An interesting case posted in an astrological group
A lady has twin sons born one minute apart the elder one is autistic and having seizures..the other one is intelligent and normal.again here two mutually debilitated planets aspecting each other also Mars is exalted in navamsa..can anyone answer the reason for one condition?
23/11/2009
1:59 pm /2:00 pm
Johannesburg,south Africa
Case of twins
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Re: Case of twins
Are you sure the time difference is one minute. It could be more.
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Re: Case of twins
Yes time difference is one minute only
I reconfirmed it from the mother.
The elder one has autism and seizures..
Younger is very brilliant according to mother
I reconfirmed it from the mother.
The elder one has autism and seizures..
Younger is very brilliant according to mother
Re: Case of twins
Hi,
Out of curiosity, I've cast and reviewed the chart multiple times. In my initial analysis, I was not convinced the planetary positions/condition could contribute to the stated problem - at least not to the extent I understood the problem to be.
I was hoping one of the more learned and elevated souls looked up this thread and shared their observations. Personally, I've seen much more afflicted charts without as much misery/suffering. In any case, below are my myopic observations; wish learned folk chime-in with their thoughts:
1. The little one is born with Mandi and Gulika on either side of Udaya Lagna, something that will qualify as a minor form of Papa-kartari Yoga and contributing to affliction/weakening of Lagna. Mandi and Gulika are low profile miscreants. They are capable of acting like strong catalysts towards extreme maleficity……capable of causing havoc in certain conditions.
2. Debilitation of Lagna-Lord is not helping the cause.
3. Strong malefics in kendras (3-4) form strong Ashuba Yoga, in extreme cases making the individual dependent on others.
That said, it would help though if OP were to describe in detail, what has been observed/diagnosed and called out as a case of "Autism". In any case, I would suggest the parents/well-wishers to consider remedial measures for "Lagna Shuddhi". I hope learned and knowledgeable folk either endorse and/or suggest suitable Dharmic/Vedic remedies.
Sincerely...
Out of curiosity, I've cast and reviewed the chart multiple times. In my initial analysis, I was not convinced the planetary positions/condition could contribute to the stated problem - at least not to the extent I understood the problem to be.
I was hoping one of the more learned and elevated souls looked up this thread and shared their observations. Personally, I've seen much more afflicted charts without as much misery/suffering. In any case, below are my myopic observations; wish learned folk chime-in with their thoughts:
1. The little one is born with Mandi and Gulika on either side of Udaya Lagna, something that will qualify as a minor form of Papa-kartari Yoga and contributing to affliction/weakening of Lagna. Mandi and Gulika are low profile miscreants. They are capable of acting like strong catalysts towards extreme maleficity……capable of causing havoc in certain conditions.
2. Debilitation of Lagna-Lord is not helping the cause.
3. Strong malefics in kendras (3-4) form strong Ashuba Yoga, in extreme cases making the individual dependent on others.
That said, it would help though if OP were to describe in detail, what has been observed/diagnosed and called out as a case of "Autism". In any case, I would suggest the parents/well-wishers to consider remedial measures for "Lagna Shuddhi". I hope learned and knowledgeable folk either endorse and/or suggest suitable Dharmic/Vedic remedies.
Sincerely...
Re: Case of twins
Oh! By the way, in my observation/analysis I've assumed the given ToB is accurate. If true, I'm inclined to think the twins were born at least half an hour apart. If not, the birth time warrants rectification, based on the time differential for the twin birth.
Sincerely...
Sincerely...
Re: Case of twins
In my personal opinion, seeking and performing Dharmic/Vedic remedies from knowledgeable and elevated souls could help the child (and family) immensely.
Sincerely...
Sincerely...
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Re: Case of twins
Even an addition of 15 seconds to the younger child's birth time changes the bhava chart and the Navamsa charts. Then the indications of roga are clear in the elder's chart. Whether the small change is possible has to be confirmed from the mother.
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Re: Case of twins
Hi,
In the case of twins, a rudimentary method is to identify the ascendant and then consider the 3rd or 11th house as the ascendant of the other twin.
In the above case, ascendant is Pisces. Assume this to be that of the younger twin. The older twin's ascendant is Capricorn. Considering Mercury signifies nerves and learning abilities also. It is the 6th lord, with 8th lord and receives aspect of natural malefic Saturn. Mars aspects 2nd house of speech/learning and Saturn aspects 3rd house of communication. Debilitated Jupiter is in ascendant with Moon and receives aspect of Mars. Note that the starting dasha is that of afflicted Moon, followed by Mars. These may be the indicators of the problems.
The younger twin with Pisces ascendant has better placed Mercury. Though starting dasha is that of afflicted Moon, it is followed by most favorable Mars dasha. Hence better growth of 2nd twin.
Regards,
KMD
In the case of twins, a rudimentary method is to identify the ascendant and then consider the 3rd or 11th house as the ascendant of the other twin.
In the above case, ascendant is Pisces. Assume this to be that of the younger twin. The older twin's ascendant is Capricorn. Considering Mercury signifies nerves and learning abilities also. It is the 6th lord, with 8th lord and receives aspect of natural malefic Saturn. Mars aspects 2nd house of speech/learning and Saturn aspects 3rd house of communication. Debilitated Jupiter is in ascendant with Moon and receives aspect of Mars. Note that the starting dasha is that of afflicted Moon, followed by Mars. These may be the indicators of the problems.
The younger twin with Pisces ascendant has better placed Mercury. Though starting dasha is that of afflicted Moon, it is followed by most favorable Mars dasha. Hence better growth of 2nd twin.
Regards,
KMD
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Re: Case of twins
The difference is because of the difference in time of conception of the twins which can vary from a few minutes to upto 21 days as taught by my Guru.
Try can study this aspect [CONCEPTION}from medical point of view. This may help you in your query
Try can study this aspect [CONCEPTION}from medical point of view. This may help you in your query
Re: Case of twins
The birth chart is good for only one of the two the other child needs time rectification.