JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

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JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 08 Feb 2019

Dear JoyD,
I am getting inconsistent results with regard to placement of Atmakaraka Mangal in my D-9. It's either in Aquarius or Pisces. As we know, Karakamsha being the most significant in Jaimini Jyotish, I need to get clarity on this otherwise I will stay confused.

DOB 31st May 1992 11:12 A.M. Jaipur, Rajasthan

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by joyd » 08 Feb 2019

yes no doubt karakamsa is very key role but in which chart in D9 OR in D1 ? see first the karakamsa sign[AK placed sign] in D9 and then see this sign from D1 and analyse the results.Try yourself.

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 08 Feb 2019

As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, it's in Aquarius & as per Raman it's in Pisces. When I am applying the dictums of Jaimini some are falling in line with Aquarius & some with Pisces. I am getting mixed results. There is lack of clarity on which is my karakamsha lagna.

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Post by joyd » 09 Feb 2019

Try always with lahari.. is your BT is right one.If i am already rectified your BT ,use that with lahari.

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 09 Feb 2019

JoyD you have not rectified my birth time before. Please help me with it.

Instances from life for verification. Parents got married on 10th december 1990. I am their first child. Official name is Abhishek (Very high Sun Shad Bal). My younger sister was born on 6th November 1993. Why she was born? I mean what combination lead to her birth? She also has 4 planet combination in 11th, mine is in 10th.

Mother's Chart
28 December 1967, 4:30 A.M. Deeg, Rajasthan

Father Chart
15 July 1960 1:00 A.M. Varanasi, U.P. (Rectified by me)

Sister Chart
6 November 1993 11:30 A.M. Jaipur, Rajasthan

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Post by joyd » 09 Feb 2019

What is your favourite element among the pancha bhootas?

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 09 Feb 2019

'Ether' because it comprises them all. Actually, I don't have a favorite & all the elements are liked by me. But if I have to chose one then I will chose Ether because it is the highest & most advanced element amongst the five. Ether>Air>Fire>Water>Earth

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Post by joyd » 10 Feb 2019

@I am getting inconsistent results with regard to placement of Atmakaraka Mangal..

can you share what you are getting from AK ? I mean what results you are crosss checked with your AK / and what you are getting from such AK ?

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 10 Feb 2019

JoyD, Kindly share For Kumbh Navamsha holding AK, the person constructs Tanks? What does that even mean? My interpretation would be that a person with Aquarius Karakamsha should beware of stored water like ponds, tanks, lakes etc. because it signifies death from such places due to falling in them that's why Rishi Jaimini ji said the person should construct tanks in order to overcome these negatives, kindly correct me if I am wrong. If Pisces Karakamsha then such AK will grant the person final emancipation so it's on the will on Mars to give me final emancipation? Actual meaning should be that such person will have spiritual inclination & seeks liberation. Basically, a spiritual & pious person seeking emancipation.
Let's consider Aquarius as my Karakamsha Lagna...
Benefics in Kendra from Karakamsha Lagna makes person a king. What does that even mean? There are 5 planets in Kendra from Aquarius in D-1 amongst which Jupiter, Venus, Mercury & Moon are benefics & Sun Malefic. I don't think I have king like stature power or such high official position in society. Shukra & Chandra in 4th from Karakamsha Lagna endows person with royal insignia. I have no such attributes, connection or association. I haven't really experienced anything of this sort till now.

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Post by joyd » 10 Feb 2019

which of these Following texts you are REFERRING to study jaimini?
1-PSS / 2-SCM / 3-BSR..

b]Pl confirm your field of activity like are you a technokrat or in performing arts field ?

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 10 Feb 2019

English Translation of Jaimini Sutras by Surya narain Rao
Predicting through Jaimini Chara Dasha+ Karakamsha & Mandook Dasha by K.N. Rao
Jaimini Astrology by B.V. Raman
Sanjay Raths work on Jaimini Upadesh Sutras
Jaimini Text available on Parashar Light 7.0


I always had zilch interest in our education system & never made harmony with it. I never used to study. Mostly a day before exams or a week & still ended up amongst the toppers. I didn't took science (wasted a year 2008-09) as per my parents wish as it required practice & time where as commerce came naturally to me. I didn't have to study much, still score & I could continue with my many extra curricular activities. In 12th, (2010-11), I topped in all exams right from start. I topped the school from commerce stream then I went to Delhi University in Rahu-Rahu (became introspective, confused, bad thoughts). Also it was Sagittarius Chara Dasha having Rahu. From then on I had absolutely 0 interest in studies but still I ended up in Top 10% of college. Then I pursued Company Secretary Course by ICSI & cleared them without studying at all but not in one attempt (Rahu effect). I used to just wake up & give papers, quite literally. Professionally, I am an Associate Company Secretary. VD of Rahu-Jupiter & Rahu-Saturn (current) have really helped me spiritually. Now, Dhanu Chara Dasha is over & I am in Makar Char Dasha containing AmK Saturn.

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 11 Feb 2019

I posted the response in the morning but it's not published till now. I am doing it again...

English Translation of Jaimini Sutras by Surya narain Rao
Predicting through Jaimini Chara Dasha+ Karakamsha & Mandook Dasha by K.N. Rao
Jaimini Astrology by B.V. Raman
Sanjay Raths work on Jaimini Upadesh Sutras
Jaimini Text available on Parashar Light 7.0


I always had zilch interest in our education system & never made harmony with it. I never used to study. Mostly a day before exams or a week & still ended up amongst the toppers. I didn't took science (wasted a year 2008-09) as per my parents wish as it required practice & time where as commerce came naturally to me. I didn't have to study much, still score & I could continue with my many extra curricular activities. In 12th, (2010-11), I topped in all exams right from start. I topped the school from commerce stream then I went to Delhi University in Rahu-Rahu (became introspective, confused, bad thoughts). Also it was Sagittarius Chara Dasha having Rahu. From then on I had absolutely 0 interest in studies but still I ended up in Top 10% of college. Then I pursued Company Secretary Course by ICSI & cleared them without studying at all but not in one attempt (Rahu effect). I used to just wake up & give papers, quite literally. Professionally, I am an Associate Company Secretary. VD of Rahu-Jupiter & Rahu-Saturn (current) have really helped me spiritually. Now, Dhanu Chara Dasha is over & I am in Makar Char Dasha containing AmK Saturn.

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 12 Feb 2019

I posted time & again since yesterday but the comment is not getting published.

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Post by joyd » 13 Feb 2019

@shi-1-PSS / 2-SCM / 3-BSR..are all mentioned that-charities and temple construction come under Kumbha-AK navamsa.No one mentioned about tanks/lakes or water bodies construction.kumbha AK Navamsa is the 2nd best in giving positive results.Hope till date you are not constructed a temple but you may given charities for such works.so the results of karakamsha not practically working up to 100% accuracy.NOw just think why it is not happening?place your Natal KL sign as main point to study the effects of kumbha-KL.
If you stuck somewhere means,pl inform..

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 15 Feb 2019

Yes, temples are mentioned but tanks are also mentioned. It is even said that Aquarius is the most spiritual sign & If Aquarius AK Navamsa is 2nd best (after Pisces AK Navamsha) then why it's is mentioned by astrologers that it is preferable not to have any planet in Scorpio & Aquarius Navamsha. I have both AK Mars & DK Moon in Kumbh having grah drishti of both Saturn & rahu & rashi drishti of venus. As per Sanjay Rath, having planets in Aquarius represents debt but he doesn't explain it further. I have always been interested in esoteric & occult interpretation but it is intentionally hidden from the masses & it will never be mainstreamed. Can you please share why it is preferred not to have planet in scorpio & Aquarius.
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Post by joyd » 16 Feb 2019

Not pisces but it is libra.only 2 positive signs In KL chapter.First let you finish your asked query.Keep your navamsa KL sign AQUARIUS in your rasi chart and then post your findings..

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Post by Shivoham » 18 Feb 2019

JOYD,
I was contemplating over KL & the Lagna disharmony. The desire of the soul was to have Aquarius Lagna & planetary placements accordingly where as what I actually got was exact opposite Leo Ascendant. Does this indicate an discontent & confused soul in this physical body. How should it be put into words?

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Post by joyd » 19 Feb 2019

@voham-

your kumbha rasi[kl]is not under any jaimini aspects.your AK under the the aspects of nodes.so you have karmic debts still.How to cross verify whether these/such debts existing in the chart or not ?

your AMK is aspecting several planets like MK-PK-DK-BK in Taurus @also your GK.saturn placed in A2-A8 Padas.so it denotes strong family debts to the above people in your last birth.Rahu is in A7-A3,denoting pending debts towards wife and to your brother-in-laws too.your KL 9th house Libra under the aspect of taurus which is with A6[Runa & Debts].From your KL sign ,AK under the grip of Rahu[materialism]and freed by ketu in the 5TH.Ketu in a dual, airy sign and also the 11th of gains from lagna.so ketu gives you on and off triggering type spiritualism/thoughts.coming to your navamsa,ketu occupied the A11[Again Gains].GK-Jupiter aspecting the AK-DK too.so your spiritualism under the hold of past karmic debts.your AK sign in rasi with A10-A-9 padas.so your mars[AK] more concentrating on those areas.In D9 such KL sign is with A7-A6 padas plus AK-DK.Such a combo in 9th house From D9 lagna & Also A9 of navamsa aspected your D1’s A9 suggesting that unless you have a proper gurus guidance , cant ripe in spirituality matters.

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Re: JoyD, Inconsistent results with regards to placement of AK in Navamsha

Post by Shivoham » 19 Feb 2019

My gratitude to you JoyD. All predictions related to D-1 are right but all related to D-9 are wrong. I believe all these aforementioned debts are my current debts & there's no inclination from my end to cancel them. I live in my own world, away from my parents, doing my own thing in all matters. Detached from worldly matters, no indulgence of any sort except gadgets. There's no inclination for marriage so I can forget paying any wife or brother in law related debts too. Only planet interested in getting me married is Jupiter as it's 7th drishti from lagna in D-1, residing in 7th from KL sign & conjunct A7 in D-9 (exalted).
I wanted to point out some miscalculation in calculating padas in navamsha...

"spiritualism/thoughts.coming to your navamsa,ketu occupied the A11[Again Gains]"
Ketu is conjunct AL in Navamsha & not A11

"In D9 such KL sign is with A7-A6 padas plus AK-DK"
KL sign in D-9 is with A8 & A9 padas & not A6-A7


"Such a combo in 9th house From D9 lagna"
It's in 11th house from D-9 lagna

I think D-9 Pada calculations are wrong because the location selected in the software is not correct. You might have selected Jaipur, Assam. I am from Jaipur, Rajasthan. LAT. 26N55 LONG. 75E49

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Post by joyd » 19 Feb 2019

1-Ketu is conjunct AL in Navamsha & not A11...right but you are forgetting the ketu placed house is the 11th from your K&L sign aqaurius..

2-KL sign in D-9 is with A8 & A9 padas & not A6-A7..correct point.

3-"Such a combo in 9th house From D9 lagna"
It's in 11th house from D-9 lagna..also correct.

so based on your given coordinates i will post my analysis once again..

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Post by joyd » 20 Feb 2019

B4 proceeding your AK -KL analysis you have to answer the following 3 things for BTR sake..

Give any key event that happened at your 14th/26/it must be related to yourself specifically..

Like the same way event happened at your 14-26th year related to your 11th house..

Confirm whether you are a c-section baby or not..

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Post by Shivoham » 20 Feb 2019

Yes, JoyD I am a c section baby

In 14th year, relationship with my father deteriorated.
I had attitude problem, domineering & rebellious nature. I had anger issues too (snapping), back talking to teachers & parents. Quite popular in school, class prefect & academically doing well.

In 26th year, I became Company Secretary without studying or even training. Gained degree without any sincere effort. Also, Family friend helped me in showing work exp for the gap year I had in between due to my spiritual endeavors. Vipassana Meditation, Bob Monroe OBEs & gaining access to hundreds of books on Kundalini Yoga, reading about Freemasonry & a lot more other esoteric & occult subjects.

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Post by joyd » 20 Feb 2019

any kind of medical emergencies or accidents during those ages and also during the time of birth or with in one year of your birth?

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Post by Shivoham » 21 Feb 2019

After I was born, I suffered from Jaundice.
No medical emergencies in 14th or 26th year.

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Post by joyd » 21 Feb 2019

Any complications to your mom with in one year from your birth?

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