What actually is Vargottam?

[Dr Neeraj]

Hi Neeraj,
DOB: 6/Sept/1968 Time: 3.40 AM Place: Chennai.

Dear Sunder
I dnt believe in debilitated planets as vargottam. Sat is very weak as its just outside gandant, debi in D-1 & D-9, have low strength in Vinshopak bala, its dispositor Mars is again debilitated. Still believing it will give results equal to that of a vargottam planet does not seem logical to me. However this is my personal opinion which may not be supported by classics and hence may be wrong too.
But plz note I'm not saying that Sat will give bad results. Actually it will give some unpredictable & eccentric results as its retro as well as 8L (suddenness).
Now let me share some different perspective. Sat got SAV score of 4/30 (above avg) and in D-9 this score is 3/26. The in bhava chart Sat moves to previous house, hence may not give bad results as one may guess.
The next AD lord Mars (From Jan 2014 to Feb 2015) is superman of ur chart. Above avg bala in Shadbala as well as Vimshopak bala and its SAV score is 7/37 (amazing) and in D-9 its 6/39 (amazing again). So despite its debilitation I expect it to give the results of ur Yogkaraka.

Checking from Jamini dasha:
Dasha in 2014: Sagittarius-Gemini
Both Sagi & Gemini are aspected by MK Mer and PK Ven. Since both of them are in ur 10H hence u may get the results of ur kids career.
Later in Sept 2014, the AD of Taurus is aspected by AK Mars, so again this shd give u good results.

God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

Dob : April 22, 1976. 11.07 pm, Ahmadabad Gujarat.

Dear ssid
Your chart is very happening.
There are 2 exchanges and it is said that planets in exchange gives dasha of their dispositor.
Here Sat is 2L (maraka) and placed in 8H (maraka). It is extremely weak in Vimshopaka bala 5.8/20
In SAV score again it is weak with 1/23 points.
Transit wise at the time of dasha pravesh Sat will be in Prayatak tara which generallt dnt give gud results.
So I'm not expecting very good results in inital years of Sat dasha.
God bless you
Neeraj

[saditya86]

Hi Neeraj

I have Saturn Vargottam.

Pls guide ho w to study its effects.

09 May 1986
10:01 AM Nasik

[Indianlearner]

How does Vargottam Lagna behave ? What is such a lagnesh is retrograde? Also if say Saturn is Vargottam in D10 does that mean Sade sati is less severe career wise for this native?

Please help analyse this chart and guide on above 2 questions . Thank you :

Dob: 27 June 1972
Time: 20:00
Place: Jabalpur

[astrolight99]

Dear Neeraj

In Gandanta Nak what is the area of the star that is more sensitive. Venus in 1 degree in Sagittarius, whether it will have gandanta dosha in its MD/AD.

regards

[amitns]

Hello Neeraj

My Jupiter is vargottam, but retro and in Mrityu bhag. Will it give good results? Guru MD has been mixed.

24 Oct 1974, Thane Maharashtra , 15:12 PM

Amit

[Dr Neeraj]

I have Saturn Vargottam.
Pls guide ho w to study its effects.

Dear Aditya
You've vargottam retro Sat who is 8L/9L for Gemini lagna hence it'll give you mixed results but slightly more towards negative.
The reasons are as under:
1. Since in retro motion it is moving towards its exaltation point, its results will be gud. It is vargottam (this is gud) but in enemy sign (not so gud).
2. But this Sat is associated with 6H in natal chart & 8H in D-9; which indicates some problems and obstacles.
3. Sat is in 8H from Sun, Moon & LL Mer; Also in 8H in D-9, which is not a gud indicator.
4. Sat is also in 8H from MDL Rahu.
5. Sat is Jamini GK, karaka for problems are obstacles.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

I have 4planets vargottama. Ven, rah, ket, and sun. My jup and mer are vargottama in almost all the div charts. Pls take a look and let me know what you think.

Dear Sushma
My understanding is that Vargottam status of a planet is lost when it is combust, debilitated or in rashi sandhi.
In ur chart Rahu & Ven is within 2 deg of Sun, hence almost total combust; so I doubt about their vargottam status.
Jup & Mer are not vargottam as they are in different navamsa. Though they are in Leo sign in max charts but vargottam is about D-1 & D-9. Sun, no doubt is vargottam and one of the best planet for ur chart. You'll have its MD from Mar 2018 and this shd be one of the best time of ur life.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

How does Vargottam Lagna behave?

Dear IL
Vargottam lagna is very gud.

What is such a lagnesh is retrograde?

In ur chart, Jup in retro motion is going away from its debilitation point, hence it is gud.

Also if say Saturn is Vargottam in D10 does that mean Sade sati is less severe career wise for this native?

Sat is not vargottam in ur chart.
Moreover retro motion of Sat has nothing to do with Sadhe satti.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

In Gandanta Nak what is the area of the star that is more sensitive. Venus in 1 degree in Sagittarius, whether it will have gandanta dosha in its MD/AD.

Dear AL
Dear Sushma
My understanding is that Vargottam status of a planet is lost when it is combust, debilitated or in rashi sandhi/gandant.
Such a planet will give average results (Not very gud as expected of vargottam)
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

My Jupiter is vargottam, but retro and in Mrityu bhag. Will it give good results? Guru MD has been mixed.

Dear Amit
My understandingabout retro planet is:
A planet in direct motion or in retro motion, moving towards its exaltation point will give gud results and vice versa.

In ur chart though Jup is vargottam but in retro motion it is going towards its debilitation point hence it'll not give gud results.
Hence it'll give you mixed results.
God bless you
Neeraj

[neelkumar]

As per my experience there is no meaning of vargottam for a debi planet as its weak in both charts.
However if ever it will give gud results that will be only after a lot of struggle and may be when its meaning is lost to the native.
God bless you
Neeraj

Dr. Neeraj,

I think you could correlate with my Jupiter - retro, debi and in enemy Aquarius Lagna. Hence the poor effects since Guru Mahadasha start..
Am I correct?

Thanks,
Neel

P.S. Though according to this article(http://www.vedicforum.com/articles-and- ... de-grahas/), my Chestha Rashmi of retro-Jupiter is: 13.49 (and..The maximum Chestha bala a retrograde Graha can earn is 14)

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Neel
You Jup is in retro in Aquarius at 20-18 so its going away from its debilitation point.
So this shd not give u bad results.
However plz note there are multiple influences on this Jup. It is aspected by 7L Sun, 8L Mer and 3L/10L Mars.

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Neel
You Jup is in retro in Aquarius at 20-18 so its going away from its debilitation point.
So this shd not give u bad results.
However plz note there are multiple influences on this Jup. It is aspected by 7L Sun, 8L Mer and 3L/10L Mars.
So Jup shall give you mixed results.
From Sept 24, 2015 onwards you'll get AD of Mer who's debi in D-10 and this time generally results in facing opposition/struggle/obstacles in career and feeling like being victim of politics in work place.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Neel
You Jup is in retro in Aquarius at 20-18 so its going away from its debilitation point.
So this shd not give u bad results.
However plz note there are multiple influences on this Jup. It is aspected by 7L Sun, 8L Mer and 3L/10L Mars.
So Jup shall give you mixed results.
From Sept 24, 2015 onwards you'll get AD of Mer who's debi in D-10 and this time generally results in facing opposition/struggle/obstacles in career and feeling like being victim of politics in work place.
God bless you
Neeraj

[neelkumar]

Dear Neel
You Jup is in retro in Aquarius at 20-18 so its going away from its debilitation point.
So this shd not give u bad results.
However plz note there are multiple influences on this Jup. It is aspected by 7L Sun, 8L Mer and 3L/10L Mars.
So Jup shall give you mixed results.
From Sept 24, 2015 onwards you'll get AD of Mer who's debi in D-10 and this time generally results in facing opposition/struggle/obstacles in career and feeling like being victim of politics in work place.
God bless you
Neeraj

Oh..Dr. Neeraj,
So no respite still with the upcoming Jup-Mer Dasha?
I was very hopeful - because I usually feel light and happy during Mercury periods.

Dr. Neeraj, tell me please, according to one astrologer, my job chances could improve from early (Jan or Feb) 2016. Can you perhaps second that?

Thanks again,
Neel

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Neel
Dispositor of debi Mer is Jup who's posited in Lagna of D-10 so technically its neechbhang.
But since this Mer is aspected by 6K Sat from 6H so I felt like it may give you some troubles.
But you shd give more weightage to ur experience than my observations.

In Jan the PD will be of Ketu who's posited in Lagna of D-10 and this may give you gud results related to career.
God bless you
Neeraj

[neelkumar]

Thanks Dr. Neeraj for your inputs.
Appreciate your efforts.

Best regards
Neel

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear PB
Sat is vargottam and is in exchange with the 7L/12L Mars.
So you will get results of the Mars too.
This Sat is YK and placed in its mool trikona sign in D-10 hence I feel this shd be a gud time for you.
God bless you
Neeraj

[powerboss]

Many thanks for your analysis Dr.Neeraj Sir.

[hope&faith]

What is the significance when the lagna and the lagna lord is vargottama & bhavottama.

For eg. for a Libra ascendant what is the significance when Libra lagna is vargottama and venus is vargottama & bhavottama in rasi and navamsa charts.

[k123a]

I have a similar question to the poster above.
I have 3 vargottama planets - Mercury, Venus and Moon. Considering how mercury is less than 1 degree, you do not consider it to be vargottama. However, I have experienced a positive change during the start of my Mercury MD. Perhaps this has more to do with the fact that I was getting over with the Saturn MD. Your thoughts?

Also, what if you have moon vargottama (like in my case). I mean, if you have moon vargottama and when looking at the rashi chart from moon, if you have other vargottama planets (other than moon), they become bhav-vargottama as well. Is this logic correct? Also, if moon is vargottama, does that mean you should be giving more preference to the planets from moon rather than the ascendant when analyzing the D-1 rashi chart? Should the reading be favored from moon rather than ascendant in such cases..

Also, if you can explain the implication of 2 vargottama aspecting each other - moon and venus which is retro. My take is although it is auspicious it makes you struggle (since both the planets will exert equal strength towards those house themes and their aspects).

Your thoughts?

Details: Feb 7, 1990
Time: 22:25
Place: 23.03° N, 72.58° E

Thank you!

[Dr Neeraj]

What is the significance when the lagna and the lagna lord is vargottama & bhavottama.

Dear h&f
Every sign consist of 30 deg and it is further divided into 9 navamsa of 3 deg 20 min each.
So when we call 2H in D-9, it does not have the same meaning as that of D-1.
So Bhavottam is not same as Vargottam.

In this post, I've mentioned that Vargottam is actually some particular degrees in every sign where the same lordship for that rashi & navamsa.

Now ur question, Whenever LL is Vargottam, it become strong and in its dasha it shd give gud results.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear k123a
In Astrology, Experience is sometimes more important than the academic concepts.
I think one shd go with his/her experience.
Academics tells us that any planet within 1 deg is weak coz of rahi or nak gandant. But there are many signs where planets become vargottam in these starting degrees. So by experience we shd take whether a planet is giving gud or bad results.

Secondly, there is one school of thought who consider vimshottari dasha from Moon (Remember Vim dasha is calculated from the deg of Moon). Classics says here that one shd ascertain who's stronger-Lagna or Moon and then analyse from the stronger.

I've seen many cases where the results were tallying from Moon and not as much from Lagna. So your point is very valid and by experience we shd consider analysing from Lagna or Moon.

Regarding aspect of Vargottam planet, my point of view is that the aspects shd be considered like any other planet's aspect. Lordship of the planets aspecting & their natural signification shd be considered. Vargottam stats may not give any extra results in aspect.

God bless you