नमः शिवाय!
hari766 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
When a person doesn't shirk his karma but continues doing karma with nishkama bhava, ie absolute detachment to the results, in the course of time his mind becomes purified and then God grants him "buddhi yoga" or divine inspiration. This enables him to transcend prarabdha karma and leads him to "moksha" at the end.
Hari Ji
Observe carefully, how he does Nishkaama Karma, he does only if that Karma is predestined, only then he can do. If It's not predestined how could he perform such act at all? Why the thoughts will come? Performing something is a thought & to do / perform that act his Vaasanaas are still acting on the person! But this isn't freewill, since he does only if it is predestined!
Vivek Surya wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
Yes we can only if it is written in fate i.e., if it is predetermined! We can't if our Vaasanaas aren't eligible!
hari766 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
No, the grace of God is beyond any/all vasanas. That is why, even after self-realization, some saints might continue to display the effect of vasanas. In the Gita, there's a sloka like this. (paraphrased). The realized soul may kill crores of people, but still he doesn't incur sin, as his mind is with Brahman. The point is, all vasanas need not be exhausted before the attainment of realization.
Grace of God is what which comes from horoscope! (I meant in the form of Graha positions at time of birth) To get grace he perform some act, the act is certainly predestined, if his Vaasanaas are eligible, he will have grace! 1st of all Aashirvaadam of God is there on every creature! So, there's no special. If something has to change or become mature or for anything transition of Grahaas will answer.
Vivek Surya wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
How can a person learn or attain or do something if his Vaasanaas aren't eligible to undergo that Karma! Everything happens due to solid reason! Not just randomly!
hari766 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
But Moksha is not karma-related I repeat, the world of vasanas-karma-graha forces-astrology is just the tip of the iceberg in the Brahmic ocean.
If a person is destined to attain siddhi, he'll. Since the yoga will certainly be in his horoscope. One cannot attain Siddhi if his horoscope isn't eligible to attain! How can he randomly get something when his Vaasanaas are still there?! If you say, It's his will! Then the WILL will also be in his horoscope.
hari766 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
This is why, imo, certain things can never be entirely predicted using the set rules of astrology.
I completely agree, but if Astrologers horoscope is eligible to understand, He can predict like Mihira (popularly known as Varaahamihira). It's hard if his horoscope is not eligible. As simple as such!
hari766 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
The real number system is a simplification of the complex number system. Real-number laws like the law of trichotomy cannot explain or solve all problems, because essentially numbers are "complex" in nature.
This is correct only!
hari766 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018
the true nature of a human being and his relation with God transcends the karma-graha level of astrology, eventhough it still works well to a large extent.
If there is relation, relationship with God (like how far we are with inner soul) has to be in one's horoscope!
Yes, Astrology still works by Desha-Kaala-Paatra!
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