam effect is lost if a planet is in Rashi sandhi or in debilittaion.
Now out of these 12 nak, 2 are rashi & nak gandant: Rewati (4) & Ashwani (1)
Any planet placed here, though vargottam, will be in rashi sandhi & nak gandant; I doubt seriously whether it'll be able to give gud results e.g. Sat placed in Ashwani (1) will be debilitated in D-1 & D-9 & at the same time it'll be in rashi sandhi; in no manner it can give gud results. Its true that its under same energy level, but here we must remember that the energy level is negative, hence only malefic results shd be there (provided all other things like conjunction, aspect etc. are same).

Then, Punrvasu (3) & Punrvasu (4) and U.Asd (1) & U.Asd (2) as well as Chitra (2) & Chitra (3) are in rashi gandant i.e. any planet placed here will be in rashi sandhi, so somewhat results will be hampered.


Now retro planets have their own story that will be discussed in some other post. But a planet in retro motion & in vargottam will give gud (also eccentric) results. Likewise we need to do research on the various other special cases.

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by rrr1519 » 19 Feb 2012

Dear Dr. Neeraj,

Hello

I am having Moon in vargottama in Revati 4. Is this not effective in its dasha which will start soon for me?

DOB: 16/11/75, TOB: 06:45 AM, POB: Mumbai

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 19 Feb 2012

Dear RRR

I hope you're very much sure about ur TOB as by changing ur TOB by +6 min the lagna changes. So fiest plz be sure about accuracy of TOB.
Your Moon dasha will start from May 2012. For Tula lagna Moon is 10L who's placed in 6H with 6L. In D-9 again Moon is placed in 10H. In D-10, Moon is LL, so it confirms that you'll get results related to significations of 10H (profession is one of them).

Now whatever I've written in my post on Vargottam is subject to modifications to other aspects, conjunction, exchanges etc.
In ur chart, Moon is with 6L Jup making Gaj kesari yoga but Jup being retro denotes some delay in results. Further debilitation of Jup in D-9 reduces strength of this yoga significantly. Both Jup & Moon are aspected by Ven who's Ll & also in Mrityu bhag.
Then in D-9 & D-10, Moon is aspected by 2 retro malefics (making them even more malefic) Sat & Mars. Here Sat is Yog karaka in D-1 but it also the 8L in D-9 & D-10, so it has potential for negative results too.

It will be unwise to say you wont get results. You'll get many & mix results in Moon dasha. However I feel taking Moon like as exalted planet in ur chart will be wrong.

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by krissowmya » 21 Feb 2012

Dr.Neeraj,
Can you comment on my retro ,vargotham Ve , details - 08 Aug 1983 09:25 AM ,Chennai,TN With the imminent Ve MD ,i am little curious .

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 21 Feb 2012

Dear krissowmya

Planet placed in P.Fal (1) is vargottam & since there's no rashi sandhi or nak sandhi, it shd give u gud results.
Here Ven as 2L/9L (the most benefic planet for Virgo lagna) is placed with LL Mer in 12H. Its a great rajyoga as Mer is 10L too so it make Dharam Karam Adhipati (DKA) Rajyoga too. Both are conjunct in D-9 too, though their lordship is little shaded.
So Ven shd give u gud results in its dasha from Nov 2013.

But there's a rider too. Both Ven & Mer are placed in 6H of D-10. Here they're aspected by 6L Sat & 8L Jup. Two benefics in 6H are benefics wasted as soft planets are not gud here. Here Ven is 10L. Further LL of D-10 Sun is debilitated in 3H. Incidently Sun is nak dispositor of Ven. So results of Ven must be modified.

So it seems it'll be a gainful period on personal front (as Ven conjunct LL Mer) but on professional field there may be some challenges.

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by krissowmya » 21 Feb 2012

Thanks ,Dr.Neeraj

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by ranjan.75 » 21 Feb 2012

Dear Neeraj,

If Jupiter in pieces in Gandanta but retro or vergottam, Jupiter produce malefic effect or benefic effect?

Regard / Ranjan DOB: 16-09-1975, Time 02.14.30 AM, Devprayag, Tehri Garhwal, Uttrakhand (30N15 78E36)

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 22 Feb 2012

Dear Ranjan

Jup is vargottam and retro & in rashi & nak gandant at the same time, so its results may not be total benefic. However they're subject to modification by ADs & planets in transit too.
Here you're under the dasha of Jup-Jup-Sat.
Sat is placed in trine to Jup. But transit wise both are passing thru signs having avg or low SAV score. Jup in Aries got 4/26 (Avg) and Sat in Libta got 2/26 (avg). Sat in is 10th from Moon making Sat's 7th place dhaiyya. At the time, Sat is aspecting natal 7L Sat and aspect 7H from Moon. Are you getting results related to ur marital matters?

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Post by aseem82 » 23 Feb 2012

I am having Moon in vargottama in Revati 4. Is this not effective in its dasha which will start soon for me?

DOB: 16/11/75, TOB: 06:45 AM, POB: Mumbai

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Hello Dr Neeraj, as usual a very nice article.

@ RRR,

11th Lord in 1st house- you were born in a good environment and your father may be some distinguished in his profession.

Sometimes you faces problems with seniors but in the end, you overcome them.

10th Lord in 6th house, your service is in government sector/ or engineer in marine or related to water?

You suffer health problems related to respiratory?

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Post by rrr1519 » 23 Feb 2012

Hello Aseem,

You are correct. Born in a good family and father is CA.

Even your comment about overcoming problems with seniors is correct. The seniors had to bow down inevitably because of their misunderstandings. May be 6th lord Jupiter in 6th house as pointed out by Mr. Ramananji in one of his post has something to do with this.

Regarding my profession, completed my CA in May 97. But in Oct 2001 started business of rental of heavy construction machinery (Saturn in 10th house / Rahu) for infra projects. Now I am totally dedicated to this business and quite successful.
Since 6th house and 10th lord in 6th house denotes service, probably you are correct as this business is some sort of service industry unlike trading, manufacturing etc.

I did suffer from depression from 1994 to 2008. The Venus dasha and Sun dasha had its toll on me, both being debilitated. Marriage front suffered heavily.

But never suffered in work related areas. Through hard work and sincerity to my business I progressed very well.

That is why now looking at the Chandra dasha with great hope.

Thank you,
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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Mariposa » 24 Feb 2012

I know I am coming onboard a little far in the game, but since this is such a great topic I thought I would ask...
(and forgive my ignorance) but how important are the lunar asterisms in vargottam planets? I have Saturn debilitated in Leo/PurvaPhalguni 2nd and in navamsa it is vargottam 12th. There is various opinions about debilitated vargottam planets. Some say it eradicates the evil effects, and others say it pronounces them. Which is true? And in my case of varogttam malefic ruled by Venus nakshatra - does this affect the results?

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Post by Dr Neeraj » 25 Feb 2012

Dear Mariposa

You mentioned ur Sat is debilitated in Leo & P.Phal but Sat is debilitated in Aries sign.
Can u share ur birth details 9if comfortable)

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Anjaneya » 25 Feb 2012

Dr. Neeraj,

Does Pushkar Navamsa and vargottam is even better? There are a few Pada, where in planet is vargottam and PN too. Please let me know your views?

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 25 Feb 2012

Certainly its better

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Post by aseem82 » 25 Feb 2012

Hello Aseem,

You are correct. Born in a good family and father is CA.

Even your comment about overcoming problems with seniors is correct. The seniors had to bow down inevitably because of their misunderstandings. May be 6th lord Jupiter in 6th house as pointed out by Mr. Ramananji in one of his post has something to do with this.

Regarding my profession, completed my CA in May 97. But in Oct 2001 started business of rental of heavy construction machinery (Saturn in 10th house / Rahu) for infra projects. Now I am totally dedicated to this business and quite successful.
Since 6th house and 10th lord in 6th house denotes service, probably you are correct as this business is some sort of service industry unlike trading, manufacturing etc.

I did suffer from depression from 1994 to 2008. The Venus dasha and Sun dasha had its toll on me, both being debilitated. Marriage front suffered heavily.

But never suffered in work related areas. Through hard work and sincerity to my business I progressed very well.

That is why now looking at the Chandra dasha with great hope.


11th Lord in 1st house also enable a person to annihilate his enemies. Yes, Lord Saturn also denotes construction and aspecting his own house in 4th house denotes construction connected to steel, buildings and so on. It also denote re-construction of old or dilapidated infra or property.

Your observation on service is well explained.

Yes Venus in 12th house gives problems related to urinary, diabetes, thyroid, eye but 8th lord debilitated in 12th house also gives virpreet Rajyoga, so may have enjoyed sudden monetary gains in Venus period.

Yes Lord Sun is afflicted by malefic, but still as 11th Lord will give you gains through father.


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Post by Govindaram » 27 Feb 2012

Hi Neeraj,

My Ascendant is vargottama (taurus) and other planets Mars, raahu and kethu are also in vargotama?

all are malefics, what can you predict ?is it good or bad

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 27 Feb 2012

Dear Govind

The prediction need complete chart as I'm not able to figure out PAC relationship with other planets.
Can u share ur birth details?

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Post by Govindaram » 27 Feb 2012

Date of Birth:22.07.1986
Time of Birth:2.25am

Place :Mayialduthurai aka Mayuram in Tamilnadu

I use Vaakhya so it shows Mars in exalted position. i dont know what software do you use. So predict according to your software especially how it affects my professional carreer bcos iam experiencing bad time in my career.

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 27 Feb 2012

Dear Govindram

I use PL7.
Yes ur lagna is vargottam. It is aspecetd by YK Sat (though retro).
Ur present dasha is Rahu-Mer-Rahu

Rahu is agian vargottam but in rashi sandhi. In 12H Rahu gives

expenditures, success in far away places. Since Rahu is in rashi as

well as Nak gandant, its bnefic results (whatever results) will be

mitigated.

AD Lord Mer is 2L/5L and shd give gud results but its combust. Though

its exalted in D-9 but from 10H, Mer is 8L posited in 6H. So some

results as competiton, politics etc. related to profession may be

expected.

Transit wise Rahu is moving towards 10L Sat. in Mid Jul;y Rahu will

transit on the deg of 10L Sat. This must be the period for watch as at

that time u'll be under the PD of 8L Jup posited in 10H. So some

results rekated to career can be there.

God bless you
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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Govindaram » 27 Feb 2012

Thanks Neeraj,

Can i expect good results on the part of my partnership business? Can i get a change in my job or any chance of improvement in my financials?

This is the thing i want to know desparately!

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by karmatrix » 28 Feb 2012

Dr Neeraj wrote:Ashwani (1) Rohini (2) Punarvasu (3) Punrvasu (4)
P. Falguni (1) Chitra (2) Chitra (3) Anuradha (4)
U.Asd (1) U.asd (2) Shatbhisha (3) Rewati (4)
Dear Neeraj ji,

I think, I am getting a little confused here. Are we suggesting that any planet placed in the above "nakshatra with the particular pada" in any given chart (not both D1 and D9?) becomes Vargottam?

Like I have 2 vargottam planets.

Sun in Aquarius: Satabhisha (3) in D1 / Satabhisha (4) in D9
Venus in Capricorn: Uttarashadha (2) in D1 / Sravana (3) in D9

My Sun in Satabhisha (3), according to the list above, I believe, qualifies as Vargottam. But what I am trying to ask is, is this Vargottam status valid irrespective of Sun's different nakshatra pada in D9? Also, is Venus not Vargottam?

Would like to have your comments on the same.

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 29 Feb 2012

Dear Sir

Sun in Shatbhisha(3) means it insn in Aquarius sign within deg of 16deg 40 min to 20 deg. So it comes in 5th navamsa. By calculating its sign in D-9 , it comes out as Aquarius, hence it is vargottam.

Plz clarify the meaning of Satabhisha (3) in D1 / Satabhisha (4) in D9??

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Post by karmatrix » 29 Feb 2012

Dr Neeraj wrote:Dear Sir

Sun in Shatbhisha(3) means it insn in Aquarius sign within deg of 16deg 40 min to 20 deg. So it comes in 5th navamsa. By calculating its sign in D-9 , it comes out as Aquarius, hence it is vargottam.

Plz clarify the meaning of Satabhisha (3) in D1 / Satabhisha (4) in D9??

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Neeraj ji,

By Satabhisha (3) I meant, Sun in Aquarius, Nakshatra: Satabhisha in 3rd pada in the Rashi chart.
Satabhisha (4) is Sun in Aquarius but in Satabhisha's 4th pada in the Navamsa.

Many thanks.

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Dr Neeraj » 01 Mar 2012

Dear Sir

There seems to be a confusion in navamsa & pada, Can u share deg of ur Sun?

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Re: What actually is Vargottam?

Post by Mariposa » 01 Mar 2012

Dear Neeraj,

My details are: June 22 1979 @ 7:56 am. San Giovanni Rotondo, Italy

I am 100% certain about my placements however, any insight you can offer would will be deeply appreciated.

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