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Karmic debt or affair?

Post by Kavyamaya » 10 Apr 2019

My oldest sister who has been married for 17 yrs, recently admitted to me in a fit of hysteria that she has been having an affair with her husbands friend...to the outside world her marriage was perfect...but we knew she was unhappy since her husband has always been suspicious and extremely obsessed with her,never allowing her own friends,always questioning everything....this friend too she has known for 15yrs, but never been close to him..... Not getting into details, but it sounds like everything played out like a karmic event..
Her details are 17th march 79
Time 4.55 pm
Place-kottayam
..now my sister is thinking of divorcing her husband, since she feel its the right thing to do..but her husband is not ready to give her divorce.... What is happening? Can anyone pls help. The other man is also married (2nd marriage)...is he taking advantage of her? But of course, he didnt know that she was unhappy...so iam wondering where this is all leading to?pls help someone...if required i can get the husbands and the other mans details as well...



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Re: Karmic debt or affair?

Post by jigkoshti » 10 Apr 2019

Leo lagna (sinha)
1st house has Rahu and Shani
7th house has Ketu and Mars.. 7th house represents marriage/partenership.. presence of ketu and mars together in 7th house creates strong chance of problems in married life and a strong chance of separation..
Lord of 7th house is saturn and it is retrograde in 1st house, which again is not good for marriage..

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Re: Karmic debt or affair?

Post by AstroGuru108 » 10 Apr 2019

Hi,

Pls give details of her Husband and her husband friend..

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Post by joyd » 11 Apr 2019

@KM -everything played out like a karmic event../is he taking advantage of her? But of course, he didn't know that she was unhappy...

yes its karmic.Let me give the reasons for it first..

1-Husbands friends represented by her 11th house from the 7th house aqaurius.7th house/lord both are under affliction.The 5th from the 7th is gemini ruled by mercury.Mercury is in pisces of 8th from lagna and in 2nd from the 7th.Pisces dispositor jupiter placed in her 12th house of bed.Both jupiter-mercury are connected via aspect.Mercury conjoined with lagna lord sun[self]in the 8th house of secret affairs.jupiter being a benefic in 12th promoted his mool trikona [5th-romance] and 8th house results by surpassing the spirituality traits of the 12th house[vipreet yoga].Here mercury is hubbys friend placed in 8th from the 7th lord , denotes that he is looking for an opportunity.so you can say clap sound means, both hands must come closer.what you quoted like advantage taken by both genders not by friend of her husband alone.Mars aspecting the 2nd house.so partner uses verbal torture frequently to hurt the native.Husbands friend knows everything about her family life why bcz he is a mercurian brain.

2-Divorce issues are ruled out why bcz Her UL lord venus escaped from ketu aspect[jaiminis].

3-Mars lost his 4-9th house significations[dharma and seela] being placed in Aquarius and Its loaded with double mars.

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Post by Dev » 11 Apr 2019

.now my sister is thinking of divorcing her husband,
why so late realisation, after 17 years?
her husband is not ready to give her divorce
He does not know about her illicit relationship?
The other man is also married (2nd marriage)...is he taking advantage of her? But of course, he didnt know that she was unhappy.
If he did not know she was unhappy, what was he thinking? that she could easily be invited?He thought she was ready for anything?
He is cheating his wife, her husband and her as well.

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Post by Kavyamaya » 12 Apr 2019

ur absolutely right...there is a lot of emotional abuse right from the start...now slowly physical abuse also...

Any idea when the affair will end? If divorce is not an option, then atleast she should be able to break it off.... One more doubt...why is this karmic? If it has no future, why such things happen?

Is there any remedy to make their marriage happier?
Husband: 9th august 1976
7.20 pm
Pune

Friend:1st Jan 1978
8.45pm
Ranchi

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Re: Karmic debt or affair?

Post by Kavyamaya » 17 Apr 2019

Anyone pls? Is there a way to get out with everyone's life intact?

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Post by astrolover2017 » 18 Apr 2019

Her details are 17th march 79
Time 4.55 pm
Place-kottayam

Simma lagna, Tula rasi. Sani is vargottama, Jup is exalted and retrograde which is like debilitated, Mer is debiliated and retrograde which is like exalted.

7th house and lagna are both severely afflicted, lagna lord and rasi lord Sun is hidden in 8th house which is not good. She will only get everything she wants after 40 due to weak lagna lord, in navasama sun is in friend house so she will be ok after her 40s.

Dasha Start date
Sa-Ra-Ve 04-05-2019
Sa-Ra-Su 09-26-2019
Sa-Ra-Mo 11-17-2019
Sa-Ra-Ma 02-11-2020
Sa-Ju-Ju 04-12-2020
Sa-Ju-Sa 08-13-2020
Sa-Ju-Me 01-07-2021

Sani dasa for simma lagna is very painful as they are bitter enemies. her next dasa is mercury and its with lagna lord so it might be better. Also its the 11th lord which can give second marriage and fulfil her desires and wishes. so chances for it are there for a good second marriage. First marriage is very weak and wont stand due to severe affliction, all the maliefics are aspecting 7th house, horrible marriage for 17 years.

She will get divorce in Jup bhukti 2020/2021, Jup is 8th lord of changes and transformation and sudden events. Next dasa will be very good and she will be with loving husband.
A lot of problems will go away if we have good thoughts, deeds, actions and help humanity. We are here on earth to enjoy and suffer for our past life karma. Each one has their own life path. Live and Let Live.

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Post by astrolover2017 » 18 Apr 2019

Btw, everything we undergo is karmic debt, this birth itself is due to karmic backlog.
We are born with certain blessings and struggles that we want to experience. This is for the soul's growth.
A lot of problems will go away if we have good thoughts, deeds, actions and help humanity. We are here on earth to enjoy and suffer for our past life karma. Each one has their own life path. Live and Let Live.

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Re: Karmic debt or affair?

Post by Kavyamaya » 18 Apr 2019

Thank you so much for your reply....does my siste have a happy marriage with the person she is in love with now?

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Post by sammyho148 » 18 Apr 2019

Chart is interesting because all the houses signifying dharmic relationship are afflicted on way or the other -

All malefics influence the 7th house so no need to explain here. Mars is in close proximity to Ketu
Moon goes into nakshatra of Rahu who is afflicting 7th lord saturn, and saturn aspects moon very closely from the degrees. The first kama house is affected this way
Mars is lord of 9th and 4th who is pulled into the mess in 7th house thereby affecting significations of 4th house (home, domestic happiness) and 9th (bhagya, dharma)
Mercury lord of 11th and 2nd gets debilitated in the 8th house of secrets but gets neechabhanga and aspect from exalted Jupiter who is 8th lord. Ju is exalted in 12th house
Mars aspects 2nd house of family from 7th and thus impacts here too. I guess the formal family is still intact only due to aspect of Mercury and Sun
Lagna lord Sun goes into 8th house of secrets where Mercury Lord of desires (11th is the third kama house) affects this, Sun also goes completely under control of Jupiter since he is in his nakshatra
Mercury gets afflicted by Rahu in Scorpio in D9 - Scorpio is a deeply sexual sign, this further gets influence by Mars who is lord of scorpio

In short the affairs of the 8th and 12th houses completely overpower the indicators of all the dharmic relationship houses (7th, 2nd, 9th)

I would not be surprised if the abuse is much more than what has been revealed, please explore this in a diplomatic way and send the person for counselling. While it is easy to consider every chart as a case study, we should not forget the human element in this. This lady has most likely gone through tremendous stress due to her marriage and needs to figure out a mature way of dealing with this. Please do this with utmost seriousness and care

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Re: Karmic debt or affair?

Post by Kavyamaya » 18 Apr 2019

Thank you everyone for your valuable advice and for checking the details....

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