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Post by marian i. » 22 Nov 2016

Hi,

I want to rectify your chart, thus I started this thread (I hope that you don't mind). Because I read some of your posts about your t.o.b., the rectification is already done, but I want to explain why the time found by me is the real one.

Thus, to be truthful to the science, I must ask you some questions:

1. You are a male of female (you did not say this)?
2. You have brother/sisters?
3. When you began your primary school days and your college days?
4. What was the field of that education of yours?
5. What is the main occupation or job of yours?
6. If your grandparents are dead, tell me the time of they demise (Like this: my grandfather from mother side died at such and such date etc.);
7. You had some relationship/ you are married/ have children etc.

P.S. You are born April 15, 1985, 10:56 (around this time), in Toronto, Canada?

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Post by GNE » 26 Nov 2016

Hi, I just found this now.
Thank you very much for posting/ sharing. I don't mind that you started the thread. :)

I am very interested in hear your opinion regarding my time. Thank you very much once again.

Yes I was born april 15, 1985, around 11am (could be from like 10:53 - 11:06 or so max.) , in toronto/Ontario , Canada.

to answer your questions:

1 - I am male

2 - No brother/sisters, only child. (+ mother had 3 miscarriages before me)

3 - I began primary school in 1988, high school 1999 , college sept 2003 - but then withdrew/dropped out early Dec.
(it was fine art/painting college...I left to pursue film/my own career instead)

4. so main field of education was visual arts, then self taugh in Filmmaking + took some workshops (weekend courses...I dont even remember the date, it was scattered..like 2 days in Oct 2005, then 2 days in May 2006...etc.)

5. I have never had a "regular job" for anyone except helping my uncle at his warehouse various summers in 2005, 2006.
My main occupation has been film editing / camera work (videography for people's events). I am self employed (Ie: don't work under someone's company) and all jobs have been found through friend/family or friend of friends only.
I have however not worked since around 2013 (only did one brief job in there...I dont even remember when, and it lasted 1 day only). But I consider myself out of work since 2013...
I have money/support from parents + savings. (I am very good at saving, and have mutual fund account and just withdraw interest from it every few months and live off that.... granted I have not been able to spend much and live within my means and don't buy much).
I stopped work, to pursue my own screenwriting and filmmaking....but has been taking longer than planmed (mostly thanks to astrology obsession in 2013-14 especially. and Issues with friends(who were my teammates in filmmaking) throughout 2012-start of 2015). ....you can say those years have been "the worst" in my life so far (however not too bad). Best year for success was 2007-2009, Especially from May 2007 until Dec 2007.
Then another big success boost was August 2010 until Dec 2010 again.

6. Grandmother's are both alive. And both grandfather's passed away. ...I do not remember exact years...I will have to ask parents then edit this post and let you know. (parents not home right now to ask)
It was 1991 or 1992 for sure...
my mother's-father passed first, then a few years later fathers'-father, around 1999 or so.
Both passed in the month of November.

7. not really any relationship...closest was a work/dating relationship from Feb 2009 until end of Dec 2010.
But wasn't very "romantic" or anything special
And I have no children / no married.
For the longest time (my whole life until around 2008) I never even cared for dating or sex or anything like that.

I just shared a bit more incase it helps the rectification.

I will add health-wise.... I have never needed any hospital/surgery , no major issues, but I do suffer from eczema(dry/scab-like skin), primarily on the back of my hands, and sometimes on arm or elbow.
This started in 2003-4 and never truly went away still.

also that I was born premature and very small (3 pound only), originally was due the end of May.
But my birth had no complications, and I apparently grew very fast and was the healthiest/strongest premie baby in the hospital ward, they let me go home sooner than planned. My mother also says labor was quick and not painful. (her water broke around 5:45-6am...)
My Father was present at my birth, in the room with mother.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

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Post by GNE » 26 Nov 2016

I feel it might help if I add my parents profession :

both parents are retired now,
Mother was a Teacher of grade school (grade 8 for most of her career) Gifted children. Children with higher IQ's, that have to pass an intelligence test to get into her class. She is also very religious and now in retirement serves at the local church/group 3 nights a week.

My father is not religious at all, and he was a Film Industry post production worker (in a field called "Color timing / Color correction ....basically manipulate image quality and effects).

both parents married in 1979, still are together. Peaceful and never fighting or anything, my homelife with them is very peaceful and no major ups and downs.
Just thought I'd add this, incase it helps to make it easier for you / whoever is reading this. :)

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Post by marian i. » 27 Nov 2016

Hi,

I want to make a thoroughly rectification, not a quick one. Thus, you will be convinced.

1. No brothers. AL is in Virgo. Because is an even sign, we count in reverse. The 11th house (elder brothers) from AL (reverse- even sign) is in Scorpio, occupied by Saturn. This denies any elder brother. The 3nd house (younger brothers) from AL (reverse- even sign) is in Cancer, unoccupied, whose Lord is Moon placed in Saturn's sign. Only Saturn aspects by Rasi Drishti that 3nd house from AL. This shows that you do not have any elder or younger brother/ sister.

2. Now, the 4th house shows the mother. For Gemini Lagna, the 4th house is in Virgo. The 10th house from Virgo is in Gemini, whose lord, Mercury, is with Venus. Venus is a teacher, Guru. Thus, this shows the career of your mother. The 9th house shows the father. That house is in Aquarius. If we take again that sign as Lagna of father, the 10th house is in Scorpio, whose lords are Mars and Ketu. Ketu is in Libra, ruled by Venus, which shows also the film industry, images etc. Mars is in Aries, and shows some machinery/ computer etc. in the field of work. This shows the career of your father.


This is Narayana Dasa:
Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Maha Dasas:

Ge: 1985-04-15 (10:55:15 am) - 1993-04-15 (12:15:04 pm)
Aq: 1993-04-15 (12:15:04 pm) - 2003-04-16 (1:38:11 am)
Li: 2003-04-16 (1:38:11 am) - 2009-04-15 (2:37:36 pm)
Vi: 2009-04-15 (2:37:36 pm) - 2014-04-15 (9:27:38 pm)
Ta: 2014-04-15 (9:27:38 pm) - 2025-04-15 (5:12:07 pm)
Cp: 2025-04-15 (5:12:07 pm) - 2027-04-16 (5:18:20 am)
Sg: 2027-04-16 (5:18:20 am) - 2027-04-16 (5:18:20 am)
Le: 2027-04-16 (5:18:20 am) - 2032-04-15 (11:59:18 am)
Ar: 2032-04-15 (11:59:18 am) - 2044-04-15 (1:54:27 pm)
Pi: 2044-04-15 (1:54:27 pm) - 2045-04-15 (8:06:09 pm)
Sc: 2045-04-15 (8:06:09 pm) - 2050-04-16 (3:00:13 am)
Cn: 2050-04-16 (3:00:13 am) - 2055-04-16 (9:37:18 am)
Ge: 2055-04-16 (9:37:18 am) - 2059-04-16 (10:11:36 am)
Aq: 2059-04-16 (10:11:36 am) - 2061-04-15 (10:43:01 pm)
Li: 2061-04-15 (10:43:01 pm) - 2067-04-16 (11:17:40 am)
Vi: 2067-04-16 (11:17:40 am) - 2074-04-16 (6:41:01 am)

3. You began the primary school in 1988, in Gemini Dasa. This is Lagna, occupied by A4 (arudha for 4th house) and Mercury aspects both Gemini and 4th house, by Rasi Drishti. You began the college in Libra Dasa, in 2003. This sign aspects by Rasi Drishti the 9th house from Lagna/ AL. The 9th house shows the college level. Take Libra as Lagna. Venus is togheter with the 9th lord there from, Mercury.

You have for sure Gemini Lagna. Many more messages will follow in this thread to show that. This is just a small beginning.


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Post by marian i. » 27 Nov 2016

Hi,

Thus, in Rasi Chart your Lagna is in Gemini.
1.In Navamsa your Lagna is again in Gemini (in Vargottama). Jupiter occupies Lagna in Navamsa. Dictum: malefics in Navamsa Lagna shows a painful birth, and benefics in Navamsa Lagna shows painless/ easy birth (of the native). Now, for Taurus Lagna, Ketu is in this sign. For Cancer Lagna, Saturn is in this sign. Thus, your easy birth is shows by Navamsa Lagna in Gemini, with Jupiter. Mercury is in the 5th house in Navamsa, as Navamsa Lagna lord. This shows independent job. Mercury is karaka for business/ independent job etc.

2. That relationship was between feb 2009 and dec 2010. That came in Jupiter Dasa, Venus Antardasa, in this Dasa:

Sataabdika dasa (applicable if lagna is in vargottama):

Maha Dasas:

Merc: 1981-03-01 (2:34:17 am) - 1991-03-01 (4:10:20 pm)
Jup: 1991-03-01 (4:10:20 pm) - 2011-03-01 (7:14:19 pm)
Mars: 2011-03-01 (7:14:19 pm) - 2031-03-01 (10:12:36 pm)
Sat: 2031-03-01 (10:12:36 pm) - 2061-03-01 (2:55:28 pm)
Sun: 2061-03-01 (2:55:28 pm) - 2066-03-01 (9:39:03 pm)
Moon: 2066-03-01 (9:39:03 pm) - 2071-03-02 (4:33:53 am)
Ven: 2071-03-02 (4:33:53 am) - 2081-03-01 (6:03:12 pm)

In Rasi Chart, Jupiter is the 7th lord (1st relationship) placed in UL (marriage/ relationship/ 1st one). In Navamsa Jupiter is the 7th lord placed in Lagna (the partner came). Jupiter in Navamsa Lagna shows the beginning of this chapter in your life (Lagna= beginning). This is so, even if was not a very big deal that relationships.


3. In Rasi chart for Gemini Lagna,the 7th house is badhaka house, thus Jupiter is badhakesha. Now, we must look in Navamsa, at the Rasi ocupied by Jupiter: that is Gemini.
"Gemini Navamsa indicates troubles like itches, skin infections and over weight problems" (Jaimini Sutras 1.2.4).
If a bad planet like badhakesha sits in Gemini or Virgo in Navamsa the native will have skin problems/ diseases.

Thus, Rasi and Navamsa are rectified. I will come back later to these charts, but now I will do the rest of rectification.


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Post by GNE » 27 Nov 2016

Hi,
Marian, Thank you very much for the wonderful rectification and all the time you took on it. I understand how long things can sometimes take, and so I am very appreciative.
Glad to hear you also feel my lagna is gemini. As this is what my intuition felt for myself... but of course I had trouble proving it and convincing myself (especially when every 2nd astrologer would tell me they think I'm cancer rising. but they never explain why besides "you are in film and rahu is in 10" or something basic. )

I am glad you said there may still be more messages.... since I would love to 100% without question be convinced about my lagna - but so far, so good !
The reasoning you gave was convincing, and eye-opening.

some points I'll focus on reply about:

- Venus being teacher, a guru and connected to 4th lord (also aspecting 4th) made sense, and great rectification of my father from 9th house (what you said about his career), very fitting.

-Interesting going reverse using AL because it's an even sign. I never thought to take scorpio as 11th house (so then It also means things like, I have mars/rahu/sun in 6 from AL, not 8th as I once thought? etc.) I remember reading this concept somewhere online but thought it meant something different. This was an eye opener, thank you !
(also, I read ketu in 2nd from AL can give premature aging, correct? This was not true for me as I still look at least 3-5 years younger than my age 31, but now using the technique you showed, it finally makes sense! ketu is in 12th from AL)

-Beautiful use of Narayan dasha. I always ignored that dasha because of not trusting my birthtime ...

-Thank you for explaining how Jupiter in navamsa lagna influences my birth. I always felt saturn in cancer lagna didn't make sense to me since my birth was fast and painless on mother. But I had no classic text or guru to confirm to me that this was actually something that mattered (planet in navamsa lagna influencing birth scenerio).

- The Sataabdika dasa use again impressed me, I wondered about using it myself but ignored since it seems 95% of astrologers only use vimshottari. Thank you, and it really did fit my relationship event as you said.

-Love the use of a classic text quote regarding my skin troubles. Thank you.
I notice the dictum also mentions over weight problem, do you think this could be applied liberally to just mean weight problem but not "over-weight"? Because I am thin, and for longest time I had trouble gaining weight and was self conscious about being thin (up until around age 25 ish I accepte it and stopped caring... then from age 29-to now I managed to gained and keep on some weight, but am still a thin person, Overall just average slim build.)

-My only wonder now is if a different ayanamsa, like Fagan (which I've come across many who use...) works, and if my venus is in libra or scorpio navamsa. (it switchs between ayanamsa).
I trust Lahiri enough, but is it too much to ask if you can give a brief explanation of what Venus in scorpio navamsa in my chart would cause for the native (I suppose then, you can mention also how it's in 6 with rahu) ? I mean, what it would do to me outside of relationships / my personality (since I am not married, so cannot judge how it effects my wife)
?



Thank you, and looking forward to the rest of the rectification (I suppose, getting it down to which minute...10:53..54..55...56...)

I just wanted to reply to know your work is appreciated so far.
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Post by marian i. » 28 Nov 2016

Hi,

That technique of taking the house which shows some relative as Lagna and read the chart is given in Nadi but also even Parasara and others talks about it. It can be use in rectification, but not without looking at the D-12 for parents and so on. It can be a tricky tool. For your mother, Virgo is Lagna (4th house), and Mercury, the 10th lord for Virgo, is with Venus to show a career as a teacher.

Arudha Lagna. For every native, we take AL as Lagna and we look at the houses in normal counting, even if the said AL is in an even Sign. We look in reverse based on even/ odd only for co- borns. Thus, you have Ketu in 2nd house from AL, but because AL is empty and 7th from AL is with 2 planets, as per some, we must take not AL in Virgo but that 7th from it as AL. This is not given as a rule in some texts, but only indirectly we can understand that we must use this rule. It can be a very long discussion this issue, thus I think that we may put aside this for now.

Sataabdika Dasa. Yes, many astrologers use only Vimsattori Dasa, and that also without variations, like that of Lagna as a start if more planets are in a kendra from Lagna than from kendra from Moon. What to do? Some are so obstinately against more learning that I am speechless. Also about Rasi Drishti. But both issues form 2 separate chapters in BPHS of Parashara, but amazingly, they skip that 2 chapters always when they read that book :) .
From 2011 to 2031 you are in Mars dasa in Sataabdika dasa. Mars is your AK planet, the king of the chart as per Parashara etc. Mars is in his Mulatrikona Sign in 11th house. This shows astrology- is the 4th (learning) from the 8th house (occult, astrology etc.), and from this you have that nice thirst to learn astrology.

Weight problem. That combination of Badhaka planet in Gemini/ Virgo gives skin problems, but also weight problems, thus under or over weight problems (this from my experience with charts). Thus, both problems with weight can be seen.

Ayanamsa. For me, Lahiri Ayanamsa is the best Ayanamsa. But I did not tried many other Ayanamsas, because I follow those astrologers which are authorities for me. I think that I save time with this approach, because I am sure that they are more intelligent than me, at least astrologically. Your Venus in 6th in Navamsa is a bad placement for karaka Venus, and fits your status as a celibate. Venus in Scorpio or Aries is bad, but your Venus is retrograde thus is as if it is in Taurus in Navamsa.


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Post by marian i. » 28 Nov 2016

Hi,

Let's verify again Navamsa.
We can use Narayana Dasa in Navamsa also, calculated for that chart. Your Narayana Dasa in Navamsa starts from Scorpio, the rasi in Navamsa occupied by Rahu, the 9th lord in Rasi Chart (the seed house):

Narayana Dasa of D-9 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Maha Dasas:

Sc: 1985-04-15 (10:55:15 am) - 1986-04-15 (5:02:02 pm)
Ge: 1986-04-15 (5:02:02 pm) - 1990-04-15 (5:48:05 pm)
Cp: 1990-04-15 (5:48:05 pm) - 1996-04-15 (6:33:37 am)
Le: 1996-04-15 (6:33:37 am) - 2001-04-15 (1:32:25 pm)
Pi: 2001-04-15 (1:32:25 pm) - 2010-04-15 (8:46:23 pm)
Li: 2010-04-15 (8:46:23 pm) - 2011-04-16 (2:51:04 am)
Ta: 2011-04-16 (2:51:04 am) - 2017-04-15 (3:54:60 pm)
Sg: 2017-04-15 (3:54:60 pm) - 2023-04-16 (4:47:53 am)
Cn: 2023-04-16 (4:47:53 am) - 2029-04-15 (5:42:46 pm)
Aq: 2029-04-15 (5:42:46 pm) - 2032-04-15 (11:59:18 am)
Vi: 2032-04-15 (11:59:18 am) - 2043-04-16 (7:39:47 am)
Ar: 2043-04-16 (7:39:47 am) - 2051-04-16 (8:56:12 am)
Sc: 2051-04-16 (8:56:12 am) - 2062-04-16 (4:42:12 am)
Ge: 2062-04-16 (4:42:12 am) - 2070-04-16 (5:50:52 am)

Thus, in Pisces Dasa that relationship began. Because Pisces is an Ubhayodaya Rasi, its result will came in the second 1/3 period of Pisces Dasa. Because its Lord Jupiter is in a Sirshodaya Rasi, the Jupiter's results came in the last 1/3 part. The aspects (Rasi Drishti) of Jupiter and Mars came in the 1st 1/3 part of Pisces Dasa. Thus, we have:
Pisces MD from 2001.04.15- 2010.04.15. Now, we have:
1. 1st 1/3 is from 2001.04.15 to 2004.04.15 indicated by aspects of Mars and Jupiter;
2. 2nd 1/3 is from 2004.04.15 to 2007.04.16 indicated by Pisces Rasi;
3. 3rd 1/3 is from 2007.04.16 to 2010. 04.15 indicated by its Lord, Jupiter.
Thus, in the 1/3 part of Pisces Dasa we must look at the Jupiter, which is the 7th lord placed in Lagna in Navamsa (the 1st partner came; Lagna= start in that field of Navamsa).

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Post by GNE » 28 Nov 2016

Hi Marian,
Thank you again for the replies,

I have a couple left over concerns ,but nothing major. I will write them at the end of this. But first, to reply to what you wrote,

Thank you for sharing these techniques you used in the rectification. Very interesting and insightful.

I agree regarding AL, that it is best to leave it alone for now. It does not help too much also with rectification since I notice Virgo is my AL in cancer ascendant also. And yes there are many 'rules' / opinions regarding what to take as AL, even for example if we followed KN Rao who does not use exceptions and would make my AL sagittarius.... so I will leave it. But thank you for clarifying what you meant by reverse count (for siblings).

I completely agree regarding the conditional dasha and wondering why some astrologers are so obstinately against more learning and testing techniques that they stick to just vimshottari from moon for everyone.
To me, parashara mentioned them for a reason...sure he said vimshottari is the most applicable / most respectable of all, but it doesn't mean to 'ignore all other dasha forever' like many astrologers do. Also you brought up a good point regarding the concept of using lagna (or other seed nakshatra) vimshottari under certain conditions. All worthy of further research .

Also true I saw when I was reading parts of BPHS again about a few months ago, that parashara goes to explain rashi drishti even before planetary aspect. Lol, yes it is "funny" how so many people seem to ignore that chapter and think only jaimini mentioned it.

The use of navamsa narayan definitly matched that first and only relationship. Thank you

And the explanation of how mars MD in sataabdika brought astrology obessesion into my life fit too, especially when I add that it's conjunct rahu + who is 9th lord.



Now the main 'question' regarding Gemini lagna are caused from what other astrologers in the past years used to try and convince me to use Cancer lagna instead:

my health...
So far, for the 31+ years it has been very good. No hospital visit, no major injury or illness. I also recover fast from any injury I do get. example, about 5-6 years ago I had a heavy metal object fall from a ledge onto my head directly...blood all over, but I did not want to go to hospital, so just put pressure on it and within about an hour it seemed okay, I had no headache or after effect. Parents and relative around were worried, and shocked at the recovery.
this type of thing has happened a few times in life (injured where people think it will need hospital, but then I heal on my own without much pain).

"Astrologers" in the past were saying that my health should be much worse, with two important planets in Dushanta 6/8 house - let alone jupiter 'jeeva karka' poorly placed, also debilitated lagna lord who lost a graha yuddha ...

this made me start to feel graha yuddha is defunked (I started to think perhaps because my planets Latitudes are far...even though longitude is within 1 degree. When I pull up the lat+long degrees on jhora I see they are actually separated..) < but then I realize there must be better reasons than this.
So if it is that lagna lord retrogradse is infact "exalted" (and thus almost right on it's highest exaltation degree?) perhaps that helps explain it too?
I see lagna gets no malefic aspect and is vargottam with jupiter in d9, so that should help too..?

Then I arugued back to an astrologer before saying that I heard saturn is actually good for health in 6th... but like many things, there are various opinions.

So, sorry for the long winded question...but I am asking you , what do you see regarding this situation (good health, even though at a glance to some it seems I should not have had....especially being in jupiter MD previously)



second,
regarding Venus in d9, my questioning of ayanamsa (and thus, switching venus into 5th house) was because for the other aspects of venus in my life besides sex (or lack of it, in my case) it seemed venus was strong.
(Like forming friendships easy/quick, especially female friend, and 'good looking' woman easily, artistic eye and skills (self taugh painting, and ended up winning some award for art in college, and was also allowed to enroll in advanced program before doing the basic one because they saw my work and said it was too good for basic class, ...) So I wondered if this was venus in 5th navamsa. (But I am no professional and of course know I can be very wrong on that assumption)

When I read about venus in scorpio (in navamsa) the qualities of attitude it was supposed to give the native did not fit me.
...but then again, if you say it acts like it is in taurus instead, that could make sense after all. Instead of me thinking to switch venus into Libra navamsa.

Also my best periods in life for work/success / happiness came in venus sub periods..
from 2006-mid 2009 was my best time, and absolute best being almost all of 2007.
I see this was around a venus time in sataabdika or vimshottari . So I assumed venus couldn't be getting too damaged/weakened in navamsa ?

Of course I am no professional so not sure what other factors are working there.


So thank you again for the rectification,

Is it too much to ask for you opinion regarding which Minute I should use between 10:53 - 56 ?


Note: I find it interesting that being Gemini lagna - it fits how my favorite color has been greens, and my bedroom has always been painting green like mercury's color solid grass green. And as a baby I had various blankets, the main ones in photographs of me as a baby were green / I'm surrounded by green often :) This was all before even knowing astrology or about planet colors.

however I do wear a lot of red shirts....but I guess that is my AK coming through :mrgreen:

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Post by GNE » 28 Nov 2016

Forgot to add, I have never travelled outside my home city.

Just adding this information, if it helps 110% rectify the ascendant

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Post by marian i. » 29 Nov 2016

Hi,

Accidents. All Gemini natives are involved in a way or another in accidents, because Mars, the karaka for the 6th house, is also the 6th lord (accidents). By being in the 11th house can give accidents to ankles, but in your case Mars is also with Sun, which is karaka for Lagna (head), in Aries (head). Because your Lagna is without planets and karaka Sun is with another 2 planets, your head (and also the body- Lagna) it is shown, also, by Aries.Do not forget the houses from karakas.

Strenght of Lagna Lord. Yes, Mercury is strong by the way of retrogradation, and the Venus is weaker by the same situation. Thus, that Graha Yuddha is not very important in your chart. And, yes, Lagna Vargottama gives health and longevity. Health is shown also by the Vara Lord, which is Moon in your case, which is in a trikona from Lagna. Saturn is good in 6th, but we must look at the lordship of Saturn, which is the 8th Lord, thus some issues are shown with the health. The weakness of Jupiter is bad for the 7th and 10th houses, but good because he is Badhakesha in your chart. For Libra Lagna if the Sun is in 12th in MKS as badhakesha, it is said that the native will live for 100 years, due to the weakness of badhakesha.

Venus. Your AL is in Virgo and Mercury is with Venus. AL shows our qualities/ the job/ how we are seen by others. Because Venus is retrograde, in Navamsa he is as if it is in Taurus, thus he is strong to give you those qualities. Mercury the Navamsa Lagna Lord is in 5th, not aspected by Venus, but Jaimini and Parashara says that we must look at the Lagna and trikona in Navamsa, but also at the Lord of the Navamsa Lagna.In Navamsa, the results of 1st and 5t houses are shown also by the 2nd house from Navamsa Lagna and its Lord. Moreover, Venus has argala on Mercury. Thus, the qualities of Venus are shown in Rasi and Navamsa.

Mother. In Lagna you have A9 and A4. These arudhas shows many things in Rasi Chart, but shows also that your mother is very pious/ religious.She is searching after God. Also, Moon (mother) is in 9th house, and this shows the same thing. Moreover Moon is having only one planet in trikona: Ketu, and as per Nadis, they are in conjunction. Thus, your mother is the best thing in your life. And because the boys inherits the qualities of the mother in a greater measure, you are also a nice soul. But, in D-12 we will see if the same things related with your mother are shown.

Your t.o.b. is 10:55:15. But I have not say all I want to say about your rectification.

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Post by GNE » 29 Nov 2016

Hi Marian,

Thank you again for more information.

I am curious now what else you will say regarding the rectification, to make sure that it is 100% set in stone.

What you mentioned regarding accidents is very fitting...the only major accidents I have had were on my head. I guess aries sign + sun / mars definitely work there. But things all heal fast and never needed hospital.

Good point regarding badhakesha lord being weak possibly actually being a blessing in disguise for health/troubles. I read this in some text many months ago too, but forgot until your reply reminded me. I have a friend born my same year and also is gemini rising (but born in november) he is near the end of jupiter dasha and has had good health and very few accidents too. Of course there are other factors in the chart also, but to me it helps prove jupiter's placement debilitated in 8 here is not as bad as some astrologers may say (like ones on other sites told me a year ago that because of jupiter there I should be very ill / injured all the time).

One thing I wonder is,
with 10th lord poorly placed, and 10th house has low ashtakavarga, but yet in my career - when I do choose to work - promotions come easy, I get recognition and support easily. Also my career path has been known and the same since I was around 14-15 years old.... also my knees (10th house. right?) are very strong, this might seem strange but a lot of my work with camera is done on knees (hiding from sight and trying to get fancy camera angles) and people are usually amazed at how I can kneel on hard stone or gravel and not get sore.
Anyway, I am saying this to ask what in the Gemini rising chart (or d9/d10..?) shows that 10th house effects do not seem too bad, even though to a basic astrologer they see jupiter placement and declare 10th house weak.

I assume the raj yogas in 10 from mer+ven help.
But I am bringing this up because 10th house was one reason past "astrologers" told me I "must" be cancer rising (because then 10th lord in 10...etc.)

Thank you for the further reply regarding venus effect in my life,
Also very true about my mother... she has always been very spiritual and religious and searching for God. The last 2 years especially she joined religious groups, and spend time researching on God during her retirement hours.
She is a blessing to me too yes, very helpful (and also giving...like if I need to buy something, often she just gives me the money for it without me asking). I thank God / universe for that support.

Interested to hear why 10:55:15.
Thank you so much for the time you have spent on this.

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Re: GNE's thread

Post by marian i. » 30 Nov 2016

Hi,

The houses/ lords which are touched by Raja Yogas, Trikona Lords or Yogakarakas are protected. In your case, you have a Raja Yoga formed by Mercury with Venus in 10th house. Your 7th house is empty, thus in the case of 10th house not only its Lord has a say, but also the occupants. But, the 7th house is empty, so only Jupiter has a say here. Mercury and Venus are the lords of 1st and 5th houses (trikona). The 9th Lord is Rahu (stronger then Saturn) and is in 11th in that Yoga for accidents, and shows an easy recovering from accidents. The rest of indications of the 11th house are also benefited (like astrology study, gains, friends etc.). Mars in 11th in own Sign did not cause harm to the ankles/ shanks, but instead cause harm to the head- Sun in Aries.

Dasamsa (work). For that wrong time, Lagna in Dasamsa is in Aries. In the 10th house is Mars in Capricorn, showing some job/ career related to the nature of Mars (police man, surgeon, dentist, boxer, army man etc.). Thus, that time is wrong. Now, for the time 10:55:15 the Lagna in Dasamsa is in Pisces. The 10th Lord is Jupiter which is placed in Lagna with Mercury and Venus. Venus shows the nature of your career. Because Venus and Mercury are the lords of 2 kama trikona houses (3rd and 7th ) shows the independent nature of work. Arudha of the 10th house (A10) is also with Venus- cameras/ filming at the work place.

Dwadasamsa (parents). For 10:55:15 the Lagna is in Taurus. The 9th house (Capricorn) shows the father. If we take this sign as Lagna of father, the 10th house is in Libra, and Venus aspects by Rasi Drishti and has argala also at the 10th house. This shows the job of your father. The 4th house shows the mother. If we take this sign as Lagna of Mother, the 10th house is in Taurus, ruled by Venus. Venus is with Jupiter showing the career as a teacher. This Lagna of mother is in Leo occupied by Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and Ketu and Sun is in 9th house (God) in exaltation, showing the devotion of your mother for God.


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Re: GNE's thread

Post by marian i. » 30 Nov 2016

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Siddhamsa (education). With this time, 10:55:15, Lagna is in Cancer. The 9th house shows the college level education. Jupiter is the lord of this house and is placed in Libra- fine art/ painting/ visual art/ film making etc.

Narayana Dasa of D-24 (Trd) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Maha Dasas:

Ge: 1985-04-15 (10:55:15 am) - 1996-04-15 (6:33:37 am)
Aq: 1996-04-15 (6:33:37 am) - 2001-04-15 (1:32:25 pm)
Li: 2001-04-15 (1:32:25 pm) - 2009-04-15 (2:37:36 pm)
Vi: 2009-04-15 (2:37:36 pm) - 2013-04-15 (3:18:21 pm)
Ta: 2013-04-15 (3:18:21 pm) - 2014-04-15 (9:27:38 pm)
Cp: 2014-04-15 (9:27:38 pm) - 2018-04-15 (10:01:49 pm)
Sg: 2018-04-15 (10:01:49 pm) - 2028-04-15 (11:34:19 am)
Le: 2028-04-15 (11:34:19 am) - 2039-04-16 (7:16:38 am)
Ar: 2039-04-16 (7:16:38 am) - 2041-04-15 (7:33:40 pm)
Pi: 2041-04-15 (7:33:40 pm) - 2046-04-16 (2:11:36 am)
Sc: 2046-04-16 (2:11:36 am) - 2051-04-16 (8:56:12 am)
Cn: 2051-04-16 (8:56:12 am) - 2054-04-16 (3:24:22 am)
Ge: 2054-04-16 (3:24:22 am) - 2055-04-16 (9:37:18 am)
Aq: 2055-04-16 (9:37:18 am) - 2062-04-16 (4:42:12 am)
Li: 2062-04-16 (4:42:12 am) - 2066-04-16 (5:22:58 am)
Vi: 2066-04-16 (5:22:58 am) - 2074-04-16 (6:41:01 am)
Ta: 2074-04-16 (6:41:01 am) - 2085-04-16 (2:21:33 am)
Cp: 2085-04-16 (2:21:33 am) - 2093-04-16 (3:28:31 am)
Sg: 2093-04-16 (3:28:31 am) - 2095-04-16 (3:45:16 pm)
Le: 2095-04-16 (3:45:16 pm) - 2096-04-15 (9:59:12 pm)
Ar: 2096-04-15 (9:59:12 pm) - 2106-04-17 (11:27:53 am)
Pi: 2106-04-17 (11:27:53 am) - 2113-04-17 (6:28:12 am)
Sc: 2113-04-17 (6:28:12 am) - 2120-04-17 (1:38:26 am)
Cn: 2120-04-17 (1:38:26 am) - 2129-04-17 (8:54:15 am)

Now, see the Narayana Dasa of D-24. In Gemini Dasa you began the primary school. Gemini is occupied by the 4th lord Venus (4th house- primary school). In Libra Dasa you began your college period. Libra is occupied by the 9th lord, Jupiter (9th house- college education).
This is a indication that the 4th house shows the primary education, not the 5th house, as some astrologers believe. In all D-24 charts this rule/ teaching of the Sages works.

Now, the fine rectification:
Kunda must be in a trikona from Lagna in Rasi Chart. Kunda is in Gemini, which is Lagna (trikona).
PP in Navamsa must be in trikona from Moon for a human birth. PP is in 9th house from Moon in Navamsa (trikona).
In D-108 we see the gender, which is shown by Lagna. In your D-108 Lagna is in Aries (male sign) occupied by Jupiter (male planet). You are a male.

Rectified time 10:55:15.


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Re: GNE's thread

Post by GNE » 30 Nov 2016

Thank you once again Marian,

I agree he pisces dasamsa looks to fit my career much better with those planets in lagna, even rahu in 10 sort of makes sense to me (film , and/or foreigners (many jobs with other culture/races only), and unorthodox overall profession type..also camera work (machine/rahu, photography...) ) I also do most jobs as director of projects (and my main career goal is this), in a way it seems like jupiter (more of a guide/mentor type, and not dictator and not "business" like a producer. instead director is almost a teacher on set).

I am happy also because then my karmesh, lagna 10th lord is in own sign+directional strength in d10, which I read was a good thing. (compared to aries lagna, with it in 12th).

You make wonderful points regarding the D12, all fits my parents as you said.

And thank you for explaining the effect of raj yoga on houses and Rahu as 9th lord. So I assume it is a "dhan yoga" of sort, in 11th with 11th lord. This could explain why even when not working I have no money issue, and still manage to have gains or buy things. I also have no debt - which is big (compared to other friends of mine who all have some).
I have actually never been in debt and only buy what I can afford to pay off.
(mentioning because debt is 6th lord isn't it? so 6th lord in 11 with 9th lord maybe protects that??)


the Narayan dasa of D24 really fit, especially since d24 changes faster in birth time changes...so the fact this fit really does help prove the time you found is correct. Thank you.
And the chart's 9th lord placed in libra matches, yes.


Interesting use of Kunda, PP and D108 Thank you for checking that, and making sure it fit. I never knew the gender is seen from D108, thank you for sharing that.


Also Gulika in 3rd house I see using Gemini rising, seems to help explain having no siblings too (based on what I read in BPHS).

I will now stick to using 10:55:15 time and see how upcoming future events play out.


Thank you for the rectification.
if there is anymore, I would love to hear, but if not then that is okay. You did more than enough already, and I understand how much time this has taken (all for no charge either...) god bless you,
thank you sincerely.

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Re: GNE's thread

Post by marian i. » 30 Nov 2016

Hi,

Don't worry, I am not interested to gain money from astrology. This is like selling the Vedas or God, although this can sound silly in Kali Yuga. Giving readings are Brahmin's business, and the Brahmins must not be the servants of anybody except God.
I just want to show the greatness of this Vedanga, it is like some type of worship of God for me.

Your Mars is very strong in Mulatrikona house, and his position is more important that the fact that he is also the 6th Lord. Thus, it is not that combination that makes you anxiety free in money matters. Your 11th house is very strong: Mars in Mulatrikona, Sun in exaltation, Rahu as 9th lord. Mars with Rahu forms Vijaya Yoga for success. Even if you want to remain without money, it will not be possible with such a 11th house. You know the story of Ravana, the Rakshasa king of Ramayana? He was the Lord of the World, thus before the birth of his son he ordered to all the planets to sit in his future son's chart in 11th house. This is the best possible placement for all the planets to be in.

Yes, Rahu is the shadow/ maya/ illusion, and these are synonyms for cinema. In 10th house in Dasamsa shows this, but he is also related to politics/ mafia etc., for the same reasons, thus it is not necessary to show the film industry. Your Lagna in D-10 is very strong with Jupiter and Mercury in Digbala house, and also with Venus.

The gender is shown by many techniques, but for me this is the easiest one. There are Adhana Chakra or Vighati Lagna etc.

In your Rasi Chart, Ketu in the 5th house shows the knowledge of the Vedas/ Astrology. This is another indication from your chart with Gemini Lagna which is proven by your interest in this science.


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Post by GNE » 30 Nov 2016

Hi, That is nice to hear that you are okay with not helping for money. I am the same opinion towards it - though of course I don't do chart reading or rectifications like you, but I mean when it comes to sharing what I know (or have read) to other friends I spend sometimes up to even 4 hours at a time on certain days, just to help. And If I did feel confident enough to do chart readings I know I would not charge. I get a bad feeling in my stomach charging for any favor / help type of work.

Good to know about my 11th house being strong enough to keep me not lacking money completely. I mean in this day and age of society, especially where I live in Ontario Canada, one cannot do much without money/income.
Thank you for sharing the short story of Ravana, the Rakshasa king of Ramayana. Very interesting about his son's 11th house.

When we say Rahu as 9th lord, does that mean I should consider it 9th lord in navamsa also? I mean, regarding yogas I see in texts that say something like: " if 9th lords navamsa sign lord is in a kendra, etc.."
so should I be taking saturn's navamsa lord, or rahu's?

And Ketu in my 5th, I do recall reading that showed knowledge of astrology/vedas, thanks for confirming.

If it is not too much to ask, what my karakamsa now in 7th house means? I previously remember it could've been in the 6th , which was bad. Showed life as a bed of thorns or struggles - which did not fit me either.

Though lately my career life has felt down (mostly due to my own choice to not want to work much + also have lack of inspiration) since around 2013 to now....and worst was 2014 year.
But in no way would I say that it's been a curse or anything too negative, just very uneventful.

I read karakamsa in 7th says marriage is a blessing...but that doesn't help when I am not in a relationship. Wondering if you know more regarding karakamsa house placement. (not sign, since that is the same in any birthtime)

Thank you again for sharing the techniques, and rectification.

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Post by marian i. » 02 Dec 2016

Hi,

Nodes lordship. You can see again that the Narayana Dasa of Navamsa was started from Rahu, the stronger 9th Lord in Rasi Chart (he is stronger in Navamsa also, and this is the rule for starting the Narayana Dasa in Navamsa). The lordship of the Nodes of Scorpio/ Aquarius works in the case of Narayana Dasa, and also in the case of Arudhas. In the case of Yogas, the things are unclear, because when the classics talks about Yogas, as in the case of Nabhasa Yogas, it is very clear that they exclude the Nodes in giving the Yogas. But in the case all other Yogas, also, it appears to me that they are not counting the Nodes.
Ex: Sarpa Yoga is formed when malefics only are in atleast in 3 kendras from Lagna without benefics in kendras. Some think that we must take also Rahu and Ketu in the case of this Yoga. But it is really so? Parashara gives very good result for Rahu and Ketu in kendras (the native will do Yagnas- Sacrifices for Gods) and also for Rahu and Ketu in trikona houses are given good results. Thus, how can the Nodes form Sarpa Yoga? My view is that Sarpa Yoga is a very rare Yoga which is formed only by Sun, Mars and Saturn. But than, we also can exclude the Nodes from the Yogas as PapaKartari Yoga? Thus Vedic Astrology is full of unclear rules.

AK in 7th in Navamsa. Yes, it is considered good for marriage, but for Mars the 7th house is his MKS house. Some say that we must see MKS placement from the 7th house in Navamsa. But, I say, why not from the 9th house? etc. Thus, again, the things are unclear. Anyway, not a single Yoga can make or ruin a chart, more so if this is just a single planet placement.

"If AK is in 7th house, the native is blessed with a clean heart and many joys. If Venus is strong, marriage shall be a great blessing"- Sanjay Rath.

Now, how is your Venus? It is in 6th house in Navamsa, in his MKS house. Thus, you are living like a celibate.


P.S. A very good exercise for all of us is to see the annual chart, and to give some prediction. Thus, you can see for yourself your own annual charts. TP chart fo the next year for you is this: April 22, 2017, 14:07:07, Toronto, Canada.
(Hints: HL (hora lord), Vara Lord (week day lord) and Lagna are very important in annual TP chart. These are for you Jupiter and Saturn as HL and VL ).
You can make your TP and Tajaka Chart with Jagannatha Hora software.

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Post by GNE » 03 Dec 2016

Hi Marian,
Thanks again for the response.

Oh yes you are correct I see Narayana dasha navamsa started by rahu in jhora too. Also I notice in Rasi, my 9th pada is in ascendant....which means it took 9th lord as rahu.

Excellent point regarding rahu/ketu in sarpa yoga formations. I always wondered that myself...as seemed people who have rahu/ketu in a kendra are much likely to have Sarpa yoga, but yet many classics speak fairly positively of rahu/ketu in kendra (well, mostly rahu in 10 or 7 sometimes, from what I've seen. ) Of course other factors(their dispositor/conjunctions) matter a lot.
True, Vedic astrology is full of unclear rules that are up to us to test on many charts and see what works or what doesn't.


The mars MKS / venus placement makes sense as far as my love life(lack) has been. Mostly I feel the AK in 7th just had to fit more for everything else besides the marriage portion of it. Because AK in 6 makes it seem like life would have been much more stressed / difficult or full of negative events than it has been, especially since I am in it's sataabdika dasa.
It balances out at least, though mars in 7 there is not great for marriage life, it is at least AK in kendra with mutual aspect to AmK, and karakamsa in kendra to lagna/rasi lagna/AL, etc. which I have read was sort of jaimini raj yogas.
So I mean I can be thankful for the good and not get upset over having weaker marriage/sex life placements in the chart.

Thanks for sharing the technique for Annual charts. What will be most interesting to me is to check my previous year annual charts and see how they matched. I will do this on some free time when I am curious.
I now see where to make them in jhora.


I am now curious to see when the next major event in my life happens...to see how it checks out using dasha/transit with the 10:55:15 birth time. So far the last 5-6 months have been very plain and uneventful for me.

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